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to all of you cover the staff, cameramen, all of you in the room and the producers, you make it happen. we don't do this alone. thank you, have a happy new year. jason chaffetz filling in life for laura ingraham. you. i am jason in for laura ingraham and this is "the ingraham angle." the news never takes a break. we have a packed show. my former colleagues will join us to discuss an intriguing new development with the russian dossier and an ultimatum delivered to the justice department by the house intelligence committee. it was california governor jerry brown and new new york governor pardoning immigrants. how far will they go to undermine president trump's immigration policies? "vanity fair" is begging for
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forgiveness for those so-called open minds on the left after dareing to make fun of hillary clinton. we begin with a big development just broke by fox news chief white house correspondent john roberts. the house intelligence chair gave the justice department a dead of january 3rd to turn over documents on the russian investigation. robert obtained a copy of the letter from nunes to the department of justice blasting the department for numerous delays and said at this point it seems the department of justice and the fbi need to be investigating themselves." also breaking tonight. president trump in his interview with the "new york times" believes special robert mueller will treat him fairly in the russia probe. the president saying there was no collusion between his campaign and the russians. joining me for reaction is
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representative trey gaudy. he is on the intelligence committee and the ethices committee and rumor has it he is the chairman of the 4-h club there at capitol hill. he joins us from south carolina. from dallas congressman john ratcliff. he is a former united states proscurious. -- prosecutor. happy holidays and happy new year. thanks for joining us. congressman, i want to start with you. i have been in your seat. i dealt with the department of justice when they are not responsive. how bad is the situation? what are the documents you need in order to get the job done that you want to get done? >> well, happy new year, jason. investigations are only as good
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as your access to documents and witnesses. in this case we need 302s. when the fbi interviews someone a 302, that's the name of the form generated. we need 1023s. another summary of an interaction between an fbi agent and a source. we need all of that. so we can prepare to interview whether it's a former council baker or peter strzok or lisa page. we need access toula of the documents. -- to all of the documents. we have waited a long time for. it i used to work for the department of justice. if i have a bias it's towards them. this is taking longer than it should and needs to. >> congressman, have you been a united states prosecutor.
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to use a famous line: what difference does it make. you are on the judiciary committee. you were the two that got to interview mr mccabe, how did that go. >> the reason we the department director mccabe in the room related to the prior testimony of former direct james comey. you and chairman gowedy and myself were all in the room when he testified that the discussion
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to not prosecute hillary clinton had been made after her july 2nd interview with the fbi. then we learned of a may 2nd me memo written by comey with that decision was made 2 months before. those times of decision out of the ordinary in the fbi prompted the need for an investigation into these matters. what the investigation that you just reference involving the judiciary committee is to get answers to the questions american people have long south. >> who do you need to interview next? who will you bring in to do those transscribed interviews? >> with the interview that took place 2 weeks ago, it was a
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confidential interview. i would describe it as foundation interview with asked questions about who, what, where with respect to the decisions made at the fbi and the justice department that were out of the ordinary or standard protocol. he was able to provide us with a number of answers that will help us identify the people we need to talk to. he was not able to provide answers to other questions. we will continue this process. i think the chairman man and i agree that we would like to see former director comey come and maybe attorney general lynch come in to answer questions. there is a factual basis to bring them in and give them the opportunity to clear up inconsistencies between the testimony they previously gave to congress and the documents that have now surfaced. >> congressman, what happened
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with the department of justice and the fbi is so many abnormalities. things that would never happen in any other situation. you have both been prosecutors. what is different about the investigation that went into hillary clinton and the decision and the announcement? what is that laundry list of things that is so different than what normally happens during these investigations? >> well, jason, let's say the difficult facts make for difficult conclusions. 2016 was a really difficult year for the fbi. part was because of decisions they made and part was because of they are trying to conduct an investigation into the throes of a presidential race. what was different about the investigation into secretary clinton? almost everything. i don't want to litigate their decision not to charge her. you can like it or not like it. no entity is too big to provide oversight over. the fbi and the department of
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justice can withstand scrutiny. if you made the decision not to charge someone in may of 2016 before you have interviewed 2 dozen witnesses and the target of the investigation, then you have to explain how you reached that decision not to charge before you ended the investigation. i want to know about the immunity agreements and why you allowed fact witnesses to sit in on witness interviews. i want to know why you wanted witness interviews to be voluntary. you use the grand jury to interview witnesses. you don't let the witness set the ground rules and say i will have these family and friends in the room. that's not the way it's done for anyone else in the country. i want to ask the fbi: did you do things different in your investigation? we already the answer is yes. why did you do it differently in
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her case? the bureau and the department of justice are big enough to withstand those questions. >> the integrity at the justice department and the fbi is under attack. what needs to happen to get the confidence of the american people back? >> i think part of the problem we have been looking at here and the people that created the issues as the chairman said it's been a bad 18 months from the department of justice and the fib. -- fbi. some of these people are gone. we have to conduct the oversight necessary to see whether or not they are effective in restoring the indtegrity of the departmen of justice. we hope the fbi and doj officials like former director comey and attorney general lynch, we hope they have
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plausible explanations for all of these unprecedented circumstances that chairman just described. we hope they do. if they don't, we are facing a consitutional crisis. we have a situation where the american people really question the integrity of the fbi and the department of justice for decades to come. i hope that these investigations that we are conducting in our role can shed light on. that we are not prosecutors anymore. i am not accusing anyone of crimes. we have an oversight for the american people as their elected representatives. that's what all of these investigations are about. >> this country is different because we are self-critical and look under the hood and see what is going on. my guests will stick around. so should you. after the break we will look into the future and discuss whether the tax cuts is just the
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we joined by our guests to discuss the gop agenda in 2018 and whether the trump agenda can overcome the democrat's resistance. newt gingrich said the great surprise in 2018 will be the size of the republican victory. on the other hand, a gop congressman is not seeking reelection and not optimistic. >> we for a challenging mid-term
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environment. you typically lose about 32 seats in a mid-term. my colleagues are well aware of the historical challengeses and donald trump complicates that because he is a pollarizing figures. i expect our challenges will be even greater because of that. >> gentleman, the speaker of the house plays an important role. paul ryan as the speaker of the house. i am not aware of any speaker thats that gone unscathed. congressman gowdy, how is he doing? what is your perspect identify the speaker? >> there are a lotted governor members of congress.
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i bet johnny would agree when i say there is no one better qualified to be the speaker of the house than paul ryan. he has ever quality you want in a leader. he is smart and principled and inclusive. he is reluctant. he didn't want to be the speaker of the house. he wanted to be the chair person of ways and means. when mccarthy dropped out of the speaker's race we had no one to turn to. we said will you lead us? he reluctantly did so. he is the smartest kid in the class. he would be my number 1 draft choice if i started this government all over again. he did us a favor by taking the job. i can't think of anybody that could do the job as well as he is doing it right now. >> congressman, you are the subcommittee chairman on cyber security. you look at the 90 billion
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dollars a year our government spends on cyber security. it's a dangerous thing in this country. what keeps you up at night looking at cyber security and the challenges facing the united states? >> well, jason, you and trey heard he say this before. i consider cyber security to be the greatest threat to our national security. listen, i think we are in a far greater danger for invasion of our digital borders than any invasion of our physical borders. people just need to turn on the computers or open the papers and see another hack that increased in severity. the united states will only remain the world's super power if we are always the world's cyber super power. as much as we are spending in this field right now, it's not enough. it's the great equalizer.
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cyberspace is. it's how north korea can compete with us in cyberspace. we have to dedicate our efforts. this is an area i enjoy legislateing in. we have to do that in a smart way to raise the cyber iq of every american so we are safer and maintain the world status as the cyber super power. >> a lot of issues facing the united states. if you listen to the mainstream media the difficult nature of coming up with bipartisan solutions. trey gowdy you have been writing a book with the senator from south carolina. tell me about the book and your perspective on the atmosphere in washington, d.c. >> well, jason, tim scott is the best person in all of politics. the two guys i am with but tim
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scott is the best person in politics. as you two know, we are inseparable. we did not know each other in 2010 when we came in as freshman. he had different back grounds and life experiences. we have chose tone have a friendship some would call unlikely. we are more entered in the conciliation than the conflict. we want to share the story of our relationship and encourage our fellow citizens. i think there is a hungry for concilization for unity. contrast is fine. i am glad we don't all pull for the cowboys or watch the same movie at the same time. what i hear everywhere i go is a divisiveness. we are the united states of america. i would love for us to spend time celebrating what we have in
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common as what we do harping on the differences. tim, our hair is different. >> our hair is different on a daily basis. >> if you put up a picture of tim scott, we have differences. but we made a conscious effort to celebrate the things we have in common. jason, i am telling you, you serve there whether it's joe kennedy or morton or peter west. oo welch. those are all democrats. some viewers don't want to hear it but 99.9% of us get along well in personal interaction. we have a hyperfocus on conflict in the country. the fact we get along doesn't make the news.
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what makes the news if there is one member on either side yelling at each other. i am entered in unity and that's what tim and i want to write about. >> an honor and privilege to serve you with in the united states congress. partying words? a good movie or new year's resolution? >> well, chairman gowdy is always telling me to ask better questions of witnesses at hearings. since he is older and wiser, i will take that advice to heart. >> do you have any words of wisdom or good movie or show that provides inspiration? >> i wish you a happy new year and johnny, you and mitchell a happy new year. jason a privilege to serve with
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you. johnny, you are my favorite member of the house. holiday movies. one that i found inspirational is narcos. >> i thought he was going to say bad sant. >> [laughing] >> my wife won't let me watch that. >> thank you very much. one big battle next years sure to be fought in immigration. both of you will be there. a pair of democratic governor's are not waiting. that's next. my name is jeff sheldon,
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flouting immigration law and aa antagonizing president trump. jerry brown pardoned two on saturday and the new york governor is pardoning 18 immigrants convicted of crimes. joining me to debate this are a democratic strat edgest and a institution law professor. thanks for joining us. jose, help me understand the rationale. we are talking about people with a crimmial element. involved in games and committing crimes. why are people bending over backwards to make sure they are staying here? instead of saying i understand the fight for dreamers and others, but the criminal
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element, isn't that something republicans and democrats can agree those people should not be in the united states. >> one thing to take a close look at. if you an undocumented immigrant who committed a high level crime, we want you out of this county. -- country. these 18 people, low level offenses. committed crimes over 10 years ago. they reinstated themselves into society. >> they committed crimes! what i don't understand. we are not talking about i accidentally jay walked or going 45 in a 35. these are crimes against other people in which they were convisibilitied. >> the symbol of the united states has always been the statue of liberty. the border wall that the current
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president wants, if we want to fix this, we need to pass immigration reform. that include a path to citizenship for millions of immigrant that just want a better way of life. >> what the other side that says no. >> that's right. these folks were already on the path to citizenship and they blew it. they committed crimes. there is a list of crimes if you commit, it makes you deportable. like human trafficking and drugs and sexual assault and battery. a number of these crimes even if you get the pardon you are still deportable. that's the most interesting part of this story that has gone unremarked. the focuses that governor brown and cuomo pardoned none of them
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are eligible to be removed from the deportation. >> you can get a pardon from a governor but that doesn't excuse if you from federal deportation? >> it does on a couple of crimes. the federal statute sets out a couple of crimes where the pardon blocks the deportation. from the information i gathered. the individuals governor brown and cuomo pardoned don't fit those crimes. these folks are still eligible for deportation which means these two governor's are just
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showboating rather than paying attention to what the law is. >> if we want to fix this, we need comprehensive immigration reform. that's what americans want. >> there are people that won't vote in favor of amnesty. i could not agree to that. what is the argument? we are talking about the criminal element. people involved if gangs. was in a gun crime. >> many years ago. over a decade ago. >> so what? >> they are convicted. >> if you want to talk about amnesty. what we have right now in this country is amnesty and doing nothing about it. we need to do something about. >> but what is the argument that
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says if you -- i don't care if it was 10 years ago ago or 10 minutes ago. if you are here and you are on a pathway to citizenship and you commit a crime, why are we not just booting you out? i think responsible communities would support that notion. >> we are a compassionate country. the symbol of the country is the statue of american. these are people who helped out after 9-11 and volunteered. >> i got the hey, they are good people. but people convicted of a crime. the judge made a ruling. professor, the last word. what will happen in this case under the law? >> i think they will get these matters in before a couple of courts that might well say the pardon interferes with the
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deportation proceedings. i think they would be overturned by the supreme court. the statute is very clear here. certain crimes you are departed whether you are pardoned or not. statute could not be more clear. the ninth circuit one of the most liberal courts in the country upheld that statute. in the administration proseeds with these deportations that will be upheld. >> thank you and happy new year. thanks for joining us. more trouble is brewing for president trump overseas. he is not happy with the president of china even though he says they are great friends. that's next. later, the uncivil war that broke out after the left, a "vanity fair" magazine dares to make fun of hillary clinton. hear what president trump said about it. up next.
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>> president trump is steamed with china following a report it was secretly selling oil to north korea in violation of united nations sanctions. a south korea paper published u.s. spy photos showing chinese ships delivering to north korea ships. president trump tweeted today: caught red handed. tonight in an interview with the "new york times," the president said he has been soft on china over trade in hopes that its government will pressure north korea to abandon its nuclear weapons program. let's discuss this with the fox news national security analyst in orlando, florida and from san francisco californian attorney. thanks for joining us.
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you have been outspoken on a number of foreign policy issues. ari, let me start with you. the president had a good year on foreign policy for a rookie, don't you think. >> did he? i think not. the president has had a number of major fiascos. first let me say this. our allies are worried about us and our enemies -- >> which ally is worried about us? >> germany, the united kingdom. the president would not shake her hand at the white house. we have a debate whether the president is invited to the royal wedding for prince harry. >> [overlapping talking] >> hold on. >> [overlapping talking] >> let me finish the point.
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jason. my concern is america is no longered send under donald trump. -- longer accepted under donald trump. >> i disagree with. let's talk about china and north korea. it's a difficult proposition. we have five satellite photos showing that north korea and china are trading fuel on a ship. let's go to dr. ferris, what do you make of this and the president's approach relating to north korea? >> well, we have the daily approach. that generates debates and the pictures of photos. then you have the strategic approach. the novelty of the trump administration is the eastern asian alliance is back and running.
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japan and other players. that's sending strong signals to china and the deployment of task forces which generated a unanimous vote. on the other hand the chinese are not convinced that they have to move 100%. if that regime collapses in north korea, who replaces them? 100 pro-chinese or south korea south korea? more diplomat work with china. on the ground in the east asian alliance, there is clear there is pressure coming from that side. >> there was a strong vote in the united nation. nikki haley did a good job to bring people along. given the spy satellite photos and the situation we are in
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today, what do you think the president should do in this case? >> jason, if you don't cut me up or interrupt me for 30 seconds, i promise not to wipe the floor with anybody. give me 30 seconds. >> we have 10. >> we have a unanimous vote in t the u.n. security council. let tillerson do his job. the president can't wake up every morning and tweet nonsense after planning his golf game and vacations and ignore intelligence reports. >> what do you specifically thing he should be doing given this current satellite photos you? are looking at them like we are today. what should the president be doing at this point? >> the president first and
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foremost. the president should not have endeered the chinese sharing cake with them in mar a lago. the chinese have more leverage on the north korea than anybody in the world. 3rd, he should ignore the calls from the russian foreign leaders. the bottom line is -- jason. >> [overlapping talking]. >> sorry. >> you are the chairman of the oversight committee. >> yes. >> you have to allocate time fairly. >> [overlapping talking] >> good luck. run it. >> doctor, tell me what you think the president should be doing in this case? >> well, he is doing it. he can't rely on one evening
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news report about what the chinese are doing. he is talking to them as well. what do you think the chinese or north korea are looking at? his tweets in the morning? no, they are looking at the movement of task forces and the joint exercises between japan and south korea and the growth of the international coalitions that want to isolate north korea. china today is not the china of the '50s. they have financial interests around the world. it's not just what is happening between china and the united states but internationally. >> they play trump for a fool. >> overly overweight -- [overlapping talking]. >> i have to leave it there. >> they play trump for a fool. >> i will try to wish you a
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>> welcome back to "the ingraham angle." i am jason in for laura ingraham. we heard a lot about special prosecutors and independent counsels. we don't hear about inspector's general who play a huge and crittal important role in the oversight of your government. there are 72 and they have an enormous of 13,500employees. joining me is inspector general. i want to thank you.
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the community as a whole. people think we need a special prosecutor for the fbi and the departments. they are auditors. what can they look at and not look at and what do we expect the people to do on a daily basis? >> our job is oversight of the programs and operations of the agency. we conduct audits, inspections, reviews and criminal investigation. we are looking for fraud, waste, abuse and inefficiency. we use our powers to get the information from the agency. >> they have to respond to you. we need those documents? do they have to give them to us? >> yes and they do. >> once they leave and depart,
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you don't have the ability to go get that information. >> we can still subpoena them for documents. we subpoena a former employee to talk to us. >> just to give viewers at home, you go to the website. it you go@ oversight.gov. that's the twitter handle. you should 111 reports and 1144 recommendations and a 4.2-billion dollars impact. looking at the va. we all care about veterans who served this nation. it seems like a disaster and a mess. where is it today? >> we are working hard to fix whatever issues we find. we have a hot line that gets
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40,000 contacts a year. we hear from veterans and whistle blowers. >> what is not working well at the va today? bills have been passed. president trump made it a priority. today as the inspector general what is your biggest concern at the va? >> just making sure the promise work and the money is spent as appropriated. we made a number of recommendations. we are always finding other things. we look hard and we have a proud staff that works every day to help make the programs and operations better for veterans. >> we talk about wanting to root out the waste, fraud and abuse. how big of that? >> it's extremely large. >> hundreds of dollars, tennessee of billion dollars?
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>> in the billion dollars of dollars. our economic impact was over $6 billion. >> what do you want people to know about the inspectors general. do you need a special prosecutor if you have an inspector general doing their job? >> one of the different features about the inspector general is our independence. we don't report to anybody. we don't report to the head of the agency. we don't report to congress. this allows us to do your job the best way possible. it aa -- allows us to get things right. >> i allowed on the inspector general across the government. our worry is they find good information and doesn't get
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>> liberals are much more open minded and bigger supporters of free speech than conservatives. we know that because they never stop telling us that. they have trouble walking the walk when it comes to making fun of one of their own sacred count. the left leaning "vanity fair" posted this skit with advice for hillary clinton. >> time to work on your sequel to your book. what the hell happened? >> disable auto fill on your iphone. >> anderson cooper, you should try teaching a class. >> take more photos. how else will you meet people? >> pick up a new hobby. anything that will keep you from
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running again. >> president trump joined in the fun. tweet tweeted: to break this down. brian in massachusetts. the publisher of media equalizer.com. what did you think of that. is this a double standard here? >> where do i start? i am chomping at the bit. i am amazed the video was made in the first place. they should have realized that the left would have no sense of humor about and take to social media in a mob-like fashion and denounce it and get the publication to apologize and take the video down. then as you see on youtube and
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other places, it was uploaded and there are 1,000 different places to watch. taking it down didn't do them any good. >> i think it makes more eyeballs want to go see it. i seem to remember, sarah sanders and i didn't see the outrage from the left when a woman was under attack when the woman was behind the podium for donald trump. did you? >> of course not. that's what makes this so funny. why are we so wedded to the clintons? i don't understand that about the left. why do they still need the clintons and what would hillary clinton have a role to play in the 2018 congressional elections? she will have a major role next year? really, why?
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do you want to lose another election. this doesn't make sense. >> you talk to a lot of young people. the 25-year-old crowd who sees this. they think it's fun and move on. or do they see the outrage from the left and think, come on, what is that? ? >> well, it makes them want to watch it. no question about that. the way the publication reacted cements that. i think the reaction would have been otherwise. it's not particularly funny. maybe a light chuckle watching it. the people who are in, they don't seem like right winter games. -- wingers. the main criticism is knitting is sexist. but the woman comes across as a left winger. they are saying let's move on from last year's election to focus on the next.
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they exposed the fact that the left can't heal and maybe they won't win the next election if that's the case. >> those who preach the most tolerance are oftentimes the least tolerant. when i watched that and saw the reaction from the left, i thought my goodness. welcome to reality here. taking a breath and looking back, what do you think "vanity fair" should have done? taken it down or kept it up? >> i think they should have shown some backbone and should not have apologized for a mild critique. this exposes their silliness and this is what we are fighting against at the media quality program. we have a group on facebook with stop the scalpings.
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we will be much better off here. >> yes, i have to wrap it up. happy new year to you. i thank everybody here tonight. i am jason in for laura ingraham. i think her and welcome up ed. >> happy new year. >> breaking news on something big developing over the last 24 hours. >> you saw the report here last night. chinese tankers selling oil. >> beijing caught red handed defying sanctions against north korea. tonight the president responded with a tough tweet. echoes earlier rhetorical fireworks. >> they will be met with fire and fury. >> is the u.s. headed into a new year's military showdown to possible regime change. then, when you add
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