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the annual coney island polar bear plunge. they enjoyed 50-degree weather last year, this year, it was about 17 degrees. he complained about freezing feet and toes. other states canceled them altogether. we'll see you tomorrow. - can i try? - you can try if you like. okay. i'm harvey levin. this is a portrait of a towering giant-- on the basketball court and in life. man: shaq spins. and he dunked it! and he knocked david down! levin: shaquille o'neal's life started out bleak-- dirt poor and headed for disaster. did you ever break into places? in houses? uh, yeah. of course. but basketball changed everything. you made your first million dollars, and you blew through it in two days. how'd you do that? one-- i had no idea who fica was. that was just his opening act. shaq became a certified rap star,
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a movie star, and a mega successful businessman with an epic blind spot. i've never seen black people in my family drink coffee. it was the worst business decision of my life. and of course there was kobe and colorado. - threw you under the bus. - yeah, he did. shaquille o'neal-- from juvenile delinquent to colossal success. - hi, there. - how'd you get in my house, harvey? this house is incredible. thank you. how are you? i'm-- well, okay, i-- can we just kind of like say the obvious here? it's a little humiliating for me. all right, so let's sit down then. i mean, i'm gonna have neck problems after this. nah, we'll stand. so the first thing that i noticed that is front and center is that over the mantel. that's your mom. shaq: my mom is my favorite person in the world. she was the one that, as a youngster, when i didn't even believe i could make it,
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whatever "make it" means, she was always there. she told me stories of how when i was born, my grandmother, who was a very religious person, would say, "out of all my grandchildren, this one's special." - levin: why? - i never got the explanation. - they never explained it. - no. but she said, "this one right here, shaquille is very special, and he will be known all around the world." that's what my grandmother told us. "all around the world." - you call her your best friend. - yes. there are few people who call their mom their best friend. because i have a panel-- and what i mean by panel is it's about five people that can-- that can check me. what i mean by check, like whenever i do something crazy, i'll get checked. my mother is the president of that panel. so whenever i do something crazy, say something crazy, do something i shouldn't do, my mother will call me in the middle of the night and stop it. when she says, "stop it," when the queen says, "stop it," you gotta stop. okay, i'm gonna take you back, way back. when you grew up in newark, you were poor.
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i mean, i think that's a fair statement. did you feel poor? i felt poor after the first and the 15th. the first and the 15th, when payday come, we'd go to shoprite, piggly wiggly, get all the food, but living with a brother and sisters, that was quickly gone. so, you know, the last four or five days before the first and the 15th, we felt really, really poor. levin: so when you grew up in newark, there was nothing but poverty around you. i think you were born five years after the newark riots. - shaq: yes. - and it was drug infested. it was crime ridden. how did you not succumb to that? shaq: my father's older brother was killed in the newark riots, so when i was coming up, my father would always say, "i'm gonna make sure you're a leader, not a follower. if i have to discipline you to the point to where you become a leader, that's what's going to happen." and that's what actually happened. i was a medium-level juvenile delinquent. - how so? - just, you know, stealing gum and just hanging around with kids
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and just vandalizing stuff, spray painting, a lot of crazy stuff. did you ever break into places? in houses? yeah, of course. definitely. levin: so how did make a left and not go down that path when everybody around you was doing it? it was called "the belt." my father was a drill sergeant, so he was a disciplinarian. so whenever i did crazy things, he would find crazy ways to discipline me. and, you know, i don't-- i don't feel-- i don't feel sad about it. i'm actually thankful, because if it wasn't for him staying on me, i wouldn't be the character known as shaq. yet you never did that to your kids. no, never. i don't have to. levin: you would never do to your kids what your dad did to you, yet you're grateful for what your dad did when he hit you. - yes. - because it scared you straight? 'cause it scared me straight, it kept me out of trouble, and his whole thing was, "i'm not gonna let you go down this path like i almost did." i read your mom would actually fight drug dealers who wanted to get at you, to keep you away from them.
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- yes. - that's pretty heroic. actually, my mother and my aunt punched a drug dealer in the face one time. - why? - because he was trying to get me to deliver a package for him. - did you ever do anything like that? - no, no. 'cause, you know, my father would say, if i ever catch you doing drugs or drinking alcohol, you ain't gonna like it when you get home. so i always stayed away from that, even till now. no drugs, no alcohol. sarge was your stepdad. your real dad was a basketball player who fell into drugs and did not do well in his life because of it. and who i just recently got in contact with. he did not necessarily take the high road with you. i mean, he went on "ricki lake." - shaq: yes. - he trashed you. joe toney is shaquille o'neal's birth father and hasn't spoken to him in over a decade. he says no matter how hard he has tried to contact shaquille, his requests to see his son have been turned down. just want a couple minutes of his time where i can sit down and explain to him my side of the story. levin: and you even wrote a song about him,
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calling him out for leaving you. ♪ biological father left me in the cold ♪ ♪ when a few months old ♪ i thought a child was greater than gold ♪ ♪ but i guess not levin: and yet you've now made peace with him. shaq: yes, i'm not bitter that he wasn't around, and situations happen. another man stepped up. i'm thankful. and i don't believe in the terms "stepfather," "real father." - you think sarge was your dad? - yeah, sarge was my dad because he was the one who put clothes on me, put, you know, food in my belly and he taught me how to play basketball and disciplined me, you know, made me-- made me focus on the finer things in life, such as education. ♪ l.l. cool j. is hard as hell ♪ ♪ battle anybody, i don't care who you tell ♪ ♪ l.l. cool j. is hard as hell ♪ ♪ battle anybody, i don't care who you tell ♪ ( shaq laughs ) ♪ i'm gonna crack shells, double-l must rock the bells ♪ ( drums playing )
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♪ i've been waitin' and debatin', oh, so long ♪ you got it. - you got it. you got it. - this is awesome. levin: so this is your studio. - yes. - you still use it? shaq: yeah, i, uh... - i'm a dj, believe it or not. - i know that. let's go! here we go! tell 'em, y'all! ♪ this is the way we go ♪ come on! levin: so i've gotta talk about your rap career. you were a bona fide rap star. thank you. how did you overcome that nba player to rapper jump? that's amazing to me. well, for most of us, we all come from the same place. so on the way to the court, i'm pumping my favorite artist just to get ready to go play. so at that time it was ll cool j, run-dmc. you know, i wanted to be like them. and i don't like it when people laugh at me, so, you know, when i was doing it, i was, like, really, really serious about it.
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and of course, nobody had ever seen it before. levin: ever. i mean, i can't think of anybody else who did something like this, and you were doing it at around the same time you were a basketball player. shaq: yes, i was. i have rhythm. most seven-foot guys don't have rhythm. but because of rap music and me bobbing my head and me having rhythm, i'm a pretty good basketball player. my whole concept was i wanna-- i wanna do it with my favorite artists. like, me trying to do album by myself? it's not going to work. levin: you worked with jay z, you worked with biggie, and you worked with michael jackson. - shaq: yes, i did. - levin: that's amazing. when they came to you, was it more because they wanted shaq the basketball star and we'll listen to amuse him, and then all of a sudden they're shocked that you're good? i think they were shocked that i could hold my own. levin; you were supposed to be with biggie the night he was shot. - yes. - what happened? i fell asleep. i was waiting on my uncle. i was ready to go, too. i had on a white suit with a white derby and some white shoes. i was ready to go.
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and i woke up to my house phone ringing. and my house phone never rung. i'm like, "who the hell is this?" i'm thinking it's the guy downstairs calling me. my mom said, "were you there?" and i said, "what are you talking about?" she said, "your friend just got shot." at 00:45 hours, an individual who everybody knows as notorious b.i.g. was shot and killed. levin: you had top-ten singles. he had "what's up, doc?", "i got skillz." you have gold records in your studio here. did you ever think of hanging up the jersey - and just going right for rap? - never. so it was a hobby? yeah, for me it was just a hobby. arsenio would always say, "hey, man, why don't you be on my show? be on my show." so i said, "arsenio, listen, i'll go on your show, but you gotta let me do something at the end. i went, and that's when we performed "what's up, doc?" ♪ can we rock? ♪ yeah, what's up, doc? ♪ can we rock? yeah, what's up, doc? ♪ shaq: the next day my agent said, "you're not gonna believe this, but jive wants to give you a record deal. interscope wants to give you a record deal." i'm like, "really?" so i just, you know, took advantage of the deal.
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levin: so you conquer basketball. you conquer rap. what was the allure of becoming a movie star? shaq: as a kid, i would always say, "man, you see arnold schwarzenegger beat all them people up? i wish i could do that. and i'm in l.a. and a guy comes up, and he says, "hey, who's your agent? we're doing a movie called 'blue chips.' i want you in it." i'm like, "a movie movie? i'll do it." - thank you. - tell the cops he's hanging around the corner. and on behalf of the citizens of los angeles, i would like to apologize. levin: you played a black superhero-- steel. was that significant? 'cause i think it was the first black superhero. it was because, as you see up there, i used to collect superman comics. so the geniuses decided to kill superman off and bring him back as seven different supermans just for a while. and john henry irons steel was the african-american superman. and so, like, when i'm loo, i was like, "that's me. that looks like me."
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so then, when warner bros. and quincy jones approached me about it and said, "you wanna do this movie?" i said, "yeah." when you were lsu, before you got there, you had said girls wouldn't even look at you. - that changed. - wouldn't even look at me. it changed when i got on the cover of "sports illustrated." - that was it? - yeah, when i got on the cover of "sports illustrated," i walked through the quad and girls that would never even look at me, they're, "hi, shaquille. hi, big daddy. hey, diesel." my mother would always tell me, "watch out for those women."
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when you were at lsu, before you got there, you had said girls wouldn't even look at you. - that changed. - wouldn't even look at me. it changed when i got on the cover of "sports illustrated." - oh, that was it? - yeah, when i got on the cover of "sports illustrated," i walked through the quad and girls that would never even look at me, they're, "hi, shaquille. hi, big daddy. hey, diesel." my mother would always tell me, "watch out for those women. watch out for those women." what did she mean by that? her thing was make sure that a woman loves you for yourself. i was like, "i'm not interested." yeah, but, women, when you were single and in your 20s, early 20s, they were throwing themselves at you. shaq: they were. announcer: now the lob to o'neal. slam dunk! alley-oop. levin: how does being a basketball star affect your view of women when all you see is women throwing themselves at you? it doesn't. i respect women. women sometimes get the bad rap, but it didn't change my view.
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i don't let certain things change my view. i think i'm smart and intelligent enough to know who's who and what they want. in 1992 you made your first million dollars in endorsement for "classic car" magazine, and you blew through it in two days. yeah, i blew through it right away. how'd you do that? one, i had no idea who fica was. that is funny. yeah, so fica took about 400,000. so that leaves me with 600,000. but i thought i had a million, so i always wanted... that is really funny. shaq: i always said to myself, "when i make it, i'm gonna get me a black mercedes benz with a black leather interior. so as soon as i got home, my father was like, "that's nice. where's mine at?" like, 150 minus a million-- i still got 850 left. i could do this. we went down there, bought him one, came back home, my mother-- "where's mine at?" - you bought your mom one, too? - of course. and then i went and bought all the jewelry, and i bought a watch for 70,000,
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and i bought a big ring for 50,000. i was 200 grand in the hole. - did it have an impact? - yeah, it did. because a lot of times you think, "oh, i'll just make another million." it did. it did. it did. levin: in '96, you signed the biggest contract in nba history. - i think it was $120 million. - yes. when you make a $120 million in one contract, and you have all these endorsements, you're young, you're making all this money, but a lot of people don't know it can go away - until it goes away. - right. you're right, but i know it can go away. that's why i set up my businesses, since i lost everything. levin: how do you keep your ego in check when you're insanely rich, you're in your 20s, you are a huge celebrity, and everybody wants to be around you? i'm just-- just a happy-go-lucky guy, and "lucky" is the word that i always use. really? so you feel-- 'cause it's funny 'cause-- so you worked for your success, but you still feel lucky. shaq: oh, yeah, all the time. all the time. so that right there keeps me humble. and then i get-- i don't look at myself as a superstar.
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my story is the story of a regular working man making it to become very successful. shaq: a doctorate of education. i did that, basically, for my mother and for my children. levin: what do you mean? shaq: my children grew up a fairy tale life, and now that the life is over, i always have to explain to them, "this right here, that's not real life. this is real life. handling your business is real life." so i wanted them to see me as more than just shaq, the great hall of fame basketball player. so after i left lsu-- i left in '92. levin: and you left before graduating. - yes. - you had only completed three years. i, shaquille o'neal, after careful deliberation, have decided to forego my senior year of eligibility at lsu. and my parents were very upset, very upset,
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because i promised them that i would do all four years. but the money they were throwing around was just too great. i was like, "let me-- i gotta get out. i want to get you guys a new house." "that's not important! we don't care about a new house." really? they did not want you to take the deal? everybody now is saying, "dump school and go to the nba." why? i don't understand that. because the money? money isn't everything. because of the publicity? that's not everything. my father always said, "we've been broke-- we've been broke the last 18 years. we can be broke another two years till you graduate." they wanted me to graduate. you know, when i played and had a big game, he could care less. when i got these degrees, you should've seen the tears flow down his face. i was doing movies, doing albums. he was like, "i'm not impressed." so finally, in 2001, i got my bachelor's. man: shaquille rashaun o'neal. ( crowd cheering ) shaq: it was cool, and then i always noticed
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that when i'm in business meetings, they would never look at me. and i was like, "what, these guys think i don't understand business or something?" so i got with university of phoenix, and it took me four years to get my master's in business. and then after i did that, mother and father were so proud, my mother grabbed me, she said, "you know, we don't have any doctors in our family." it actually took me five years to get my doctorate in education, but it was a proud moment. my next big thing, when i "retire" retire, somewhere in america, i'm gonna run for sheriff. i haven't decided whether it's in atlanta or florida yet. so, 2020, i will be running for sheriff. most nba players go broke within five years of leaving. why not you? at 18 years old, magic johnson used to have these midnight summer dreams basketball games. so i went there. magic puts his arm around me and whispers in my ear, "it's okay to be famous, but at some point you wanna start owning things." at 18, i had no idea what he was talking about.
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but as i got older, i was like, "you know what? i gotta start investing." i invested in local carwashes, some local businesses, some strip malls. i did a lot of things that i was passionate about and it turned out to be pretty good for me. man: o'neal says that he's a lifelong fan of krispy kreme, and besides being an owner, he'll also serve as the company's global spokesperson. let's talk about the worst thing you ever did, which was you had a dinner with the ceo of starbucks. it was the worst business decision of my life. he says to me, "shaq, i wanna open up these starbucks in african-american communities in the inner cities." and my thing was, if i don't like your product, i will never do it. so i've never seen black people in my family drink coffee. so in my mind, it's like, "sir, sorry to disrespect you. i know you have a great product. a lot of my business friends drink it, but i don't think it's going to work." because you don't think black people drink coffee? i never saw a black person drink coffee. we drink hot tea, hot cocoa,
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but i'd never seen a black person who drinks coffee, so... - kind of misjudged that. - yeah, i did. i really did. and then i think he offered the deal to magic, and magic was very, very successful. levin: and magic opened it in inner cities. - yeah, and it was very, very successful. - and it worked. another thing. you turned down wheaties for fruity pebbles? yes, because... i always said to myself, as a business guy, if you don't like the product, don't just take people's money and endorse it. so you did fruity pebbles for free. yes, i did it for free. did it for free. i'm team fruity's biggest fan. second biggest fan. you had a stuttering issue, and it was because of self-confidence, right? yeah, i had a stuttering issue, especially when the teacher would say, "who would like to read chapter one?" i'd be in class like this. "don't pick me. don't pick me. don't pick me. don't pick me." and she would pick me, and i'd start stuttering,
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it's part of my new year's resolution: no more mayhem. making sure your car is pulled in far enough... but not too far. ♪ >> live from america's news headquarters in new york, i'm kelly wright. we are learning more about the man who killed the colorado deputy on sunday. the suspect was an attorney and an iraq war veteran. he had been posting online videos in recent months criticizing professors and law enforcement officials. authorities say he fired more than 100 rounds in his denver area apartment before he was killed by a s.w.a.t. team. four officers and two civilians were also injured. 2017 was the safest year for commercial air travel ever. according to a netherlands-based company, there were 111
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accidents and 13 deaths worldwide. the two fatal accidents both involved small regional planes. according to the report, that is a rate of one fatal accident for every 16 million commercial flights. i'm kelly wright. now to our special "objectified." and i'm still a handsome young man. - levin: you're with somebody. - my alter ego. that's your alter ego? yes. the one on top is shaquille o'neal, and the one with the little smile, that's shaq. so when you were growing up, you were especially tall. you've always been especially tall. - shaq: super tall. - and you were teased a lot for that. i was teased a lot. a lot of people would say i was dumb, 'cause if you got a guy that's damn near six foot in the second grade, people think, oh, he's a hold back. like he's been held back four or five times. - they thought you were older. - yeah. i've seen my mother strangle a bus driver one time
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because the kids under a certain age get to ride for free. so my mother would drag me on the bus and the guy would be like, "hey, 25 cents." my mother would be like, "no, he's underage." so i've actually seen her choke a guy once. like, she was choking a guy, and she pulled out a birth certificate. "see? i told you." so she carried the birth certificate around because she had to prove how old you were. yes, because she had to prove how old i was. you had a stuttering issue, and it was because of self confidence, right? shaq: yeah, i had a stuttering issue, very shy, didn't like to talk a lot, kept to myself. and especially when the teacher would say, "who would like to read chapter one?" i'd be in class like this. "don't pick me. don't pick me. don't pick me. don't pick me." then she would pick me, and i'd start stuttering, and the class would start laughing. and then to get people to stop laughing at me, i transformed into a bully. i was a bully. the only reason why i became a bully 'cause i wanted people to either like me or fear me. i don't want you to talk about me. i don't want you to talk about my height.
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i don't want you to say nothing bad about me. so you're either going to fear me or like me. levin: there were a lot of unkind things hurled at you. they were calling you, um, "shaquilla gorilla." shaq: all the time. levin: there were people that would call you bigfoot, sasquatch, shaqsquatch, um, and even worse. i mean, there were people in the stands who would call you "ape." all the time. so how does that not make you bitter? i mean, 'cause that's just flat-out racism. it is, but... you know, my mother and father, they said, "you always gotta know who you are." i know i'm not an ape, so certain names will never hurt me. it didn't bother you? no, it didn't bother me at all. well, it bothered me a little bit. so it bothered me to the point to where i said, "okay, i gotta make you shut up." so i just took it out on your team. man: shaq spins. and he dunked it! and he knocked david down. levin: so you won. shaq: yeah, so when you said something to me,
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whoever was guarding me, i will bowl him in the face. like, i'm cool and i'm nice, but as soon as you piss me off, i just-- i just get enormous and i just go crazy. man: shaquille o'neal has grabbed this game by the throat and squeezed. so did it get into your head? yeah, all the time. it did all the time. it didn't hurt me, but it got in my head. and when it got in my head, i just tried to crush the opponent. what's the biggest disadvantage you had with height? my mom used to say, "you gotta-- you gotta tone it down a little bit. 'cause, yes, he's six and you're six, but you have the strength of a 15-year-old, so, you know, you might hurt one of these guys." there she is right here, my lovely mother. - wow. - hello, everybody. this is your mom? i love this. i realize that ah, that $100k is notwell, a 103fortune. yeah, 103. well, let me ask you guys. how long did it take you two to save that? a long time. then it's a fortune.
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this just stuns me. - holy smoke. - those are my golf shoes. - these are golf shoes? - yeah. - size? - 22. okay, let me show you something. okay. - shaq: those are size... - it's a ten. levin: i mean, jeez, shaq. this is amazing. so you're what, you're 7'1". 7'1". um, and everything-- everything in this house, everything i look at on the wall, it's just big. look at the coat. i could make a tent out of that coat. i could say-- i could live in that coat. shaq: that's my hall of fame jacket. this room is my favorite room in the house. levin: so what's the biggest disadvantage you've had with height? shaq: i love-- i love sports cars, but i can't fit. i can't get a lamborghini or ferrari or a porsche 'cause i can't fit. i drive a porsche. - i know. - i got plenty of leg room. i know you do. so what's the biggest advantage of being tall,
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besides for making tens of millions of dollars in the nba? biggest advantage is that people see you. just being-- just being one of the most recognizable faces in the world because of my height. this is how people try to get at me. look. ( squealing ) when you're dealing with strangers, and you're six feet tall in the second grade, it seems like you almost are denied the right to just act as a kid, because every time you do, it's shocking to them. yeah, so like, every time i'd play-- every time we'd play football, i could hurt somebody. like, they would say, "he-- he's too big." and every time i'd-- you know, we'd play wrestle with my friend, i'd pick them up and throw him on his back. "uh, he's too rough." my mom used to say, "you gotta-- you gotta tone down a little bit. because, yes, he's six and you're six, but you have the strength of a 15-year-old, so, you know, you might hurt one of these guys." and here she is right here, my lovely mother. - wow. - hello, everybody. this is your mom. i love this. oh, my gosh. i'm harvey. - hi, harvey. - it is so nice meeting you.
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- hey, shaquille. - hey, mama. how are you? - how you doing? - thanks for coming. it is such a pleasure meeting you. i mean, the things you did with him are amazing. levin: so we're actually talking about height. he was teased a lot growing up because of his height. - mm-hmm. - you protected him. why not? that's my oldest son. but when he was teased, i had to let him know that he was very, very special-- unique. we don't wanna call it different, but unique. and i tell young people today, when they look in the mirror, and they're not like the other children, just say to themselves, "i am a designer original." so that's what i've been saying to him his whole life, that he is a designer original. levin: i'm curious. i remember wilt chamberlain, he customized his house in l.a. and the toilet seats were bigger and the sinks were bigger, and the ceilings were bigger. did you do anything like that? - no, i never do that. - how come? - you certainly can afford it. - yeah, i can afford it. so when i came here, the doors were already a perfect height.
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so let's just say i move to another city, and i buy a house. if the door is like this, i'll just duck. i don't wanna waste time, you know, being fancy. remember when you were moving to l.a., you wanted to sell it? - i said, "no." - yeah. "keep it, 'cause you're coming back." - right. - and we wanted to have this house as a headquarters 'cause we got children and grandchildren here. and when shaquille comes home, this is a family home. it's enough room in here for everybody. - everybody. - we wanna stay here as long as we can. if we have-- all have to move in here one day, it's enough room for everybody. - yes. - this is a super tight family. why, yes. it is a super tight family. it's called love. yeah. ( chuckles ) love. i couldn't make many pta meetings. i missed some birthdays. i missed some christmases.
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so, i love this room. i mean, it's all about your kids. shaq: yes, it is. i have wonderful children. levin: how involved were you with them growing up, especially given your schedule? i mean, i was-- i was there a lot. most of the time. you know, i tried to do-- i tried to do the regular dad chores, like take them to school and pick them up. but one thing about my kids is they understood my line of work. for example, on game day, i would have to nap between 12:00 to 4:00. like, they would play games of being quiet. i could hear them-- when i'm asleep i could hear them whispering and playing with their toys. they loved me and respected me enough to let me get my rest so i can go do my job properly. levin: do you spoil them? i spoil them, but i also teach them about respectable nepotism.
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levin: what does that mean? what i mean by that is, i have a lot of friends that are well off and their kids work for their business, but their dads always make them start from the bottom. and like i tell my kids all the time, "no degrees? can't get none of my cheese." levin: shareef, when he was 16, you threw a party for him with 400 of his closest friends. you gave him a jeep and a lambo. - yes, i did. - i call that spoiling. but the lambo is in my garage in l.a., and when he graduates from college, he gets to have it. i tell my-- you know, especially my boys, i tell them, "you don't need to play basketball. it's not important to me. i could care less if you play basketball or not. but it is important that you be able to run a business. levin: yet shareef is a hot prospect right now. ( players chattering ) and, you know, i'm sure he has nba in the brain. so are you trying to make him think past nba or are you letting him focus on it? shaq: i'm doing what is known as déjà vu parenting.
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whatever my father did with me, i'm doing the same thing with him. like, we rarely talk about basketball. when you were in the nba, did you have a desire to get married? was that something that was kind of on your list? i wanted to be responsible. like, you know, the most important thing to me is when my mother turned on the tv is she gonna be proud? so i was with shaunie at the time and we had two or three babies. and it just didn't look right or feel right not to be married. so i decided to get married to bring the family closer together. and that's why i got married. levin: is it hard for somebody in the nba to be married in a position like that? i think it is hard because, you know, marriage is-- marriage is an institution where you have to put a lot of work into it for it to last long. like, me? i was very moody. like, if i had a bad game, i was so hard myself that sometimes i came home and i took it out on the family.
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very unfair to them. but, you know, they still loved me for it, but it's definitely hard to be married playing a sport. i wanted to be so great that i just focused on it so much. and if i had it all over to do again, i'd probably do it different. but if you had balanced your life more, you might not be the guy you are today in the position you're in today. and, you know, good thing about my family is they allow me to be me. they understand me. they know that i love them and i care for them, but they know that i'm passionate about my work. they know i'm passionate about taking care of the family, so they let me be me. levin: you are on the road. there are temptations. it seems like a very difficult thing to be a family man when you've got that adulation from women as you travel all over the country all the time. it's very difficult, and, you know, that's why i always urge players, and especially players, don't get married unless you're ready. don't get married unless you're ready. levin: what happened with you and shaunie ultimately?
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shaq: it didn't work, and it was probably-- it was probably basically my fault, because, again, i was so moody, and i wasn't doing the right thing. shaunie is a wonderful woman. she does a great job with taking care of the kids. it just didn't work out. i wanted it to work out for the family's sake, but it wasn't her fault. it was all my fault. and i take full responsibility as a man. i wasn't doing the right thing. and i wasn't really concentrating, and it's something that i live with every day. but, you know, we're still-- we're still great friends and we still do the co-parenting thing. she's a successful businesswoman and she's doing her thing. she's fabulous with the kids. i love her for that. levin: let's talk a little bit about the partnership between you and kobe. we are the most enigmatic, controversial, dominant one-two punch in the history of the game.
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so there's a guy named evan in my office who said that you could play four hours with shaq and you couldn't get a basket. yeah, that's true. - think so? - i know so. - what if i could do it? - you can't. - can i try? - you can try if you like. i have my hands in my pockets
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- and you won't even score. - okay. okay. told you. oh, my gosh. - nice try, though. - okay. thank you. um... levin: so this is absolutely awesome. this is your home basketball court. - yep. - do you play a lot here? - no. - you don't? - not at all. - do the kids? - yeah, it's for the kids. - tell me about that. shaq: i don't know the date, but i know in new jersey i went up and i pulled it, and the whole thing came down. man: and-- he brought it down! he brought the whole goal down! shaq: and that's the goal, so i put it up there to remind everybody that's a goal that i-- ripped the whole thing apart. happened in my hometown, too, in new jersey.
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were you expected to play basketball just because of your height? no, my father taught me how to play all the sports. so football season, i played football. basketball season, played basketball. baseball season, played baseball. track, i ran track. football was my favorite sport. - really? - yeah. because i use to like to beat people up. football was the only time i could beat people up and not get in trouble. why didn't you pursue it? because i was sitting at home one day, and my father comes in with an article. he just threw it at me, and he walked in another room. so i'm looking at it, and in it was two tickets to the game-- san antonio spurs. and it said, "jon koncak signs for 15 million for three years." that's five a year. and my father said, "see, if you stay out of trouble and you listen to me, you can get numbers like this when you're done." because, believe it or not, my dream was to make eight million for ten years. i already had it planned that i was going to make 800,000 a year. i was going to buy my mom a house.
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i was going to get a jimmy blazer and a benz, and that was going to be it. so was it not the passion then for basketball - but really the money? - yes. - really? - yes. levin: were you naturally good? shaq: no, at first i wasn't good. but, you know, i just gradually worked, worked, worked. and then when my father showed me that article, that's when i really started focusing. you had problems dunking. as a youngster, i did. and my father changed that, too. - how'd that happen? - so one day in the game, i'm real smooth and i'm, you know, and i finger-rolled it up. my father called a time out, pulled me outside. he said, "come outside." he said, "what are you doing?" i said, "i'm just working on my dr. j." he said, "there ain't no dr. j. be shaq. you better start dunking every time-- every time you get the ball, you better start dunking." and he walked back into there. so i was so mad and so embarrassed that he did that, that i told my guy, i said, "give it to me." and from then on, i would dunk, dunk, and the crowd would go crazy. and i was like, "you know what? once again, sergeant phil harrison was right."
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'cause once i started dunking, like, the day-- nobody had ever seen me dunk before. i would dunk and hang on the rim and pull myself up, and the crowd would go crazy. i was like, "he was right." let's talk a little bit about the partnership between you and kobe. that was something people had never seen before, the power of that partnership. we were the most enigmatic, controversial, dominant, one-two punch in the history of the game. a lot of stuff went on outside the game that never happened inside the game. like, people actually think that kobe bryant and shaq o'neal hate each other. that was never the case. there was a falling out for a time when kobe said some pretty harsh things when he was having his difficulties in colorado. he told cops that you paid off women. didn't affect me, i mean, 'cause i had to, like, sit back and understand what he was going through. like, he was going through a real life situation.
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like i always said, "this is a fairy tale life," but the situation he was going through was really, really rough. yeah, but he threw you under the bus. yeah, he did, but i forgive him. let it go. forgive him, forgive him, forgive him, let it go. - so we never-- - why? why? why? because my mother knows me. she knows that i was getting ready to go off and do something that's, you know, probably would still be talking about to this day. but she called me immediately and said, "don't. baby, you gotta be the bigger man. you know, he's going through some things. you know, we're going to pray for him. we're going to wish him well. we hope it turns out okay. but you just play basketball and concentrate on you and don't respond on it." that's the advice that i took. when you look back on your basketball career, was it the shining light of your life professionally? yes and no. my mother told me that my grandmother told her that i would be known for something more than basketball. basketball is just-- you know, set the path for me to do bigger and greater things.
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so now when i wake up every day, i just want to inspire people, make people laugh, be nice to people. that's why when you look at shaquille o'neal, you don't see an entourage. you don't see 40, 50 people. you don't see gold chains. you don't see none of that. you see a nice guy that's nice to everybody, and that's how i was raised. shaq, thank you so much. - and thank you. - inspiring. i want one more shot at you. whatever you want, harvey. you're not gonna score. i just want one more shot. - you stay right there. - i gotta take the coat off, though. - i'll get the ball. - okay, now i feel better. oh! taking off your jacket. okay. when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night. hold on dad... liberty did what? yeah, liberty mutual 24-hour roadside assistance helped him to fix his flat so he could get home safely. my dad says our insurance doesn't have that.
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i want one more shot at you. whatever you want, harvey. you're not gonna score. i just want one more shot. - you stay right there. - i gotta take the coat off, though. - i'll get the ball. - okay. now i feel better. oh! taking off your jacket. - okay. - ( shaq chuckles ) okay. i just need to think about this for just a second. okay? - it's possible. - go ahead. okay. let me just think. - i'm gonna let you shoot. - okay. low, low, low, low, low. low, low, low, low, low.
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