he said, strangers have responded with gifts. we love that. merry christmas. and we are grateful he spent the evening with us. >> tucker: good evening, and welcome to tucker carlson tonight. like a lot of actors, matt damon has a weakness foror silly fashionable politics. otherwise, he seems like a decent enough guy. certainly by the standards of the world he lives in where the business where stars often behave like demanding children a place where harvey weinstein was long considered a moral leader matt damon stands out. he is apparently well liked by everybody he deals with. he gives generously to charities. he has been married to the same woman for a dozen years. raising four daughters. no one has ever even accused him of sexual misconduct. suddenly that doesn't matter matt damon's career is in jeopardy. more than 20,000 people have signed a petition for calling for producers to cut day monday from latest film. that movie has already been

shot but the petition demands any evidence of his voice or image be removed from the film in the editing booth. other people are saying day f monday ought to be denied future film roles and he may. what did he do to destroy his reputation in short period of time. last week he gave an interview abc news about the wave of sex scandals in hollywood. no, he didn't defend sexualex harassment in that interview. he didn't suggest the accusers are lying. he didn't say anything remotely like that. though you would never know it from the coverage whichte in some cases omits any of damon's direct quotes. we'll let you decide for yourself what you think of matt damon's views. here is what he actually said to abc news.. >> i do believe that there's a spectrum of behavior, right, and we're going to have to figure out likee what, you know, there's a

difference between, you know, patting someone on the butt and rape or child molestation, right? both of those behaviors need to be confronted and irradicated without question. but, they shouldn't be conflated. >> tucker: damon went on to say we live in culture of outrage and injury and have to correct enough to say wait a minute none of us came here perfect. we are in the moment, at the moment and i hope it doesn't stay this way. clearer signal to men and younger people is deny it because if you take responsibility for what youu did, your life is going to get ruined.sp all of that behavior needs to be confronted but there is a continuum and on this end of the continuum where have you rape and child molestation or whatever, you know, that's prison. that's criminal behavior andhi it needs to be dealt with that way. the other stuff is kind of shameful and gross. i don't know louie ck i never met him. i'm not fasten his. i don't imagine he is going to do those things again. do you know what i mean? i imagine the price he hason paid at this point is so beyond anything that he -- i think we have start delineating what these behaviors are end quote.

there it is. there are a couple of incomplete thoughts in there. there a line or two average publicist would advise you against expressing in public. be honest, how much of that do you actually disagree with? how much is hateful or immoral or otherwise beyond the pale? none of it? exactly. there is not a single sentiment in that entire paragraph that's not defensible or 90% of the population would find over the top or outrageous. it's all within bounds or it would have been last year. but, because a handful of twitter users don't like it, the rest ofs have you to pretend that matt damon is somehow guilty of somethingen awful. if we don't pretend, we may ourselves be seen as collaborators of whatever crimes he supposedly committed and forced to share his punishment.cr it's terrifying and it's corrupting. this is how reasoned guys, we are watching it happen. most of us are too afraid to say anything about it as it happens. meanwhile the mostre reasonable voices get louder by the hour. yesterday actress rose mcdid you goen ordered et media to stop using the word

alleged when describing claims of sexual misconduct. in other words, everyone accused is guilty. if you deny that you are guilty too. weirdly almost noble in thee media pushed backs against rose mcgowan's demand. before long they have to follow her she has nearly a million twitter followers. she is calling the shots. let's be honest what's happening. social media is demand driving it. large portions of our population and ironically they tend to be the best educated portions of the population are now addicted to outrage. virtue signaling, band wagoning, social media did that it turns out it's not that helpful to know what every famous person in america is thinking at all times.er it just makes us all crazy and less content.s. a few weeks ago former facebook president sean. parker admitted the website he helped found facebook quote literally changes your relationship with society and with each other. parker was right. it is all shredding our social fabric before our eyes. remember, you have an

absolute right to say what you think is true. other people might not agree with you but that's okay it doesn't make either of you evil or mean you ought to be fired from your job.t' it just means you disagree. that has always been true. it was true before smart phones and no matter what they say on twitter, it's true now. joining us now radio show host tammy bruce. n so, tammy, i never thought that i would defend matt damon and i'm not actually really defending matt damon, i'm defending the proposition that you say something that other people disagree with without being fired for it and we seem to have lost that. >> yeah, indeed. look, i also loathe him. he said some things about the president and aboutt others which politically i very much disagree with. i don't know him. but he seems to me to be like the blind squirrel here. every now and then you find a nut. and he has found one because he is right. you are absolutely right in your assessment leading into this. but as a feminist, here isnt also what i see in this regard. i have been arguing from the beginning here that we need to be careful as i saw the attempt to conflate guys

being jerks with guys who are actual predators. and the women involved in this and the people on the t left argue that well we don't want him and others to trivials these serious allegations. what really trivializes them, tucker, when you do compare a man calling youu beautiful as you walk down the hallway or maybe rubbing your back with an act of rape that trivializes those survivors, what they have been through. and i think as most people understand that, as we listen to as you read what matt damon said. and this is now our challenge. because this is what the left always does. i they use a serious issue that people, we know it has to be dealt with.t and then write it and then abuse it, they go too far. it's almost like the french revolution. people begin to do things simply because they can. and they use it for revenge or because they can't stop their rage. and then everybody is going

to have to pay -- jody foster i have think said i saw a headline the other day that every man over the age of 30 is somewhat culpable for the sexual harassment we now face. i have found in my life it's been men who have been most helpful and the most decent to me. with women not necessarily being so. so, this is an issue of behavior. it's not an issue about men or sex even as we know. it's about control. i think that unless we get a handle on this and have an honest conversation, you're going to have the left once again shredding an important issue like sexual harassment, sexual assault because they don't know, they have no boundary of what's important. and then conflating everything and then just simply vomiting their rage out on everyone. >> tucker: exactly. it diminishes the experienceou of people who really have suffered. >> exactly.ie >> tucker: if you lost your legs in ied and i closed my hands in a car door you would say we both suffered in a same way. you say actually i had my leg blown off.

you broke a finger. they are not the same. >> there are different things in the workplace and seriousness. workplaces clearly are dealing with that we have to be careful with single voices who have perhaps originally some very important things to sail and then something changes in s that framework because they should not be conflated. these things are different. there is a continuum. and certain voices, hopefully voices like ours will remind people of these things and make sure we don't have a wholesale effectively a beheading ofof everyone who the left doesn't like or that feminists don't like because then we are all going to lose. >> tucker: that's exactly right. let reasonable people speak. tammy, you are a reasonable person. thank you. >> thank you, sir, i appreciate it. >> tucker: dr. carol leashman is a psychiatrist and frequent expert witness in sexual harassment cases she she joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. >> thank you.. >> tucker: things are change quickly about our attitudes about sexual harassment, y

sexual assault. what's the downside of this potentially. >> everything is really out of control. this has become such a bandwagon. now, certainly there are a lot of women who have been sexually harassed. have been sexually abused. a lot of these things are valid. but, i think the problem is that there are some women who have joined this bandwagon who have not been sexually harassed or abused but who are angry at men for their own personal reasons and have extended this way beyond what the original concept was. i mean, we're now going into the american values of free speech and presumed innocent. you can't have that anymore. people are being tried in the media because of these allegations. i mean, not even suppose to say allegation. that is absurd. and so matt damon, you know, here's a -- because he was connected in some way to

harvey weinstein, because he didn't speak out against him, now people are going after him because he's a friend or a coworker. i mean, where does this end? it's like 1984. and it's eroding our trust. men and women, you know, forst women to have power it's not to be like men or make men feminized, to make them to take away their power to castrate them. that's essentially what's happening. it's better to be able to work together in an environment. share both of the thingsgs that each one has that can add to the other.vi it's not about -- i mean, yes, certainly women deserve -- there's is the pay discrepancy and all these kinds of things, it's true. but to be go about it in this mass hysteria kind of way and to take away things that we really need to rely on as i said like presumed innocent and free speech is just going way beyond what is called for. >> tucker: i also suspect in ways i can't completely

articulate that some of the victims in this are going to be women down the line.hi >> yes. d you know, this is not -- people are not -- women are not looking at this for the long term. there is going to be effects. women are going to be hired less because men are going to be afraid that they are going to accuse them of sexual harassment. really, what is even more powerful is if we're not allowed to hug or flirt or i mean, the relationship, the love relationship, and i'm not saying that harasser and a victim, you know, that that's a love relationship.m, but, you know, love has actually been under fire now for a while. i mean, there is no dating anymore. people are going to websites, internet and so on. no flirting. i mean, we're really losing a lot of what is good or was good in a relationship. >> tucker: it sure seems that way and not pausing to

think of the consequences, unfortunately.y. >> exactly. >> tucker: dr. lieberman, thank you, i appreciate your insight. >> thank you. >> tucker: why the obama administration appeared to protect the terror group hezbollah. we will talk to somebody who says the story is not a big deal. it's made up. stay tuned.y liberty mutual stood with me when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night, so he got home safe. yeah, my dad says our insurance doesn't have that. what?! you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. when heartburn hits fight back fast with tums chewy bites. fast relief in every bite. crunchy outside. chewy inside. tum tum tum tum tums chewy bites.

♪ >> tucker: in a bid for a nuclear >> tucker: in a bid for a nuclear deal with iran, the obama administration reportedly allowed the terror group hezbollah to smuggle massive amounts tons

of cocaine into the united states. it was a stunning decision, some congressional republicans are demanding answers. yesterday two of them september a letter to the department of justice demanding all documents they might have about this question. many democrats meanwhile argue this is both old news and a distraction and by the way untrue. n richard good stein advised both of hillary clinton's presidential campaigns he joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. >> sure. good to be here. >> tucker: you wrote a piece in politico. author probable liberal quoting a number of people interviewing dozens of obama administration employees atqu treasury and dea who said in some cases on the record in testimony before congress that the obama people slowed down the investigation to get the iran deal. why would they all lie about that? >> well, couple things. this is a predicate. this smells like benghazi which is to say it's a much s ado, indeed a lot to do about nothing, ultimately. the answer to your question, is that the people who were name sources, why would they

do it? because they had a bias which is to say they never liked the iran deal from word go and people later asked to comment about the story from john brennan on down they said there is nothing to this. >> tucker: john brennan the guy always jumping around on twitter. john brennan is not credible. he is a ludicrous figure. read his twitter feed if you don't believe me. i want to get back to the motive here.or the author, again, for politico, liberal publication supported the obama administration all eight years pretty consistently interviewed obama employees who said not that they didn't like the iran deal. mane they didn't like it. t there are reasons not to like it. but very specifically the obama people tried to squelch operation cassandra, an investigation and operation designed to stop hezbollah drug dealing in the americas. why would they lie about

that? >> i don't know that they did lie. because if you look at the story, everything is kind of m qualified, right? they talk about what might have happened.k what could have happened. they talk about the fact that, well, the czech republic could have been pressured to do more to release somebody. i mean, it's one qualifierre after another.od and i think that speaks to the fact that those people who spoke, again, not for attribution didn't really know and the people who didd know weren't interviewed for the record. >> tucker: well, it's the people who ran the program were quoted, who ran the dea program who said, look, we had them. and because the obama people wanted to get this iran deal, they made us pull back and tons of cocaine wound up in circulation in the united states. t it just doesn't -- i mean it, would be one thing if it was the koch brothers are alleging something or some o long-time enemy of the obama people. these are obama's own employees, dozens of them. it's hard to see their motive for lying about this. >> obamas were people who worked in the federal government when barack obama were president. >> tucker: their boss was

barack obama. his picture hung in their office. >> trump's people when they're not going along with the program. >> tucker: 80% of federalpl employees vote democrat.t. probably not a lot of right wingers, right? >> my point is they had anoy agenda they didn't like the iran deal. i think they are now trying to get their rocks off by trying to talk to this reporter to talk -- let me say two other things. >> tucker: so they're lying. all these people are lying about the same thing is what you are saying? why not just criticize the iran deal. wouldn't that be easier? >> they should have been doing that if that's what they thought.. >> a no war with hezbollah just parenthetically since 2006 and iranians do not have a nuclear weapon. again, i don't think there is a connection. i believe these very senior people obama administrationn, since this politico story said there is nothing to it in the most vehement terms they can. >> tucker: it's horrifyingng and reflects so poorly on them. it doesn't answer the question in the specifics. the piece says specifically

hezbollah's main arm's dealer was nabbed by an eastern european government. the united states could have extradited him but didn't because it didn't want to quell the deal. >> it says they didn't put sufficient pressure on. as a factual matter the u.s. condemned the czech republic for not releasing this guy. >> tucker: we condemn lots of things. the guy is back in beirut selling arms. >> to somehow attribute that to barack obama because thek czech republic held a guy they wouldn't release to the united states and ultimately they did release into his own, somehow or another, that's benghazi stuff. >> tucker: i don't want to address benghazi because it's an entirely different story and a different fact set, but, this piece ales that tons of cocaine made it into this country. and the obama administration knew, the dea knew it was coming into the country. i mean, that doesn't seem to be much debate about that. >> well,. >> tucker: that seems like a

big deal to me given the toll that drugs have taken on the country in the last 10 years. >> right. nuclear weapons would take a much bigger toll on the world. okay. again, i don't subscribe to the nation. >> tucker: so there is a tradeoff. more people die -- >> -- no. and there would be penal dying who are united states citizens. i don't to the premise of the article. the fact of the matter i think if it was true. >> tucker: you just proved the premise of the article. i appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> tucker: despite a 50,000 word piece in politico kind of nailing the hezbollah story, the story with major implications, no one is really paying attention in the press. where it reprinted on the front page of the "new york times." no. are they talking about it on other morning stores? no. why is that joe concha pays close attention to the media and he writes for the hill. he joins us tonight. far be it for me to tout anything politico does, not a fan. this piece seemed likeor something hard to ignore and yet it's being ignored. why is that. >> usually in these cases

it's looked as when a story isn't reported it comes from right wing outlet and therefore we're going to dismiss it. as you said, politico is not exactly a bassian of conservative sentiment. so that's out. then we look at this ast' being 14,000 word piece that this reporter, josh myer, worked on for months. and obama administration w officials the ones pushing back on this now loyal lists were all asked to comment on the story and they wouldn't before publication. they pushed back on it afterwards. they can't cite facts wrong with it but just the overall thrust. certainly that's one thing. if we played a game of pu. parallel universe an appropriate acronym and you took out president obama and hezbollah and you inserted president trump and russia, how much coverage do you think this would get? i'm guessing you would need 30 hours in your broadcast day just to cover. this but, instead, abc, cbs, nbc, the nightly newscast and that's the best gauge to i

use in these situations in terms of coverage did not cover this story. it demands to be covered since both sides are disputing it there is certainly a lot here based on meticulous this worth was. he had not the unnamed sources with the political sources and indiana and hearsay will. he had named sours on the everyday row. documents on the record things we did not see when the brian reports ordered to"o michael twin to talk to the russians. that was based on one flimsy source.o no checks and balances and rushed to the air. >> tucker: do you think part of it has to do with the fact this was also a drugo story and people dying of drug odes and drug addiction in this country more than 60,000 of them last year are mostly in the middle of the country. it's not happening in the neighborhoods that media people live. in that sorry story is -- i mean, it's actually lowered life expectancy for middle america.

how often is that even covered? >> middle america, new hampshire, new jersey where i live. the opioid crisis, the drug crisis that's happening in america in this country is vastly under reported as well: again it ain't sexy. it's not sexy. just like the economy isn't sexy. just like the isis caliphate being destroyed isn't sexy. just like all these things, tax reform isn't sexy. instead, we concentrate on russia. there are three investigations going on. i'm not saying don't cover it i'm not saying there isn't a story there.oi we are overwhelmed in one direction and we're missing the important stuff. >> tucker: yeah that americans are dying. that seems like a big deal to me. thank you. >> merry christmas. >> tucker: democrats claim y to be a the party of a down trodden working class. priority inner creasingly seems to be misplacing with immigrant. ask the former democratic governor what is the party's future. that's next.

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laws. martin o'malley was the democratic governor of maryland. he recently stopped a pac to d help down ballot democrats. he will be one of the people charting the future of the democratic party. he joining us tonight to tell us what it is. governor, great to see you. >> thank you, tucker. good to be with you. thanks for having me. merry christmas. >> tucker: merry christmas. it seems to me that the election of trump opens up a bunch of questions for democrats, obvious one who is who are we going to be? reclaim our place as the party of the middle class or not. i think they could probably do pretty well if they did that. but that's not obvious from the priorities. i would would the democrat party put amnesty for daca recipients at the very top of the police of things to get done at the end of the year. >> look, i think the core of the democratic party remains that commitment to that timeless american ideal of opportunity for all. t and were we not a country of immigrants we would not be the country of creativity, innovation, diversity, which makes us such a strong country.

so, look -- the democraticma party believes in the dignity of every person and dignity of work. and contrary to some false assertions, there is not a lot of mass immigration going on. i mean, last year, net immigration for mexico was zero. meaning that as many people left.an >> tucker: no, no. there has been mass immigration for 52 years and has completely changed the demographic mix of the country and population of the country. we have more than a million coming legally. >> there has always been immigration. >> tucker: not at these levels. we have never had levelsth this high in american history. that's a facts. i'm not arguing against immigration. i'm just. >> 1970s and 180s when my grandparents came here. >> tucker: we have a higher proportion now. here's the point. if you are worried about wages which are stagnant and that seems like obvious issue for democrats and something to be upset about.ch importing a million low wage workers every year does not make wages go up. it's a math question it

doesn't work. why would they be for that? >> yeah, here is the rub though, tucker. it's -- you have people in our country already. t and these dream act kids, kids covered by daca. they were brought here at a time when they are not evenid of an age of reason where when they could say they wanted to come or didn't want to come. the only place come is then united states. what's a real drag on wages is when you force people to o live in the shadows of a society, to work off the books.ha to be exploited because they cannot go to enforce contracts and they cannot and they are susceptible to being taken advantage of. these are the things that hold down wages. when workers full light open society that's better for all of us. >> tucker: bringing amnesty to people. bringing more immigrants in from countries where the wage is a third of what it is here. why hasn't that happened yet if that works?he >> what i'm saying is this. that these kids are alreadyas

here. they have been here for years and years. the only country they know is the united states. >> tucker: i get it, look,k, it's a tough situation for them. of all the issues, i don't know, how about entitlement cuts or the opioid crisis or things that actually affect middle class america. why is the one issue they are not going to move on though, shut the government down over it, 700,000 people here illegally. it just seems like metal class is not their priority. you see what i'm saying. >> i see what you are saying.u but i think you ascribe to the democratic party, you know, myopic world view. these kids are important. the fact that 120 of them are falling out of status every day is also important. but, most -- we also, the democratic party was fighting against this 1.3 trillion-dollar tax cut that primarily benefits the wealthy that isn't needed. that isn't fiscally responsible that does nothing to make wages go up.

democratic party iso advocating in states and cities across america for raising the minimum wage, for paying a living wage. look, we're also advocating for more affordable college, more affordable healthcare. so, yes, part of that is that we care about these kids. these kids whose only country is the united states of america. >> tucker: i know the party cares about the kids. governor, thank you. >> thank you. and merry christmas. remember, jesus was himself a refugee child. what do you if he came to your border? >> tucker: that's so stupid it's hard to respond. thank you though.. meat is tasty but should we give it up in order to tear down the toxic male patriotic whatever that is our next guest says yes go vegetarian. she joins us after the break.

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>> tucker: eating meat is pretty tasty.

not surprised most people do it you probably do. are they making a mistake leaving half the human race enslaved by pate i can. professor of university. sitting next to me on the set interesting pete's journal of feminist geography. eating meat entrenches hegemonic masculinity and that for women going vegetarian pushes backhe against the patriotic and may eliminate the gender binary itself. the professor joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. thank you. so you wrote this in the journal of feminist geography. my issue did not come so i haven't seen it. >> i can send you a copy. >> tucker: i can't wait. you say that vegetarianism helps women push back against the patriotic and makes men more respectful. how does that work. >> that's not a direct quote but very well summarized. you must have good people

working for you. >> tucker: for sure. how do you connect eating meat carnivore behavior. >> have you ever heard of octavia butler? do you like science fiction? >> i have a book called octavia butler lilus broad. >> tucker: that's like a distaupian feminist novel. >> no, no. you got to read it. it's it's it's about carnivores? >> you got to read it to find out. >> tucker: how do you think being a vegetarian helps defeat the patriarchy. >> are you going to read it. >> tucker: of course. thank you. >> this is the one i'm reading and for another partial response check out this one. >> tucker: good. so we have sold a couple feminist books here on the book club. >> they are not just feminist.

>> tucker: let's get to the number of it. i eat meat how am i perpetuating the patriarchy by doing so. >> several ways. we take up a little bit too much space. and eating meat is a diet that requires more space on the planet. okay? it requires more resources to produce meat than it does to produce plant based food. >> tucker: i understanding that i know the environmental argument against eating meat.ke you seem to suggest in your piece that there is something about meat specifically that makes men dangerously masculine and that men who refrain from meat become easier to deal with or as you put it more. >> my piece. you said you didn't read it yet. >> tucker: i have the summary right here. >> you didn't read my words. >> tucker: i think they havet quotation marks around it? >> okay. >> tucker: do you believe

meeting meat makes men more masculine. >> why are you -- i guess i'm concerned why you are worried about men becoming less masculine. >> tucker: are you really a professor because i feel like it might be performance art. >> no, no. i'm a professor. i believe when you come together, two individuals come together you co-produce knowledge. you were saying before you didn't finish college? >> tucker: you co-produce knowledge.e >> yes. >> tucker: you tell me this. if i stopped eating meat, how why be better? >> i don't think it's about better or worse. right? i think it's a question of how much space are we as individuals taking up? how much space are we taking up how much we consume. the tea we drink. really like tea. i have a package for you i will give it to you later. our body and what we put in our households. how much space we take um. >> tucker: you promise you are a real professor. >> yeah. what does it mean to be a real professor? >> tucker: too deep.

i will ask you one last final question which is i'm getting the sense from what t i have read, whether or not you wrote it is another question but i think that you did, that when men stop eating meat they change in ways that you think are good? is that true? >> i think it's helpful that all people consider how much meat they choose to put in their bodies. i'm not here to mandate anything, right? we all make our individual level choices. our individual choice is incredibly important, right? adam smith. right? we were just talking about it in the green room. >> tucker: i come away with two strong impressions from this interview. one, i like you more. >> really. >> tucker: but i know much less. >> what does that mean? >> tucker: i don't know. >> will have you me back to discuss the book? >> tucker: we can talk about it professor, thank you for joining us. >> all right. thank you so much. >> tucker: we can't get enough of those racist trees. we will try to determine how

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>> as if we don't have enough problems in this country the specter of racist trees haunts america like a demon ever since local officials in palm springs in california in thehe identified a group of trees at a local golf course as being racist. we have been seeing those kind of trees everywhere. is it coincidence that a pine tree resembles a klansmanhood what was the weeping willow weep for if not the end of jim crow are not other trees complicit in this radio host joins us. larry, what's going out there in palm springs if you

could sum it up for us? >> i think it's climate change. it's hard to say, tucker. this is california. this is where the governor just signed hike up the wages to $15 an hour after admitting that minimum wage measures don't make much economic sense closed quotes. go figure. it's about making black people feel better about the past about jim crow and slavery as if that's the issue facing black america. a news bulletin for 30 or 40 years blacks score higher onon self-esteem. the suicide rates for whites is higher than for blacks. the issue is not whether blacks feel good or bad about themselves. what do we do about that part of black america not doing well. the number one problem facing white america is not nothing to do with white racism or racist trees. black kids are raced withoutg fathers. i didn't say it obama said it a kid raised without a dad is five times more

likely to be poor. nine times more likely to drop out of school, 20 times more likely to end up in jail. what's making so many women marry the government and men abandon moral responsibility. that ought to be the conversation but it isn't. >> tucker: it never is you are scolded for bringing it up. enormously sad. i find it so interesting growing up in california around liberals there was really no greater sin than cutting down a tree. cutting down a tree was immoral. they were call tree huggers, literally. >> these are racist trees though of course. and tucker, in california, you have a governor that does not support vouchers. even though the majority of urban parents, black and brown want vouchers. the democratic party is opposed to voucher, yet 95% of black people pull the lever for people education for thinks kids. go figure. >> tucker: look, here is what i want. it's not for everyone to agree with me at least to

have a conversation about things that actually matter rather than frivolous things. one of the reasons we have highlight the racest tree story is because it so self-evidently stupid maybe it will awaken people to the frivolous nature of the conversation. why aren't we havingke conversations about test scores and marriage and drugug use, not just in the black community but this every community in america. >> absolutely.hi i reminded don lemming when i was last on cnn maybe that's why i was last on in 1997 "time" magazine and cnnt did a poll of black teens and white teens and asked them both whether or not racism was a major problem in america and not toond surprisingly black teens and white teens said yes. they asked black teens is racism is major, minor problem in your lives. >> almost 90% of black teens said no problem or minor problem in my own daily life. more white teens than black teens said failure to take advantage of opportunities was a bigger problem than racism. what are we talking about? racist trees? take a wand and wave it over america and remove every

smidgen of racism from the hearts of america. still have the problem of young people having children they can't take care of. men abandoning responsibility. government schools that don't work. bad policies like minimum wage destroy jobs. porous borders you have illegal workers unskilled challenging workers in theroga inner city and on and on and on. those facing america. let's have a conversationn about them. >> tucker: you are absolutely right. no one says it better than do you. larry, thank you. great to see you. merry christmas. >> tucker: senator elizabeth warren has been mocked for contributing family recipesr: to american indian cookbook. how does her powwow chow actually taste? we investigate it coming up.

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>> tucker: senator elizabeth warren isn't actually an american indian obviously that didn't slow her down from submitting recipes to an native american cook peculiar powwow chow for real. several recipes plagiarized too. why get hung up on that. how do indian recipes stack

up as food? we got a copy the book and decided to investigate with professional chef and cookbook author mark bailey. mark bailey, thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: there has been a lot of controversy around elizabeth warren's native american heritage as you know. >> um-huh. >> tucker: a lot of people weighed in on it we thought we would weigh in on it empirically reverse engineer one the recipes she donated to a book pow cow chow. native americans contributed recipes from her tribe. we here asking how. c how this dish is made. her tribe of course the cherokee traditional dish from that. >> cold omelet with crab meat.on i never heard of this. i'm very excited. it's a cold omelet. >> tucker: i say with crab meat. >> actually used as a dressing which is interesting. the omelet is flat as a pancake which is normally omelets have a little bit more girth to it.

this is flat as a pancake. her particular recipe added some tomatoes, taragon andan cream to the egg mixture. >> tucker: i don't want to begin on skeptical note. crab meat you don't think as the cherokee as a sea faring tribe. >> that's interesting little twist. >> tucker: little twist. we will remain open-minded. how is this done? >> you know what? again, we did a flat omelet. we added tomatoes taragonn, parsley as well as cream to the egg mixture. on the bottom of the pan really lightly. flip it one time and then you make a crab dressing, almost like a mayonnaise dressing. >> you basically use lump crab. have you oil, you basically making the mayonnaise from scratch. egg, mustard, everything in there as well. then you basically create this dressing which is so interesting. you just pop it right on top of the omelet cold. >> tucker: do you think this is -- i know you are not a cultural anthropologist is this something within the reach of a hunter gatheringw

tribe in the sauce pans, the whole lump crab, the mayonnaise? >> i don't know if it was inspired by certain things. i'm not sure obviously if you think about native americans in terms of what they would be cooking with and eating with. >> tucker: this is not what comes to mind. as a professional chef and i don't want to you weigh in because you are a professional and we don't want to sully that. but when you were cooking this. what culture came first to mind? traditional native american culture, the culture of elizabeth warren or another. >> with the crab meat and the fact it's cold it gave me european initially when i was making it and then me being a breakfast guru, the omelet just rings american to meal. all personal breakfast food. >> tucker: key taste it. >> sure. definitely. >> i want to know, this is not a d.n.a. test. 23 and me. not getting to the truth of this necessarily. >> cold omelet which is again very interesting. >> tucker: i'm about to tell you i can eat this. >> everything good to go,

definitely. you let me know. i don't dabble too much with native american cooking. but i wouldn't, this is not what would come to mind immediately. again, i'm not an expert. but it's good. this is traditional cherokee food. i could see why she would pretend to be a member of this. she contributed to powwow chow. you got a book not native american. >> no, it's breakfast in bed. cooking in boxers. fully dressed today because it's cook. 50 ways to keep your mate in bed. >> tucker: someone asked to you contribute to powwow chow like ii edition would you do that. >> sure do a little research. >> tucker: probably keep the crab out. it has been alleged plagiarized recipe from a french chef. >> sometimes recipe faced with a recipe and put your own twist want to be inspired. >> tucker: you are right. turns out cultural identityy is like that, too. great to see you.

>> thank you so much. >> tucker: that's our christmas gift to you, america. merry christmas. edition of "hannity." president trump closing out the year with a major legislative victory by officially signing the $1.5 trillion gop tax cut into law. take a look. >> we're going to wait until january 7th or 8th and do a formal ceremony. but every one of the networks was saying will he keep his promise and sign it before christmas? and so i immediately called and said let's get it ready. this is something that republicans wanted for years and