the fence. those dogs, keep the holes plugged up. 2456r7x for joining us, i'm dana perino, here's shep. >> shepard: it's noon on the west coast, 3:00 at the white house, where president trump is set to hold a joint news conference with a fellow world leader. he will be answering questions. reporters can ask about topics including the russia investigation and immigration. this comes after a federal judge blocks president trump's plan to end the dreamers program which protects hundreds of thousands of immigrants who came into this country when they were childern but without documents. the president saying the decision is proof that our court system is broken and unfair. what the white house do now? republicans rolling out a new immigration plan today with details on everything from the visa lottery to the border wall. let's get to it.

>> shepherd smith reporting live from the fox newsdesk. >> shepard: a live look now, at the white house. we're waiting for president trump to hold a news offense with the prime minister of norway. we expect president trump will take questions, and will do so shortly. we'll bring it to you as it begins. this comes as the white house is firing back after a federal judge temporarily blocked the president's decision to end so the-called dreamers program. the hundreds of thousands of imgrnts whose parents brought them to the u.s. as children without documents. president trump ended the program in september. and he gave congress until march to come up with a replacement. the judge ruled that ending the program could cause serious, irreparable harm to young immigrants. the white house calling the judge's decision outrageous. the hulg came after just -- i should say hours after yesterday's rare on-camera negotiation of sorts over

immigration, the president today calling his meeting with lawmakers from both parties tremendous. >> president trump: we agreed to pursue four major areas of reform. securing our border including of course the wall, which has always been included, never changed. ending chain migration, cancelling the visa lottery, i a dressing the status of the daca population. >> shepard: the dockca population, the dreamers. the president announced he'll sign a bill to extend that program, the one that protects them. he's open to handling immigration in two phases he says. daca and? sort of border security measures first. and then he suggested maybe an hour later, begin comprehensive immigration reform. something that has conservatives in quite a tizzy. some of them. and he still insists on a wall. not a complete 2,000 mile wall as he said it, but pieces and

parts of a wall, pieces and parts of electronic security, and human security, along at least part border wall in mexico. yesterday he told lawmakers, i quote now, we don't need wall where you have rivers and mountains and everything else protecting it, unquote. he kwaeded, we do need a wall for a fairly good portion. the senate ma norpt leader chuck schumer called the meeting encouraging but said people are rightly skeptical a bill to protect dreamers might never happen. >> we cannot wait, we can't tolerate delay. delay is a tactic employed by those who do not wish to see a deal. let me just say, promises that may be in the future we'll do it, particularly on immigration, have fannished by the -- varnished by the wayside. >> shepard: the president says that congress should consider going back to earmarks. we reported on this yesterday. earmarks with a provision

lawmakers tack on to spending bills to pay for projects in their home state. that whole "i scratch your back, you scratch my back" is how congress works situation, that ended in 2011. house republicans banned it then saying it corrupts lawmakers and encourages them to support bad bills. they called it pork barrel politics. critics say earmarks help give washington its reputation as a swamp which the president has promised to drain. but the president says earmarks might help congress actually get things done. which they would. but conservatives were against that. chief white house correspondent john roberts live on the north lawn. >> good afternoon. you know, this talk about earmarks, trying to figure it where it came from, did somebody put the bug in the president's ear this would be a good thing to talk about at this meeting. i wasn't able to come up with any one particular kwvergs that got him on to the earmark idea. it was told to me meetings previous to this parent weekend

where he huddled with members of the congressional leadership that he had talked about earmarks, probably somebody suggested back in the day when is we had earmarks we worked together more than we do now. maybe the president just picked up on that. to the court action that happened last night, on the president's decision to rescind the daca program. it was the federal district judge out of san francisco, william alsop who blocked last night the president's action to get rid of daca by march 5. the president clearly unhappy, taking to twipt they are morning, to say, quote, it just shows everyone how broken and unfair our court system is when the opposing snide a case such as daca runs to the ninth circuit and almost always wins before being reversed by a higher court. alsop is a federal district judge but in the ninth circuit jurisdiction. a lot of people the president says, take cases there they know they'll get a favorable ruling, although often overturned by the supreme court. the president said what was tame

in comparison to the press secretary, saying, quote, we find this decision to be outrageous, especially in liement of the president's successful bipartisan meeting with house and senate members at the white house on the same day. an issue of this magnitude must go through the normal legislative process. there is agreement in the house and senate that something needs to be done about the dreamers, the judge got some support in the form of vermont senator patrick leahy. >> the president should have worked with congress, he should have found a permanent legislative solution of keeping daca protections in place. i believe he determined the program under false pretensions, yielding to voices in his administration. >> the president contends it was unconstitutional for president obama in 2010 to make an executive dre sigs about the dreamers, he said immigration has to be done by congress which is why the president threw back to congress on september 5.

yesterday, shep, we were talking about the extraordinary demonstration of democracy where the president allowed cameras to stay in the room for almost an entire meeting between himself and 22 members of congress. the president today meeting with his cabinet said he got high marks for doing that. listen here. >> president trump: my performance, some of them called it a performance, i consider it work. but got great reviews by everybody other than two networks who were phenomenal for about two hours. then after that they were called by their boards to say, oh, wait a minute. and it's unfortunately a lot of those anchors sent us letters saying it was one of the greatest meetings they have ever witnessed. >> wasn't really in the form of letters, it was more tweets and on-air comments. most of them remarking on the extraordinary scene that we saw yesterday of having the meeting opened up to cameras for the most part. >> shepard: thanks.

also today, president trump says his administration is looking at libel laws. he said they're a sham and a disgrace. this comes after the controversial new book from author michael wolff who had inside access to the white house, given inside access by the president. wolf's book offers a negative account of the trump administration and portrays the president as unengaged and unfit to be commander in chief. the president has called the book a work of fiction. back to john roberts at the white house, he can look at the law but when he looked at it it won't change, he can't change the laws, right? >> no, it's difficult to do that. okay vowsly he has to get congress onboard to do it. this is something, shep, the president has been talking about for a long time now. back during the campaign, a lot of the stories surfaced, he said people can say anything they want about anybody without any kind of resource the part of the person he believes has been damaged. he talked about it a little bit more at the cabinet meeting. listen to what he said.

>> president trump: we are going to take a strong look at our country's libel laws so that when somebody says something that is false and defamatory about some one that person will have meaningful recourse in our courts. if somebody says something that is totally false, knowingly false, that the person that has been abused, defamed, libelled, will have meaningful recourse. >> in addition to the president believing that our current libel laws are a sham and disgrace, as you pointed out, shep, he said they do not represent american values or american fairness. but as you pointed out, president can't do anything about this by himself. he needs to get congress onboard. that no doubt will be a heavy lift. >> shepard: more than. that john roberts at the white house. for clarity, we ee in the

position to report facts, all of that about looible laws, a word salad of nothingness. none of that means anything. except look here. he couldn't change the libel laws if he wanted to change the libel laws, couldn't change them if he got congress in there. john bussey is here from the "wall street journal." it's state laws, it's two things. >> it's interesting. not a sham, it's not a disgrace. our libel laws are here to protect and they do a pretty effective job of that speaking from a journalistic standpoint. we're very observant what has to be done not to libel some one. there are state laws of the constitution's first amendment, is what it's all about.

>> shepard: good afternoon from fox news in new york. on fox televisions, fox news channel on satellite and cable. the president of the united states is holding a joint news conference with the president -- the prime minister of norway, and it has begun early. let's listen. >> president trump: brave, treacherous seas and courageous misses of exploration. centuries later during the second world war, brave norwegians escaped occupied norway to fight alongside of americans and the allies including on the beaches of normandy in 1944. our friendship builds on this proud and noble history and is rooted in our commitment to confront the problems of today with that same confidence and same determination. i think it might even be greater determination. we've just concluded a series of discussions on how we can work together to promote a future of security and world prosperity

and also a great future for our respective countries working together. the prime minister and i are both committed to strengthening the nato alliance. norway has made contributions to the nato-led mission in afghanistan where we are doing very well. it's been turned around. as well as to nato and nato's enhanced forward presence in poland, and the baltic states. i want to thank the prime minister and the norwegian people for their participation in these efforts. i encourage norway to follow through on its commitment to meet the 2% of gdp defense spending obligation so that together we can confront the full range of threats facing our nation. and i believe norway will get there quite soon. norway is also a vital and valued member of the campaign to defeat isis.

because of us, isis has now lost almost 100% of the territory it previously held. not so long ago in iraq and syria. we're grateful for norway's civilian assistance efforts and generous humanitarian aid to the region. they've been out there and really doing an incredible job. i'm also pleased to share that the economic ties between our two countries are robust and growing. the united states currently has a trade surplus which is shocking. do you believe i'm saying we have a surplus? there aren't too many, you have to go back and check your people. but we're getting more and more surpluses all over the world, i will say. that i told that to the prime minister. but our two countries are robust and growing. the united states currently has a large contingent of products

that we sell, and back and forth with norway, and one of the big products of course is our military equipment. i want to thank the people of norway for their commitment to fair and precip row cal trade -- reciprocal trade, a word you'll hear coming from this administration and should have come from other administrations before we, reciprocal trade which benefits us all. free nations are stronger when the trade is fair and trade has not been overly fair with the united states. but we've had that great relationship. with norway. but remember the word "reciprocal "request. in november we started cliferg the first f-52s and f-35 fighter jets. we have total of 52 and they delivered a number of them already, a little ahead of schedule. it's a $10 billion order. norway also invests about one-third of its sovereign wealth in american businesses,

supporting hundreds of thousands of american jobs. they're very big vefors in ouring -- investors in our stock market and the prime minister thanked me very much. their market, you have done very well with your investments in the united states. right? thank you. norway's commitment to mutually beneficial commerce is a model for other nations and it really is. amazing country. i'll look forward to forging a stronger economic relationship between the united states and norway, growing this record of success, with even more investment and more jobs and more job creation. we're also proud of our increasing cooperation on health and health security. and also on bio-defense. very important to both countries. i commend prime minister solberg's ability for vaccine development and disease prevention. we can save many, many lives.

we're working, in some cases together, on cures to many ailments. prime minister solberg thank you for joining us at the white house. for decades, norwegians and americans have stood side by side against common threats to our freedom, our security, and to our values. together we have fought against fascism and communism and terrorism and we face threats always together, we're partners. our has advanced peace, cooperation and human dig yipt throughout the world. we remain united on shared challenges, to seize new opportunities, and to build a bright and beautiful future for our countries, our people, our children, and i think we're doing very well working together. we have a new hive found friendship. i want to thank you and god bless you. thank you very much. >> thank you.

thank you, mr. president, and thank you for your generous welcome. it is a great honor to be here at the white house. the relationship between our two countries is strong and has very deep roots. there are millions of u.s. citizens who proudly call themselves norwegian-americans. our norwegian constitution, second oldest in the world that, is still in force, was inspired by american ideals. and we have a long and continued history of serving shoulder-to-shoulder on battlefields around the world. the u.s. remains our most important ally, a major trade partner, and close friend. today, we have discussed issues so far of importance, for our relationship. how we can keep our countries safe. how we can grow our economies. how we can further the cooperation in areas of mutual interests. and i have assured president

trump that norway remains lie and a friend you can count on in the future. we are already number two in nato after the u.s. in terms of defense spending per capita and we are making significant investments to further strengthen our defense. this includes as the president said, some big buys from american industry. maritime patrol, f-235 aircraft, largest single public investment from lockheed martin. but also we are buying new submarines and investments in intelligence capabilities and army assets. which is important also for our job. american economy is doing well and our economic relations are flourishing. that's to the benefit of both countries. as we discussed in our meeting for small country like norway, it's important for our ability to trade and to protect the

border that we have fair trade and trade assistance also. we think it's important for our future. norwegian investments and norwegian companies support close to half a million jobs in the united states. and through our government pension fund, sub stngs revenues from our oil sectors are being invested in u.s. assets. the u.s. has impressive business community. and i have commanded a leading role. also in the economy, for example, by the fact that one of the big areas we are now importing in norway is electrical cars from tesla. norway is combatting climate change, it is an important issue for us, we are committed to the paris agreements. but it leads to businesses and leads to american businesses also, selling cars in norway. at the same time, the green economy is an area where we teach tremendous business and

economic opportunities in the future. and finally, i think it's important to say that we also are discussing some of the big difficult issues, for example the development -- i hope and think we can find a new future. it's important that we are all working together to find solutions in north korea, afghanistan, syria, and iraq. since december 11, 2001, norway has contributed to a range of mission and operations including the fight against isis. and emi have assured the thapt we remain unwaivering in our commitment to the fight against terrorism all over the world. i am looking forward to future cooperation, mr. president, and thank you for meeting. >> president trump: okay. some questions. how about sara westwood. where is sara? thank you. washington examiner.

>> thank you mr. president. yesterday in the meeting with lawmakers you said that you would be open to signing just about any immigration deal that that bipartisan group of lawmakers sent to you. >> president trump: right. >> would you be willing to sign an immigration deal that ultimately does not include funding for the border wall or would that be a red line for you? pvment no, no, no. that will include the wall. we need the wall for security. we need the wall for safety. we need the wall for stopping the drugs from pouring in. i would imagine that the people in the room both democrat and republican, i really believe they're going to come up with a solution to the daca problem which has been going on for a long time. and maybe beyond that immigration as a whole. but any solution has to include the wall. without the wall it all doesn't work. you could look at other instances, look at israel, they put up the wall, they solved a major problem. we need the wall, we have to have the wall for security purposes. security is number one. so the answer is of to have the wall. thank you.

please. >> can i call on this -- from the norwegian broadcasting. >> mr. president, prime minister, recently an american general, robert neller, told his marines based in norway there's a war coming, the biggest fight. mr. president, how imminent is that big war? and where e will it take place? >> president trump: when you say the big war, you are saying what? >> it was an american general, robert neller, visited the norwegian -- >> president trump: right. >> marine base in norway. he said there's a big war coming. >> president trump: maybe he knows something i don't know. okay? [chuckling] i would say this, we have a very, very powerful military, we're getting more powerful by the month, by the day.

we're ordering a lot of the equipment that you're ordering, we're ordering it but in hardger amounts to -- larger amounts to put it mildly. we're building up our military to a point we've never been before. we also were very much weakened over the last long period of time. but not with me. no, i don't expect. that i think we're going to have, because of strength, weighs through strength. i think we're going to have a long period of peace. i hope we do. we have certainly problems with north korea but a lot of good talks going on, a lot of good energy, i see a lot of good energy, i like it. what i'm seeing, i spoke this morning with, as you know, with the president, president moon of south korea. he had some really great meetings, his representatives had a great, great meeting. and i had some very good feedback from that. hopefully a lot of good things work out. no, i think that we will have peace through strength. our military will be stronger than it ever was in a short

period of time. and that's my opinion. that's not the general's opinion. but i think my opinion counts more right now. thank you. >> maybe i add that the reason why we are so happy that we have u.s. marines training in norway, that's part of the deterrent strategy that makes sure that we don't have a war in the future. >> president trump: did you have a question, sara, did you have a question for the prime minister? >> i did, yes, thank you. madam prime minister, president trump has said that the investigation into russian collusion makes our country, quote, look very bad. he said the morning, quote, the world is laughing at our stupidity. my question to you is, are you laughing at the russian investigation? >> i think that it's up to every political system in the country to scrutinize and discuss their own political agenda in their countries. i respect that very much. and in is an issue for american politics. i would just like to say that it

has impacted also in europe, i think all european countries who have had elections this year, have been looking in to will there be any type of tampering. we concluded after our election we could not find any proof of anyone trying to put an emphasis on that, from countries outside norway. i think it was very norwegian election with norwegian participants. >> president trump: i will say this, there is collusion but it's really with the democrats and the russians, far more than it is with the republicans and the russians. so the witch hunt continues. john, go ahead. >> thank you mr. president. i also have a question for the prime minister, but if i can address the president first. sara brought up the russia investigation. your legal team, associations have told us, believe that in the next few weeks the special counsel, robert mueller, will ask for some sort of interview

with you, and your legal team believes is part of wrapping up his investigation. are you open to meeting with him? would you be willing to meet with him, without condition? or would you demand that a strict settle of parameters be placed around any encounter between you and the special counsel? >> president trump: well, again, there has been no collusion between the trump campaign and russians or trump and russians. no collusion. when i watch you interviewing all of the people leaving their committees, the democrats are all running for office and they're trying to say this, but bottom line, they say there's no collusion. there is no collusion. when you talk about interviews, hillary clinton had an interview where she wasn't sworn in, she wasn't given the oath, they didn't take notes, they didn't record, and it was done on the fourth of july weekend. that's, perhaps, ridiculous and a lot of people looked upon that as being a very serious breach and it really was.

but, again, i'll speak to attorneys, i can only say this, there was absolutely no collusion. everybody knows it. every committee, i've been in office now for 11 months. for 11 months, they've had this phony cloud over this administration, over our government of the and it has hurt our government. it does hurt our government of it's democrat hoax that was brought up as an excuse, for losing an election, that frankly the democrats should have won because they have such a tremendous advantage in the electoral college. it was brought up for that reason. it has been determined there is no collusion and by virtually everybody. so we'll see what happens. >> would you be open to -- >> president trump: we'll see what happens. certainly i'll see what happens. when they have no collusion, and nobody has found any collusion, at any level, it seems unlikely that you would even have an interview. >> madam prime minister, norway shares a small but strategic border with russia. president trump has said it's

better to work with vladimir putin if possible than against him. where do you come down on that idea, belter to work with to you putin and not work with him? >> russia is an important player in the world, i don't think you can not work with and talk to. on the other hand, it's important to say that we have a line with all of the sanctions, as the european union has done, connected to nato and interconnected to nafta, we have also suffered some economic difficulties, in some areas. based on those sanctions. but on the other hand, we have a very good relationship with russia over that border area. where we do have very much movement of people, free movement, people moving to and from. we have very large corporation on sustainable fisheries in this area, the biggest cod area in the world, sustainable resource, and we do patrol it, we work

together. we think it's important to do two things at the same time. yes, the international law is clear, there was a break of that through the annexation of crimea and the situation in the ukraine and we stand by all of our allies for that. at the same time as a neighboring country we do day-to-day work on things we have to solve for the people and the economic activity that is in that area. which is a fragile area for the whole world. >> president trump: to add to the answer, i think it is much better to work with russia. it's very much better having to do with north korea where we have a problem that should have never been my problem, should have been solved many years ago when it was much less dangerous. but it was given to me along with a big mess of other things. but imsay this, i am -- i will say this, i am for massive oil and gas and everything else and a lot of energy. putin can't love that. i'm for the strongest military that the united states ever had,

putin can't love that. hillary was not for a strong military and hillary, my opponent, was for wind mills and she was for other types of energy that don't have the same capacities at this moment certainly. so i just want to say that it's lot better to work with other countries. we're working with china, north korea, we're working with various other countries. i think we're doing very well. we had a great talk as you know, and as you reported. we had a great talk this morning with president moon. and i think a lot of good things are happening. we're going to see what happens. working with other countries, whether it's russia or china or india or any of the countries that surround this world, and encompass this world that,'s a good thing, john, that's not a bad thing. that's a very good thing. okay, go ahead. >> mr. president, prime minister, norway strongly supports the paris agreement and has expressed regret that you

have decided to leave it. what could persuade you to remain? and what kind of common ground did you find in your talks today on this topic? >> president trump: well it wasn't a major topic i must tell you. we talked about other things including mostly trade. but i will say that the paris agreement as drawn and as we signed was very unfair to the united states. it put great penalties on us, it made it very difficult for us to deal in terms of business. it took away a lot of our asset values. we are a country rich in gas and coal and oil and other things. there was a tremendous penalty for using it. it hurt our businesses. according to some estimates we would have had to close businesses to qualify by 2025. whereas as an example china, by 2030, they don't kick in until 2030. russia, some place in the mid

190s, was -- 1990s, that was a dirty standard for the environment. it treated the united states very unfairly and is frankly an agreement i have no problem with but i had a problem with the agreement they signed. as usual, they made a bad deal. so we could conceivably go back n but we're very strong on the environment. i feel very strongly about the environment. our e.p.a. and our e.p.a. commissioners are very, very powerful in the sense that they want to have clean water, clean air, but we also want businesses that can compete. and the paris accord really would have taken away our competitive edge. and we're not going to let that happen. i'm not going to let it happen. >> i would like to add, there are opportunities in this, as we talked about, during this -- because we have strict regulations to reach our paris targets.

that means that we have very strong policies for environmental friendly and climate friendly technologies. in which, it is part of why the united states now have a surplus in the economy towards norway. never miss a good opportunity, with good environmental points. >> president trump: one of the great assets of norway is a thing called water. they have tremendous hydro power. tremendous. most of your energy, electricity, is produced by hydro. i wish we'd do some of that. but hydropower is fantastic. it's a great asset that you have. thank you very much. great honor, thank you. >> thank you. [inaudible] >> president trump: thank you very much. >> shepard: president of the united states and the prime minister of norway wrapping up a joint news conference. coverage continues on fox news channel on satellite and cable. those of on you fox network and my local stations, we'll return

you to your regular programming. i'm shepherd smith, fox news, new york. >> shepard: continuing on fox news connell, across the country and around the world, the president calling the russia investigation a democratic hoax. it is not. fox news has been reporting and will continue to report the two people have pleaded guilty, mike flynn, former national security advisor, guilty of lying to the fbi about matters russia. george papadopolos, guilty of lying about people from the russian government. paul manafort the campaign chairman, rick gates indicted and the investigation continues purportedly into trump team tees to russians and potential money laundering and the rest. john bussey, associate editor of the "wall street journal" can which this network shares common ownership. when we talked about this, interest is a bit bachling that

he's coming off a -- baffling that he's coming off a good day as he mentioned himself, his performance was brilliant and some anchors sent him letters. >> yesterday. >> shepard: right. he was riding this wave of goodness and inclusiveness. and now, he blew it all up. >> well, he turns it back to the story that we wants people not to be paying attention to. >> shepard: he did it himself with his tweet. >> tweets this morning, about the dossier, and interview related to the dossier being released by dianne feinstein, criticizing her if very strong terms, after yesterday being across the table from her and sort of showing a very nice sort of bipartisan moment that's rare in washington. talking about the needs that our libel laws are a sham and disgrace and need to be rewritten because there's a book that's out and it is criticizing him and calling him mentally unstable and he's angry about this. buy his own deeds, sort of turning the conversation back to the topics that yesterday he was very successful and getting the

press coverage and the public mind set off of. >> shepard: on some level with some quarters, it works for him. my team, we have this twitter thing. and the people are, those who are with him no matter what, he should change the libel laws, the libel laws are horrible. he can't. he's not a dictator, he's not a king, he can't change the libel laws. >> yeah, yeah. preposterous. the libel laws are set by 50 states and the first amendment of the constitution f you change the libel laws you have to get congress to change the first amendment. not only that, they're not a disgrace and a shame, they're very effective in protecting people who are written about and also those who write about them providing guidelines that you have to follow. for somebody to libel the president, they have to have a false hood. but there has to be a reckless discharge. >> and mall las aforethought. >> there are rules.

even in this press conference, the question from roberts, are you going to sit down with mueller for an interview that apparently the fbi is seeking with you. >> shepard: in other words are you going to cooperate with the investigation into the meddling that you say is a hoax f it's hoax won't you be cooperating. he said? >> well, his comments were, virtually everybody agrees that there was no collusion. well, that's just not true. >> shepard: absolutely untrue. >> we have an investigation june going. we don't know whether there was. we'll find out eventually. maybe there wasn't, maybe there was. from the investigators. but, again, sort of churning over the issue, calling it a hoax rather than sort of answering the question. ultimately the answer to the question was, we'll see. but i don't think there is reason for an interview, he said, because there was no collusion. >> shepard: it was hoax. a democratic hoax. >> we don't know what the answer to the question is. i think if you were president, with much inclination to have the transparency that yesterday revealed, really open

discussing -- open discussion between disagreeing parties, very civil. at times quite charming. >> shepard: it was. >> if you wanted to show that transparency, you say you know something, i want to get to the bottom of this, just like everybody else. of course they'll talk to the fbi. there will be parameters on that. because i'm president. and i don't want to divulge certain types of fox. in other words you walk down that road. >> shepard: excuse me, i have a touch of the flu. [coughing] it would be easy to answer the question in a way that was fairly truthful, and not get yourself in any trouble. and we're cooperating, we've -- just say what his people are saying, we've been cooperating from the beginning, we will continue to cooperate, we want to know what the russians have done to our system. he never says that. >> then move on to how cool it is we're selling more fighter jets to norway, that's creating jobs in the united states. in other words, turn it back. >> shepard: our new friends. >> right. turn it back to the positive story. there's momentum behind this

discussion that happened yesterday on daca. >> shepard: great momentum. >> schumer is talking positively about it, the republicans talking positively about it, a lot depends on it. the spending bill is in sort of in sort of temporary hold because they want to make traction on daca first. traction was shown yesterday. at least positives that the president can convey. >> shepard: he was doing great with dianne feinstein of california yesterday, the democrat of california, back and forth. give and take. then dianne feinstein releases the trips of the testimony of the -- transcripts of the former "wall street journal" reporter, gps, produced the dasier that we know was produced for republicans, a republican website at opposition research against president trump until they released president trump was going to be the republican nominee. then the democrats started funding it. and we learned a lot. none of it was very good for the president.

and he just sort of threw dianne feinstein under the bus. >> don't tweet. you have a lot of momentum from yesterday. it's actually substantive issues that are dealing with immigration, that are dealing ultimately with spending programs, the democrats have held back agreement on because they're waiting to use daca as leverage. you have all of that momentum, positive stuff, keep the story on productive things that washington can do, in governing the united states. >> shepard: john roberts tried to get to the bottom of are you going to cooperate. john, it was forthright, honest, straight forward question. >> it was. and i specifically asked it like that, shep, i know that the president's legal team has been going back and forth with the special counsel's office about the potential for a request for an interview of the president and what they believe will be the closing weeks of this investigation. they have been talking about setting strict parameters for what might be discussed if the president were to sit down for

some sort of deposition or some sort of inquiry by the special counsel's office, which is why i said, first of all, will you be willing to sit down with him. would you be willing to sit down with him without condition. or would you want to stipulate there is a defined set of parameters. there's also been an interesting evolution as well, what the president has been saying about this, when he was first asked a number of months ago, if he would do an interview with robert mueller. he said yes. over the weekend at camp caved, he was -- camp david he was asked about it, but he said there was no collusion 2340shgs crime. since then we've learned that his legal team believes that mueller will ask for an interview. why i asked the question of the president exactly the same way. interesting to point out his reference to hillary clinton's interview with the fbi. this is not just by happenstance. there were a very defined set of parameters for that interview with hillary clinton, where there were no notes taken no, transcript of it, no reporting of that that was done. the president believes if he

sits down with robert mueller, that that should be sort of a precedent for any interview in the future. it's also interesting, shep, again he went back to the idea of no collusion, no crime, and therefore why should there be an interview. which, again, when you look at the evolution of that, the president saying yes and yeah and today. i don't see any reason why there should be an interview. it sounds like he's a little less eager to sit down with the special counsel now than he was when he was first asked about it no more than six months ago. >> shepard: makes since, john bussey, if you misstate a fact, to be nice, if you misstate a fact and you're not under oath, that's one of the things he could ask for, not being recorded, it's one thing. if you're under oath, it's pretty obviously perjury. then that's impeachable. >> yeah. there's that, and i think probably no matter what happens, the rulemaking before going into the room. it's the president talking to the fbi.

and the fbi will have its own, at least oral records, of this. this is tricky territory. for a president who has had difficulties kind of on the truth side of things. in general and in similar conversations in the past, legal conversations. and it gets back to this whole notion of attacking, aknack tacking the investigation, attacking the courts for having ruled on this injunction of holding back. implementation of his daca rules. the court yesterday, talking about the broken court system. and he said even about the lubl law, you can't say things that are false or knowingly false and smile as money pours into the bank. he's done that. you lose your credibility in being able to criticize other people for doing the same. >> shepard: john bussey from "wall street journal," and john roberts live at the white house. thank you both. the president, again, blashlted senator dianne feinstein as i mentioned for releasing some would say leaking, in washington they leak stuff all the time. it's not like they haven't been

releasing bits and parts before. it's just all out there now. transparent as she put it. the president is not happy. the president's complaint, her response, and what did the testimony reveal coming up.

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journal" reporter, told the committee thes toier is not a if a bring -- the dossier is not a hoax. >> the chairman of the senate judiciary committee said dianne feinstein's decision to release the glenn simpson transcript is a breach of trust that could derail efforts to secure testimony from jared curveball nesh, the president's son-in-law. -- jared kushner. >> they would have been released anyway, but i think it does create some problems. for instance when you're getting people to voluntarily come to you, it may make a lot of people a little more reserved about whether or not they want to cooperate. >> senator grassley walls asked but did not comment on the president's feet calling feinstein names. on the senate floor, democrats praised feinstein for -- >> advancing the american people's right and need to know

the full truth. i want to applaud senator feinstein's leadership in using her proper authority as the ranking member to serve this vital public interest. >> also, today, the president's long-time personal attorney, michael cohen, is seeking more than $100 million in damages suing fusion gps who commissioned the dossier as well as budsfeed who published the memos online a year ago today. on twitter, cohen said enough is enough of the at stake, at russian dossier. the former stay steele who was paid by fusion gps was a known quantity to the fbi having done sensitive projects in the past and credible according to the nation's former top spy. >> chris steele was regarded as a competent professional, dedicated professional. it speaks to his instincts, professional instincts when he

grew concerned about what he was learning, that he first apparently reported this to his own government, as well as to the fbi. >> the white house has accused simpson and fusion gps of deeg democratic linked, claiming it took money from moscow. simpson says he has a wide variety of clients including republicans, one criticism fusion uses law firms to shield their financial transactions. >> shepard: thanks. we're watching developments on capitol hill, republicans and democrats are coming together to see if they can work on a deal on immigration, next. eight hundred dollars when we switched our auto and home insurance. with liberty, we could afford a real babysitter instead of your brother. hey. oh. that's my robe. is it? you could save seven hundred eighty two dollars when liberty stands with you. liberty mutual insurance.

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parties are meeting today to talk about immigration and spending. this after the discussions at the cabinet room at the white house as president trump skuts have discussed issues with republicans and democrats yesterday. mike emmanuel is live on capitol hill this afternoon a new immigration proposal from house republicans, correct? >> well, that's right. it would do a lot more than just addressing the young people who were brought to this country by their parents. it's from four house republicans. they've been talking about their proposal this hour. the house majority leader gave us a bit of a preview of their

plan short time ago. >> the bill by chairman goodlatte goes further, deals with sanctuary cities which we passed, kate's law which we passed off this floor. then it goes into also about guesswork, e-verify and other things a much broader immigration reform bill but it also deals with daca as well. >> also a bipartisan immigration meeting on the senate side of the capitol this afternoon. democrat dick durbin and mike bennett, republicans plind si graham, jeff flake and corey gardner. >> shepard: we're hearing about a possible plan to avoid a government shutdown. >>ts government runs out of money late friday night the 19th. talk among republicans of the need of a short-term funding extension to give them more time to negotiate a long term funding agreement. this hour you have got four of the key players in the house and the senate meeting. they're talking about immigration and they also will be talking a bit about government funding.

and earlier, the senate democratic leader, chuck schumer, talked about pushing for some of his own democratic priorities. >> the republican majority which conveniently forgot its long history of opposing deficits when passing a $1.5 trillion tax bill cannot in good conscience turn around and complain about deficits here. >> so you have many republicans here on capitol hill who are ready to spend more money on defense, on rebuilding the military, dangerous world facing threats from north korea, iran, and others. they are less keen about spending more de mess particular priorities. democrats feel they have some leverage. democrat votes needed to pass a budget agreement. so they're pushing hard for some of their domestic priorities, addressing the opiod crisis, veterans, issues and others. back to you. >> shepard: mike emmanuel, live, mank you. -- thank you. to. hour headlines minutes away. quick commercial break, them "your world with neil cavuto" on fox news channel. >> tech: at safelite autoglass

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. >> president trump wrapping up his news conference with the norwegian prime minister, meeting with his cabinet, about to meet with the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. and treasury secretary steven mnuchin this hour. does this look like some one who doesn't have it all together? welcome, i'm charles payne in for neil cavuto, this is "your world." the president touting the coverage of his bipartisan immigration meeting as well. first, john roberts at the white house with the latest. john? >> the news that was made this afternoon, charles, came on a couple of fronts. on the russia investigation, we learned earlier this week the president trump's legal team believes the special counsel,