including everyone, including himself and his family apparently. he's actually doing better than most politicians could ever hope for. that's kind of interesting. it's an experiment we are living through at once. >> kimberly: and your

expectations, he exceeded all expectations. >> greg: on fox news, i was in the top four critics of donald trump. i didn't know what to expect. >> it's irrelevant now. >> greg: a lot of them are gone now. my point is given what we know about back then and what we are seeing now, who cares about that? >> kimberly: dana, what is your take? >> dana: a different perspective, in washington, especially when you work for a sitting president. when george stephanopoulos' book came out during the clinton administration, he was basically cut off from them. it was a big deal. they basically said you are dead to us. scott mcclellan wrote the book during the bush administration. i was press secretary at the time and i was super upset. washington loves a story. americans dig into it. one of the things president bush

called me into the oval office and set i hear you are upset but i don't want you to worry about it. i said, can i throw you under the bus? he said i want you to believe me. no one is going to think about this in two weeks. one of the things that's positive for republicans and one thing that could be trouble ahead. the severing of ties between president trump and steve bannon is probably good for continued cooperation for the type of accomplishments greg was a little into. if you don't have the constant pushing from bannon, you allow them to work together. you probably don't have to worry about steve bannon trying to primary those incumbent senators. the thing i think that was eye-opening about the excerpt greg is referring to is that in one of the quotes steve bannon talks about, the issue isn't anything that has to do with

2016, it was before 2016 and it is about money laundering. talked about jared kushner. i was like, i would pay attention to that. in the president's statement, he doesn't address any of the claims. he calls him a staffer. matt lauer asked president bush when his book came out, why didn't you write about scott mcclelland? president bush that i didn't think it was relevant. that's the way you try to sort of push these things out of the spotlight. this will be a story for a couple days and move on. the money laundering piece was eye-opening. >> kimberly: it's interesting because the president went out of his way to make these statements. knowledge, information where he had problems with bannon et cetera and believes some of these things to be occurring in the past when he was there but i know they were still in communication once steve bannon left the white house.

>> jesse: i am surprised he didn't say i didn't know steve bannon. the story is either fake news or real but either way, it helps the president. the media shot itself in the foot and if it's real, bannon is weekend and there's going to be no more roy moores. i read the first paragraph. three lies, trump didn't want to win, melania cried and kellyanne conway didn't think they were going to win. i know those are lies. you have bannon saying this meeting at trump tower was treasonous. on "60 minutes" two months ago he said the collusion thing was a farce. this guy wolf has a terrible reputation and his own industry. people say he is a gun for hire. last book, 12 people came forward and said all of the quotes attributed to me were completely manufactured. >> kimberly: he talked to a lot of people. >> jesse: he's got a representation

reputation for inventing things out of thin air. if steve bannon said the president of the united states sun as a traitor and weak and could crack and his son-in-law sleazy, then not only is that incredible disloyal, it is stupid. trump values loyalty almost above everything. being a team player. this is something the mooch previewed off the record. if this is true, he has no credibility going into the primaries which i think is going to be good because no one is going to want to give him money. that could help the president. >> geraldo: i take it on a personal level. in terms of the legislative prospects, dana astutely laid out the impact. the fact that bannon is in exile. et tu, brute?

you talk about treason? steve bannon, how dare he. what he did to donald trump jr. is one thing. the best defense for donald trump jr. in the infamous meeting in the white house, not being nefarious, it was so naive there was no lawyer there. so overeager, overenthusiastic. to me, that's his best defense. donald jr. didn't intend to collude with russians in any way that was illegal anyway. he wanted to get whatever information he could get. >> kimberly: do you believe he said these things? >> geraldo: to me, the worst thing steve bannon did in this whole episode is to suggest strongly that donald trump jr. is sitting in trump tower a couple blocks from here surrounded by these commies. and then after the meeting he

says there was zero possibility he didn't take the russians up to see his father. "washington post," "new york times," every investigative reporter in the nation has been striving to connect donald trump with that meeting with the russians and has failed to do so. now here's steve bannon suggesting you can take it to the bank. zero probably probability didn. this guy was his best friend? >> kimberly: it's disconcerting if somebody was supposed to be on the same team with the president, very loyal advising him, trying to transform american politics and the forgotten men and women across the country, you don't do it by making these kind of very strong statements and taking a swipe and trying to take out the president son and the family and the essentially the president himself. >> jesse: he is given the left and the media a weapon to her the president with. a lot of the same people have said steve bannon is this

horrible person, he's racist, propaganda. now they are taking him for what he said and using, and now he's a truth teller. they are using this against the president. it is sad, the whole thing is sad and he didn't need to happen. >> geraldo: one quick point. greg suggested president trump did this on a lark. i've known him a long time. he started telling me he was going to be president in 1998, 1999, 2000. he wanted to be president more than he wanted to make money. >> greg: i believe he had doubts, the way everybody had doubts. i'd buy into the idea that everybody was surprised. as for bannon, i believe he hated the family because the family provided insulation from bannon. those were the only people in this way. i think bannon saw trump as a vessel for his own disruptive principles and agenda. he wanted to disrupt.

>> kimberly: he didn't like the globalist tendencies. >> greg: bannon is a radical. he wants to disrupt. he doesn't have mild opinions. every opinion is the extreme opinion. ivanka would despise someone like roy moore. who embraced roy moore? bannon. that's the difference. >> geraldo: she could run circles around him intellectually. >> kimberly: we will see where this goes. check your twitter. ahead, the tweet from president trump, his fake news awards teas and much more when "the five" returns.

♪ >> dana: kim jong un threatens to nuke america and our president respond with a thread of his own and critics explode. you may have seen the tweets. >> he is not merely being

cavalier with a threat about nuclear war. he's being cavalier in a threat that makes him say demented and arranged. >> this is language that would've been rejected from the script of "dr. strangelove." we can't begin to normalize this. it's dangerous, childish, unpresidential. >> perhaps never have we seen a man whose profound sexual and masculine insecurities are threatening to annihilate the planet. >> none of it is stable behavior. >> dana: it continued at the white house press briefing this afternoon. >> reporter: after the tweet about nuclear threats, the nuclear button. should americans be concerned about the president's mental fitness that he appears to be speaking so lightly about nuclear buttons? to go they present and the people of the country should be concerned about the mental fitness of the leader of north korea. he has made repeated threats.

he has tested missiles for years. this is a president who's not going to cower down and not going to be weak. he makes sure he's going to do what he promises to do and that is stand up and protect the american people. >> dana: i was there by myself myself. i don't know how to use the four remotes it takes to watch television. i was watching on twitter and holy entertained. take a look at what happened. >> i have asked twitter's spokesman, does it violate the terms of service, making this threat toward north korea? no media comments from the company. still waiting to hear. i think they are trying to decide if this kind of tweet referring to a nuclear button to go he knows how to use, whether it's a violation of the terms of service. >> greg: he is officially america's hall monitor.

he is a walking nuclear button. he is around and shiny like a button. you push in many goes off. oh, my god. he has violated terms of servic service. they say if trump were a foreign leader, we'd be worried. for once, it is not the reverse. the rationality from other countries worked for them. we put up with that because we didn't know what would happen next. this is a good thing. the best part is it's working. north korea and south korea are opening channels to talk. because north korea is feeling the pressure. we are at war with north korea, embargoes, stopping ships. they are feeling it. they want to talk to south korea which means they want to talk to us. one more point. >> kimberly: grab your notes, beautiful one. >> greg: did you see

kim jong un is getting a makeover? he is getting a makeover. why do men get makeovers? why do they clean up their act? they are seeking a new relationship. he realizes. people are too apocalyptic about this. things are working out. this is great news. >> dana: many different audiences. he talks your allies, your enemies, the american people, the military. this tweet might've been meant specifically for kim jong un to see. have people who aren't in his base getting worried about it. i don't know if they got a lot of reassuring today. >> kimberly: i like this. it has thrown kim jong un over the edge. now he's getting a mommy makeover, a lift and a talk. he is feeling insecure about himself because president trump is unnerving him.

he doesn't like it. psychologically he's not responding well to it. i don't have a problem with president trump's tweet. i think it's fantastic and i'm glad some buddies standing up to this guy. he's been an international punk and bully forever and he wants to threaten everybody with his nukes and it's about time somebody stood up to him and said enough is enough. he has been catered to, allowed to exist and proliferate with this nuclear power ability. quite frankly, it makes the world less safe. if president trump wants to be the person is going to stand up and doodling about it along with nikki haley and motivating the u.n. to do the right thing. talk about buttons, working all day long. >> geraldo: there is no doubt trump's button is big. >> kimberly: because you you we on the apprentice. >> geraldo: he's not stupid, not reckless.

he knows there's a rigid process to go through before you declare war. what i urge people and i continually go back to this particularly with my friends being hostile to the president. it's not what he says. it's what he does that really matters. he can talk and inflammatory game, the president can, in terms of his policies and in terms of his actions, he's a pretty prudent, traditional, effective president. moderate republican president. i think he is doing a fine job. the fact that he shakes up this guy, rocket man and so forth. i was in korea when they first opened up the dialogue between the south and north and they had telephones where you had relatives in the north talking to their cousins and south kore south korea. it went nowhere and it got polluted. i don't think there's anything

wrong with encouraging korea to cool things down. >> dana: jesse, take it away. >> jesse: i don't think little rocket man needs a makeover. why mess with perfection? the high fade, the tan jacket. i think trump aims to entertain but he is also aiming to ridicule, just like he did during the election. he humiliated little rocket man. for the media to question trump's mental stability, they worshiped obama like a cult leader for eight years. they are the ones who are mentally unstable. they need to accept trump's style parties on this for almost two years. stop trying to diagnose him. this is the reaction when you had president obama, you get the opposite. he was thoughtful and professorial and he lead from behind. he never confronted evil.

trump comes out there, street fighter, brawler, bellicose. he shoots from the hip and i think that's with the american people want to. pointed obama's soft action do? trump is trying to clean his mess up. i say what's more dangerous? >> greg: you know what trump should tweet next? i love big buttons. i cannot lie. >> dana: a monologue you won't hear anywhere else on the president's upcoming fake news awards ceremony. up next. liberty mutual saved us

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awards to his biggest offenders. this is a first. are you surprised? have you noticed the media is an object of criticism for the president. the media seems as robust as ever. everyone is either a woodward or bernstein when they aren't high. similarly, homicides in chicago have fallen 60% in 2017, a welcome reduction from the bloodshed that made its mayor or a target of trump's ire. why didn't this reduction occur under obama? the aggressive journalism and aggressive policing are actually due in part to the "prove trump wrong" effect. fox news railed against media bias. the next few years we have covered chicago's problems. did rahm emanuel listen at all? no. now we are seeing the media

adjust its behavior over accusations of fake news and a city mayor under a president who isn't his best friend puts more cops on the streets. my theory: bureaucrats and media hate trump so much that they can't let him win the arguments of the up their game just to shut the guy up. trump's tweets about chicago, iran, the media. it may be the best motivational tool we've got. geraldo, don't you think the media is extra motivated? every time they screw up, they've got to listen to trump make fun of them. >> geraldo: i think -- i am old enough to have lived through and been in business during president nixon. he could not buy a break. president trump, i think he gets worse press than president nixo president nixon. i think absolutely everything he does is construed in the most evil, negative way possible. and these awards coming out next

week, next monday, it's a gimmick. it's kind of a shtick. on the other hand, i was in puerto rico with the president when the nobel winning economist for "the new york times" wrote the story of how president trump's neglect of puerto rico led to a cholera academic -- epidemic. there was no cholera epidemic. i nominate him the nobel laureate economist for whatever he's going to call these. >> greg: they let him say whatever he wants. kimberly, do you have any nominations? >> kimberly: it's going to be funny. everybody on cnn. don don lemon, jake tapper. they will be losing it, freaking out. we are actually fair, honest. what is president trump saying? i'm sure they are actually quite nervous about it and he liked that he is taking control of the

situation. he is behind the wheel, saying i'm going to tell you what i think about you. i'm going to say it straight to your face. that's it. i'm going to tell the whole world that i like the approach. he's using it effectively, diplomatically. on the international stage, as it relates to national security. immigration, taxes, it's his approach. >> geraldo: you don't think it threatens the first amendment? >> kimberly: i think the first amendment is solid. >> greg: do you know what it is, dana? like, what are your predictions for 2018? this is a guy born and bred watching fox news. >> dana: i thought "the five" is going to have the best ratings. monday at 5:00. it is good if it is done with a laugh, if it holds you up for ridicule in the media, i don't think it's necessarily good. i think if the tone and tenor is

right, it can be kind of a joke and maybe even fun. i do think there is something to be said about how other countries see it and how other countries use it against their own people. i think that's not good. >> geraldo: do you really? i heard that arguments my understand and i read the editorials that say that. i travel a lot and no one comes up to me and says see, you are fake news in america. >> jesse: what do they come up to you and say? i thought you were going to say self selfie. >> jesse: we are watching the trump show and it's on at 5:00. >> kimberly: i think it's on that purpose. >> jesse: like you said, the media being more fair and balanced. either that, or he's just branding them phony losers. >> greg: like rahm emanuel. now he's doing this. he didn't do it under obama.

that's so weird to me. >> jesse: i don't think the media has enough self-awareness to course correct. if i were the cnn people, i would make fun of his hair. focus on north korea and laugh about it. >> kimberly: they are humorless. >> jesse: it's like a press genocide and we are all victims in the first amendment is under attack. >> greg: team clinton still losing it over the "vanity fair" knitting video. when a cold calls...

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comedy. anything that will keep you from running again. >> jesse: that video wasn't received well by the left. some accusing that magazine of sexism. for hillary to go away and take up hobby like knitting. setting a double standard for another failed presidential candidate. mitt romney, former campaign spokesman tweets "mitt romney made a run for senate? i thought failed candidates were only allowed to take up knitting." another, "strange how losing male candidate mitt romney is being immediately discussed as a replacement for orrin hatch's seat and isn't being told to take up knitting." >> dana: why not laugh along with it? making it an issue, giving it

attention. >> jesse: prolonging it. i think the clinton team can't accept the fact. >> dana: does she want to run for senate? >> jesse: no. why can't they understand maybe people don't like her because she's not likable, not because she's a woman. >> greg: take mitt. you know knit. what's wrong with knitting? it's an insult. the point is the republicans are lucky to have mitt romney. the democrats are not lucky to have hillary. he is an asset. she is an... albatross. i love it when the left eats itself. "vanity fair" is very liberal. who is attacking them? other liberals. when i see that, it brings joy

to my face. it >> jesse: there's a lot of magazines on the right that go after republicans. that is considered healthy debate but you are not allowed to criticize. they apologized. what is that about? >> geraldo: i think sexism is being used the way racism was used for intellectually lazy people when you don't have a real issue. when you don't have a real issue. i don't think hillary clinton could win running for senate or mayor. she is a terrible candidate. god bless her. she's a wonderful woman. she did a great job when she was in the senate i like her a lot but she ran a lousy campaign. mitt romney on the right-hand ran a pretty good campaign against a really very popular president who had a wonderful line. bin laden dead. gm alive. that was the line. mitt romney could get 70% of the

vote from utah. i think he would be great. >> jesse: i would rather see hillary as mayor of new york than bill de blasio. >> kimberly: he is the worst. in terms of hillary clinton, she has a shrinkage situation with her supporters. the last diehards are in there. anybody says anything they believe to malign her in the slightest, they freak out and go on attack. i agree with dana. they should take it in stride and go okay, fine. mitt romney is a winner. this is somebody i believe honestly conserve utah very well and this is somebody who didn't go around and cry like a baby after and write "happened" and do it big book blaming everybody for everything. she was not a very good candidate. he worked ten times harder than she did. everybody knows it. her staff knows it.

president obama knows it. she disappointed a lot of people who worked very hard and gave a lot of money to support her. the democrats know they need to pick someone else. mitt romney, i don't think there's any comparison between the two. >> jesse: he's probably going to win that senate seat. >> dana: if he runs? yeah. >> geraldo: who would he run against? >> kimberly: doesn't matter. >> greg: no more men. >> dana: the left loved mitt romney when he was attacking president trump during the campaign. they will turn around. >> jesse: another trump bashing rant. "the view" goes off the rails.

>> geraldo: the trump presidency has taken a toll on most of the hosts at "the view." my old pal joy behar for example kicked off the new year with an unhedged tirade comparing

president trump to iran's supreme leader. "the view" went south from there. >> it's not apples and apples. it's not equal. we are on a slippery slope in this country towards throwing democracy out the window. >> freedom of the press and civil rights. >> not yet. not yet. >> geraldo: thank goodness for meghan mccain. she is a sober, realistic voice. i love ana navarro. joy behar is very, very funny, very engaging but when you start comparing what they are doing in a country that is repressive like iran. >> jesse: ana navarro is one of the smartest people? every week we have a ana navarro sound bite. >> geraldo: she went down the hate trump road and what you go down that road you can't come back. tapper and the cnn people. once you go there and you see

this guy is radical. kimberly, i believe -- [laughter] i think it is like the rosie o'donnell school of entertainment. they don't mean it. >> kimberly: personally i like joy behar a lot. she is sweet, a lot of fun. great to have at a dinner table, that's for sure. this is the nature of their show. they get after it. >> greg: everything we are about to say, oh, they are a really nice person. just say that was an idiotic comment. >> kimberly: that's your turn to speak. the point is, this is what they do. they have fun, they mix it up. that's part of the show. they are not a hard-core news show. they give opinions and these are

the opinions she's had from the beginning about president trump. >> geraldo: do you believe joy behar believes because of trump's policies, the united states is sliding into an iran-like government? >> kimberly: there's a 50% chance she believes that. >> jesse: i don't believe that. i believe meghan mccain scored a point and instead of admitting she got it wrong, she tried to weasel out of it and say may be, may be. she got burned in a debate. you know what that's like, geraldo. i've seen you on "the factor." that's what happened to her. maybe, maybe. if a republican on fox news under obama had said president obama could soon, we could start seeing christians murdered in the streets, that would be a huge national story. i don't know whether or not the media covers for "the view" or they don't think joy behar is

the titan of journalism so they let it slide. >> kimberly: you don't think they take it seriously? >> jesse: i don't think they do. >> geraldo: do you think they truly believe it? >> dana: i think there are people who think, they are really worried and they wake up worried and they stay worried and they stay in an agitated state. but actually things are good. the economy is good. if there is concerns about, they are talking about people -- gay people, changing the regime in iran would go a long way toward helping gay people. >> kimberly: and women. >> greg: i agree with geraldo. this is more about cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias. you are asking as she really believe that customer she doesn't believe it but she can't allow herself to commit it -- admit it. she can't admit that the

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♪ >> kimberly: it's time for "one more thing" ." >> greg: oh, do i have a podcast for you. if you are a fan of "redeye," go to podcast. we are talking about her experience with harvey weinstei weinstein. among other things. tune that in. >> kimberly: did you have a knitting addendum? >> greg: russell crowe. a lot of natures. it's okay to knit or needlepoin needlepoint. i knitted lou dobbs a bodysuit he wears in the winter. >> dana: i think it is jesse

next. >> jesse: you are on jeopardy at one point. an unfortunate spelling gaffe in jeopardy. >> a song by coolio goes back in time to become a 1667 john milton classic. >> what is gangster's paradise lost. >> charges have reevaluated one of your responses. you said gangsters instead of gangstas. you are now in second place. >> jesse: he ended up winning. >> dana: he didn't want to culturally appropriate. >> kimberly: it is so lame. someone wrote in and complained. what haters. boycotting jeopardy. >> dana: ringing the bell at

the newark stock exchange on behalf of warrior dog. he started the foundation in 2014. he started the foundation to care for retired military and law enforcement canines. he opened a branch in texas where these canines can live out their retirement. >> kimberly: i like that. another uplifting story. this is my segment honoring heroes. what a wonderful story about new chapters in your life. this story in particular, we honor a 93-year-old world war ii veteran elected mayor in new jersey and was sworn in last night. he campaigned. he didn't let his agent stop him from running and winning the job. he went door-to-door campaigning. last night he was officially sworn in.

>> justly performed all the duties of office of the mayor according to the best of my ability. so help me god. >> congratulations, mayor. >> kimberly: former electronics engineer for the u.s. department of defense, veteran, and was a police chief. the bible he was using belonged to his late wife of 64 years. she died sadly in 2013. >> jesse: good name for a mayor, vito. >> geraldo: my mom was a war bride. my mom was jewish. my dad was puerto rican catholic. we are always conflicted between christmas and hanukkah. we solved that "oy to the world." >> kimberly: so nice.

>> greg: he has done it again. >> kimberly: "special report" up next. >> bret: this is a fox news alert. welcome to washington. i am bret baier. president trump's former chief strategist steve bannon under fire tonight from president trump, a blistering statement this afternoon saying: when bannon was fired, "he not only lost his job, he lost his mind." after excerpts from a new book or published in which bannon called a meeting between trump campaign officials and a russian where "treasonous and unpatriotic." he warned a special counsel investigation looking into money-laundering could take down members of the