always have them coming. good night. >> i am jesse waters. it's 5 o'clock in new york city and this is "the five." >> ♪ >> ♪ >> the book that shook washington end anded the relationship between president trump and steve bannon hits stores at midnight despite cease and desist orders to keep it from publication. michael wolff appreciated the

president. >> where do i send the box of chocolates? >> he is helping you sell books? >> absolutely and helping me prove the point of the book. >> the white house calls "fire and fury" a work of fiction. president trump said he never spoke to him for his phoney book. full of lies and representations and: wolff challenges the president's interview denial. >> i absolutely spoke to the president. whether he realized it was an interview or not, i don't know. but it was not off the record. >> you spoke to him at the white house after he was sworn in? >> i spoke to him after the inauguration, yes. i have spoken -- i have spent about 3 hours with the president over the course of the campaign and in the white house. my window into donald trump is

pretty significant. >> why don't we see if sarah sanders can settle it. >> they spoke once by the phone for a few minutes. it wasn't about the book. they had a short conversation. he never interviewed the president about the book. he begged to speak with the president and was denied access. he makes it sound like he was sitting outside of the oval office every day which is just not the case. this is a guy who made up a lot of stories to sell books. more and more people are starting to see that his facts simply don't add up. >> kimberly, before we get your take on recent developments, the new nickname and where does sloppy steve rank with trumps nicknames? >> it's not as good as pocahontas. but it's pretty good. it conjurors up the image of a sloppy, joe. get. it in a big messy sandwich.

it's not something i would be happy with if i was steve bannon. it suggests a dischefled appearance. >> geraldo, this guy only got 3 hours in the course of 9 months? >> more than 9 months. the campaign began in 2015. you have 3 hours. that's not 3 hours of michael wolff speaking with president trump or president-elect or candidate trump. that's being in the presence of donald trump, the man he absolutely analyzing as if he were a shrink and says things. yesterday my wrath was direct ad at the benedict arnold steve bannon who has been a traitor to the family that entrusted him.

today -- and i don't like criticizing reporters -- but michael wolff said something they think begs exploration. he said 100% of the people around donald trump, senior advisors and family members, every one questions his intelligence and fitness for office." really? this is a patent lie! this is absolutely untrue. at some point, each people on the left have to admit as the "washington post" did today when they questioned whether he got access at all under false pretenses. everyone has to question every one of the president's family. so ivanka who michael wolff said is dumb as rocks. this is not true! it's unfair. it is so screamingly inequitable

to accuse the president of being someone who lacks intelligent and fitness for office and says every one of his family agrees with me. >> you know for a fact they don't think that. >> absolutely. it's untrue. >> a lot of dishonest reporting. they let the fox into the henhouse for a long time. they share a little responsibility for this salacious report. >> one of the things he said this morning he kept waiting for someone to say why are you in this meeting? it's inconceivable to me that this happened in the first place. >> they didn't have a white house communications director. spicer's role was press secretary and communication director. it's impossible to do both well. they did a disservice to the

president. whoever decided to let him in. no one said i don't think we should have him here. maybe they didn't know and thought it was part of the show. that said, he would not have access the west wingif he was not granted it. you can't just walk up and ring the door bell. >> right. can steve bannon grant him that kind of carte blanche? >> sure. >> hanging with him, hey, buddy, what is up? >> here's another thing i don't believe. one thing michael wolff did leading up to the election wrote a couple of pieces that were flattering about president trump and saying how intelligent he was and he could pin point what the american people wanted. that's one way he got his foot in the door. i don't blame him. then writes this book. i heard a couple of things that are factully wrong. one thing about mitch mcconnell.

a report that he declined to take a meeting because he needed to get a haircut. his office said that's ridiculous. that never happened. the one thing that is a danger, he has notes and recordings and reports. if you were one of those people that thought you were talking to him off the record and you get burned in this book, you might be really cautious about saying it never happened because you would be super embarrassed. let it go and move on. >> how damaging is it, greg? >> i don't know. he said he was in trump's president for 3 hours. i think he was talking about 3 runs of the "apprentice." [laughing] this is a preferable problem to have. compare two situations. hillary had a book out telling everyone why she lost. wolff's book is telling you what happened after trump won. which book if you were donald trump would you prefer to have?

>> that's a good point. [laughing]. >> i think i would take the victory book. democrats, you are laughing at this stuff and all of this stuff you are reading about him being impullsive like a child. how does it feel to be beaten by somebody like that who has less knowledge of your candidate. your politician got beaten by a salesman from queen. that's hilarious. >> the big juicy gossip here. jesse and geraldo and i understand this. the gossip is trump is like a child. we are all that. every man has been told by his wife or wives that we are children. men want things a certain way.

who are impatient and don't have time to read. tell me what i need to know. we act like children. i am reminded of this every day. that's a compliment. like a child from the omen or exorci exorcist. >> everybody beneath you says crap about you because they are supposed to. when there is a changeover. when a team in the pre-season is under going a change in personnel because they lost and they get new people in. half of the people are just grouchy. they always end up going. other people stay. there is chaos in a change of personnel. this is all normal. he got in there and got to watch it. that was a mistake. >> that's the problem to begin with. why was he allowed this access

to walk around and listen in. overhear conversations? to me that's unbelievable that nobody said, hey, buddy, take a hike. >> i like dr. evil's glasses. >> that's your nickname for wolff? >> yes. >> what have we all learned? never cooperate with a book if you are in the middle of an administration. when i was deputy press secretary of state. karl rove was my responsibility. a reporter from a liberal magazine said he gets a bum rap and i want to do a profile piece saying he is great and super smart. i was charmed. i went to the white house communications director and said give him a shot. he said knock yourself out. i pulled out all of the stops: interviews, 3rd party back up. brunch. i did everything.

this piece ran. it was the meanest thing i have ever read in my life, and it was my fault. i have never spoken to him after. >> he's in the deep freeze. >> they seduce you and tell you everything you want to hear. they get in and it's a hatchet job. >> one thing what dana mentioned about recording it. in my opinion during the time he is in the white house i don't think he can have a recorder on him. >> on your phone? >> i know you can do it. i think this guy is a schmoozie. >> of course you can record it. >> i think you are right. >> [overlapping talking]. >> it's the worst kind of friend. tonight tell him anything. >> he is not a friend. >> i don't believe this report that just came out this afternoon. i am sure they are hearing this

but i don't believe it's true. it said that steve bannon was think about putting out a statement that disavowed the book and his quotes. the president's statement beat him to it and i don't believe he was going to do that. there were hours that lapsed between that book coming out and the presidential's statement. >> he delayed and didn't do it. that was one. things that was said. they were working on and said forget it. why not do it right away? >> that's the best we could do the next day. if there are tapes he can't say he didn't say it or make all of these comments. he knows if he said it. if this guy recorded it, the best thing you can say is the president is a great man. >> i think bannon is screwed regardless. >> could you imagine if a reporter like michael wolff was inside the clinton white house

in the '90s? with a recorder, watching the girls go in and out and what was going on in the oval office. >> those are the tapes we need. >> what was the book that just came out about the hillary clinton campaign. remember the two authors? >> "shattered." and the clinton campaign was furious. it talked about them speaking badly about each other and about the candidate. these things happen and you can get through it. >> all right. the new year got worse for hillary. stay tuned. you might take something for your heart... or joints. but do you take something for your brain. with an ingredient originally found in jellyfish, prevagen is the number one selling brain-health supplement

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pay to play scheme. uranium one is a 3rd investigation. the white house is pleased that the doj and fbi are taking this on. >> i think it's a great thing that is being looked at. we will have to wait and see what happens. there has been a lot of information out in that gives all of us cause for concern. it's important that they are finally taking a look at it. we will see what comes from it. >> in a statement the clinton foundation said time after time it's been subjected to allegations and time after time they were proven false and: jesse, your take on the three investigations and the response from the clinton team? >> the foundation has done good work, but it's shady. everybody knows it's shady. the allegation is a racketeering charge. where you exploit our power as

secretary of state to enrich yourself and your friends and skirt fund-raising laws, campaign finance laws. there are fbi agents on the ground in little rock where the foundation was founded asking tough but fair questions. i believe the clinton people are very worried about this. everybody knew what was going on. she concealed a lot of donation as secretary of state. she was supposed to tell the obama administration who was donating and how much they were donating. she had to go back and re-file years and years of taxes. hit $20 million in donations. there is something fishy there. to be fair, i do still think is politics. this is the president or his justice department leaping on the clintons because he is hitting on the russia collusion

garbage. i don't want to see hillary locked up. a lot of people probably don't agree. it seems like they are criminalizing politics with pay to play. that's politics. >> that doesn't make it legal. >> it didn't make it legal. i am sick of everybody threatening to go to jail. >> dana, what do you make of it? criticism that this is politics. you punch me and i punch you back. >> i was skeptical for similar reasons. but the former doj he was on the daily briefing show and i asked him is that a concern? he thinks the clinton foundation is on the merit. the uranium one one thing is not. i took his word if they find something they should follow it up. if i were at the white house i would not say i think this is a good thing. that's the allege allegation

that you are pushing it. just say that's the justice department. every time they talk about it looks like they are pushing the justice department to save jeff sessions. >> you have to investigate it. you can't say just let it go. we don't want to lock her up because he is a woman or because of her age. >> [laughing] >> follow the law. and the facts and do a full and thorough investigation. >> the vint clintons are shadier than michael moore's shadow. because he is big? >> [laughing]. >> got it. >> everything you say is correct. let's compare the stories a-block to b-block.

trump is not about corruption. it's about chaos. hillary is not about chaos, it's about corruption. what story is more important? obviously corporation. corruption. the trump's story is the ice cream sundae and everybody loves that and hates vegetables. it's hard to eat vegables when you had so much ice cream. i am full of scandal! >> it depend on what you dip them in. >> you dip the vegetables in the ice cream. >> that's gross. >> going over hillary clinton's emails is like calling up your prom date from high school. it is so over. >> they don't think so. >> i went to one of their conventions at the hilton.

it was the move lavish thing i had ever seen. they had rugs specially made. there is so much money spent by the foundation it seems lavish. there were never subpoenas in terms of the clinton foundation. the emails, forget about these emails already. >> what do you have in there, geraldo rivera? >> that's in the vault. >> he bleached his. >> [laughing] >> a favorite pass time of the hollywood elite but the most of the golden globes said he won't mock the president on sunday. do you believe?

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2008 and seeing it again today. this level is the worst i have ever seen. >> this is the mother of all crashes. >> huge bubbles everywhere. >> you can see it in this chart. you have to hedge now against it. >> that's right. trump claims he invented the

phrase tax cuts. that's so fake. the only thing more fake is clinton came up with the word fake. >> president trump joked to house republicans that he only likes between 30 to 40% of them. he said that all the time to his kids. >> former president obama will meet with the leaders of china and india while president trump will meet who he thinks are the leaders of china and india. >> [laughing] >> funny but so mean. so cruel. late night. talk hosts. he doesn't miss a chance to tear into president trump on his show. you would expect he would let it rib at the golden globes this weekend. the comedian is indicating he will skip the political jokes on sunday. that's what he told the hollywood reporter. i reserve the right to change my

mind. this year with everything that happened in hollywood it's more important to have the focus there and not on wadih el hage. i was in the audience of 2011. >> you are everywhere >> i know. seth myers was the host. president obama and seth myers together attacked businessman donald trump in a way that was so absolutely vicious. i am convinced that's where donald trump made up his mind to run for the white house. do you believe that hollywood or myers can refrain from attacking donald trump? >> you almost have no choice. hollywood is the sanctuary cities for sexual assault. no longer can hollywood tell us what to eat, what to drive, how to talk. because they are a city of scum!

half of the audience knew what was going on. they should have picked a woman to host the golden globes. he is close. he is a beta male. >> my god. >> no. he won't offend anybody. everybody in the audience will nod and this is a learning moment for all of us. a teachable moment for all of us in hollywood. we will all change. they all knew. >> teachable moment. is that a banned phrase? >> i did a while ago. >> he didn't re-ban it in 2018. >> interesting that you know beta males. >> i have been around a few and you married a couple! >> oh! >> [laughing] >> finally you got me. >> you have black on. >> [laughing]

>> oscars where they were complaining about the fact that peop people. does politics take away the entertainment value or is it a platform to make a point? >> you should respect the office of the presidency. people don't seem to be with donald trump. they weren't with the candidate of donald trump. he had a particularly good attitude given the fact that he is constantly made fun of. >> donald trump? >> yes, absolutely. in some of these awards shows, it comes back to bite them if they come over the top. people in different charity events tried to make personal attacks against the president and it did not work. george lopez it did. it back fired on him. you have to be very careful how you handle it and how it comes

across. >> yet, that audience is so liberal, anti-trump. it's inevitable? >> i think it will be a sly situation. he knows his audience. he won't say the joke. it will be some sort of joke with a double meaning. and followed by a pause that goes on for a beat too long until everybody gets it. they all start laughing. no one can say they made a joke about donald trump. >> can it be a funny kind of atmosphere? they had drinking games in the past. they got drunk as the show progressed. >> i might be drunk if i watch it because it won't be very good. you can't make fun of trump. you can't make harvey weinstein jokes obviously. pc-cultures. you can't make any racy jokes. they have nothing left to say. i am looking forward to the real

awards show on monday, the fake news award by donald trump at 5 p.m. tune. >> rating bonanza. >> you said hollywood was scum? >> not everybody. >> for what they are covering up? >> yes. i should pull that back. there are a lot of fine people there that are not harvey weinstein. but there are a lot of people what knew about it. i have a fantasy that harvey weinstein is driving back from jfk and his car breaking news down. he is in queens and goes into an italian restaurant and there is paul sorevino. >> where perfectionism can be hazardous to your health. that's next. i'm a fuzzy, yellow tennis ball dangling from a string

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>> welcome back. no one is perfect but the struggle to get there is causing a lot of disstress for youlth in america according to new research. perfectionism is making people sick impacting their ability to succeed in their careers. part is new social media pressure. they fail to measure up to their peers and harsh economic conditions and the need to please demanding patients. every year i write a column for millennials and i will do a facebook question and answer tomorrow at 2 o'clock. why wait for that when you can get it here. jesse, you are the closest to the millennial. >> i understand why the pursuit of perfection can be worrisome.

when you take the selfies it takes 1,000 takes to get a good one. >> you perfected the angle? >> yes, high and wide. when you post it, everybody else on intstagram looks perfect because they have the filters. they take hours to do. it you feel depressed. don't go on the social media websites day after day. >> they go 100 times a day. >> way too much. don't just chase the job for the cash. do what you like and you will like what you do. it's cheesy but true. then when you have the job, don't expect to be promoted within the first 6 months. >> that was in this article. after 8 months they get restless and they feel they are not appreciated and want to quit. >> this stories comes up in every generation in the '60s and 70s. i think it skipped the '80s. the '90s was a grudge movement.

everybody was sad and wearing flannel. outdoor plaid. >> [laughing] >> that's awesome. this is the expected unease when you are young. it happens now because you have more leisure time. people marry later. you are matching yourself up against a lot of people out. there you are getting this mixed up idea that they are doing better than you are. but they really aren't. a lot of people who put stuff on social media do it because they are not doing well. look at me, i am doing okay. when , in fact they are sad. life is better now than in the history of the world. you living longer. you can move wherever you want.

four hours you could in another country. you can change your name. you can change your sex. you have everything. >> what are you waiting for? >> i don't know. >> [laughing] >> 3rd husband? >> fatalism is contagious. you don't want to indulge people feeling gloomy. how many suicide were caused by romeo and juliette? >> geraldo rivera, does this drive you crazy? >> with the two millennials. >> and the z. >> i think jesse is right. i believe that social media has really upped the ante. it's like the kids, this one is wearing this. this one went to this place on vacation. look how happy always is. how stylish. do i measure up?

i really worry particularly about the 12 years old, it's not about that. parenting is more important now than ever and making the kids put the screens down. you have to put that down. when i come into the room, there has to be a really good reason why she is doing that? why? >> if somebody is not following me. kimberly, you have a health approach to social media. >> thank you very much. >> you do not care. >> i don't care! people will write stuff and say stuff. what are you going to do? i feel happy, confident, secure in myself. that's it. it's there. i participate. i have a lot of followers. i appreciate them following. this are people who are nice and gracious and there are people who have something wrong with themselves and they want to be mean spirited. i feel sorry for them.

i would say develop your own interests and look within for happiness. don't make it how many dollars i have or how many friend or how many people are texting me back. you are chasing them down a rabbit hole. it's not healthy. >> but we want them to follow-up. >> this is not about a generation. this is a different story. we talk about how we are worried about artificial intelligence. we are embracing this. we are all -- >> guess what? facebook friday is coming right up.

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that's ridiculous. well, i happen to know some people. do they listen? what? they're amazing listeners. nice. guidance from professionals who take their time to get to know you.

>> facebook friday the first one of the year. let's begin. i can hear you talking to me. question from cathy. there is a good question. give your life the title of a blockbuster motive. >> oh, i know, kimberly. >> you give me mine? >> wonder woman. >> yeah! >> geraldo rivera would be i wonder where are the women?

>> that's right. >> interesting. you are puerto ricoan. >> a small detail. >> and 10 percent native-american. >> go to ancestry.com. >> waters world. the biggest box office bomb of all time. >> i will do love actually. >> yay! >> i love it. i want to lock you in a room and make you watch it. >> no, i would slit my wrists. >> i want to lock you in a room. [laughing] >> small wonder. >> oh, that's cute. >> tiny wonder. >> geraldo rivera? this is a really good question. what is the one major thing that you would like to pursue once

you retire? geraldo rivera? >> i want to take my boat from new york up to the hudson river and the thousand islands and the saint lawrence river into the great lakes and explore the great interior of the united states. >> he thought about this. >> i would like to come on that boat. >> [laughing]y. >> would like to house sit when he is gone. >> you have to get on there. >> [laughing] >> i know that kimberly will never retire. >> do you know that? i think it's inconceivable. >> the battery power is forever. >> yes. i don't know. i don't know what retirement would look like. what i think of when i retire, i think of what other job i would want. >> me too. >> i want to go work in africa.

like an ambassador to tanzania if it's still on the list. >> when i retire, i want to do absolutely nothing charitable. >> you are the grinch. >> i want to see how long i can lie in bed and eat the same sandwich when i die. when they find me, i want to be surrounded by wrappers. they go where is he? all right. jesse, sorry, you didn't answer. >> he said. >> sailing around the world with geraldo. >> the producer said you didn't answer. >> he can watching another show. >> it's waters world with johnny depp. >> this is a thought experiment from joan.

you are 25 years old, what job would you have when you are 1880? >> a school teacher. >> interesting. >> sexist. >> realistic. >> that's true. >> 1880. geraldo rivera, you were 14. >> that was the dawn of the guilded age. a lot of money here in manhattan. some business to service people with that new cash. >> interesting. >> jesse? >> i am working on a railroad. wasn't that the dawn of the railroad industry? >> yes. >> your mom will tell you that's dumb. >> and school teacher is the best thing. >> everybody says that. >> i would not be in this country. i would be some sort of royalty somewhere. don't you think?

>> in 1880, geraldo paints the pictures. i would be one of the sinister drunks that hang out under the street lamp and smoke cigarettes and wait until somebody lives the bar at night. >> like every friday night in hell's kitchen. >> like getting to new york. i have a little pocket of gold. just like a little leprechaun. >> all right. one more thing is up next. liberty mutual stood with me when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night, so he got home safe. yeah, my dad says our insurance doesn't have that. what?! you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance.

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>> ♪ >> ♪ >> okay. one more thing. i will go first. we are debuting a new segment on water's world. mug shot mania. here's a sneak peek. >> this guy is no dawson. arrested in 2017 for charging at his son with a hatchet. jimmy, this guy came at you with a hatchet, i don't know if i would be more scared of the hatchet or the face. >> the face is the weapon. oh my god. when i looked at this, he looks at what happens when you let a kid draw you. >> that's saturday 8 o'clock. kimberly guilfoyle? >> looking for ways to improve ourselves.

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it will be repeating but watch can any way. time for this. >> greg's comuter news. a massive snow storm going on. the best way to get around hire an australian shepherd. this dog enjoys sledding on his own. there you go. i think everyone has seen it. >> i have not. >> it's incredible. >> good form. >> takes it all the way back. >> that's funny. >> i can't do that. >> that's pretty good. >> one philadelphia father figured out the best way to measure his child's growth. a cheese steak. jesse would like this. he created a scale to move

measure him. lucas is not into cheese stakes. he said wrapped that up are a warm and cuddly but when you unwrap them expect a huge mess. >> and know when one you are eating. >> gerald oh? >> i won't do the one more thing. there is a fox news alert. the first criminal referral from the senate. guess who has been referred to the department of justice? christopher steele the author of the dossier. the first criminal referral. they have reason to believe that steele lied to the feds. this is a major development. here, how ironic with all of the russia-gate. who is the first criminal

referral from the senate? >> geraldo, i like your one more thing. >> that's it for us today. come back and see us on monday. have a great weekend. "special report" up next. bret baier over to you. >> bret: thanks. the market close out the week on another record high. president heads to camp david on the day a book on his administration hits store shelves and hillary clinton back in the cross hairs of a federal investigation. this is "special report." >> ♪ i am bret baier. even with the new investigation with a new book about trump. markets closed out the day on an all-time high again. the u.s. economy added