president's health on tuesday. by the way, most watched and most grateful that you spent the evening with us. have a great weekend. good night. ♪ ♪ >> well, good evening and welcome to tucker carlson tonight. washington, d.c. is a divided city but today saw a moment of rare political unity. lawmakers in both parties came together in grave agreement that it was unfortunate, unacceptable and indeed threatening that president trump would refer to poor and dangerous countries as in effect poor and dangerous. now, some of the outrage was tactical, obviously. a way to score political advantage but a great deal of it was entirely real. it was authentic rage. so why are the people in charge hysterical about this? is it because trump said something racially insensitive? let's see, just yesterday nancy pelosi dismissed the

daca negotiation because there were too many white people involved and most people here didn't even notice. left wing attacks on the basis of race are now common. very common. would it be they found it shocking the president would criticize an entire nation? maybe. but then the left has no problem bashing huge parts of this country. >> you can put half of trump's supporters into what i call the basket of deplorables. [laughter] right? the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic. >> they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people that aren't like them. >> five white guys i call them. [laughter] i said you going to open a hamburger stand next or what? >> tucker: they don't have a problem dismissing entire populations. so what is the real reason for the panic you are

watching right now on cable television? maybe it's because trump's remarks are forcing precisely the kind of conversation our leaders don't want to have. he didn't do it on purpose. it was accidental but he still raised questions they would rather not answer like who exactly are we importing into our country and how are they doing once they get here? answer, of course, well they are all valedictorians and war heroes and way more impressive and way more american than you will ever be so shut up. that's what we're told. that's what we are required to believe. what if it's not true? last year the u.s. accepted 23,000 people from haiti and 127,000 from mexico. immigration from el salvador so brisk one in three el salvadorians now live in the united states has america become a better country as a result? hamaybe, maybe not. maybe we ought to talk it through. leaders who actually cared about their people would do exactly that and, yet, our

leaders just yell at us until we stop asking questions. senator lindsey graham of south korea release --south cara statement today how most of washington thinks about the subject. in a statement graham dismisses the idea that america should even think about what kind of people it let's in. quote: i have always believed that america is an idea, graham wrote, not defined by its people but by its ideals, diversity has always been our strength, not our weakness. america is defined by its ideals. okay. so what are those ideals? it might be useful to know considering how important they are. well, diversity is our strength is the only one our leaders seem to agree on. the less we have in common, somehow the stronger we are. is that true? we better hope it's true because we are betting everything on it but there's a deeper problem with what senator graham said. quote: america is not defined by its people. really? what do its people think about that? are they pleased to learn their leaders consider them merely a commodity, a set of

interchangeable parts? america's actual people with their actual families and towns and traditions and history and customs may be surprised to learn that they are irrelevant to the success or failure of what they imagined was their country. according to lindsey graham, you can take our entire population and swap it out for 320 million, i don't know, chinese or indians or africans orca madians or people from new zealand and the place would be no different so long as the idea was still there. does anyone actually believe that? how about we test that idea starting with the u.s. senate. would south carolina get the same representation from someone randomly selected out of the phone book? as lindsey graham would say the senate isn't defined by its people. it's really just an idea. and as soon as you start defining things by ideas rather than individuals, people become irrelevant. jason nicoles is a professor of african american studies at the university of maryland and he joins us tonight. professor, thanks for coming on. >> thank you. >> tucker: this isn't a debate from my perspective

whether or not the presidential is vulgar, yeah, he is. it's a much bigger debate about people and do they matter? are people interchangeable? are all populations the same? if i took your neighborhood where you live and took out everyone who lived there and replaced them with other people from somewhere else, would the neighborhood be the same? >> so, first thing, since you said it's about people, i do want to mention a couple of people. i would like to mention u.s. army sergeant mario nelson who gave his life for this country. mario nelson was born in haiti. >> tucker: yeah. >> he left a 3-year-old daughter who is now a teenager and she is watching this show. i want to give my condolences but he gave his life for this country. my friend paul who -- his very good friend while he was in afghanistan died in a rocket attack. she was born in kenya. >> tucker: if you are expecting me to be surprised i'm not al all. i spent part of the day with a terrific guy from haiti. there are great immigrants from haiti and el salvador and countries you wouldn't want to live. in they are great people. i'm not contesting that at

all. the idea that all populations are the same or people of america don't have a right to determine who comes here or if you take a ton of people and replace them with another group of people, then everything is exactly the same the same idea. that's just not true. >> if we believe that we like the way america is right now, then why are we trying to get rid of large numbers of people who are here? >> tucker: i don't know. but. >> again, i will mention one other name my friend. >> tucker: look, we can play i know an impressive immigrant game and i would agree with you in every case because there are a lot of impressive immigrants but there are also a lot of impressive native born americans. >> i agree two of us right here. >> tucker: they need our help there are a lot of them. >> sure. >> tucker: the idea that it's somehow outrageous or bigoted to say there are differences between countries or cultures. >> what is outrageous and bigoted among many things that our president has said. what is outrageous and bigotside to select certain

places and call them crap holes and, again, i'm going to edit myself here but to call them crab holes. now, again, haiti and continental africa have very litigation in common other than the color of the skin of the residents who live there. the other thing i would say is this he talks about we want people from nigeria but we don't -- excuse me, we want people from norway but not nigeria. nigeria has a higher g.d.p. than norway does. wealthiest country in africa. >> tucker: i mean, look, it's hardly relevant to the point. >> is it? >> tucker: you are wrong on that one point. norway i think is the richest country in the world. >> actually the g.d.p., the way i saw it was i think it's -- >> tucker: here's the point. we get a ton more people from nigeria than we do from norway. >> sure. because people from norway don't have to leave there no reason to leave. norway you get free healthcare up to the age of 16. >> tucker: if you were

really interested in helping america, you would want the most impressive people you could find, some would be from nigeria, some would be from norway. some would be have from japan to move here. you would rate them on the basis of how impressive they were. you would not say the first people to get here have relatives here. you don't run your college that wait a minute harvard doesn't let the first 7,000 salvadorians that apply. no, no, we are taking the best only. why don't we do that? >> we do do that. one of the things you said about nigeria, the last time we were here they have a higher median income and more educated than native born americans when they get here nigerian immigrants. they are not going back to their huts as the president said. they are people who come here and work really hard and do really well. >> tucker: actually, if you are claiming that we are bringing the most impressive people here, then you don't know much about our system which gives overwhelming priority to people who have relatives here. being related to someone is not a qualification it's an accident. we don't have that that's

not a criterion that apple uses when it hires people. if you really cared about america you are would say we are only taking the best. have to figure out who they are. >> again, i think sergeant nelson was the best. he came here, he sacrificed his life for this country. >> tucker: i agree. i'm not contesting that. >> so i'm not. >> tucker: oh my argument is that if you care. >> people who come here who work extremely hard. >> tucker: they do. >> some of them do very well. >> tucker: we do. and we also have people who come here and don't do well. the point. >> and there are native born people the same way. >> tucker: this country belongs to american citizens, period. okay? so that's where we start. but, second, if you ran your college like we run our country, or harvard ran its college like we ran our country or any company did it would go out of business. to suggest that people who ran country or college didn't care of the enterprise they were in charge of because they weren't trying to find the best. why don't we do that? >> again, i think our immigration system certainly needs work.

it needs some changes. however, the president has made this about race and ethnicity and that's the problem here. >> tucker: really? i kind of missed that part? >> are you missing that part? >> tucker: the president said we should have a merit beared system. >> that's not what the president said. the president said we don't want people from certain crap holes, you know, and was referring to the african continent. >> tucker: no. he said our immigrant. look. >> -to-defend. >> you are correcting his statement. >> tucker: i'm not here to correct what he said. i'm here to make the case for acting on behalf of our country with a merit based immigration system. >> tucker if you were president of the united states and you said those things, we could sit here and have a discussion about that. i would be 100 percent open to it. >> tucker: you would be open to it? i don't think so. >> the problem is you are sitting here and making an argument that the president hasn't made. >> tucker: that's fine. look, i think as a general matter we pay way too much attention to the brain droppings of the president. >> he is the president.

you have to pay attention to what he says. they have real consequences. >> tucker: hold on, the white house has issued its plans which have been rejected out of hand by democrats which would end chain migration, make this a merit based system, end the diversity loiter and install everify. what's wrong with those ideas? >> let's talk about some of the other things that this administration. >> tucker: do you agree with those ideas? >> the devil rays right now has increased the amount of people that they are trying to deport and is talking about leaving 800,000 young people who have lived here like my friend nancy, the age of 3, trying to keep getting education. >> tucker: support people here illegally. if i show up at harvard and enroll illegally and tart taking classes fnches somebody is here by the age of 3 and didn't choose to be here and that's all they know yes that sim moral. >> tucker: they are not going to deport daca

citizens. people here committing crimes guy they have to be here. >> since the obama administration the people being detained who have not. >> tucker: you haven't answered any of my questions. >> i want to treat the country with the love and respect you treat your college with. >> absolutely. i want a country that sticks to its values. >> tucker: right. protecting its own people over and against people from other countries. >> one of the greatest symbols of freedom in this country, of course, is the poem that talks about the huddled masses. it talks about bringing poor, even homeless people. >> tucker: we have done a lot of that. >> that is something that we stand for as a nation. >> tucker: what we stand for is protecting our own people because it's their country. we are americans, that's the whole point of a government. i don't think our interests are being looked out for first. i just don't. >> i would disagree with that i agree with you that i think this administration is not always looking out for all its citizens. >> tucker: thank you. good to see you. >> absolutely.

>> tucker: victor davis hanson a professor at call state authorton, professor, thanks for coming on. what do you make of this debate? >> i mean, everybody believes that the president would be better off using language from the sermon of the mount than howard stern and he could have easily said we would like to prefer people come from the top tier in the development report or g.d.p. rather than the bottom tier and after -- i mean, after the michael wolff book, mythography and surveying, he should be very careful what he says to anybody much less to dick temperature bin. all of that said, there is really a divide in the country and about half the country believes in the melting pot. and that we want to assimilate, we want to intermarry and integrate people so outward appearance, identification, race if you will is incidental, not essential to who they are as individuals. to do that, we need diverse

immigration. we have 30% of all people come from one country, mexico. we need mayor cratic, we need legal immigration and to the degree somebody has skill sets or capital or knows english that facilitates the melting pot. future of daca is to get future democratic votes they don't believe that they have a tribal view collectives. to further that vision they want as many people as they can to come and not to integrate, not to assimilate rapidly and to be predictable in the way that they vote and that outward appearance is essential to their character. that's the issue whether the salad bowl or melting pot. in the case of the progressive movement, they saw what the american southwest has become. it went from red to purple, maybe to blue. it's got enormous implications for the electoral college. remember what the message is.

come here and be dependent on a government and look to your identity in collective terms and vote in a quid pro quo fashion for those who are your ethnic tribune. pretty cynical. and i guess we are all getting tired. >> tucker: let me stop you more than cynical. if that's true it's criminal. impovertying people solely for the purpose of bolstering your own power, hoping to get obedient voters rather than citizens, that's a crime. >> i mean, if you really cared about immigrants, you would say we want people to come after we have prepped them in a country or they had been prepped to know english and they came legally and came in a diverse fashion from all over the world because we know historically that when people come in diverse groups, and they are not in single enclaves that they immigrate more. if your name is giuliani or cuomo, we can't tell how you vote now. it's incidental being eye tall i can't believe american. that's what we want for lopez and men doze is a. that's not what the wants.

they see electoral success through immigration often illegal. pretty cynical when you all v. all these jeff bezos or mark zuckerberg lives don't match their lives. they put their kids in private school. all my kids went to public school. i live here with people living here illegally. a lot of the problems whether you have so many people coming so quickly without capital or education. but rather than -- you can't deny that we have to work on the melting pot. but if you want to encourage that separatism for political purposes, then you're the one that's culpable. you're the one that's a moral. you are the one that's unethical. >> tucker: never been a country with less ruling class. thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: members of the press were in tears, some of them literally over the president's comments yesterday. who outdid him or herself on

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>> because we now know that we have in the white house someone who could lead the ku klux klan in the united states of america. someone who could be the leader of the neo nazi. >> our president is a clear and present danger to nonwhite people in america. >> tucker: gutierrez unbelievable. go concha writes for the hill, watches tv and joins us tonight. i was preparing for tonight's show so i missed a lot of this. what were our moral leaders our ethical betters. >> our media overlords. for starters i'm a little banged up today, i have to admit. i was stupid enough to play the s-hole drinking game which is entailed by if someone says s-hole, uncensored, right, the whole thing, you have to do a boilermaker shot. and by the end of the night. >> tucker: you are in the hospital? >> it was said 36 times. so i actually did 36

boilermaker shots which meant i got to see the after life glorious until the mp brought me back. attention. if you are going to use s hole in a report quote it once it's verbatim. after that it becomes simply a matter of i'm being edgy and swearing on the air one network alone it was said 36 times. perfect. >> tucker: it's interesting. look, i can understand why people, you know, are offended by profant or offended by what the president said. was there any conversation though about what it meant and about the implications for the country and the debate that underlies it about who should come here who makes the country better and who doesn't? >> no. it was am i more morally virtuous to you. that's what the debate has come town to now. it wasn't like okay, is this an economic argument that the president is making? is he sticking up for the american worker? or was it a racist statement? you had one argument over on

cnn and it was between rick wilson, who is a g.o.p. strategist like a never trumper and john fred distribution who hosts a radio show in washington, a conservative, right? and this is what wilson said and i'm quoting here. he said after they go back and forth and fred distribution was trying to say look we have got to bring better people in the country. mainly making your argument, right? >> tucker: yeah. >> wilson is yelling at him no, no, no. you are a racist. go to the home depot and put a white hood on your head. he then says this i would like to gut you like a fish on this show. gut you like a fish. that's what. he got big headlines for saying that. >> tucker: you're a bad person. i'm a good person. is that the whole point? was there no attempt to kind of explain what this might be about or the implications for viewers or was it all just this moral preening by maybe the single least impressive group in the

country cable news people. >> which includes us. it was a panel that was kind of hard to follow because everybody was yelling at each other. don lemming gave him credit and said that's enough after the gutting thing. it's just very hard to follow and really it was a matter of just people yelling past each other. no one wants to exchange any ideas anymore. people just want to bring attention to themselves by being the loudest voice in the room. >> tucker: boy, it's so unimpressive. joe, thank you. >> no, thank you. >> tucker: doing the work we don't want to do in watching that stuff. >> dehydrate. that's the whole point right now. >> tucker: newly released testimony from the founder of fusion gps indicates that company tried to ok investigation. the author of clinton cash is here with details next. ♪ now you can join angie's list for free. which means everyone has access to our real reviews that we actually verify. and we can also verify that what goes down, [ splash, toilet flush ] doesn't always come back up.

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>> tucker: fusion gps founder glenn simpson gave testimony to congress a while ago it. was released this week by dianne feinstein. the transcript seems to have unwelcome and probably unintend tended revelations for democrats though. for instance, simpson's testimony suggest that even as fusion was encouraging an fbi investigation of trump and his campaign, it was also trying to hinder an investigation into the clinton foundation. huh? peter schweizer is very familiar with the subjects like these. he wrote "clinton cash." he is suspect of all the arms of the vast clinton

nonprofit improfittable octopus. he joins us tonight. peter, tell us what this transcript suggests. >> well, what it suggests is that glenn simpson did not like the fact that the fbi in august and then later october was looking to open the clinton email investigation. he testified when he heard that the fbi was considering this that he contacted the fbi. he encouraged other journalists to contact the fbi and his partner christopher steele, the exbritish intelligence officer stopped cooperating with the fbi on the trump dossier. this is all according to glenn simpson himself. so it raises questions, you know, about who this guy actually is. he's not the sort of disinterested fact finder who is sort of shocked and appalled by what they found regarding trump that he was actually doing the bidding of his client, which as we now know happened to be the hillary clinton campaign. >> tucker: but the broader bidding, not just -- so my

understanding was here is a former newspaper reporter hired to dig up information on her opponent. that's pretty conventional. it happenings a lot during campaigns. >> right. >> tucker: but this suggests he was in fact a partisan trying to help the clintons in another arena entirely? >> yeah. that's exactly right. and, look, i mean, you know, he continues to use the term simpson, that this is sort of opposition research, you know, tucker, you and i have been around the block in washington for a while. that dossier was not opposition research. opposition research is only useful if you can gather information and then give it to the media and the media can replicate it. the trump dossier was all anonymous sources. you know, beared on two to three iterations. it was shared with newspaper reporters but more specifically was shared with the fbi and the whole process shows how terrible the sausage making was in this case. i mean, fusion gps is trying to intervene in a possible clinton foundation

investigation, sorry, clinton email investigation they are pushin pushing this product that, you know, simpson admits in his testimony. he never verified. he never attempted to verify. it just really shows that what his job was was to try to wreak havoc on the trump campaign and help hillary clinton. >> tucker: by initiating a federal criminal investigation into the trump campaign not by digging up usable opo? >> yeah, exactly right. what they did in a couple of stages they shared this dossier around with media outlets then took it to the fbi and keep in mind we know of at least one senior department official whose spouse was working for fusion gps. but once they shared it with the fbi it then leaked further that the fbi is looking at the dossier. so, in effect, it's a two for from that standpoint. >> tucker: you shouldn't use the fbi as a component of your campaign. peter schweizer, that was really interesting and really dark. i'm grateful that you explained that. >> thanks, tucker.

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voted yet. sweeping powers to modern even u.s. citizens. it's astonishing power to reauthorize when the president himself you believe is a foreign agent. cynical observer might even conclude all this concern about collusion is just theater, not reflecting their actual beliefs but we are happy to believe their fears are genuine. yesterday's vote wasn't cynical. it was schiff and swalwell being irresponsible. one democrat who did not vote to continue government mass surveillance of hawaii. why didn't you vote for this. >> for a few very simple reasons. section 702 under this fisa act basically allows the u.s. government to tap in to or surveil communications of foreign targets on foreign soil. this specific section 702 is something as a veteran i understand is important and is necessary as retry to make sure that our country is not attacked by terrorists, however, there has been and continues to be

a gapping loophole in this that allows for law enforcement officials basically to search and use the incidental communication of american citizens that are caught up in this collection without a warrant. that's really where the unconstitutional issue comes in why myself and i believe 40 other members of congress, republican and democrat introduced an amendment that fixed these loopholes that allowed this program that provides this provision that allows to you surveil foreign targets on foreign soil making sure we keep our country safe but striking that balance protecting the rights of american citizens so that they are not being -- their communications are not being searched or used by law enforcement, again, without a warrant. >> tucker: right. that's a bill of rights right. that's a fundamental right. >> exactly. >> tucker: compound question. what else the argument against that? why would anybody be against that, getting a warrant for

snooping and second why was there no debate that filtered down to the rest of us over this? >> that's a good question about why there weren't more people talking about the seriousness of this issue and what is really at stake here there was some debate that happened on the house floor. it was interesting because had you republican and democratic leadership stepping up to protect the status quo, speaking out against our u.s.a. rights amendment. and there were a lot of misinformation and things that were being said that our amendment would do that they didn't actually do. they said this will make it so that our intelligence agencies can't go after terrorists. point blank saying things like that that simply were not true. the crafters of the amendment were sure to allow those provisions necessary to prevent a tears terrorist attack but protected the constitutional rights of americans. why would be against this?

the intelligence agency agents came in time and time again this program 702 is purely for foreign targets on foreign soil. not for americans. so it raised the question that we never really got answers to then why would you oppose our amendment? >> tucker: exactly this limit and provide that check and balance, due process, probable cause and a restaurant? >> tucker: if you give up your constitutional rights? what's the point of any of this. >> that's really the irony of the situation. when you look at what terrorists want, they want americans to -- they want us to give up our rights. they want us to give up our freedoms. and by allowing this to continue without fixing this unconstitutional loophole, then we are essentially ceding and the terrorists win. >> tucker: i agree with that. >> thank you, aloha. >> tucker: another democratic lawmaker joins us after the break to tell us why he protested the flag during the pledge of

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>> tucker: not just nfl players, a member of the missouri house of representatives is taking a stand against the american flag as an act of protest, he says. representative bruce franks raised his right hand with a clinched fist during the policemen of the opening day of the 2018 legislative session. he says he prefers to quote pledge allegiance to the people. representative franks joins us tonight. fromr. franks, thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> you have a sweatshirt on that says i'm routing for everybody black. what if i had a sweatshirt that says i'm routing for

everybody white. >> i wouldn't be upset about it because your shirt wouldn't say you are rooting against everybody black. >> you raised a fist in i guess defiance? tell us what this symbolic act meant. what did you mean by it during the pledge of allegiance? >> so i have never said the pledge of allegiance. and even in the house last year when i was in session, most of the time i wasn't in the chambers because i know that there are a lot of people that, you know have a lot of respect and feel proudly about the flag and the pledge of allegiance. i know how i feel. and so my raising my fist was basically power to the people, to all people. all power to the people vested into the people. when i say apledge allegiance to the people. that's who i'm chosen to represent. that's who i'm elected to represent. even before i was elected, that's who i stand for. >> tucker: i mean, good for you. i think you were elected by the people and you ought to represent them. when you have say you know

how you feel about the flag and pledge of allegiance. how do you feel? >> so when i think about the pledge of allegiance, the thing that sticks out most is when i hear for liberty and justice for all, when i think liberty and justice for all, we obviously haven't seen that across the united states over time or over my 33 years of living. we see that there are -- when it comes to justice, that looks a little different, depending on sometimes where you're from. depending on sometimes what your socioeconomic status is. and what you look like. >> tucker: okay. but so does that mean you are against the pledge of allegiance because it holds those up as ideals? i'm confused. >> i understand they hold those up. my thing is we talk about liberty and justice for all. we repeat a pledge. we pledge of allegiance and i pledge allegiance to the

people. that's who i stand for and that's ohio stand with. >> tucker: but what about the country? aren't the people in the country kind of the same thing? i mean, i don't know how you feel which is why i'm asking you but it sounds like you are opposed to america when you take a stand against the flag and pledge of allegiance, but maybe that's not your position? >> i'm opposed to folks in economically stressed communities being treated differentially in america. i am opposed to the way our government treats our economically distressed communities, our marginalized people in america. we have plenty of veterans who support me, who support our right to protest, no matter what that is, even if they don't necessarily agree. many of them have expressed to me that this is the very reason why they fought. they fought for our first amendment right. and we are not always going to agree on when we exercise them or what we're exercising them about.

>> tucker: right. >> but it's our right to exercise them. >> tucker: you won't find that contested here and i agree with you actually that poor people are treated badly of all races often. i want to ask you one last question, you made news recently when lea lyrics that you wrote as a semi professional rap artist before you were elected came out talked about killing snitches. that seemed like something maybe you would want to repudiate. you would want to say boy, i'm sorry i suggested it was a good idea to, quote, kill snitches. what's your position on that? >> so my position is for one, we often hear about my old lyrics, but they don't pay attention to the new lyrics. they don't pay attention to the new distances. that was at a time when i was an artist. i was using my art -- i was using my asimplies and metaphors as we do in rap. but i don't stand by those

things that i said as well as we're talking nine years ago. and a great man said don't be so quick to cob item those who don't do as you do or say as you say as quick. there was a time when you don't do the same things -- do the same things that you do now. >> tucker: all right. >> i would like for people to pay attention to the current situation and the fight that we are putting up and the distances that we are taking rather than old lyrics from 9, 10 years ago. >> tucker: mr. franks, thanks for joining us, i appreciate it? >> no problem. thank you. >> tucker: last week we had dave portman on bar stool sports stool a t-shirt he came up. at the time the girding for a lawsuit. but they have thankfully backed down in the powerful face of dave who joins to us celebrate his victory against the mega lift the nfl.

how did you win? how did you beat the nfl? nobody does that. >> i don't really know. i found out as i was walking out of the office, i think, thursday that they submitted. i would use the analogy we said either pick up a sword and fight or roll over and let us pet your belly like auto dog and goodell rolled over and we are petting his belly, legs going. i don't have the recipe but they rolled over so it's great. >> tucker: basically they are afraid of the power that you we would as the head of sports. >> i think said we didn't have a trademark we did. they got called on and they rolled over. >> tucker: good for you. good to see justice prevail. the nfl is in a tough spot. lost a ton of viewers and i think they are worried it's fair to say. you follow this for a living, why do you think that is? what's the core problem in the nfl? >> well, i think it's a combination of things mostly i think there is more competition. there are so many different ways to view different

whether it be sports, entertainment channels the internet. they have got to fight for eyeballs and they are not doing a great job with it. he has lost touch, goodell has, with the general people. all those facts coming together. competition number one. places like us that they can consume content a million different ways it's hard to keep attention spans. >> tucker: do you think taking attention against the famed new england football franchise might have hurt the nfl in the end when you mess with tom brady, do you think their car mick consequences to that? >> well, what do you think? of course. i mean any time they mess with basically a -- you run the risk of running into the repercussions. that's what happened. >> tucker: so you tried to worwarn the nfl. >> that's just a fact. >> tucker: do you think they regret not listening to you, bawferls i think you raised this years ago when you said you guys ar raiders of the lost

arcark. you are pulling the tiki off the stone. have they paid attention to your wisdom. >> they haven't to this point i think roger goodell refuses to exis admit that we exist. wee have gone to jail. last time we checked he said he has not heard of us. he has not apologized formally but we await that. >> tucker: i heard you had a beesting today. >> major beesting. laying at the pool in miami and was i just relaxing and nextening i knew i was stung by a be. my finger blew up. i'm here and it's 9:00 on a friday and that speaks to my work ethic. >> tucker: almost like a mailman it doesn't matter what nature throws at you bull forward. >> the mail then through. this again, you know, i'm not going to disparage the mailman. i know i'm here. did i my job to quote bell belichick. i'm on with you. it's 9:00. i'm in miami on vacation and i'm punching that clock

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