sunday, december 17, 2017. thanks for spending part of your sunday night with me. have a great and productive week. interview with the monster, the scott peterson case starts in seven seconds. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> my daughter's been missing since this morning. she is eight months pregnant. >> the fbi is joining the search for missing california woman who is eight months pregnant. her husband reported her missing after he returned from a fishing trip, a trip he took by himself. >> please bring our daughter home. >> you know in your gut that something bad has happened. >> are you in any way connected to lacey's disappearance? >> i had nothing to do with her disappearance. >> two bodies found in richmond. >> our daughter and her unborn

child did not deserve to die. >> scott peterson has been arrested. >> there was nobody in that courtroom that had a dry eye. >> for scott peterson, history is what matters. people were so fascinated and drawn into this case because scott and lacey peterson seemed like the perfect couple , storybook romance, a charming young man who was very attentive and very focused on this very sweet, beautiful young girl. >> many people described scott and lacey as the all-american, perfect couple. he was a fertilizer salesman at the time this happened. he radiated charm. he was this handsome man who

was educated, he had a good career ahead of him and seemed like he had it all together. lacey was a schoolteacher and by all accounts, everyone who knew lacey described her as this bubbly, caring, social, fun-loving person. she was expecting. you could almost feel the community, they were rooting for them. >> there i was, december 24th , christmas eve, a young couple celebrating with their families, new baby boy on the way when all of the sudden lacey peterson vanished. >> lacey peterson is eight months pregnant and she is missing. modesto police say she was last seen walking her dog in a neighborhood park on christmas eve. >> police admit they are no closer to finding lacey peterson than they were on christmas eve than the day she'd vanished.

>> the day before christmas eve, the last time anyone heard or seen lacey, everything seemed normal at 8:30 p.m. she the conversation with her mother and they talk about what happens the next day. the next day there is this huge gap of time that nobody really knows for sure what happened except for scott peterson. he said she is preparing for new year's eve and watching martha stewart. >> he decides to leave his pregnant wife and go fishing. he takes his new vote that he just purchased and he comes here. her husband reported her missing from a fishing trip, a trip he took by himself. >> her husband said he went fishing at a marina the day she disappeared. >> this is fueled by scott peterson's alibi and remains flimsy at best. >> he comes home later in the day.

he figures he somewhere else, running errands, doing something for christmas even take the time to put his close in the wash, take a shower, have a snack and then realizes maybe i should call somebody. >> here's what's unusual. he calls lacey's mother and say says, doesn't say have you spoken to lacey or do you know where she is, he said lacey is missing. >> the word missing struck a chord with everyone. when you hear that moment described, the ground going out and your heart sinking from the floor, what do you mean missing? that's a very important word. >> my daughter has been missing since this morning. she is eight months pregnant. >> the clock is ticking. lacey peterson is eight months pregnant. she needs medical care. her family is desperate to find her.

>> when they describe her, she's a missing woman, eight and half months pregnant. >> having worked as a former prosecutor in san francisco, this is the type of case and my area of expertise. i was initially fascinated by it. >> i was a radio reporter working in l.a. my first reaction, when i saw the story, was let's go, it's christmas. this woman is missing. we need to help. >> i'm a forensic psychiatrist. the story of scott peterson caught my attention because people were saying how could it be that someone who seemed like the boy next door, your neighbor, would do such a thing. the fact that lacey peterson sprung up so quickly was that she was young, she was attractive, she was pregnant.

that made it of interest, but it became of more interest when, very early on, within a day or two, the police went to his home to look for any evidence. >> the fbi came down last night and assisted in the proces you want to look at an investigation, when you bring a potential suspect in, how does he behave? was there motion. is there concern? was there concern? he doesn't seem concerned at all, not alarmed which tells me something is very off in

his demeanor. >> when you begin to cover a story like this, you want to hear from the spouse and the husband, the closest person to lacey is scott. we were getting that connection with scott twice felt something was not right. >> when you thought what it was like for you, most of us would say i would be out pounding on the door, i would be calling her name. >> he wasn't the one leading the search for his missing wife. you see it from the other family members, that desperate grief, that desperate fear, is she cold, is she okay, does somebody have her. >> we been through so much these last few days that i'd like to make a plea for the person or person who has my daughter. please bring our daughter home. >> i miss your beautiful smile and your fun-loving

personality. every time we were together i could feel the unconditional love between the both of us. >> and then you cut to what he looked like, what he sounded like. >> today, how are you remembering your wife and son. >> that's very personal. at times it difficult to go on. thanks very much. >> none of it felt right, none of it felt like this was a man his being truthful. >> he has multiple signs and symptoms of someone who has sociopathy or anti- social personality disorder. i'm not diagnosing him with that because i didn't interview him, but the key to that is a lack of empathy. >> people can handle stress and/or grief or concern in many different ways. it's the rest of the story that adds up. scott peterson has done

something terribly wrong. >> he hired a lawyer and is keeping a low profile and have landed him under the cloud of profile. >> he will be considered and is considered a suspect. >> at the time, the public was already becoming suspicious of scott peterson as more information came out about him. i'm learning more for law enforcement and they were zeroing in on him. >> we knew his actions were suspicious and something was going on. clearly his story was not adding up. one of the things you do as a reporter as you go up and down and talk to everybody you possibly can. i went over to the neighbor who lives across the street. the neighbor remembered scott coming over and looking for lacey. he said where were you and he said he was playing golf. the fact that that story differed from what we heard was infallible alibi was very upsetting. >> scott was being followed by the press everywhere. his behavior, his actions were documented.

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it was becoming apparent that people were suspecting him in the disappearance and murder of his wife. he decides to talk. he was already in his mind formulating i've got to get a message out there. i'm looking like the bad guy, like the one that's dodging the press for some reason. >> i think he felt a little bit freer to get out front at some point and sort of pose in a different way, as if it would be well received. if he felt any energy coming in his direction that would

make him more of a suspect, he might have done what he thought would be the antidote to that. >> everyone wanted to interview him and stand in front of him and ask the question, where is she, what you know. >> my phone rang and sure enough it said scott peterson. he said hey gloria, i want to let you know i want to give you an interview. i said great. when you want to do it. we had everything set up, we had ground rules on what i could and couldn't do. he wanted to make sure he got the right message out there that he gardner and sympathy for what he's going through. he wanted to make sure we knew that he was in charge. >> he decides to do the interview and for the first time the public gets inside the home of scott and lacey peterson. it was chilling. >> we didn't know what had happened to lacey and i was thinking to myself, she was

killed. was is what happened? i may have been in a crime scene. all those things were running through my mind as i was getting ready to sit down for this big interview. at any moment he could say something absolutely astonishing or revealing. >> i think people want to know, first of all, why would you leave lacey, who is eight months pregnant to go fishing on christmas eve? >> it wasn't uncommon for us, we have separate pursuits. she did not play golf as i do which is my other options that they, and being seven and half months pregnant she's not going to go in the vote but is simply a leisure activity to pursue that day that's what our plans were. >> the very first thing he said, she asked the question and he said okay, he setting

it up in his mind. he's going over his part of the story. it's the tone of his voice, it's what seems like forced breaks in his voice. it just doesn't sound sincere. >> i knew from the get-go this was going to be over first thing for him. there was gonna be no spontaneity or honesty. it was all about what i can say to sound good and make the public like me. >> i think scott peterson knows he is putting things over on people or attempting too. the trouble is because he can't connect, he can feel your emotions or his own, he is in a very tough spot as to lying effectively but scott peterson thanks he is very resourceful. no doubt he thanks people believe him when they don't at all. >> it wouldn't surprise you if they found blood in your

vehicle? explain why. >> tickled my hands. you can see cuts here on my knuckles, numerous cars, i work on farms and i work on machinery. i know i cut my knuckle that day. >> on what day? >> on christmas eve. >> doing what. >> reaching into the toolbox of my truck in the pocket of my door. i cut open my knuckle and there's a bloodstain on the door, on the driver side. >> preemptive strike that we didn't know that. right away we established the fact that on the day his wife disappears he cut himself so there is blood. we've all seen enough on tv in real life to know that if there's blood found anywhere, it's going to be an issue. there will be a question so he's getting out in front of it. >> to prosecutors and met he cut himself while he was stuffing lacey in the toolbox. that's how he did it.

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the interview. the whole thing had seemed like there was a sensitivity chip missing. >> it's just not important, about that. glad that amber came forward. you admitted to not off? of my phone. i thought it was off. >> it was pretty surprising that he ignored the phone and he just kept talking over it like it was no big deal. if your wife is missing, any phone call could be the phone call and he didn't seem to care which just seems to show he didn't have much concern over lacey was but if that was a phone call that may have given them information, he wasn't interested in hearing it. >> okay.

you can ask the question again. >> he looks to me too be very, very free to pay attention to the interview. is like a coproducer of the interview. he sang look, all get back to the question and you'll get it on tape so he's not emotional, that's for sure. >> really, that's the most important thing in that moment when your wife is missing? you want to continue with an interview and not answer the phone to find out what he has to say. >> i went over the question and he went right into his rehearsed answer and we went on from there. >> tell me about lacey. >> i think you can sum it up looking at her photograph with her big smile. >> what linked you guys? >> just being able to complete each other. i think that's it.

all you have to do is look at that picture. you know that she is a bright light in a lot of people's lives. >> it was hollow. it wasn't like he was creating these pauses because he was reflected on how much he adored lacey, he was just struggling to come up with an answer. just ask anyone about someone you love, you have a laundry list of things about that person that you love and it doesn't even take thought. he struggled. >> wife and he talked about the first time he laid eyes on her, what it was like when they got married. he doesn't talk about any of that. he just talks about the picture. he seems, in that moment to be disconnected. >> really, he does tell the truth sometimes and what he says is there's really nothing that i can tell you about what connected us, it's as much as her picture, it's what you looking at the newspaper might feel. he really can't tell you why

the two of them are connected because guess what, they never did connect. >> i thought that would be one of the most easiest questions to answer which is why i left it for the end because you want to leave with a final heartfelt type of response. you want the public to connect to the bat, but i don't think they connected to it. >> thank you. >> lacey wasn't coming back. it was clear to me. the last person to see her with scott. his answers were cold, they were calculated, they were empty. i knew he had a lot to hide. >> did you think you are sitting across from lacey's killer? >> no one has ever asked me tha that.

i did. i did. and i'll tell you why, because sometimes you know in your gut. i'm sorry. you know in your gut that something bad has happened and i could feel it. in that whole and i think that's why it was so hard because as a journalist, you have to be objective. you have to keep this, what's happening here out. you can't cry, you can't show emotion come a you have to be neutral. i was, but you can't help what

your gut is telling you. you can't help what your heart is telling you. this was the first time people are talking to him. people are trying to feel his heart, feel his anguish and it wasn't there. that was troubling to me because that told me well, i guess my gut is right. he did do something to her. now, that's thinking outside the box! at helzberg diamonds. while supplies last. ( ♪ )

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>> so at a certain point, it was pretty much presumed that lisa peterson and her unborn boy connor were deceased. on april 13 and april 14, the bodies of both washed up on

the shore. it was clear to everyone in the world that they had been murdered. >> this is a fox report news alert. police are scheduled to hold right now, a news conference on what many fear could be the end of the search for lacey peterson. two bodies found in richmond california, one just 3 miles from the berkeley marina. >> the police are very interested in the discovery of both of these victims because the bodies found on sunday were that of a baby boy and the corpse found on monday morning was that of a woman. pieces of maternity clothing were found on the woman skeletal remains. >> the dna laboratory in richmond has been working 247 to identify the remains of an adult female and a baby boy. >> the unidentified female is lacey peterson. be identifie unidentified fetus is the biological child of lacey and scott peterson. >> when lacey came up, she didn't have head, arms, one leg was not present, and the other was partially present. the cause of death is not clear because the most common

way that death would occur is from a head injury or strangulation. those parts of the bodies were missing. >> connor is in very good condition and that's because, in the three and half months connor has remained in lacey's uterus. in death she protected the baby. >> when they came out and said they had made a positive identification, it was, you are a reporter, but your person and to hear that it really was tm, this really happened, it just feels like the whole bottom goes out from under you. >> i remember getting the tip that a female torso had washed up. right away, i call brent and i said brent, did you hear. he said yes. he said it's lacey. we both cried on phone. at that point you're not a

journalist, your a friend. that was probably the hardest phone call i had to make. >> i know god has been watching over them since christmas eve and sent her back to us on good friday. now we can bring them home where they belong. lacey and her unborn child did not deserve to die. they certainly did not deserve to be dumped in the bay and sent to a watery grave as if their lives were meaningless but we will seek justice for her and connor and make sure that person responsible for their deaths will be punished. >> a lot of questions were answered by finding the body. the fact that he was in the vote at the time she disappeared in the body was recovered three half months later, not far away are all issues that the jury then decides whether there sufficient to find a person guilty, even though there's limited forensic evidence. the autopsy itself doesn't tell why except it tells you

that it wasn't a stranger. >> was there a chance that some of the else dumped lacey peterson in the bay? you have to keep that open until you report. >> you're trying to give everyone the facts of the case, but the facts of the case are lining up perfectly. it shows he is the one responsible for the. >> people were already suspicious of scott peterson, the way he behaved, the whereabouts at the time of her disappearance, and now this was conclusive proof that a homicide had occurred. and, all the world could see that it had occurred at the hands of scott peterson. >> the idea that the husband could look at his wife and cause that type of harm and make a conscious decision to drive to the area and put her body into the open water is unimaginable. but yet, here we were having

to say the words. thinking about those moments. >> knowing what i know about scott, when he dropped her body into the bay, i think he was thinking about not being discovered, not about second thoughts, not about i wish you have been different, none of that. i think it was all about is it deep enough, how long will her remains take to dissolve. i think when he dropped her body, he probably felt a tremendous weight lifted from him. we would like to think he would drive back in the vote in tears saying what i done. more likely, there was a fist pump and a sense of being superman. he is like at the top of the world, at the top of his gain. he is god. he's very powerful. it's intoxicating.

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this is a fox news alert. an arrest in the lacey peterson investigation. >> scott peterson, the husband of lacey peterson was arrested in san diego for the murder of his wife. law-enforcement tells me that all along they believe scott peterson was responsible for this murder. >> as the water washed the body of lacey peterson and her son up to the shore, the walls are closing in on scott peterson. >> the moment they pull him over in front of the golf course and they are going to take him into custody and he doesn't put up a fight, he doesn't make a run for it. he seems like he's ready for it, which fits his description of his demeanor. he's always mr. cool. he's always calm. he's not fighting and frantic, he never is that. >> scott peterson may have left modesto quietly but when he was brought back overnight

and booked into the jail, the cameras were rolling in the crowd was there. scott peterson reportedly had $10000 in cash, his brothers id, and a smart alec attitude when cops busted him for the murder of his pregnant wife. then there is a change of appearance. the blond hair and goateed making you wonder if he was getting ready to run. he had tried to alter his appearance, dying his beard, he had cash, he had a weapon, camping paraphernalia, water. five, everything that looks like a man on the run. he had weight much stuff to just be casually going out of town. that was being prepared to be on the run for a while. they catch them, they got them, they're taking him in. he said i've heard there were bodies, tommy it wasn't them, he knows that it's them and off he goes. backup to jail in northern california, coming back to

modesto. >> now sporting blonde hair and a goatee, he is being housed in a single cell in maximum security. he is said to be fearful and anxious as he contemplates the charges against him. two counts of capital murder which will make him eligible for the death penalty. >> at this time scott peterson is taken into custody without much and we proceed to the trial. >> in terms of the trial itself, it was an absolute circus. it really was, to the point where there were tickets that you had to get to get into the courtroom. no matter the evidence, no matter the witness, no matter how short the court day was, those seats were filled. everybody wanted to see this unfold. >> i sat in on the trial and watched it day after day after day. he saw a man completely dispassionate, associated from everything going on around him. >> when you think about it, you think what is it that you expect to see. this is a man who claims he is innocent.

do we expect him to stand up and yell i'm innocent? that is not how it really happens in the real courtroom. >> the prosecutor is now saying there's plenty of evidence that scott peterson killed his wife. he said some of it is direct evidence and some is circumstantial. some of the circumstantial evidence against scott peterson is already known. he went fishing where lacey and his unborn son washed ashore. he had an extramarital affair - there are new photos surfacing showing that he was leading a double life. take a look at scott and lacey in front of the christmas tree on the right-hand side of the screen and a picture with the woman he had an affair on the right. >> amber frey was a single mother in fresno and scott peterson had met a friend of hers at a conference in anaheim and had said i'm looking to meet somebody, do you have any single friends who are ready for a relationship. >> scott told me he was not

married. we did have a romantic relationship. >> amber frey did not know scott was married because he told her he was not married. she had no reason to think he was married or had a pregnant wife at home. >> the loose ends never appealed to him. he wasn't somebody who was going to tell a lover of his, by the way, i am married. it's easier because the truth doesn't matter. it's easier to get people to do what you want by never bringing it up. like there is no need to know basics. there's never a need for people to know. for scott peterson, his story is what matters. what he wants to happen. other people are dispensable. >> amber frey has been operative in the investigation and has been eliminated as a suspect in lacey peterson's disappearance. >> the evidence clearly, in my mind points to scott partly he's there with the body, it

was placed in the san francisco bay when it happened, and the circumstances around it gave him a motive to do something. >> two people get kidnapped off off the street? of course they do, we report on that all the time. the people suddenly leave their lives and decide they don't want to be a part of their lives and get in the car and go somewhere else? yes, we've reported on not to, but this is different. there is no way this is somebody who has just taken off. >> when i would watch scott in the courtroom every day, sometimes he would turn around and smile and look at the people in the courtroom in a very smug and arrogant, as if he thought this case wasn't going to stick to him, as if he thought he wasn't going to be held responsible for the murder of his wife and unborn son, but the jury had a different outcome than scott peterson anticipated.

>> without a warning judge said the verdict will be read in this amount of time and it was chaos. all the sudden, this huge crowd gathered in front of the courthouse and people have their transistor radios never but he was trying to listen somebody could hear what was happening. >> we the jury find the defendant guilty of the crime of murder of lacey peterson. [applause] resolution to a murder case that has gripped the nation for nearly two years. tonight, scott peterson stands convicted of both first and second degree murder in the death of his wife lacey and their unborn child. >> the front of the courthouse was far from where the actual courtroom was. i remember sitting in the courtroom and i remember hearing the applause and

cheers from very deep in that courthouse. you could hear it and it was chilling. it was chilling to hear that public reaction. you see people cheering that he's guilty, and it's like the super bowl win and you have people with signs, murderer, baby killer, this is not a time to celebrate or rejoice, this is just tragic all the way around. there is no winner, none. >> we came in, the families were relieved but emotional. lacey's family cried and scott's family, as i recall, sat pretty stonefaced, and it was a very emotional moment. scott did not cry. he just looked and listened and that's all he did.

>> it's wintertime in redwood city. it's gray and cold and as i was walking away from where we broadcast across from the jail, i could hear the inmates rattling around and the seriousness and heaviness of all that start settling in and you realize he's sitting in their waiting for that final sentencing. >> your thinking to yourself how did he think this was going to end. and that's one of the question many people still have for him. how did you think you're going to get away with this? no matter who shows up. do you like nuts?

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prison on death row for the first degree murder of his wife lacey peterson and second-degree murder of his son. >> to many people, the story has got every element to it. but, the tragedy is, there are real families here. real families are hurting that will never get over this pain. you talked to lacey's family today and they are just as heartbroken as the day she disappeared. >> i think about sharon, i think about her and tie her family every so christmas. i think about the lifetime of sadness he sentenced everyone to because of what he wanted. >> for scott peterson, he doesn't feel badly about that because he's like what's the difference. there's no real reality, there's no feeling, it's just play acting. that's it. it's all about scott and

what's fun for scott. >> in terms of committing the cyber crime, i think the san francisco bay was the deepest grave within driving distance and the most terrific because we learned later that lacey often got seasick when she was on the vote and her mother brought that up in court saying you knew she got seasick and this is where you put her for all eternity. it was just like the heaviest thing because you realize even more how cruel it was. >> as a prosecutor handled the cases and victims of violent crime, my heart broke for lacey and connor and the life that she would never get to live and just the cold callous nature of scott peterson. >> when you watch them in the interviews, it's a most like we all know somebody like this. maybe we knew something like this in high school who felt like they can get away with anything and scott was known

to tell people what they wanted to hear. did he think he could get away with it? could he lie his way out of it? >> it's true what they say about narcissus. they always think they're smarter than you. he thought he could outsmart everyone, talk his way through anything, but then when the public that to see it, they could see right through it. they realize they were looking at a killer. >> think the reason he doesn't admit that he killed his wife and unborn child is that it's not a role he finds particularly appealing. he prefers the role of wrongfully accused man who might someday be free. >> when you think about people that are the boogie man, you don't think of scott peterson. you don't think of monsters looking like scott peterson. but some people would say he is a monster for what he did. >> what makes a person do that? that's what we want to know. when you look at him from the outside he seemed normal and that's the scary part.

monsters are supposed to look like monsters. this is somebody who looked like your everyday neighbor. this is in the person who is going to murder a pregnant woman. >> how could those hands have done what prosecutors say he did? how could those hands have dumped his pregnant wife into the san francisco bay? you can't even conceptualize it. you can't even wrap your head around it because everybody can put themselves in that position. they could've been lacey getting ready to have their first baby, have the nursery ready, have the baby's name picked out, all of that place with people's hearts and emotions because they put themselves in lacey shoes and say wow, that is the ultimate betrayal and that's what makes this story so tragic.

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