♪ >> dana: i'm dana perino with kimberly guilfoyle, juan williams, jesse watters and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is speethirty. immigration front and center in washington as the judicial branch stepped into the show down. a federal judge temporarily blocking president trump's efforts to end the daca program. the white house because the injunction outrageous. mr. trump had words earlier today. >> we want to see something happen with daca. it's been spoken out for years.

our country was such a mess, no one knows what the numbers are. we will know what the numbers are. above all else, any bill we passed must improve jobs, wages, and security for american citizens. the people who elected us, all of us, the people that elected us, we have to take care of them. >> dana: the block came after the president appeared willing to negotiate the deal to protect them from deportation. >> the president has created a crisis for 800,000 young people. every single day that goes by, young people are losing status, which means they are subject to being deported by i.c.e. it means some of them cannot legally show up for work anymore. the whole notion that we put that off is wrong. >> dana: some conservatives don't want to see the president

compromise on immigration. >> anyone in washington starts talking about amnesty, legalization of any kind for people that have come into the united states illegally, there is a fresh surge across our border. >> that is no "art of the deal." that is complete surrender. >> kevin mccarthy is the hard-liner on immigration in the room. we can call the slowest day in the trump presidency. >> dana: kimberly, this judge's decision, when president obama made the deal with dreamers, it was by executive order and today we see is that the white house is having to grapple with -- the courts never said obama's order could not stand but they are saying president trump's cannot stand but it's also by executive order. what do you think? >> kimberly: a bit of disparity and hypocrisy. >> dana: trying to lead the

witness. >> greg: i rest my case. >> kimberly: the thing is there's always a double standard as it relates to president trump. it's like the ninth circuit, the travel ban, everything gets sent back to them. there shouldn't be a difference. it is the same mechanism by which he is putting this forward, just like president obama did. because they object to him doing it, they are going to find fault with it where they wouldn't otherwise with president obama. i think this is what he finds to be particularly frustrating and as it relates to the conservatives on the right, greg, yesterday you were saying ann coulter would be none too pleased by this order. >> dana: what do you think of all this >> greg: esther yesterday -- after yesterday i am self identifying as a dreamer. why can't i?

there has been more red and said about the dreamers about any group probably since the beatle beatles. i am sorry to say to john lennon, jesus is more popular than jesus. this is about being out of power. trump is moving in their direction. the angrier ann coulter gets, the more elizabeth warren should be happy. he is moving away. he wants a deal at a deal means he is willing to do a lot more. i don't know what the gripe is anymore. >> kimberly: it's because it's him. >> greg: and no matter what he does. it's not his demeanor, not this dementia they talk about. it's because they are not in power and they don't like him. >> dana: on the politics side of things, the conservatives expressing disappointment, they are upset about the policy.

i think it does deal with how you define amnesty. >> jesse: if you give the dreamers the ability to vote, that would be a big problem for a lot of people. i would have a problem with it. that might not be part of the deal. a lot of people say 800,000 dreamers voting. if you look at the big deal, border hawks are getting a lot done. not only are they getting funding for the border wall. they are getting more border agents, immigration judges. getting rid of chain migration which is basically my cousin vinny. your cousin, your uncle, come on in. the lottery system, they are getting rid of that. when you don't have a party, you don't have people coming in through a lottery. it doesn't make sense. they are moving toward a merit-based system. i think conservatives, especially border hawks, if they would take any of these items and put them into a group and

say we've got to legalize some dreamers, you don't punish the sun for the sins of the father, they would take it. in any deal, you're knocking to be happy 100% but it's pretty good. >> dana: dana milbank from "the washington post" saying how some on the far left are asking for too much from democrats and they should be supportive of the deal they are going to get. >> juan: they are saying united we dream have been attacking democrats. the budget deal, january 20, over the holiday. the dreamers objected. they said you promised you were going to stand by us. directing their ir at the democrats for not being more vociferous, more aggressive taking on the president. you heard them say it was the

president's decision to end.gov end.gov. -- end daca. we could be having a conversation about the dreamers without the idea of a march deadline when they would be forced out technically. when you stop and think about it, it's true. now the problem here i think is twofold. i disagreed with you leading my most honorable witness. i couldn't believe it. i want to stand up for her. the court didn't speak to whether or not there was any legitimacy to an executive order. this was about donald trump's tweets. he said dreamers are good, educated people, accomplished young people. they have jobs. they are in the military. why would we kick them out? the judge in san francisco says that sounds like the chief executive whose job it is to make the judgment, think it's in the public interest. it's up to the congress to set the law. as we say now, we think the

public interest is served by what the president said. mr. president, you get your wish. don't kick out the dreamers. >> dana: perhaps this forces congress to not just worry about the presidents deadline but now there's a court situation. your republicans and democrats who came together yesterday, and now maybe there's more pressure on them to get it done. >> kimberly: i think that's what we are talking about here, yesterday as well. negotiating and being able to try to come together, this is something president trump excels at any wants to put a little bit of pressure, a little bit of a foot on the panel, give it some gas, so he can make sure democrats are going to try to engage. like you said, dana, people on the right getting upset because it's too much of a giveaway. you have vocal opponents on the side, like we sow. and then you have some democrats who still don't seem to be happy enough with allowances that he's making that in fact our direct accordance with what they were

supporting. if he's going to get the deal done and be objective -- the objective is to get a deal done. immigration or anything else, daca, dreamers, taxes, health care. he wants to get a ton. what can he give and pressure? >> dana: who does the president need to persuade? how can he persuade people to support a compromise. >> greg: the thing about a compromise, the evidence is when everybody is unhappy about a deal. that means they didn't get everything. if nobody gets everything they want, that means somebody gave up something. that's what you're saying. you are saying ann coulter on the hard immigration side. and you have the democrats. everyone is ticked off about something. that's what happens in a negotiation coming and adil. i don't go for deals for the sake of deals.

he wanted a tax deal. we weren't pleased with it. it felt like he wanted a deal. now it's kind of happening. bannon is gone. he's got more room to play. >> juan: we'll see. there's concern that bannon's acolytes in the white house continue to flock the deal. we saw people crossing the border now, it set out 45 year low. then you don't need billions for an actual wall. >> greg: the premise is based on the promise. >> jesse: lived this last month, 1,000 illegal aliens were caught per day. those are the ones that have gotten caught. i'm sure another 1,000 are slipping by. the wall that you said yesterday

was too expensive. $30 billion. i looked it up. medicare come each year they spend about 600 billion. it >> juan: you are comparing the wall to medicare? >> jesse: 30 billion is a drop in the bucket. >> juan: taking care of people who are american citizens who need medical care is the equivalent of a wall? you know what, we report. you decide, audience. i don't think so. i think people know they need better -- what i'm saying is the democrats, and this goes back to what you are proposing earlier. let's have a reasonable discussion. democrats want the dreamers to stay. i think actually president trump once the dreamers to stay but they are willing to negotiate in terms of added boots on the ground at the border, more security in terms of drones, aircraft, electronic surveillance. trump comes out and says no, no, no. we've got to have the wall.

>> jesse: because he's a negotiator. i guarantee you're going to have wall funding and the dreamers protected. >> dana: what will end up happening is he will call it while funding and the democrats will say it is border security. that's how you branded. >> greg: wanting the dreamers to stay only became an argument now, which means donald trump made it a chip, something to negotiate over. which is now allowing him to make progress on the border control, no matter what you call it. >> dana: i think it was a steve bannon move. >> greg: it might've been. here is something that's understood to be there. now it's like, maybe it isn't. now you have a negotiation. >> juan: i think that's right but i think that's why the democrats that he created an artificial crisis. as a negotiating tool. now we are up against it. then you get people like ann coulter and mark levine and

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there are others who can't. check out this haircut. >> days after the release of the bombshell book "fire and fury," they have a question president's fitness to lead. a rare event playing out on television. reporters and cameras in a meeting televised, showing america the president at work. >> greg: i am sure he reads a ton. he has amazing hair. at least one person gave trump credit. >> translator: the accomplishments of the south-north dialog largely credited to president trump. i would like to express gratitude to him. >> greg: isn't that sweet? moon is over the moon. he could be saying it to flatter trump but so what? what would you rather have come out president who gets credit for a job well done or one willing to look the other way

when a terror group might model his legacy. the small business optimism index is at a record high. you can tab because of the green arrow. it's going up. the optimism is a decent barometer of job approval. more so than what the polls tell you. small businesses thrive in good times and now they sense good times. i should know. i am a small piece of business myself. let's talk about it. donald trump commented on his own meeting. vintage drum. >> my performance, some of them called it a performance. i considered work. it's got great reviews by everybody other than two networks were phenomenal for about two hours. after that, they were called by their bosses.

oh, wait a minute. unfortunately a lot of those anchors sent us letters that was one of the greatest meetings i've ever witnessed. and they were great for about two hours. they were phenomenal. and then they went a little bit south on s. >> greg: jesse, yesterday you had kind of an amazing moment and then you had this with this vintage -- they sent them letters. >> jesse: the letters got there the next day. quick mail. >> greg: how can you not love that? >> jesse: it was performance. i mean, it was work. it was work, not performance. this was great. this is the media obsessed with the president's style and not his results. he got mocked for the whole fire and fury and the sanctions. now they are talking, north and south. got mocked for saying he wants to bomb the hell out of isis. now the caliphate is gone. the tax cuts, remember, this was

going to be for the rich. now millions of people get a $1,000 bonus. the workers did benefit. i wish the media would be fair. you can knock him on the style a little bit. a little bit erratic but to his credit, the results are there and he's going to be judged by the results. >> greg: dana, i came across the small business index. i won't say where. scott adams' blog. >> jesse: here we go. >> greg: there is a story conveniently overlooked. that's kind of a big deal. >> dana: i feel like the economy is covered every single day. >> greg: this is the first i've heard about the small business index being at an all-time high. shouldn't it be all over the place? >> dana: yes. >> greg: thank you. >> dana: people are seeing the benefits. part of it is a feeling. as much as you want for someone

to actually get credit and say yes, you got credit. you got credit. their snap it's more important that people feel it. when the economics catches up with people's feelings about the tax cuts, that the republican party and president trump will benefit. most importantly is that the worker benefits. >> greg: kimberly, i know juan thinks the whole north korea thing was baloney. but why question the intent? >> kimberly: how is this a bad thing? i don't understand. i think it's good that he's getting praise because we are saying look, we are working cooperatively. we want to go against north korea and get them to knock it off. the more partnerships we have and coalition building and support that's verbalized, it's good for the united states. i think it's something that's

very powerful and it is something the president can use as an asset. i see it from that perspective. in terms of, give me your voice on this so we can spread the word. it's not that the president always having to stand alone on it. >> greg: juan, if you admit there are one or two good things about your adversary, doesn't it make your own or criticism look more valid? here's your chance. >> jesse: one or two things, juan. maybe one. >> juan: i love your hair. what about what trump said, pretty good. >> jesse: and it's real. >> kimberly: do you mean your hair? >> juan: there were reports of surgeries and comb-over's. you had the right note, which is

flattery will get you everywhere. with trump, that is proven every day. you get president moon who has had previously he should be negotiating with the north. we want the united states. the president said don't do it. he opposed sanctions, et cetera. now here comes president moon saying you know what, jesse. your hair is divine. you look marvelous. my friend jesse, distracted from the fact that the alliance which was the u.s. and south korea against north korea. >> jesse: they haven't been speaking since 2015 because of the fire and fury ran direct. the north came to the table. that's a good thing. >> juan: what's interesting is that greg would suddenly be looking, i don't want to insult the guy, but what did trump call him? rocket man. suddenly the little rocket man is the one who's going to determine whether or not trump is a good negotiator. come on, guys.

give me a break. the honest. >> greg: none of the stuff happened? >> juan: has china come along? have they pushed hard? remember when the chocolate cake was on the breakfast table. we've got it. now china is really going to a thumb hard. now he says china hasn't done enough. >> greg: that's good. he should be saying that. >> juan: he wants them to do more. >> greg: president trump tearing into sneaky dianne feinstein. that's his word.

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♪ >> jesse: enough is enough. president trump's personal lawyer taking legal action against the "fake russian

dossier," suing fusion gps and buzzfeed. michael: alleges false and defamatory allegations resulted in harm to the president's reputation. mr. trump unleashed some fury today on senator dianne feinstein. releasing testimony to glenn simpson. "the fact that sneaky dianne feinstein, who has on numerous occasions stated that collusion between trump/russia has not been found, would release testimony in such an underhanded and possibly illegal way, totally without authorization, is a disgrace. must have tough primary!" feinstein's response: >> does it offend you when the president calls you shady? speak out calls people names very quickly. i'm not alone. >> jesse: sneaky diane. great nickname. what do you think about the

lawsuit? >> greg: yesterday the 312 page document dropped and everyone is running around. oh, my god. this is the biggest story. thank you, buy . now it's the next day. all this hoopla. this story is like a blow up doll. it's inflated and disappointing. >> kimberly: how would you even know that? [laughter] >> juan: the witness. >> jesse: moving on. onto the dossier. saying yesterday that the dossier, some of it was true. the brain room looked at it, juan. is the dossier accurate? no public corroboration of these

allegations against mr. trump nor of the specific claims of coordination between his associates and the russians. juan, you are fact-checked by your own company and you got four pinocchios. >> juan: i think what they said was not corroborate. the five where is it? juan there is no speculation here. i think everyone can agree documents exist that russian was out to interview the election, damage the u.s., damage our role on the world stage, and they did that. secondly that they were making available negative information on one candidate in order to aid donald trump. >> jesse: saying there was a line of communication between the kremlin of the trump campaign. >> juan: i don't think there's any question we saw a russian lawyer in trump tower just down the street here meeting with don jr.

did you miss that? >> jesse: that wasn't in the dossier. do you think slapping buzzfeed and gps with this lawsuit, $100 million lawsuit, do you think it's going to have any effect? >> kimberly: this is what president trump does. his lawyers are very aggressive. they've been successful in the past when they have brought suits. when the first lady was maligned. something he cares about might be -- he is putting himself on the record to say this was incorrect and this was inappropriate and he wants to call them to task. this is what he does. >> dana: does it require discovery? >> kimberly: you can do this and you compel discovery on the other side unless at some point he decides to drop it or goes away. i'm sure they have a strategy because they wouldn't risk, i would assume, exposing himself

to that kind of discovery. >> juan: don't you think this might not go anywhere. he's the president of michael cohen this is lawyer. very public people. i don't understand how there's any ground. >> jesse: you are saying he wasn't the president, donald trump hired prostitutes and they -- >> kimberly: jesse. >> jesse: that was the allegation. slanderous and salacious. i would say it brings a lot of harm to someone's reputation. that's why i think he slapped them with a lawsuit. >> juan: that was the most serious allegation? >> jesse: it's got a lot of buzz in the buzzfeed article. dana, wrap it up with class. >> dana: senator grassley, counterpart to feinstein come his complaint was that he wasn't concerned -- he wasn't concerned about what it might say about the

president. he was concerned it would dampen the possibility that other witnesses would come forward and testify. help me out here, people. that would include in his words jared kushner. "the wall street journal" reporter has written a lot of this, supercritical of fusion gps. she said this is silly. what we should try to do is have anything they can be declassified in the dossier released so the leaking back-and-forth stops. >> jesse: with that. >> kimberly: that's how "the five" cleans it up. >> jesse: actor robert de niro lost it again last night.

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♪ >> kimberly: there is barely a mention of president trump by

his haters in hollywood at sunday's golden globes. that wasn't the case last night at a different award show when robert de niro went wild. hoping there weren't any children in the audience. >> the world is suffering from the real donald trump. this [bleep] is the president. it is the emperor's new clothes. the guy is a [bleep] fool. our baby in chief. [bleep] in chief, i call him. has put the press under siege. >> kimberly: what happened there? >> greg: that's why they have scripts. the great thing about robert de niro is he such a great actor when he was younger and it's too bad. i wrote de niro in my iphone to pitch the story and he came out as "denial," corrective for denial. his emotional perspective is causing him to deny the world in front of him.

if you cite facts about what's going on. he thinks we are in this dystopian hel. things have never been better but he can't see that. i saw an actor of equal magnitude say stuff about obama. this emotional, irrational door could swing both ways. when your mind is clouded by emotions, that's what you see. any sensible person, when you look at that, you go, he's not doing well. it's not a good look for you, de niro. >> kimberly: what do you think, dana? >> dana: i thought the restraint at the golden globes was welcome and serve them well. could have turned into this. i love civility. >> greg: civility is overrated overrated. >> kimberly: we can tell you

think so. jesse. >> jesse: i don't have anything else about de niro. >> greg: tell us more about the dossier. >> jesse: what i have to say it out -- no, i can talk about de niro. i think if this had been a guy, if he had been going after president obama like this, he would never work again. huge double standard. i love this guy. sad to see them kind of come unglued on television. i don't know if it's his age. we shouldn't be speaking like this in public. not just the president, the office of the presidency that he's insulting, and he should know better than that. it's not a very intellectual argument. for someone who was supposed to be this very cultured actor who has won all these words. great actor. hangs in high circles. to speak like he's a 17-year-old

just kind of ruins his reputation for a lot of people and i think even liberals that hate the president, hate his policies, look at someone like that on the lectern and say that doesn't make our side look good at all. >> kimberly: is not the first time he's done this, where he's gone on a rant and sad stuff about president trump and de niro, a big buddy of harvey weinstein. how they waste 40 million on doing some film thing with him. after the harvey weinstein thing, he's angry, cranky. >> juan: if he's generally concerned about the country, he has a right. he should speak out and say he has concerns. obviously donald trump has his own issues, everything from women to policy that we've been talking about. bragging knowledge people on the right side some very harsh, ugly things about people on the left. >> jesse: name one person of the caliber of robert de niro.

>> greg: actually said he had proof that obama wasn't born here. i would say this guy is right up there with de niro. >> kimberly: video, i'm going to punch him in the face, in october. >> juan: this was an award. meryl streep won for her role for catherine graham. her role in this movie. when he said was he talked about nixon being someone who was delusional, narcissistic and petty and then he said oh, the good old days, comparative donald trump. i thought that was pretty funny. he should've stuck with that material. the offensive stuff where they did go over the top. >> kimberly: we concur. i had, new -- ahead, a new mirror that will tell you everything that's wrong with yo you.ib

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us how we look. we have twitter. yes, i have gained weight! i am trying to lose weight. i am trying to lose weight. stop it. >> juan: you look marvelous, darling. kimberly. you look in the mirror and the way it works -- >> kimberly: i like it. >> juan: it says kimberly, you have a dry patch here today. you need more concealer. kimberly, try on this outfit. see how you look at the beach. >> kimberly: where are you going with this? how do you go from that to me in a bikini. >> juan: the idea is the mirror interacts with you. >> kimberly: okay, well, that's fine. if it wants to come to the beach with me. >> juan: the idea, the idea should i wear this outfit are

that outfit. >> kimberly: whatever. i have no problem with this. do an experiment, mirror ops between me and greg. >> dana: i am self-critical enough that i don't need this mirror. >> juan: jesse, you spend a lot of time in front of the mirror. >> jesse: how do you know that that? >> juan: i have reports. i went to the brain room. >> jesse: you have sources. >> juan: what do you think? >> jesse: yeah, i can tell me when i cut my head during black friday, is that healing. it's not healing very well. there is a major gash. >> kimberly: it's better than it was. >> jesse: because i have a ton of makeup on. >> juan: don't worry about it. you look great. "one more thing" is up next.

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ben had worked. he talks very fast. speaking of, time for something new. call it a day. yesterday we were celebrating law enforcement appreciation day. what did convicted spy chelsea manning do? she went on to twitter and wrote "f the police." followed by #disarmthepolice. i am starting to think maybe chelsea does things to get attention. i don't know. i might question her intent. i don't think she might've been a whistle-blower. i think she might've been an unstable, attention seeking person and i think it's time for her to call it a day. retire from twitter. go get a real job. >> dana: #getarealjob. >> jesse: is been very cold,

as many of you know. there is a guy in virginia who had an epic fall down his driveway. watched 33 million times. >> dana: [laughs] oh, that's so bad. that's so bad. >> jesse: black eyes got him in his driveway. he was trying, trying hard. >> dana: he could have really hurt himself. >> jesse: he's fine. and i'm going to be on hannity tonight. i have no idea what we are going to talk about. >> greg: nothing new for you. >> kimberly: check your email. you might've been canceled. >> dana: we have a new podcast. "i'll tell you what." we talked about the new tom wolf

book. also the mustache of the year awards. people in search of the mustache of the year. they founded in detroit. perfect facial hair, one has to be strong enough to to go throh months without touching it. our own geraldo was very disappointed. wasn't even runner up. he is our favorite guy. >> kimberly: that's a great picture. >> juan: here's a video of a louisiana teacher who is teacher of the year in '16, getting manhandled by city officials for expressing her opinion. >> can you explain. >> what are you doing? >> stop resisting. >> i am not. >> juan: this is outrageous.

she objected to a pay raise for the superintendent at a school board meeting noting increases in class sizes and no raises for teachers in ten years. while speaking after being acknowledged. >> dana: "special report" is up next. >> juan: i wanted to hear the rest of juan story. >> juan: thank you. >> bret: single greatest witch hunt in american history. that's president trump on the rush occlusion investigation. he would not say whether he will agree to be interviewed by the special counsel. the definition of the word wall is in the mexican government funding negotiations. democratic senators join us to talk about the future of their party, immigration. this is "special report" ." good evening. welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. president trump is standing firm for his border wall. apparently wavering on whether he will talk with the special counsel investigating allegations his campaign collude wi t