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contrast after a year under president trump african-american un. am reached a 17 year low. national rate for black americans ages 16 and over fell to 7.throw %. over all crime rate in america's 30 largest cities affects minor groups fell by 2 opinion 7%. murder rate in the cities declined 5.6% will the left admit president trump is helping minors. let's debate that with david clark and here in washington moneastbounding presley. happy new year i appreciate you joining us. >> you have to admit the numbers under trump are trending in the right direction. economy is doing well and every is benefitting. >> the numbers the crime numbers, are doing well. they are trending well as they have been for past six years and

the un. am numbers in the african-american community are trending well as they have been for the past six years when you mention the drop this year. is there was a 2.8 drop last year and 2.8 drop the year benefit. we have been seeing for about 84 months now a decrease in the unemployment numbers for african-americans. >> that was unexpected that trump was going to condition to move the numbers in the right direction and things get better for minority group. >> i can't think of anything he has done to move it forward i give him credit for not mess itting up. i hope the trend conditions and numbers are larger when you say it is 2.7 in a year.

month by month it has been decrease i decreasing opinion 2% is that something. >> there are a lot of things, sheriff, what have you seen that president trump is doing that is helping the minority communities across the country. >> first, what i heard is purely delusional. everything is coming up roses in the president trump economy. president trump when he looks out in the economy he it is not see ethnicity and color he cease the american work and knows they are looking for meaningful work. he put forth less regulation, lower tacks, which helps companies hire people. under the obama economy compare and contrast he had his boot on the neck of the american economy with job killing regulations and high taxes we were told your honor boma 16% black un.

. rate was 16% now it is a 17 year low that spans three administrations. you say what you want about what obama did to turn the economy around. but we were told that was the new normal. job losses. consumer confident was down. by the way, black homeowner ship is up under president trump. when president trump campaigned he said to black voterins. give me a chance now he is producing i see good for all americans but in the black community a 17 year low in the unemployment rate. >> so, the congress just passed and the president signed a new tax bill reduce the rates do you believe that will help in the minority communities or not help in the minority communities >> no , i don't. >> why. >> the tremendous amount of debt we'll have to shoulder. >> the democrats are concerned about the debt.

>> is it odd how everyone changed. suddenly the republicans don't care about the debt and are add to it and bringing up infrastructure bills and excited about them. i'm wondering if the g. o. p. has an identity crisis. i want to deal with what sheriff clark said he said 16.9 was the new normal. i don't know who he was talking to. merry christmas sheriff clark. but the point is it has not been that high for five years. and it has been. >> i want to go back to what i asked you about which is allowing the minority communities and all americans to keep more monnetheir wallets that is good, >> yes. it is. >> why all the opposition to the tax plan when it will lower the rate in which they have to pay taxes? >> i think you know that it is not about the fact i get to keep $50 in my pocket. it is the percentile in the united states keep millions more

and that the corporations of the biggest winners of all. it is not. sheriff. >> someone keep a dollar it is when a person who does not have money gets to keep three dollars and people who have plenty keep 30 million despairities are clear. that's what people have a problem with. >> sheriff what is did your take on the tax plan. >> of course it will help. more blacks moved to the middle and upper middle class. that's who this tax cut will benefit. when people keep more money and get their kid in the black community the failing circumstance-12 urbab schools and get them to private schools that have to dig deeper. as long as all americans keep l money we know how to spend money better than the federal gentleman. i think it is a good thing. >> thank you, thanks, sheriff, i have one more issue before we

say goodbye. i want your reaction about a report out tone over an alleged incident with you and a passenger on a flight to milwaukee a year ago. the sentinal want reporting the fbi got involved. there is a document i read exonerating you from the department of justice. while there are no charges the passenger filed a civil lawsuit agains you. i would like to get your take on that. >> it is a frivolous lawsuit. i can't say much this is a fake news story. i know how president trump feels to be in the center of fake news i sent you the letter. they found no wrong doing. the case is closed. here we are in december they are trying to redig this story with li lies interwoven to make is team new. there was no wrong doingis i was

doing good police work and the attorney's office rescue myselfd that and said there was no evidence of wrong doing. >> sheriff. -- should have. i appreciate you being here and you as well we wish you a happy issue happy new year. a ruling in oregon putting the issue of gay rights verse religious libraries in the headlines who won this round and why in a minute. ♪ with expedia, you can book a flight, then add a hotel, and save. ♪ everything you need to go. expedia but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. the name to remember.

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>> one of the most difficult legal issue of our time. how to protect new established gay rights and our religious liberties when they come to conflict. the oregon court appeals ruled yesterday against a couple fined 135 thousand dollars after their bakery declimbed make a wedding cake. the attorney for the bakeers melissa and aaron cline said

they were declined of religious liberty and free speech. how do we find that balance when everybody rights want to be rapid. joining us now for the discussion from austin, texas is robert the general councillor and center for american future request robin burrow an act viv in an army ranger veteran in@lancea. thank you for your service and protecting the united states and your service we do appreciate that. i want to start with robert here. why is this a religious liberty issue opposed to what robin will argue which is dinner than that. why does religious liberty in the first amendment trump what is going on here? >> jason thank you for having me the issue is whether the

judiciary should constitute expression it is uncharted for courts to say what is are and what is not. oregon appellate court got it wrong when they decided the artist real expressed by mrs. cline and her custom cakes were not entitleed first amendment protection afforded to other mediums of artistic expression. why they had what they were looking to. arguing andmenting to appeal is going to be based on the first amendment issue. >> the way they got around that in going into the public docket reason that looks at ordinary businesses in commerce as brick and mortar operations that fall outside of typical first amendment freedom of expression and religious freedom protections. court did that to get to the end result it wanted to pleas it

ignored the fact that mrs. cline's business was not an ordinary bakery it was a service and expression she did using her hands and creating the cakes which was the way she expressed herself and the constitution is clear the first amendment protected that expression the oregon court failed to recognize and got wrong. as you look how do you see it my guess is you got a different take on that. >> i do and thank you for having me on. i want to make a point clear the reason it was 135 thousand dollar because the bakeers docked the individuals declined service they put their personal information out attacked their children turned them to cps and they were vilified them. this is nothing to do with expression they denied service. that's discrimination not an american. i would like to point out i see

it as an identity policy issue on the side of the right. lbg t americans would to be treated like anybody. i don't want to be turned away. this is not about cakes. this is wanting to be treated the same. we would like to stop this identity politic issue of being singled out i'm a gay army range are my buddies never treated me different as long as a shot fine, nobody cared. >> do you know that well is room for religious liberty. if it is a long stadding true belief in there religious liberty why can't they make this decision? that's a great question i'm glad you pose today. there is a case in colorado a customer wanted a cake in the shape of a bible that said homo

sexuality is a sin that was a first ma'am issue. baker sold them the cake and the bag of icing and said they could write when they wanted to on it. in that case it did not violate laws. they did not discriminate against religious liberties. that is where the line is. this is about discrimination the people were told they were not going to be served because they were gay. i understand the argument that why give a homo phobic baker your monteis discrimination that is not an american value. it is not okay. we are all menshes please move. i passed identity politics. no one cares i'm gay and this religious baker has no right to force her beliefos me. >> where is the line with religious liberty and this kaes is going to be decided by the supreme court. there is a different case pending before the court,

correct? >> that's right. this oregon case the cline case will be a footnote a consequence given that the united states supreme court is considering the masterpiece cake shop case. in the oral arguments before the u.s. supreme court the justics s kennedy and roberts were talking about where this tension exists. in the tug-of-war with the two sides. and how they are grabbling with that issue. the oregon appellate court avoidd that issue and shoe horned mrs. cline's artist real to the public doctrine in terps of a brick and mortar business the problem is the masterpieces she created were her form of expression and she is entitled to first amendment protection for that especially that is an express of her deep ly held

religious beliefs. robin i will give you the last word >> please, treat us the same. live by the golden rule treat us the way you want to be treated. discrimination is never okay. that's what i see this as. >> thank you, both. happy new year. coming up how onof president trump's problems with north korea game twice as bad i mean wish i had time to take care of my portfolio, but..

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>> north korea dilemma is more complicated for president trump. both russia and china have been secretly shipping oil to north korea in violation of the united nation's sanctions we showed you

chinese ship transferringo to north korean ships at sea. two security sources tell royaltiers the russians have been doing the same. discuss what this means with science professor in san francisco. thank you for joining us this is a difficult situation you had an impressive vote. now to have evidence that both russia and china are riviolating the sanctions what would you recommend to the president? >> what is happening here is that global leadership is devolved to the united states. and because the russians and chinese are not living up to united nation's security council resolutions the one in september, they are violating international law and norms. i would signature president of the united states make it absolutely clear that if the

government russia and china don't penalize and stop those shipping cutches that are trading oil with the north koreans, that the united states has to begin to look at military option options and the fact that the united states will become the le leader of resolving the conflict within asia and beyond. i think russians and chinese want to happen >> now to add to clarity you are se seeking mitt option with russia and china are not viable they can do a naval blockade is what what you mean by taking military action? >> i'm not suggesting military action ball because i know the secretary of state and the secretary of defense do not want to go down that path. they have been working over time on the diplomatic front. we have to let our adversaries

in the north korea issue understand the range of options have to be on the table. we will condition to suz diplomacy but they have to know that if they make north korea more of an unstable regime by prop itting up. serves in the interests for them. >> i think they understand it yet. jot president is trying to channel reagan in the peace through strength approach. is the united nations -- i would not say it is worthless it is a huge debate in societyune the general assembly of the united states is the target. but the fact we got unanimous votes in the united nations suggests that the international community is moving in the direction of what the united states has been saying all along

especially under president trump. that north korea has to be a denuclearized country it is so dangerous. it could be the site of nuclear proliferation throughout northeast asia. what it can do for united states now under the america first policy of the president is help reenforce the issues that america first and principled realism pillar of the president's policy suggests that sovereignty matters. respecting international norms and law matter as well. in that way the un plays a useful role >> my own take on this is more sanctions will not work the leader of north korea does not care about his people. but last question for you quick, the idea of a naval blockade to personality the importation of things needed in critical in

north korea is a viable thing on the president's desk. >> i think it is being debated in the pentagon and national security. weather it is on the president's desk, i don't know. i will speak to your pessimism on council resolutions. they work when there is compliance. and if given the strict nature of the december resolution against north korea and the security council, if indeed it is implemented fully it has a punishing impact on north korea russians and chinese if they don't comploy they are under mining something that could bring north korea to the negotiating table. >> i hope president trump conditions to show the world how the russians and chinese are not complying something they were supportive of. >> we wish you the happiest of

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