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thanks for joining us, out numbered, starts now. >> president trump and residence are celebrating a major legislative victory on tack reform. house speaker paul ryan wrapped up a ceremony to mark the passage before giving the final copy signed, seald and delivered for president trump for his signature this is out numbered. here is melissa francis. the editor of town hall.com. katie. under bush and obama jillian turner and on the couch steve is here he is out numbered a salute. that means a lot. >> to america and to you. >> thanks. it is your trade mark.
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it is real you are a veteran when we do it it it is civilians doing it. >> i shouldn't do it because i properly do it. [laughter]. >> may be. >> true. >> thanks for having me. >> let's go. president trump and the g. o. p. celebrating the legislative victory on tax cuts and job's creation. president thanking republicans yesterday at white house for passing the act. now they are working on sell itting to the american people. "washington post" talked to dozens of operatives saying the numbers are so bad things can only get better the president is trying add campaigns to drive the message the party to cut tax. >> we broke every record. it is the largest, the most massive. it is the largest fax cut in the history of our country. and reform. tax cut. >> a lot of fun when you win.
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if you work hard and lose that is not acceptable. we have not been a year. and we did the largest tax cut in our history. >> we can say, merry christmas again. people are saying merry christmas again. we like the sound. >> a number of large companies are announcing that once president trump signs the bill in to law they will give more to their employees including bonuses and higher pay. some of the companies include boeing, comcast, at&t and wells fargo. president trump tweet the tax cuts desperately to write about to police democrat bosses will speak for themselves. companies are making payments to workers. hate these big cuts? democratic senator chris van holen of maryland is responding to bonuses from at&t. watch. >> they are doing it as a pr
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stunt. the question -- these are one time bonuses. sounds nice that was not promised what was promised a 4 thousand dollars a year pay increase into the base. we know trickle down economics does not work. millions will see a tack increase in the coming year. and that is to pay for this huge corporate tax cut. >> reporter: i'm confused there is work to be done across america not just among republican voters but republicans to get the word out. why sell it after the fact? >> i think there has been so much misinformation in the process. >> reporter: why not combat that >> >> they tried to. i think when the president uses fake news media people want to roll their ice the reality is they want to make the plan look bad they want to beat the president. it will succeed. if people feel this bill empowered them and see
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monnetheir wallies and see jobs and companies stay or bonuses. you are welcome for your bonus. comcast owns nbc. you are welcome. when people -- when money is begin out and people are generous that is good. the economy, stupid. if president trump can run in 2020 on are you better off now than our years ago and this tax bill is a part of it. it does not need to be sold. it has been impuned by the left. >> you say some media. >> not all media. >> katie? >> they have to remind people it was republicans who passed this and this is before the mid term not only about reselling the plan that had a lot of misinformation. and it is true that according to poling that we sighted we don't know the details of the questions. people don't know or think it is going to benefit them. that will change once they see their paychecks come. this is about the politics and
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pr surrounding an election and reminding people as democrats take advantage of the economy and prove itting is was republicans who put this in place. >> i had a thought. what are they fighting about now. the legislation. they have to come up with a budget and keep the government open temperature does not hurt to show demonstrate to the other side the power that you va? >> absolutely. i think that in the end, i don't know how much that malice aforethoughts in terms of the voters that matter. it is what is in your wallet how you feel about this. and they can't make you feel better if you have less money you will have more money there is no disputing the companies listed one was wells fargo. i talked to jp morgan not long ago he was saying it is hard to keep a good teller this is a high skilled position. i have to pay them more and more. when you see a company like wells fargo saying i will put this money back out there in terms of wages, i know for sure
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that is true i know i talk to ceo who have to do that to keep people. on top you get a tax cut when you have more money republicans won't is to sell anything. on cat cattee political aspect. if the economy does not tank as many dem the kras are protecting they'll have little to run on -- in the mid terms in 2018 aside from just sort of emotional opposition for the president. i think that is where this proof is in the pudding thing come to play. voters have that monnetheir bank accounts, which is difficult to run against. or they will not. >> i think obama care in 2009 is an example of this. think about how that was wrapped and sold when what was said from obama about how great it would be what it would do for you. they felt and they had to deal with it. and it cost them the 2010 and
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the 2012 and the 2014 election. frankly -- >> no matter what. >> it matters what happens. >> it is difficult to convince people that money in bank accounts is a bad thing. [laughter]. right. >> no matter what. >> [laughter]. >> under lying point of this just with that one, those things will sunset and corporate taxes will not. that is part of the rhetoric from the left that is true. and if they push that hard people will get hookod the extra monnetheir paychecks which, come on who doesn't. it is our money. and you know that there is a subset clause. you know it got talked about within days of this voted on they may shorten the time that the families tax cuts stay in place. those are legitimate criticisms and republicans say wait until february and you will see. >> reason why well is a sunset on the families they can explain more is due to the senate rules and the wait votes work and the
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tale. >> residence should have sold it. people will not know that. or care >> well is nothing preventing republicans and democrats, frankly, from coming back when this sunset clause goes to place and say keep the tax cuts and if residence get more seats they can make them permanent. the other thing is this degrading with senator van hol an saying the left is on talking point t. is a thousand dollars bonus. just 800 more dollars. just $400 tell that to any person living paycheck to paycheck. a family trying to put kids through college and christmas gifts, braces, health insurance. any thing for them to act like any money they get to keep is bad or it is not enough, really it is insulting. i don't think that will work well for them. >> the talking ponent working well on the republican side when you see the extra monneyour
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check ask yourself, is that my money or the government's. democrats other party of send yao money to us we know how to spend it better than you. republicans come out the first time in a language time they have been unified on message that is one that resonates with people. >> well is a trade off, though, to push back a little. i agree with you. a thousand dollars is a lot of money in today's economy to every american temperature is about the trade off. democrats will make the argument that yes, may be have you a thousand dollars in your bank account but look around you what other public schools looking like? what is infrastructure? what are the roads and bridges look like? what dot parks look like how is public transportation? people have to medicare that decision for themselves and families. >> a thousand dollars. >> federal government taking more money today and people have been looking and going, what is my money buying me? and they look at the way their
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money is spent. i think i can spend my moan better. >> the city is a mess. >> one of the things that democrats were slow to learn you mentioned where they shed a thousand seats in state and capitol seats; but you know one thing they missed was that early on push against obama chairman once people figured out how it would die in their lives. it was a burden once we saw that dem the kras were not quick to pick up. republicans are not waiting. they see that there is some consternation and concern in america and they want to hit that early. how important is that? >> it is very important. once you get a narrative established it is tough to pull it back. i think that paul ryan you saw mitch mcconnell that was his excited face by the way >> can we show it? >> his impression is so good. >> but when you believe that actually stip lay the economy, then you say, i'm behind it.
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we will break in with breaking news. last week the united nations up at the lect your honor now i will tell what you is happens the united nations is getting ready to vote. and basically it is a vote of reputeiation against trump's decision to recognize jerusalem as israel's capitol. and voting is beginning. nikki haily says the assembly is considering a resolution about president's decision on jerusalem as you consider your vote i want you to know that president and u.s. take the vote importantly. i don't know how much people know this has been a strong reaction to the un members saying to the united states we don't appreciate your take on temperature the president -- saying well, we put a lot of money behind our support of the united nations take a look at the people who vote against us today. he doubled down on that language
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through nikki hail and he yesterday in his cap net meeting say i support what nikki haily and i worked on. called her nikki what we worked on in terms of that language and push back. you have a thought? >> yea. excuse me if the united states chooses where we place our embassy. no world body should tell us otherwise. unfortunately to be blunt, the un is an antiisrael and antimen cesspool they will use that body to condemn us in any turn. president trump made a bold move to move our capitol to jerusalem it is facts on the ground. now this is the world reacting to america first and doing it through this vote >> haily's comments the u.s. announcement is acknowledge is peace is best when all parties are honest about the basic facts. jerusalem has been the capitol since the country founding 70 years ago. the president's honest assessment does not foreclose
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opti options considered by israels and palestinians. what is happening today. what does this vote mean? >> i think that this is -- this is as pete said. the member country pushing against the united states's decision. personally, on this issue, i ted to agree with dennis ross who said this is a recognition of reality. i suspect that in the long-term history will prove this is the right decision to make. not just for the united states but for many other countries. the problem with not the problem. where i would push back is -- on nikki haily when she -- make comments about watching how you vote and -- sort of a very thin veiled threat to retaliate against counties that don't vote the way we want them to. there is a risk. i'm not saying she is not
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allowed do that or in the wrong. but saying that with. >> what is the risk? >> the risk is that the united nations who always been something -- the united nations for the united states has been a vehicle through which we exert our influence around the world. >> let me. >> that is right. i was saying before interrupted that it is that is why we have international organizations and the united states always been an active participate in them. >> i will step in. the results were on the screen a second agos. we were talking through them. you saw and i i don't know if we can pop them up. >> 35 is what i caught. in -- people have sustained. 128. there we go. nine against. what this means is that you know when america makes a decision, when our president makes a decision and he mentioned he and haily worked out the language
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that she was going to use. she's got the power of the president and the pulpit of the white house behind her. when you talk about money and how much we spend in our support military and in other ways are the un there is power there. do we is there this risk? do you see this risk jillian is talking about. gi think it would be there over time now we are in the other direction of being a push over we have distance to go before it gets to that point. what she said before was you know you guys come to us a lot for favors and influence and you are always crying on our door step. and we step in. >> resolutions. >> we come in and step in and help out. and we do that because we recognize that is part of our responsibility, it is in our best interests you said, but it is part of our responsibility as neighbors and this and that. this vote actual low means nothing because we will do it. all you is doing is choose to
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publ publicly slap us in the face for doing it and we don't appreciate that when we are helping everyone. we made a decision. we are doing it and you are publicly assistanting up and slap us and we don't like this. >> i don't want everybody to miss it. when we say 128 countries voted, yes. this is the resolution condemning our decision that we have a right to make through our president who we want to recognize having a capitol. where we want our u.s. embassies. unanimous vote in congress six months ago. the other presidents have not walked out what congress in the american people have wanted for decades. does not mean this changes the game in any other way like it is not like the president went rogue on this issue. >> unanimous concert with what we said as a nation through our elected leaders. this is what we want. now we see it. 128 nations said we are wrong about this. here is what nikki haily said
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before the vote. >> america will put our embas nejerusalem. no vote in the united nations will make any difference on that. this vote am make a difference on how americans look at the un. and on how we look at countries who disrespect us in the un. and this vote will be remembered. >> amen. >> good for her. >> the un may be should take a lock what the risk is to them. to condition to slam the united states when it is not just about the funding we give the un8 billion dollars a year more than all the other countries combined. we are the ones in the world who promote peace rather than the un. they are using american taxpayer money as un peace keepers engage in the sexual scandals taking advantage of the people they are supposed to be protecting have been the issue i come up with, too, the things they choose to condemn are blowing like the israeli/palestinian problem is
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the biggest prospect in the middle east. what about the thousands killed in syria. the genocides that go on in iraq against christians and meerntss. what know africa the un is doing nothing about they are busy condemning the united states and israeli which are two of the good force. >> katie, >> you are advocating for reform. not when. >> i think that is what the -- some of the more -- perspective is we got newos hez hez hez. what are your thoughts >> it is more antiritz really. my thoughts are it was a good idea for the right reasons after the world went to war twice. talk about it before we break out the guns. and we do have a veto power real
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exercised in this case. so we have a lot of influence. it used to serve our influence. now the un is used against us by smaller countries to gang up to be anti-american and vote against us they love to pass resolutions to feel go good about themselves in the press but never enforce them. a piece of paper means nothing. why should we submit to this body this san example. god bless what president trump and nic has done n. united nagsz you saw it live here out numbered at the united nations 128 countriesed yes condemning the united states's decision to recognize isreal's capitol as jerusalem and that is the shake out. nine, no's saying they are with us and 35 abstentions. i want to give you that vote
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intelligence committee. oshg re was demoted after revealed he had meetings with the officials from fusion gps. that is the first behind the unverified anti trump dallas yea. and edward mccabe boor the house judiciary committee feels questions from another house panel for seven hours on tuesday regarding republican occurrence of biassed within the agency. doug is live in washington with the details. a lot to cover there. >> iel, we know that fbi director mccabe was seen entering a room for a day of questioning. we are called mccabe over saw the investigation to clinton's e mails. that while his wife was running for office in virginia and accepted half million dollars from a hilary clinton link campaign group. sources say in testimony yesterday, mccabe could not
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recall when he learns the clinton campaign and dna paid for that commission by the research firm fusion gps. set to testify before the cent intelligence committee is bruce or e the deputy attorney general demoted after fox revealed he had secret meetings with glen sipson and the former british spy who did the leg work christopher steel. fox revealed ore's wife was hired by fusion and worked during the sum and fall of 2016 on the trump project. a lot of intelligence committee interest stems from texts that fbi official peter struck exchanged with his mistress. that one text which raised questions was referenced i will read it to you. i want to believe that the path you through out for consideration in andy's office there is no way he gets elected,
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meaning, trump. we can't take that risk it is an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before 40. last night martha asked intelligence member peter king weather mccabe was asked if he was the andy. >> did he confirm that andy's office is his office. gi was not there when he confirmd that. i think he did he did not answer the questions. >> this morning on america's news room sarah sanders reiterated the president's statement he has no intention of miring mueller we look forward to seeing this hoax wrapped up. back to you. >> doug, thank you very much for that. katie what is the biggest piece to this story? is it the meeting with bruce ore. he was demoted over the fact he met with this british spy who put together this fake smear campaign paid by the democrats
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and met with them afterwards. you think to what information there and spy on the other campaign? >> i think a few big pieces. it is hard to point out just one. there are serious questions about the meeting that was allegedly took place inn drew's office and why fbi agents on official government time were somehow conspiring for an insurance policy and what that policy actually meant. we have allegations of what may be through reporting at the wall wa street journal. activelies the russia investigation if that is true that is using a law enforcement agency to go after a presidential candidate. there are questions about why is it that the doj was linked with something that was pay borrow by the clinton campaign and was it used to go to court to get warrants to spy on people of american citizens working on the trump transition team.
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those are two big questions. >> it was formed by never trumpers. >> residence. you the beginning of the research started there. >> you are right. totally right. >> but at the same thing had is a bureaucratic conspiracy. you have folk in government before the election the troubles part bruce met after the election. after it would have been discredit if you researched it was some believe an insurance policy as peter talked about in the texts with lisa page. >> go ahead and use it to get by the warrants and. >> in coming president to impune his credibility which is what they have done. >> this is -- appears to be the extension of what everybody feared when you start 11 nothing on phone conversations and getting warrants in the long run, could the government use it for l own political purpose. at a time like 911 when we are
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concerned keeping everybody safe. someone could use this to spy on their opponent. who cares we want to be safe is this that coming true? >> a quick note it is funny what you said i shook highed i thought you you were gooing to sigh this is the people's fears about the deep state. i tried to push back on this series of events left me feeling very skeptical and alarmed. >> yea. to be honest. series of texts and i feel like the intelligence community has a right to their personal opinions and have an obligation to keep those opinions private. and out of the work place and completely, completely out of a discussion with their colleagues on a daily basis. this is alarmed me >> can i make a comment. you know my question is the end game if we find bias with the fbi. i think we need to have a
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conversation about that, our leaders will let us know what that looks leak. because all of this is exercise, then. there has to be some sort of result. if well is bias at the fbi, and it is demonstertive and in the bloodstream, how do we fix t. now tax is behind them they home to avert a shut down. whether they will pass a spending bill in time. and the political fall out if they don't. new details on the stunning amount in congressional sexual harassment lawsuits all on your dime the taxpayer. now law makers are pressing for transparency whether the culture will change. keyboard clacking ] [ mouse clicks, keyboard clacking ] [ mouse clicking ] [ keyboard clacking ] [ mouse clicking ]
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house residence appear to be close nothing on a stopgap measure. keeps the gentleman funded through january 19th paving the way for law makers to punt most of their to do list in the new year. when is the last time we had a budget? >> i think we were -- i don't know. >> all right. >> senate leader mitch mcconnell said the senate is ready to take up the funding bill. democrats condition to push for including protections for dreamers. immigrants brought illegally as children. watch. >> problems with this bill, we see it as an opportunity for them to allow a vote. at least allow a vote on dreamers which we think we would winful but hopefully we made progress and in their thinking that as to the urjens of it. >> go to peter live from the hill with the latest. peter. good to see you.
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>> residence are not counting on democratic support in the house or senate inform their own ranks they are working on the temporary budget that would keep current spending levels right where they are for another couple of weeks. included in their plan, a reauthorization of that program that let's law enforcement spy on people in the state section 702 and extension of the children's health insurance program. >> our democrat colleagues are unable to make that commitment to american families. thus far they have opposed all of our efforts to include five years, 5 ears of chip fund nothing this week's agreement. >> reporter: simultaneous else on the table today a separate 81 billion dollars of government assistance for victims of this year's hurricanes, floods and fires. democrats don't care for this supplemental disaster funding but does not sound like they will stand in republicans way as
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long as daca come up next month and law makers talk about legal solutions for people brought here legally as kids >> we to solve this here in congress. so, dem the kras want to make sure that we have equal bargaining. we are not going to allow things like disaster relieve go forward without discussing the other issues we care about i mentioned. >> reporter: we have not seen official legislation and official resolution, so the vote on the floor and the debate has not started yet. there is brat urgency to get it rolling on the house side where they must start they have to finish there and senate by mid night tomorrow. >> peter, thank you very much. you know i aunt take notes on what peter tells me. when i see that melissa is taking notes. >> scribbling. it makes americans furious. it makes me so mad to seat
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jackass jackasses tied up in knots for problems they created. i think they can say that they are donkeys. i think republicans, too. they write these laws. they go toward the cliffs and stand over them lick they are dying. chuck schumer talking about disaster relief fox business adam is saying they are cotton give away in the disaster relief. it is all such nonsense. it is so created by them on purpose and hay act like our hands are tied. they treat us like we are stupid. and it is frustrating. >> i was going to say something, she said it. >> well said. >> interesting. it is true. you got you want to look at the -- comparison of republicans and dem the kras. residence will say we cut your tacks and we are building you a border wall and end chain migration. democrats will say we got one,
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keeping people here illegally still here. i get the dreamers did not come here of their own volition it is a good trade for the president but a demonstration of priorities t. is americans first or dreamers first and i think voters see that. >> that is a very fair point. you are pitting people against each other nowhere is the idea that this policy is going away. because it was never intended last forever. it is broken as it is. don't you think, pete, okay. the republican controlled congress both chambers and republican controlled executives, don't you think the blame in 2018 if there is a shut down will go -- on the shoulders of residence? >> may be the president has done a great job obstructionist. we did not get one vote for tax reform for cutting taxes. they are resisting this president from inauguration to
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today. why would a voter go of course the government is shut down they are not getting cooperation. >> i don't know, iate the word optics the optics will land with the republicans. >> not with trump in charge he is better messages and beating the drama against democrats for three weeks on the spending issue. >> going on since he got in office. >> a new report that jeff sessions is order iing to take fresh lookace the russian deal that benefited will clintons. could they find a need for a special prosecutor? will anybody be held acounselable? urine ianium
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ask fbi agents to explain evidence they found in a criminal investigation in the russia uranium one deal that benefited bill and hilary to the tune of million in donations to their found alzheimer. move reportedly an effort to have a promise made by an official to congress last month to examine weather a special council is needed to look into the deal. we hear special council for this and that. how much investigation is too much? not saying it is but -- >> it seeps like there is no end game. i think with this one it is one of the issues that we see where do you know what is in someone's heart when it locks like a quid pro quo. they decide something or vote or push for something that is favorable to that first person. person who you know seems to be guilty say i would vote that way. and that's why we do things when you can't do this the appearance
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of impriority is wrong. you will never have that smoking gun, if i give you this money am you guarantee me you will shove this dealllow and the other person says, yes, in the e mail. you don't have the smoking gun. you feel like you know it is there. with this it is obviouslily it never made sense to give uranium to russia ever. if you start there. it is obvious. >> what about the national security implications? what people say it is one thing if they were getting rich off donation the uranium issue is another issue considering it has to do with u.s. national security. >> when this story first broke me thought was are there major national security implications because one of the things that putin does best is use control of energy strategicically to wield power across europe. whether there is debate whether
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we were giving russian backed companies access to 20 or 15 or 10% of u.s. uranium supply. i was saying, how about zero. to answer your question i feel that the national security issue is not as bad as the optics of, using that word again. don't want to use that word but the risks of the on the surface looking like -- quid pro quo and potentially corruption. i think that is more dafrpgz dafrngz than the russians have access to uranium >> if you did one why can't you do more. from a journalism standpoint, when you say the word russia, it e vocabularyings things among people in america. it is not good to think that think american are not talking about this those who talk taik talk about this, are they ever
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getting to the bottom of it. if it has russia in it lock at all of it. the clintons, all of the it we respondent minullions what we kw is not evidence with the trump team and russia. but evidence for perhaps of meddling in our election, look at it all. see what was happening with the clintons. >> you get to the bottom without a special council real is a bureau of investigation. if it is pliicized. >> exactly. >> moving afternooning. nunumbers revealing how much congress paid in sexual harassment suits. we will look at dollars and cents and weather they spark real reform. nick is a logistical mastermind. when it comes to moving packages on a global scale, nobody does it better. he's also an avid cookie connoisseur. dig in, big guy. but when it comes to mortgages, he's less confident. fortunately for nick, theres rocket mortgage by quicken loans.
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>> reporter: detail to the stunning number paid out in congressional sexual harassment haught lawsuits on the taxpayer's dime. the office of compliance where victims file compliants the total settlements grown to 200 thousand dollars in the past decade four congressmen rocking washington stepped downer announced they will not seek reelection. al franken accused by sic women of groping or trying to kiss
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them will resign on january second. all this the house will introduce a bill that would require law makers to reimburse taxpayers for sexual harassment paves and make the member's offices that handle the pay out in the the amounts public. can't be 200 thousand dollars. that does not sound like a lot. >> well is something there. taxpayer dime. we don't know about it, it seems leak well is literally no cost to the lawmaker. >> well is not. and there has not been cost in accountsable up until this point. one thing i say is that it is terrible that any democrat or republican use taxpayer money to pay off harass am. gentleman politicians who ran on being good stewards of taxpayer money who do this secretly it is worse for them. they should think better and they do. it does not excuse dem the kras
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doing it based on what they claim to stand for the fact they would use american money to get rid of bad behavior is apauling >> well is an element of h hypocrisy. >> well is an element for dem the kras. >> preaching should be held up and it is worse. [laughter] go ahead. >> to me it is another demonstration that washington, d.c. plays by itself own rules they write rules to benefit themselves. they hide behind closed doors. no trance paraphernalias in the public, the only way a voter can judge whether they want to send this person to washington or not. the system benefits from no trans transparency they did not want a single doctor to come out this . may be propose whatted will matter if people vote and if it passes and changes. we hear about it all the time but rarely gets passed. >> it is up to the people and the congress to figure this out
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stat. because what is coming up for them is they have to lay down the rules of the road and try to manage this in a way that sets an example for the country. mean itting is not hollywood's job to lead by example. not media's job. >> the congress job? it is on this issue. >> but that should be the role. and. though they are -- gravely remiss in managing this. that is what they should do. >> another question when we talk about transparency with this issue it cuts both ways. you see we should know all the details about harassment may be the victim it is nowant details out the perpetrator will go against somebody else. may be the victim does not want anyone to know what happened. may be you know could be a man who is falsely accused and that is out well and he never did it. the transparency thing on the sexual harassment can cut both
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studio. >> melissa: we are back here tomorrow at noon eastern but for now, here's harris. >> harris: don't hit the pause button for congress just yet. they are now in full goal mode trying to stop the looming government shutdown. with "outnumbered overtime," i'm harris faulkner. it's shaping up to be a very late thursday night for lawmakers fresh off the historic republican win on tax reform. congress must now can't pass a bill keeping the government open past midnight tomorrow. and the g.o.p. may be on their own. nancy pelosi is urging that any measure include protections for dreamers. president trump sounding off on the potential sand off, tweeting "house democrats want to shut down for the holidays in order to distract from the popular, just past tax cuts. have house republicans, don't let this happen. pass the
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