missile interceptors really in alaska and other interceptors down in vanderburgh air force base in southern california, would have been the missiles i tried to intercept the ballistic missile up in space. so the interceptors would not have been fired from hawaii. was notable though is last year that admiral told congress, he things more interceptors need to go to hawaii. right now the interceptors there are on destroyers and cruises. there is that sad missile system which is the missiles pennsylvania hurting guam and south korea. that does not exist in hawaii right now. >> so this goes to the core of where the conversation went with the congresswoman. basically tell the president to be more direct. with kim jong-un. because of the fact that people living hawaii maybe people living along the west coast of

the united states, they are all in harms way if you will. if this dictator is able to go to continue with his nuclear appetite to develop weapons that can hit the united states of america. the president has been tough and south korea layers have even said he is being tough to bring kim jong-un onto the table to talk. talk false alarm but the greater picture here stemming from the false alarm in the fact that there competencies are so high in the fairness so apparently real then you have a congresswoman and a senator concerned about 1.3 million people who live on the island of hawaii. >> must not forget that the un security council passed three resolutions last year putting hard extensions. and many officials including the defense secretary james mattis think the sanctions are really starting to impact north korea and to hurt.

especially with winter approaching and oil imports being cut off to north korea. so many officials here thank north korea did come to the table with south korea in the past few days to work out a deal with the olympics and have for break bread, if you will. >> and the president said as well in an earlier tweet about the meeting coming up. and even in a news conference. he said he welcomes the possibility of them talk you beyond -- them talking beyond this. and now, you say the military would have prepared for this. and as you know, we are in the course of budgetary restraints. and you've talked about this a lot and reported on this. our readiness.how might that impact us going forward to prepare for this kind of threat that we have?

you talk about the thaad missiles. we do not have enough budgetary components going into the military, might we lose on the end of not having enough equipment to bolster readiness and make sure we are short of a victory? >> the possibility, keep in mind that there is only 44 interceptors in the ground. interceptor missiles between this air force base in alaska and another air force base in southern california. that is 44 missiles. if any of those miss wife there is a north korean missile that does come to the nicest, is a fairly limited number to shoot that down just for missile. >> i agree. that certainly is not enough if you look at the whole game plan. it is the military strategy that you have more than enough so that you have an overwhelming force in order to

repel any type of aggression towards the united states. >> that is correct. keep in mind, while north korea did successfully test three intercontinental ballistic missiles for the first time in history last year, excuse me, also one this year. it is notable they have not yet mastered the ability of a reit warhead reenter the earths atmosphere. as you know going from space back down into the earth enter the atmosphere there is a lot of pressure. so far the warheads, the test capsules or whatever you want to call have broken up when entering earths atmosphere. while north korea is getting closer by the minute, about a month as hr mcmaster has one, it is not what they have not demonstrated the ability to hit the united states yet. although the last missile went 2300 miles into space. keep in mind that is over 10 times higher than the orbit of the international space station. >> that is a mild to high. all it takes is one to be

correct and to get right. always appreciate you lucas. an annapolis ground everyone. i just had to applaud your work for the service of this country. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> 11 people talking about what it must have felt like, sounded like and be like if you are on hawaii. we have someone with us now, allison guzman vacationing there right now. everyone wants to know, where were you, what happened, what does it feel like and what did you do? >> it was crazy! we were staying on the west side of a -- on the island. they sent that out and actually i was panicked. my boyfriend panic. we all rushed downstairs trying to find the closest stateroom to hide possibly.

we went outside to see if they were neighbors up and about. one neighbor seemed very lax about it. he said well, what are we going to do? where are we going to hide? we are on an island! so we tried calling 911. probably three times. to see if they can give us information. all of the lines were busy. one of our friends has a relative on the naval base over here and he said it was not addressed so we were freaking out little more standing outside the balcony trying to see if there was anything in the ocean or the sky. we sat on it for a couple of minutes trying to find news channels and updates. we were finding that twitter was the updates for us. one of the representatives said it was a false alarm. so that was a 30 or 40 minutes. >> that is so credible to think about what it would be like and to hear what you went through! that must've been so scary.

one of the things i have not heard is people calling 911. that makes sense. you call 9-1-1 and see where to go, what to do. but then we are hearing that, how long did it take for you to get the second alert that it was a false alarm? we are hearing over 30 minutes. was that the case? >> it was 39 or 45 minutes after. >> and once you saw that, i would imagine you might say, which one do we believe? i do not know if you had the thought of you know one of the things written by initially before we found out it was someone that had a wrong button.maybe the system had been hacked. what was dorothy or my brain so that second alert that it was a false alarm for. >> we figured that maybe it is safe. we started driving out. the second alarm kind of calmed it for us. st. pete on twitter earlier than the alarm saying that it was a false alarm.

initially, we were, by that point. >> where are you from? >> fort lauderdale, florida. i'm sure you can imagine it was a certain way to wake up this morning. >> absolutely. what happens now? one of the things we've heard. and i'm glad you're with us seeking give us your eyeballs. where people running into the street, you describe how it was, where you were. but now that it has calmed down, do people seem, i mean obviously hawaii is very chill. but the people going back to their vacation mode or mode of just going back about their business? and also, my second question, what you think about the fact that this was caused by somebody hitting a wrong button? >> well to adjust the first question, it definitely has resumed into vacation mode. we on the north shore right now, there is a lot of children

running about, families. since green bay there is. i mean everything looks fine. as far as someone causing all of this panic, the initial panic in the morning. i thought it was very irresponsible. especially, hawaii is a huge tourist attraction. it is last thing you want to hear on vacation that something terrible to happen. but everything is fine and that is the main point. >> thank you for bringing us your first-hand perspective of what things were like. again, it was 8:07 am local time. so many received this emergency message that the incoming ballistic missile was heading your way, take shelter. this was not a drill. it was we initially heard, now a few hours past. some people are settling back down. we will hear more and we hope that you and your friends from

fort lauderdale, you will be able to enjoy the rest of your vacation. maybe the bars are busy right now but hope that you will be able to enjoy the rest of your time there. think -- west related to maybe the bars are open and a lot of people are trying to find relief. maybe comedy or whatever. prayer or whatever. find it. let's bring in bryan llenas who has been following this for us. a crazy different people in hawaii but certainly, a false alarm but also in alarm as a wake-up call. to be aware of the threats out there. >> exactly right. this is just a nightmare. we heard from the tourist in fort lauderdale and hawaii. we start to see tweets but right now we are getting an idea of what it was like. imagine if you were in hawaii with your family sitting at the t.v. at 8:07 am. watching a soccer match and then an alert came on that a

nuclear ballistic missile was heading towards hawaii. look at this video. this will give you an idea what this was like for many people in hawaii. [video] the us pacific command has discovered a missile threat to hawaii. this is not a drill. >> i mean, incredible! this is not a drill. that message was about 40 seconds long. that was the reality in which many people woke up this morning on hawaii and at 8:07 am. we started to get a better idea of the timeline. the emergency preparedness agency said he tweeted within 30 minutes that was a false alarm. the problem is that many people did not get the false alarm emergency alert on their cell phones until 30 minutes after the initial alert went off. this is from the hawaii emergency preparedness. this is the game plan. this is it. it is 20 minutes from launch until impact.

if there were to be a missile launch in north korea. there will be five minutes for detection and a chance for the defenses the door from the us pacific command and to stop the missile in the next five minutes there will be a morning amnesty is learned. in the sirens and emergency notifications will be sent out. that gives people 10 minutes if they're lucky to take individual action. this was a nightmare and scary for so many people. it is also a reminder of the route that we are facing but also, we do not have a solution. the solution is individual action to hide. to run inside of the building, preferably into a basin. if you are in a car, got on the ground and lay flat. that is the best option. for many people we have seen these accounts on twitter. people were texting their families. they were saying goodbye, crying, hiding. cars came to a screeching halt not knowing what to do.

look at this. other mattresses in the bathtub with my wife, bailey's and my in-laws. please lord, let this bomb threat not be real. we know this was a wrong button push. for 38 minutes, and the panic and the nightmare of this, people were sheltering in the basement. people were crying and holding each other. it was scary for a few minutes. again, 13 minutes after 8:07 am, the alert first came out. the emergency management had been able to get onto the twitter account and say century there was a false alarm. it was a very brief statement. and it was not again until another 20 minutes or so that the alert came out. just a nightmare. but it is chilling to see a video. watching a soccer match and then the alert comes on.

what do you do? >> that was chilling. you can hear the person saying in a calm voice, this is not a drill. so as not to cause any panic but everyone walking off of the soccer field. perhaps to find some way of finding safety. an interesting point that you brought up there. there's nothing hawaii to protect anyone from nuclear attack. in israel, they actually have bomb shelters that they created by the people. someone just emailed me and sent me pictures of what those look like. perhaps in the future of this newscast, we can share some of those pictures and how they prepare there. maybe that is the details of this false alarm as the congresswoman talked about as well as our colleague, at the pentagon, that we have to be prepared. and how the military could use interceptors to bring down the missile but we are talking as if that were to happen.

but the fortunate thing is that this is a false alarm. we have time to examine ourselves. >> that is exactly right. right now there are no bomb shelters for these people to go to. i think that is the anger part of this. sometimes when you're scared to go through different types of emotions. you are scared and then there is relief. and there's anger that you are just putting this process with your family. a nightmare scenario. now hopefully there can be action because i know hawaii is far away from any people in the united states. but it is a very real threat for 70 americans. 1.3 million people. and there is no relocation plan! emergency preparedness says that. there is no relocation plan. in 10 minutes, where are you supposed to relocate to? a very real threat. we are not trying to alarm people but is important to realize. i did not think this was the only plan we have. it isn't until it happens to

you realize. and i did not realize there was a 20 minute window. i think many people are starting to realize that. it is alarming. >> not to push any further by when you hold it up one more time? was the only -- we can do better than that. >> thank you. >> part of the plan is laying on the floor. as we move through this developing story, the governor of hawaii has said, i think one of the alert was a false alarm but the public must have confidence in our emergency alert system. that is the governor saying that. and you look at what the alert system is, what happened today and who knows what will happen next. hopefully this will never happen again. but the people of hawaii have to imagine their confidence has maybe taken a hit.

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we continue to follow making developments of the false alarm of a ballistic missile coming into hawaii. and a lot of people disturbed by receiving the alarm that this was not a false alarm. the fact that it was a real test in the real situation. as a result of that people began to look for shelter. fortunately, it was a false alarm. but it is still awakening many people to the reality that something has to be done on a more proactive basis. to safeguard the people of hawaii as well as people all along the west coast. for that matter across the united states of america because of the escalating tensions and nuclear threat. the potential for that from north korea. we have a congressional reporter for usa today and she has come in to join us to talk about the issue and give us a

perspective, some context and what you have reporting on with north korea and the nuclear appetite that kim jong-un who has nyc continues to wield this power in the face of so many un sanctions that had kept his people mired in poverty? >> ugly today was a false alarm. but the fact of the reality is they do have this in place for something to really happen. we are at escalating tensions with north korea. our president and the north korean president, sort of our trading jabs constantly it seems like just a really heated situation right now. it is kind of dampened a little bit with north and south korea agreed to talk and north korea actually sending people to the olympics and so they are hoping that it might calm things but the truth is that people really are scared. this is very real fear and hopefully people of hawaii will

not ignore and alarm at this in the future because it really is a very real situation. >> i do not think it will be a crying wolf situation. because to your point earlier today on our program here, the congresswoman spoke to us and she was very clear that she was angry about this false alarm. certainly, happy that for her family and she includes all of the 1.3 million constituents is being family members, but she was angry about the fact that we just talked about. the trading of rhetoric between the president of the united states and kim jong-un. albeit, south korea has talked about the tough rhetoric they have believed that has helped kim jong-un come to the table as well as sanctions. of course we know that the secretary of state has said sanctions seems to be working as well. but to the point of the

congresswoman, she is a mr. president, get to the table is man. take to them face-to-face direct. is that possible? >> that is definitely possible. think we are seeing that sort of from secretary of state rex tillerson. there is definitely hoping to go the diplomatic route. but the president repeatedly has tweeted talks don't work, take basically not off the table. so those things are people in hawaii, they might be a little scarier there saying please, just talk to him! it really depends on the day and had kim jong-un and how president trump are feeling. but i do think there are behind the scenes attempts to do the diplomatic conversational route. >> the diplomatic conversational route, one can argue why the president is frustrated by that route. because of the fact that kim jong-un continues to flaunt his aggression in the face of the western allies in the face of japan and in the face of even china for that matter.

so there's still a lot of work to be done on the table. and they have vladimir putin complementing kim jong-un as being a great strategist. there is a lot too unwieldy here. it is very convoluted. and it is very delicate and i can understand why the president would have to be tough in his rhetoric. but you have to carry a big stick also. >> right! there's a lot to deal with here and i do not envy the people having to deal with it. that being said, it does feel that there is progress? was it president taking credit. and as he pointed out south korea given credit for his involvement in that. hoping because south korea and the us are allies, that might be able to calm tensions but we will see what happens after today. who knows when north korea

finds out that the us has alert system, i am not quite sure. >> i have a feeling talk shows will be abuzz with this tomorrow. we will see a lot in we may see the president talk about this as well. eliza collins, usa today, thank you. >> thanks! >> when this happened we were all wondering if this could have been some kind of hack or cybersecurity situation. we want to bring in a cybersecurity analyst and senior fellow at the center for digital government who joins us on the phone now. we talked you many times before in the past. usually about your information being private and how not to get hacked with your bank account and things like that. but this is such a different situation. today. while we are now hearing from officials in hawaii that if someone hit a wrong button and a control and it sounds like, a place that this type of alert, that there was a ballistic missile heading their way in hawaii. to seek shelter.

this is not a drill. i really come a catastrophic error to say the least. when we look at the idea of this being a possible cyber threat. the security of the system, what you think about this type of system where something like an accident could happen like this when you hit one button? >> i mean, who in the world desires a system that allows you to press one button to send out a nuclear warning for everyone from an emergency action type of situation? we bring up a good point. three years back there was a twitter account attack and they said an explosion went off in the white house for the market went crazy and things happen. this was the impact that information can have. in this place i want to look at the type of controls but if it was as easy for someone to make a mistake, also one has to do is get in there, with some switches and if there is not to

factor authorization.or like on a submarine it takes more than that to launch a nuclear missile. it should be like that with this. this impact is horrendous. especially that kim jong-un has a capability to launch a missile that far to hit hawaii. >> i'm glad that you brought the two key system. because in our minds we think that that is what is in place in situations like this. and someone cannot just press one button. say your cybersecurity expertly left in the state of hawaii calls you and says we need your help. what would you do at this point to ensure that this never happens again? >> probably the first thing is by the people involved in letting this dog in the first place because i mean, just for what they did. however we have to do is if somebody will implement something like this you have to escalate this it will take higher approval. you cannot release nuclear weapons without authorization to the present. someone cannot do it just because they want to. there should be a system in place that allows people to

express these communication systems to say this is the system. you concur, do we have authority to activate? maybe they have those particles and their and if someone did not follow those, it is a training issue. a policy issue. but my goodness! from a digital standpoint, there would be no reason for this to go out for someone to not give authority. >> spoke about the delay in the second message that went out to let people know it was a false alarm. 11 people were already hearing the chairman of the fcc is launching a full investigation. obviously the governor we have heard from. many lawmakers say there will be an investigation. but as we sit back for a second and think about the over 30 minutes where people are now describing chaos, pandemonium, hiding in bathtubs, putting

mattresses over them. running into the street, calling 911, trying to reach loved ones on the mainland to say goodbye because they think a ballistic missile is heading their way. 35 minutes. somewhere around there. think about how long that is! why couldn't there had been someone made a mistake, they realized it was made and could have taken 30 minutes? to realize the mistake and then send out the second portion of the alert? or did it take that long for the alert to circulate and get out? what do you think happened there? >> my goodness! all you have to do is watch facebook. i saw screenshots of the alerts that came across peoples phones. it does not take that much. the most charitable explanation i can give is companies for the other is that if it is that easy to launch an alert, why is it that easy to launch a message that says sorry, false alarm. it should never have gone on the first place. but that is where the investigation will be key. a breakdown in communications, policy, training.

this is no different than the military engaging in operations or law enforcement or emergency responders, emergency management you train and train. if this happens, this is what we do. if a false alarm happens how to get the information back out? the same system to put out the alert could have been as quickly to put out the false alarm alert. >> a lot of people making that point today. officials say the public must have confidence in the emergency alert systems. and it will maybe be a tall order now. we hope that it will get there. morgan, thank you for your time. >> will continue to follow developments of this breaking story. the good news is that it has been a false alarm. the reality is that we have a lot to do! we will be that -- we will be back with more. you won't believe how much is new at red lobster...

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the fact that they received quite a scare. the scare of their lifetime, if you will. for this emergency alert, to find shelter. this is not a drill. then 35 minutes or 38 minutes later, to find out it was a false alarm. in the span of that time many people seeking shelter, taking cover as best they could. in an area that really has no coverage. in a place where you cannot go to high from any kind of nuclear weapon. the good thing is that it was not real. the stark reality is that it gives us cause. it makes us think how we can become more proactive in our preparedness for such a time as this. let's bring in lucas at the pentagon. this is not to be dramatic. but, there is a real and

ever-present danger given the threat that we have from the kingdom of north korea. >> there is. let's go back to that timeline. because i think the slowness of the emergency management association in hawaii, it will be very apparent. at 8:07 am local time, the initial test was out to the 1.3 million residents and those visiting the island. 30 minutes later, the same agency at hawaii, emergency management association tweets out no missile threat to hawaii. 13 minutes later, that tweet goes up you not to the phone not a wider left but a tweet. so why did it take another 25 minutes for a wider alert to say false alarm? and the us pacific command.

track and monitor missile launch is based in hawaii, they sent their statement out at 8:35 am local time. it means it took another 10 minutes for this widespread text message for all of the forms to say, this is a false alarm. total, it took 38 minutes from the initial time. why did it take that long and why were 13 minutes after the initial message went out they were saying was false alarm but it took 38 total minutes to correct this?does this make sense? >> it does. it reminds me of our intelligence gathering and our intelligence sharing. because we did not share enough intelligence with each different agency. when we had 9/11. the good thing is that this is a false alarm. but it should awaken us to the fact that perhaps we need more sharing between the military

command, the state government, federal government and whoever is putting their finger on the button. to be sure that we have some redundancy measures in order to protect the public from being cast into deep fear from a false threat. >> yes and a hot wash if you will. all of the people will be getting together with pacific command and they will figure out could there have been more talking. but i think there are serious questions about if 13 minutes into this, false alert, the hawaii emergency management agency knew it was a false alarm. why did it take another 25 minutes to correct that? a lot of questions being asked. certainly the military will be involved as well. >> are you hearing anything from senior leaders at the pentagon at this particular

juncture? or still waiting to find out more details. >> mantle that defense secretary james mattis has been briefed. he has been updated. he is communicating to the white house. and of course the presidents team in florida you know a lot of officials are putting their hands up and say this was not us. this is a state issue, this is the emergency management agency, not a federal government entity. we have nothing to do this. david pacific command did their best to correct this as quickly as possible. >> there is going to be a lot to follow on this. as you know those kind of investigations, they will get to the bottom of this and make sure it does not happen again. if it should, they will have some sort of countermeasure to protect the public. lucas tomlinson, thank you for your reporting, as always. >> not to get peoples attention like an alert in. that is what people initially

saw this morning. 8:07 am local time. there was a ballistic missile threat inbound to hawaii. seek immediate shelter. this is not a drill. in a clarification as they were talking about. some 30 minutes later that it was a false alarm and we are now learning that it was a button hit by mistake. so we are now being told officials will be holding a news conference in hawaii. 6 pm eastern. we will have more on this after this break.

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we continue to bring you the latest from hawaii. residents receiving a dire warning on their pro se. an emergency alert said a ballistic missile was incoming. seek immediate shelter. that it was not a drill. that was the initial message that went out at 8:07 am local time. residents there then got

another text message about 30 minutes later saying that was a false alarm. we want to bring your attention to a 6 pm eastern news conference that will be happening from officials in hawaii. they will come to microphones and discuss what happened. as we wait for that, let's talk about what happened today with retired u.s. army lieutenant, a former green beret commander and a fox news contributor. thank you for being here today and again thank you for your service. >> thank you. what an amazing day. >> what a day indeed! we are waiting to hear of more of an explanation of all officials. no it was not a cyber attack, it was not a hat. someone hit a wrong button in a control room during a shift change that pushed this out to everyone. i want to get your initial reaction when you heard this. >> there are so many substantive areas that this really highlights. from the cyber element that you mentioned to where you draw the

line. the defense authority and civil authorities, ballistic missile defenses, and overall policy. which with states with north korea and iran seeking nuclear programs. to answer your question, the first thing that jumped out it was actually the cyber element. was this a hack? what kind of the present the local and state civil authorities have on their network. in particular north korea, is a lot of focus on the nuclear program and with the united states but one thing not covered is there are pensive cyber program. the north koreans are one of the most capable in the world. they actually have programs where they groom kids from early age, as mathematicians and partition them off to be cyber warriors. and they have some of the best

and recently they have stolen korean war plans, they have all types of unit we have ransomed for money and they recently, we detected attacks on the us cyber program and then you have the nightmare scenario. all of us remember that grew up in the cold war that the movie wargames with matthew broderick. the ability to get inside our system and what if this was a strategic command or norad or the nuclear triad that has some type of false alarm. all of those things jump out at me. and then as a resident of florida, as were up there, everyone that we knew had to duck and cover in drills left over from the cuban crisis. i remember downtown, yellow

nuclear science that denoted shelters. and it was one more thing. are we moving back toward that era? without a second cold war with russia and these rogue states. >> people are asking that question. as we learn more about what the people of hawaii have as their emergency plan, which includes getting flat on the floor, stay away from windows. there really is nowhere to go. as we know now, it takes 15 or 20 minutes for something to hit hawaii if it were to come from north korea. what do you think should be happening now with your expertise? >> there are two pieces. there are people who obviously, our true experts at this. but there is to survive the actual blast. if you are -- >> we may have lost are aligned with lt. col michael waltz. i want to thank you for being with us today.

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get some help. >> people are calling 911. we have been talking to folks there on the island. people got into their bathtubs, put mattresses over them. we have people that we know there. i have a friend from sacramento who now lives in hawaii. his name is jeremy. he said today on social media that he got a call from his mom who said honey, there is a nuclear attack happening in hawaii. i love you. >> wow. >> and that is the type of thing that happened. those are the stories that we will continue to hear. we are just getting into this now. the families that were affected, the fear. >> impactful. my friend is a great film maker survived mount st. helens that eruption that volcano he covered that. he moved his family six years ago. they have been living there. nevertheless, it turns out laura and as we have been reporting, it was a false alarm. someone on a shift change hit the wrong button. and that resulted that we're talking about this.

>> the governor came out and said that we are expecting a news conference at 6:00 p.m. eastern, which is an hour from now, roughly, and we will hear more information about that. many people wanting to get down to the bottom of this, you know, how could one person hit one button -- >> particularly a congresswoman who is angry and wants to get just beyond this and also get to deal with the nuclear threat from north korea. that will do it for us. i'm kelly wright. >> i'm laura ingle. thank you very much for being with us. coming up next, the capable eric shawn and arthel neville. >> she's right there ready to come on. we will see you soon.

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