martha maccallum" and tomorrow i am filling in on bulls and bears. on sunday in for maria on sunday morning futures. "the five" is next. happy new year. >> ♪ >> ♪ >> well, hello. i am kennedy with mari. and brian and tom. 5 o'clock here on the north pole. i mean new york city and this is "the five." >> ♪ >> ♪ >> this doesn't happen every day. president trump did a rare interview with the mainstream media. he apparently felt in the holiday spirit to talk to the failing "new york times" while down in florida opening up on the russia investigation and more. he maintains the allegations

about his campaign working with moscow are a democratic hoax. saying i think it's been proven. the president also said that america is worse off because of this probe saying: mr. trump expressed optimism. it will turnout okay. here's hetake on robert mueller. he said: let's take it out to the other 4. brian i will start with you. >> thank you. >> doing my best.

i don't know if you have anything interesting to say. >> if you watched yesterday, hi nothing. kennedy on this in particular, it's fascinating that someone walks up to him in a grill restaurant and it was loud for the "new york times" and said can i do an interview and record it? why not? rare things are happening. his staff said really? he did an interview with the "new york times"? you know who is cheering ty cobb and his legal team. don't tweet. do nothing but positive things. you don't want to play into anything political about a probe that means so much. even if you think they have nothing, he is a powerful guy with an unlimited budget. already spent $7 million and is going through your bank records for 30 years, a lot it could be found there.

i think this is a great play for him. i think he should stay with that theme. regardless of what he thinks, stay with that theme. >> katie, he said he is well within his right to shutdown the probe as head of the executive branch. but he won't do that. he will let it go forward. because he's done nothing wrong. he thinks it can be fair. was that the right response? >> i think it's fair to say it makes the country look bad. the narrative that the 2016 election was impacted by the russia is not good for the united states and helps russia. that's something he is arguing. in terms of moving forward, he does have the authority to fire robert mueller but there were warnings from republicans on capitol hill he should not do that. >> [overlapping talking] >> it would make him look guilty. if this is nothing to hide, let

the end of the investigation exonerate you. and special counsel robert mueller might actually do that. we will see what the narrative is from the people defending the president if that happens. >> when i read this transcript of the interview with the "new york times," the thing that bothers the president about the implication there was russian collusion, democrats are saying russia won the president the election. that's what bothers him so much. he said i i was the better candidate and i had the better campaign. that's why he is pushing back so hard. >> yes. he said 15 times no collusion. >> i think like 60 times. >> he should. stick to that script. i think he will be fair. he said i think they will be fair. there was no collusion. he is doing programming as he always does. he is brilliant at that. it's great. this is where he does the best

free wheeling introduce. did you see the reaction online. it's insane.erviews. did you see the reaction online. it's insane. >> let's say president obama was on vacation in hawaii and the writer from the washington "times" said could i do a sit down interview, there was no way president obama, or president bush or clinton would sit down for a free wheeling exposee. >> as a former staffer, i started sweating. the staffer said, what interview? i think katie is right. if you have nothing to hide and you didn't do anything wrong, let it play out. for all of his allies who are

trying to discredit mueller what will they say if he exonerates the president? that will be anding. -- interesting. what makes america look weak is having a president who can't separate finding that russia meddles to his legitimacy of his presidency. russia meddles in a lost elections. i will make sure it doesn't happen again and confront them. >> he hasn't had one day without something hanging over his head. first jill stein. i know what happened. i want a recount in major states. then the russian probe and hillary clinton with the popular vote. for a guy who likes to fight everybody. that's part of his success and maybe his achilles heel.

if he is exonerated in march. then we come back, i am sure we will be talking about somebody who is rarely bringing up hillary clinton. he can't look forward as long as this probe is happening. >> he needs to be bigger than. >> i would argue that the president although he sees the russian narrative as a diluting of his victory, policy-wise the administration and the president accepted russia is a threat. look at the national security strategy last week. they pointed out that russia is doing that meddling in the united states and elections around the world. the other thing buried in this interview was his shot at jeff sessions. my question is: how long jeff sessions will be around. eric holder defended president obama over and over again.

>> if jeff sessions is asked to resign, he could have won the senate race as a popular write in. i was telling people just that. no one listens to me. he could have been a write in. >> they could have done something except for the way it turned out. >> what does success look like for robert mueller? we talk about exxoneration. i don't know that what looks like. based on the indictments and what we heard from the investigation, what is the successful ending of this? >> i will give you an example. obama doesn't care about his ratings, but when you go after paul man fort and said it has to do with trump and put him on

house arrest. rick gates also house arrest. tony podesta the same thing. he closes his shop up and goes to the bahamas. >> he goes to atlanta? >> i am pretty sure. >> yes. >> you have no idea when you will come out and whether you are headfirst or feed first. with podesta and manafort, he is doing a legitimate non-partisan probe. this is what we didn't do in august. this is the response of the government here. these are the facebook ads and the impact it might have had. these are the people that were going after it internationally. this is how to stop it in the long run. that's a successful probe. >> do you agree with that? >> i agree with that in part. but your bigger question is:

what does the end look like? we don't know when it will come. most legal experts believe that won't happen until president trump is interviewed by robert mueller. >> hillary clinton was interviewed just a couple of days before james comey came out and assassinated her character and closed the case. >> exactly. key people at the white house have not been interviewed yet. rob mueller is going through with facebook and the digital operations and all of these different issues and checking them off. it will be months before this closes. >> [overlapping talking]. >> it is already endless. >> we could be looking at years and years. >> there is no good out comefor robert mueller. >> does anthony weiner get out of prison first. if he does anything short of

bringing down the president, bob mueller will be the most unpopular people with marie's friends. if he comes up short, he is in froubl. >> saying he should be trusted and could not be fired. >> they said that about james comey and they were outraged when he was fired after everyone called for his firing. what does success look like? i don't think that can be answered. the goal is to follow the facts where they lead. considering the facts, at the beginning of the investigation the special counsel was called. success looks like going down rabbit holes. >> yes. >> that was not the intention or

goal of the original investigation. >> i am wondering is robert mueller going to bring down the president? >> hopefully not. >> i don't think so. >> you put michael flynn in a perjury trap so he returns. >> he put himself in the perjury trap. >> he didn't know what the government knew. >> [overlapping talking] >> they were spying on him? >> i think robert mueller is well rapid. -- respected. >> he went to hillary clinton's victory party. >> [laughing] >> we will work on that investigation. >> [overlapping talking] >> i can't wait for 2018. >> it's closer than you know. we will talk about that later in the show. stay right here.

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>> well, president trump has been active on twitter today. what is on his mind this friday? immigration. he is warning democrats in order to get a deal to protect the dreamers, they must okay the cash for his border wall. quote: brian, you are getting the first answer in all of the blocks today. >> nothing that he tweeted is surprising. i am curious what the democrats will bring to the table. they must be saying what is the best thing for us to do? they want to be successful in 2018. >> and daca matters to them. >> a lot. schumer tweeted out that dreamers are not a bargaining chip for the border wall. he is saying if you bring up the

wall, it has nothing to do with daca. if you don't put daca in the budget january 19th, we don't pass. i sense an empasse. unless the leadership on the left -- because i think president trump is pliable -- the leadership on the left will stand to schumer and say i know where you stand. we have to get something done. there is a bipartisan committee in the senate. jeff flake is looki-- blake loo a compromise. >> blake tweeted bipartisan daca bill on senate floor in january. he believes that is coming and talked about that with mitch mcconnell. katie, do you think there is something in the senate that will support a compromise? democrats care about daca. some republicans do too.

>> it depends on what daca is defined as. it is the same thing that president obama signed through with the executive fiat without a lot of details of end dates or the terms. are they citizens? do they get a green card? legal status? there are a lot of details in this bill that will have to be worked out. 25 days we have now to get this done. brian, president trump is malleable to this. in september he took heat because he talked about daca and said we will do something for these people. >> [overlapping talking]. >> he said the wall will come later. that was a red flag for people. he reversed course on. that i think daca is too complicated to push through in 25 years. >> the polls showed 83% of americans in favor of daca

staying and 63% of trump supporter supporters want dreamers to get citizenship. >> i don't think you need public pressure. both sides want to walk on it. i would rather see a bipartisan effort with daca than with infrastructure where they want to spend so much money we don't have. here they can come up with a solution. it can be a little bit more subtle. it can be more nuance. you can offer citizenship to dreamers who are in the miltary. people who are wearing the uniform and those in law enforcement. people fighting for and defending this country. >> they are super dreamers. >> they are super dreamers. if you have gone to college and started a business, if you have never gotten a speeding ticket, that's a different category.

that's why so many people are saying they need to do something. put something together. stop politicizing it. it's a bargaining chip. the wall is important to the president. >> the wall is the issue. >> if you were brought here at a 3 years old and you are now 22 years old, can you stay? there is a pathway to citizenship for them. what about their parents? the answer is no. it's easy. no. >> no! >> [overlapping talking] >> governoring is complicated. does this get done? does the wall get built? >> i think so. >> they have to be a bargaining chip. it sounds good when chuck schumer says dreamers are not a bargaining chip. >> democrats used illegal immigrants and the dreamers as a

chip. they kicked this over to trump and said he doesn't have a heart. >> and nancy pelosi. >> they were not heckling mitch mcconnell. >> what happens? the president set this. >> take the list, chain migration and the wall and vetting. i will make the deal right now. >> he is running for office. >> these are real people. 800,000 dreamers. in march there were a lot of stories about some of them who are nervous about the future. they have families. we can't forget these are real people. >> tell them to make a deal. >> they want this budget passed in january. the democrats want january and mitch mcconnell said if you get me something on immigration, i

will put it for a vote in january. >> mitch mcconnell -- >> what about the wall? daca is not the issue. the wall is the issue. >> [overlapping talking] >> it's an issue for democrats. >> you can take daca apart and say you get citizenship here. the same thing with the wall. the wall doesn't have to mean a 65,000 mile great wall of the united states. a 90 million dollars wall. that could mean part could be surveillance and part a physical barrier. >> i don't understand the opposition from the left on the wall. >> they don't want to give trump a clear victory. >> that's a little much. >> this will continue. it's freezing here in the north. what happens to global warming? cue the tweet from president trump next. stay tuned.

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the polar bear plunges are being cancelled. cities are scrapping new year's eve plans. but not this one. jesse waters still has to come to work. it could be the coldest new year's eve on record that the president tweets: bundle up! thank you. a dire warning 7 years ago that the entire polar ice cap might disappear by 2014. >> scientists unprecedented that the north polar ice cap is falling off a cliff. one study estimated that it could be completely gone during summer in less than 22 years. another new study to be

presented by the u.s. navy researchers later this week warns it could happen in as little as 7 years. 7 years from now. >> all of those people were sitting there shivering in fear wondering when gore would stop talking. in 10 years the world would reach a point of no return. we reached that point of no return. the president doesn't like science. he said global warming can't happen if we are freezing to death. is he right? >> no, hot gets hotter and cold gets colder. he doesn't understand the climate. >> did al gore understand it? >> global warm is real and

humans are the cause. >> i agree that the climate is changing. weird stuff is going on. we can't necessarily control it. the part we can control, we have to look at that logically and not emotionally. that's been very problematic. >> it's like a religion. >> it is dogmatic. if you disagree, tim cook say you should be thrown in prison. i don't disagree with it you but i love actual science. how much of our economy do we sacrifice to fix the problem? >> clean energy is an economic job creator. >> [overlapping talking] >> being subsidized by the government. >> coal is subsidized more than clean energy.

>> no, it's not. >> go to texas. >> i have been. they are investing in solar and wind at historic rates and their energy costs are going down. >> [overlapping talking] >> they are fracking. >> calm down. know. >> i can't calm down. >> half was going to be under water because of greenland's ice melt and we would battle rapidly rising temperatures. what is your reaction? >> was president trump wrong to tweet that out? >> no. he is trolling. but that's what he does. everyone is losing their mind. i want to stop having this argument about is it or isn't? the explainers are saying it's the solar winds. i want to talk about the fact

that carbon emissions, the one olution on the left cap it and hurt our economy. >> that's not the one solution. >> [overlapping talking] >> this is a real problem. >> i am tired of celebrities like decap rio who owns a big yacht and a private jet to fly to the u.n. to tell us how to do less for the plan edit. -- planet. you can start. there is a different between pollution and climate change. china and india should be doing more. >> they are. >> i accept the premise that the climate is change. in arizona it used to be under the ocean.

you can see sea shells. i will get a lecture about the weather and climate change. >> i don't think we need big government solutions. i love technology. if companies allow me to drive around a willie nels bus. >> or partridge family bus. >> or flintstone's bus. >> let's embrace the future. >> that's a wonderful way to end. >> thanks, brian. that's the least i can do. coming up, a comedy show exclusive to women own. causing a stir! why won't you let men? we will debate it in a moment.

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>> ♪ >> ♪ >> comedian might have to tweak her comedy show to be more inclusive. men are not allowed and a lawsuit was filed against her. no boys allowed. the man suing attempted to see the show with a male friend only to be told to sit in the back row and later asked to leave according to the lawsuit. tom, do you discriminate at your comedy shows? >> i wish i could exclude half of my audience and still fill up the room. comedians can do whatever they want. >> in what way? >> they are free to do and say things other people aren't. >> don't there is an offensive line now? >> yes, it's getting ridiculous.

everything is working out great with the story. i don't think her desire was to do a show for all women. it was to get attention for doing a show for all women which is her right to do. this guy, i don't think he wants to see a women's comedy show sitting in the back or not. he want to cause a stir. i want to thank marie hart for making this possible. you wanted a world like this. people suing each other for discrimination. this guy is a troll. >> you are welcome. >> he is shoving it in our faces. it's working out well for everybody. >> she said this is a legal matter so she can't talk about it. she is upset this became a big thing and wanted to get a bunch of gals together to talk and laugh and donate money to planned parenthood. >> the guy shoeing was part of the national coalition for men who thinks that life is really

hard for them. i told tom earlier. i will give up ladies nights at bars and clubs if i get equal pay. not myself, women. women don't get equal pay to men. we have bigger problems to focus on. >> i think is the biggest. >> [laughing]. >> it's easy. >> i find it fascinating. in california the supreme court ruled in favor of the plaintiff against a metrocar wash that had a ladies night with discounts. >> that's a barn burner. >> [laughing]. >> discount in california are not allowed. >> it's equality. we want everyone to be equal at all times. if you own a business, you should be able to have anyone in that you want. just like you should have the freedom to bake a cake for whoever you want. that's a libertarian argument. if you have someone --

>> you can't discriminate based on race or religion. >> or gender. >> it is discrimination. take a category of humans. >> i think the men should have to pay. ladies get in free and men pay. >> he paid $30. >> tuesday is a good ladies night. >> it's only protection for certain people that you deem fit? >> no, no, no. there are certain protections under the law about discrimination . >> you are standing with this guy? >> i don't feel bad for him. i am not an attorney. come on! >> [overlapping talking] >> i will give you a little

piece of advice. it runs counter to everything in your being. it's not always about feelings. >> it is not. >> it's about feelings and emotions and men have kept us down for so long. we deserve to go out and burn our bras and laugh. i don't care. i think businesses should be free to hire and fire and exclude whoever they want. when it gets out they have been horrible dicks to people, people won't go and their businesses will close. >> this motivated me to watch little rascals with no women's club. >> 2018 new year's resolution no feelings. >> it's hard to get little rascals anymore. except when they grew up. >> facebook friday when "the

five" returns. for mom,

>> 2017 comes to a close. "the five" has one more facebook friday to squeeze in. let's do this, america! all right. this one comes -- i didn't get through them all last time. >> we are ready. what new movie do you want to see? >> the winston churchhill movie. >> 2018 creed 2.

>> [overlapping talking] >> last jedi and churchill. >> and lady bird. >> i will take my kids to see the last jedi. question. how do you relax after working such long hours? >> i never relax. ever. no. i take my dog for a walk. go to the gym. hang out. and then start working again. >> you don't rest? >> right. i am not into relaxing. if i did, it would be something i could not mention on the air. >> oh, wow! >> slow down, weirdo. >> thank you very much. >> you can't comment on my answers. >> this is america. >> he sleeps like batman. >> i heard that. weird. >> i drink scotch. >> scotch to relax? >> oh. >> a lot? >> no.

an appropriate amount. >> i thought you were going to say prefer rye. >> i prefer it and going swimming. >> working out with a buzz. >> it's a mini-triathalon. >> that's not true. that's bat reporting. >> fake news. >> this is my favorite one. from kevin. what is the worst job each of you has it, kennedy? >> i had to call people when i was 16 to see if they wanted a new home owner's insurance policy. >> that's a classic one. >> state department? >> come on! >> your favorite boss? >> john kerry. >> i knew she would say that. >> it has to be facebook and not from tom. >> my worst job, it's a tie.

i was hired to be a aware of the. waiter. they said wear a t-shirt. wait a second i am not a waiter because i had to the bus the table. you have to do that too. the plates are piling up. yeah, you have to issue wathe dishes. a waiter, a bus boy and a dishwasher. >> what! >> by the end of the night i fell like hell. i was duped into getting this job. it was at a pizza place. i smelled terribly. >> i loved all of my jobs. but being grounded by my parents and having to pick up dog poo. >> your dog? >> try it with scotch. >> yeah. >> it taught me good lessons about life. >> all of the domestic stuff is the worst job ever.

>> okay. i am sorry i went out of order. here we go. what time of the day are you most productive? >> that's a fine question. 7 a.m. >> you are a morning person? >> yes, me too. morning. >> 3:30. a.m. >> i am up. that's when i am the most interesting when no one is around. i find myself fascinating. >> [laughing] >> 3 in the morning. >> what is your alrm set for? >> 2:20. >> oh! you better get to bed. >> don't worry on tuesday. >> it's friday. >> probably in the morning. early in the morning when no one is around or up. running errands on a sunday morning at 8 a.m. is the best. >> we sound like we have such great lives. >> you have a tough job.

you have to be on the radio in the afternoon and stand up at night. you can't have a bad portion of the day. >> when i had redeye that was ideal. my radio show starts at 3 p.m. that's a morning job. >> you get up around then? >> i get up and go back to sleep. >> question, what was the best news reported for 2017, favorite news story? i don't know what kevin is talking about. >> i enjoyed the coverage of bitcoin so much. it was almost as polarizing as the coverage of the president. people were so excited when it was going up. 40% in value in one day. when it plummeted another group of cheer. >> i think the fact that citizens in the country are paying more attention to what is happening. or the fact it's almost over. that's my favorite story of 2017.

i will watch kennedy on new year's eve. >> my favorite story -- we have to get promos out for new year's eve -- reporting of the misspelling by the president. every news reporter with spell check on a trip to hell. to say to say this word and pursue that disour. -- story. it was hysterical. >> and over the coffee machine in the white house pressroom it has that word written. >> my favorite stories were the stories of the president and the state department getting americans back from overseas. otto warmbier was a tragedy but they got him home. >> fantastic. best story of the year. filling in on "the five" for an entire week. a great week. one more thing is up next.

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news, the iconic moment in rocky 3. >> rocky balboa. >> [cheers and applause] >> it is to stallone. the back up statue is 9 feet and 1800 pounds was up for auction. guess who bid for it? sylvester stallone. bid for the statue on a fictional character called rocky. it's with him. guess who showed up on kristen it? arnold schwarzenegger. that's my one more thing. >> well done. >> you are a bomb. >> not really.

>> all right, i am most excited because this sunday night the only place to be on the planet of earth is times square. jesse waters and i are hosting all american new year. chill your bubbly and get in your snuggy. we will warm your hearts and bring you the most creative exciting and wonderful moments you ever had on new year's eve. it will be so much fun. it will be frigid. we will warm the crowd and save the planet. >> will you wear that dress with the sleeves -- will your arms be exposed like in that photo? >> no. >> why do you want my skin to fall off. >> i was just wondering. >> i do have a recreation of the bodysu bodysu bodysuit mariah carey wore last

year. >> her new year's eve did not go welly. >> she gets a mulligan. >> the internet is awash in twitter with dogs. this is my dog. it was hard to choose just 4. doggo is internet speak for dogs. webster is paying attention to this word. they may put it in the dictionary. a little history shows that the term doggo is not just a twitter internet thing. it was used in the 19th century to describe lying dogs. >> whew! >> they are sleeping on their cute little bids. >> exactly. >> it's the most wonderful time of the year. it's college football bowl season. after the nfl controversy, we can celebrate football with

college football. two of the most historic programs in college football. my ohio state big 10 champion buckeyes take on the pac-12 trojans. the buckeyes are giving. back. students and staff from ohio state university teamed up to aid good will in dallas this week. they worked with usc. a nice thing to do. >> well done, maria. >> some of the pictures drawing "the five." >> there we go. >> oh, love it. >> she looks like she is scowling. the next day. chris sticking out of the top there. >> look at my face. i am losing my mind. >> oh! >> i am not liking my depiction.

>> beautifully done? don't miss "the five" new year special monday 5 eastern. "special report" with mike emmanuel tonight. >> looking forward to the all american new year. we will raise a glass in your honor. classified emails found in a treasure trove of emails belonging to one hillary clinton's closest aids. president trump told a "new york times" report there was no collusion 60 times. new york prepares to keep the holiday safe and the president's biggest tweets in 2017. this is "special report." >> ♪ >> welcome to washington. i am mike emmanuel in