get symbicort free for up to one year. visit saveonsymbicort.com today to learn more. if you can't afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. we begin with a fox news alert. one heck of a false alarm sending shockwaves through hawaii after months of nuclear tensions with north korea. hawaiians woke up this morning to an emergency alert on their cell phones saying in all caps ballistic missile threat was headed their way. and urging residents and tourists to seek shelter. welcome to a new hour inside america's news headquarters. i'm arthel neville. >> i'm eric shawn. well, it was panicking and frightening. hawaiian officials issued a correction on the false alarm about ten minutes later but they did that on twitter. they apparently did not manage to send a second push notification saying there was no real threat, that the first one

was false until about 38 minutes after the false alarm. that of course prolonging the emotion and the panic. hawaiian officials say human error caused this false alarm. a worker during a shift change actually pushed the wrong button. the white house saying that this was a state-controlled exercise, meaning it wasn't run by the federal authorities. hawaiian congresswoman tulsi gabbard has confirmed on twitter that a missile was not heading to hawaii and honolulu's mayor also tweeting quote the ballistic missile warning that was issued is a false alarm. repeat false alarm but that did little to try and calm the nerves. bryan llenas following the story in our new york bureau. >> nightmare scenario, 38 minutes of agonizing just tension on that island in hawaii. this all started at 8:07 this morning hawaiian time. the alert came out and as we saw with that message, it said ballistic missile threat in bound. that is on its way to hawaii,

seek immediate shelter. this is not a drill. this activated the emergency alert system in hawaii. that is people were watching tv at their homes at 8:07 this morning and an alert went on their television, letting them know that there was an in bound missile coming their way. this is what it was like to see that on your television. >> the u.s. pacific command has detected a missile threat to hawaii. a missile may impact on land or sea within minutes. this is not a drill. >> i mean, incredible, the hawaii emergency management agency tweeted 13 minutes later, no missile threat to hawaii. that's it. no missile threat to hawaii after the alerts had come out at 8:07. but it took an additional 20 minutes for the emergency management agency to reissue a push alert text saying that there is no missile threat or danger to the state of hawaii, repeat, false alarm. now, hawaii emergency management says someone pushed -- well

actually the governor says that someone at the hawaii emergency management pushed the wrong button causing this entire nightmare scenario to kind of go off for 38 minutes. someone at the hawaii emergency management actually -- well, they took responsibility. listen. >> this is regrettable. it won't happen again because the criticality of the the time of this type of event and the credibility of this alarm going out is critical of us saving lives. >> this was the reaction of people, under mattresses, in the bathtub with my wife baby and in laws, john peterson tweeted. please lord let this bomb threat not be real. incredible. more tweets, sydney ember people were sheltering in the basement. people were crying and holding each other. it was actually scary for a few minutes, and then there was also, you know, there's not only

scare, but there's also outrage. we had a couple senators and representatives of hawaii go on twitter. senator, again, false alarm, he tweeted. what happened today is totally inexcusable. the whole state was terrified. there needs to be tough and quick accountability and a fixed process. and now if you take a look at this full screen, this is directly from the hawaii emergency management agency. this gives you an idea of what the plan is in the event of an actual ballistic missile attack from north korea. from launch to impact, hawaiians only have 20 minutes. that's 20 minutes to react. so the u.s. pacific command on hawaii sends a message to the state, which then warns all of the citizens on hawaii. now, that only gives citizens 10 minutes to react b. and that reaction by the way in terms of plan there are no fallout shelters, there are no designated blast or fallout shelters. there are no relocation plans. the plan is to either stay

inside and if you are driving, jump out of your vehicle and lie flat on the ground. so a real wake-up call not only for people in hawaii but for everyone in the united states about this real threat and also just scary about the amount of time that one has to react to such a threat. 38 minutes went by between that alert and the false alarm alert and it only takes 20 minutes from launch to impact if a missile were to be launched from north korea. eye opening for many people, for all of us. >> that it is, bryan, shocking, unbelievable but also as you say opens questions about the reaction. we will be talking to dr. manny alvarez about that in a few minutes. thank you. arthel: joining me now here on set is gordan chang, the foreign affairs journalist and author of "nuclear showdown north korea takes on the world". gordon, so happy to have you here with me on set on this very disturbing and frightening day because as you see people -- as you well know, people's nerves are on edge.

as you have seen the day's events unfold, i want to know where your mind goes to first. >> well, i think that we were fortunate that this was not in philadelphia because in philadelphia right now there are 69,100 fans at lincoln financial field watching the eagles play the falcons. if you are at a big stadium like that and 40,000 or so cell phones go off with the alert, you can imagine the panic. so, you know, in a sense, we got a wake-up wall, in a sense that we -- wake up-call, in a sense that we now now what we have to do not only in hawaii and the other 49 states, territories as well, we're not prepared for this. we don't know what's coming. >> in terms of getting prepared, you just heard bryan llenas' report that if this were real and not a test, hawaiians would have had 15 to 20 minutes to take shelter. what shelter? >> there is no shelter. for people in the rest of the united states, there is no shelter either because, you know, after the end of the cold war, you can understand that we

sort of went lax on civil defense. right now, you know, within let's say a year, the north koreans will be able to deliver a nuke to any place in the american homeland. arthel: i want you to slow down and repeat that. what did you say? >> within a year the north koreans will be able to land a nuke in american homeland. they have the range. they don't have good guidance and they don't have heat shielding, but this is just a question of months, maybe a year for them to be able to perfect that so that they will be able to threaten us, and we have missile defenses, but they are not really that good. so, you know, in a sense, we are at the mercy of kim jong-un. i don't think he will launch against us for a lot of reasons, but nonetheless, that's only because we're deterring him, not because we can stop him. >> so not only are we here in this states, people around the world, bad people, good people, you know, the good guys, the bad

actors, they are watching the coverage. they are listening to analysis from people like yourself. you're an expert. so when you have someone like kim jong-un watching, what does he take away from this? >> he can see that we're not prepared, and he can see with just a little bit of doing something, not even launching, he can create panic in the united states. for instance, let's say that they actually hack the emergency system -- >> does this embolden him -- does he feel like he now has leverage and won't enter possibly talks, the talks that are going to happen? >> i'm sure he feels he has leverage. he has very effective cyber capabilities. for instance, he could hack into the hawaii emergency management system. or he could hack into the new york system, >> not just him, we have the bad actors. he is a bad actor, but we have the other people, the hackers, the would be terrorists. >> you have them, but you also have got the big nation states. you have russia, china, iran, north korea, they all have advanced cyber capabilities. we know in the history of

warfare that the people who are on offense usually beat the people who are on defense. we do have cyber defenses, but we know the north koreans are very good at it. they hack sony pictures entertainment in 2014. >> are we on defense? >> we are on defense. >> with that said gordon, as the world watches, again friends and foe alike, what should president trump do? should he address the nation in a more formal setting in front of a camera? should he tweet about it? how important is his tone as not only the citizens of the united states are looking to the leader to guide us through this, but also again foes and friends alike are watching as well? >> the most important sing that we have to instill -- the most important thing is we have to instill a sense of deterrence with the north koreans. we have discussions with the soviets and chinese now.

they are stable states. north korea is stable but it could be unstable. there are a lot of disturbing signs out of pyongyang. our military doesn't talk to his military. that's a problem for us. we need to discuss this with the north koreans. i hope the south koreans instill that sense of deterrence. i think we have to impose a lot of costs on china before they come to the table. >> gordon chang, thank you very much, always a pleasure to talk to you and get your take on these. thank you very much, eric. eric: thank you. imagine looking at your cell phone it tells you there's a ballistic missile heading your way. we have new reaction coming up from the trump administration about this. and the white house called it a state exercise, raising the question this afternoon, should the feds, meaning the u.s. military take over that state responsibility to warn us? a live report ahead.

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arthel: if you are just tuning into the news, you are hearing that the people in hawaii are still recovering from the shock of a false alarm happening this morning, 8:07 local time, a cell

phone warning of an incoming ballistic missile. they looked at their cell phone. all caps that is what they read. it was a mistake thankfully but imagine the panic and confusion. the white house is monitoring all of this from mar-a-lago and phil keating is joining us. >> the scare of a lifetime. president trump was just wrapping up his morning golf game at the nearby trump international golf club when this alert first went out via e-mail and cell phones in hawaii, a 20 minute false alarm, until the correction came out and people receiving the alerts on their cell phones didn't get it for a full 38 minutes. 38 minutes thinking that perhaps a nuclear war head was on its way to honolulu. by the time the president returned to palm beach at his mar-a-lago estate, his winter white house, a white house official released this statement the president has been briefed on the state of hawaii's

emergency management exercise. this was purely a state exercise. and pacific command responsible for the pacific region this statement from the commander -- has detected no ballistic missile threat to hawaii. earlier message was sents -- sent in error. the state of hawaii will send a correction message as soon as possible. this was the original alert, 8:07 a.m. hawaii time. quote ballistic missile threat in bound to hawaii. seek immediate shelter. this is not a drill. again, it took 38 minutes for a cell phone correction to go out saying it was all a false alarm. and the governor released this statement after it was all done and over. quote, while i'm thankful this morning's alert was a false alarm, the public must have confidence in our emergency alert system. i'm working to get to the bottom of this so we can prevent an error of this type in the

future. that error being blamed on a state worker who accidentally pressed the wrong button as he was leaving from his shift and a new person was coming in. the federal corrections commission is also investigating, the fcc regulates state as well as interstate traffic, communication, be it, radio, tv, satellite, cable in all 50 states as well as d.c. and the u.s. territories. they will get to the bottom of exactly how the this happened and if it's determined that this mistake false alarm was in fact intentional, there will be some incredibly heavy ramifications because seriously, arthel, of all things you could receive a false alarm about in this world, a nuclear war head coming at you is about as bad as it could possibly get. >> and that is correct. okay, phil keating, thank you very much for that update there in mar-a-lago. eric? eric: thanks, arthel.

a journalist from the washington examiner. first of all, what phil just said, it's a state worker, i mean should state workers, with all due respect to them, should they actually have responsibility for something as serious as this? i mean they run the dmv. you are asking someone who has these type of responsibilities to have such a major impact in world affairs? >> well, right, happy weekend. and i think that this probably is a surprise to -- surprise to me actually that we're hearing that state workers have such a responsibility to alert of an incoming missile attack. so i think that's probably something they will take a look at. i think knowing president trump, it's something, you know, he's big on military being responsible for things, giving them responsibility, delegating responsibility to military. i see that perhaps happening. you know, just imagine if this was a federal issue, what we would be hearing about this if president trump did have something to do with it. eric: it seems like it is a convoluted system i mean when you consider the fact if you know there's an incoming missile, it is going to be the military. it is going to be at pacific

command. it is going to be norad which is now north com but they have to get the information to the state to then send out that. it seems to me that logic would say that this is something that maybe should be run by the pentagon. >> right, in terms of systems, we hear about this button that president trump has that it turns out it orders him a diet coke, in this case in hawaii this button actually alerts that there's an incoming nuclear attack. i think that's a shock to a lot of people, obviously a shock in hawaii and i think your previous guest was saying this kind of revealed the lack of preparation. there was a report in the new york times saying there was a wrestling match at a high school, when they got the alert, the grouped the students in the middle of the gym and trying to decide how do we prepare for this? for the state that will be a whole other issue. >> during the cold war we had nuclear bomb shelters. you still see the radioactive signs in some places in some of our major cities. should the government -- should we be better prepared for this? we had reports of panic, of people just crying and breaking

down, going into closets and not knowing what to do. >> right, we would hope that the government is prepared for this kind of thing, assuming this really was a completely innocent mistake, i guess you would take that into account. but hopefully in the event that something like this were to seriously take place, there would be more of an advance notice. there might be better -- at least the local authorities would be more prepared to how to instruct people how to respond to something like this. so i hope that we learn more about that in the days to come. eric: to their credit, the state authorities, the governor and the head of the emergency management agency in hawaii, they are taking responsibility. certainly they will have an investigation. what do you think should happen in terms of an investigation, what we could learn from that, any repercussions for those involved? >> well, it is a government employee, so i say they should be fired, but we know what that means. maybe they will make some kind of decision when it comes to the employee, i don't know that we need to know the name of this person. i mean, that could go open up a whole other can of worms. but, yes, certainly we should be

given some notice of how this investigation goes forward and what the outcome of it is. >> even a redundant system. it sounds amazing, it was a shift change and apparently did push the wrong button, say officials, you think you would have like -- you know, you go on the computer you want to change something, it says are you sure you want to do this? there's no break -- i mean there's no extra step there. >> right, or maybe the button is somewhere where it's isolated from other buttons, something like that. at least there would be some kind of precaution to make sure something like that doesn't happen. >> finally president trump was at pacific command on his way to china, he was visiting with officials there, what would you suggest to him in terms of what the federal government should do to better address this? >> i don't want to advise the president, though i will say about a minute ago, he was still tweeting about the michael wolff book. maybe he wants to talk about hawaii next. >> many more hours in the day. thank you very much. have a good trip back to washington. >> thank you.

arthel: as you can imagine, eric, how terrifying this morning's false alarm, false missile alarm was for the folks in hawaii. we have hawaii residents with us on the phone right now. he's a resident of hawaii. of course, dean, i can only imagine how you felt this morning, if you could tell me where were you when you saw the alert and what was your reaction? dean? >> hello? arthel: this is arthel neville at fox news headquarters in new york. i wanted to ask you, when you saw that text message, that alert come across your cell phone this morning, where were you? and what was your reaction? >> well, i was on my way to get coffee, and i sort of was in disbelief, i don't know, it seemed kind of surreal. arthel: did you continue on your

way to get coffee? did you call someone? did you text someone else to say did you see this, what's going on? >> i went to get coffee and i was talking to other people and said what's going on? do you see this? yeah, people were actually leaving. they closed the store. >> how do you feel right now, dean, considering that initial what we now know as a false alarm came in to your cell phone at 8:07 this morning and it took almost 40 minutes later for officials to send out another alert saying again this is a false alarm, and that wasn't even in all caps. how do you feel about the way they handled it? >> well, i'm just relieved that it wasn't a real thing. you know, i mean, it was a little scary, but i'm glad it's not a real missile threat, you know. arthel: right. did you -- i know you live in hawaii. do you have friends off the island, here in the mainland, anyone you called since then?

>> sure, after i left, i got on the freeway and i called my parents and i told them about it. and yeah, i told them maybe this would be the last thing, that's it. >> where are your parents? >> they are on vacation. they're in vegas. >> they were in vegas. so what was their reaction when you told them what you said to them? >> they just said be safe. but i figured like if it's a bomb, it doesn't matter if you are inside or outside, you know, you are dead. >> what would you like to see happen now, dean? i mean, as we know, this was due to a mistake, due to human error, and, you know, as eric and his guest, they were just talking about, there didn't seem to be some sort of a safeguard in preventing this person to make this human error, what would you like the state officials there to do next? >> we don't want these things to happen again because people will

take it not as seriously, so, you know, hopefully they just clean up their act. >> all right, dean, i'm glad you are safe and you seem to be a cool cookie. i have a feeling this will all kind of hit you maybe tomorrow or a few days from now. we do appreciate your time here. thank you very much. as we reported earlier, it took nearly 40 minutes for hawaii officials to send out a correction to that ballistic missile false alarm this morning. what was the holdup? we're going to get into that next. stay with us. okay folks! let's team up to get the lady of the house back on her feet. and help her feel more strength and energy in just two weeks yaaay! the complete balanced nutrition of (great tasting) ensure with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. ensure. always be you. my healthy routine helps me feel my best. so i add activia yogurt to my day. with its billions of live and active probiotics, activia may help support my digestive health, so i can take on my day. activia. now in probiotic dailies.

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eric: continuing our coverage this afternoon of the frightening alarm that really frayed nerves across hawaii this saturday, after an alert warned of an incoming ballistic missile heading towards the islands, but it turned out as we have been reporting to be a false alarm, thankfully. the message was this, send out to cell phones at 8:00 in the morning, imagine waking up at 8:00 in the morning taking a look at this on your phone where

it says emergency alert, ballistic missile threat in bound to hawaii. seek immediate shelter. this is not a drill. it took emergency officials nearly 40 minutes to send the correct message correcting that. now, they're saying an employee at the emergency management office pushed the wrong button during a shift change to send that false alarm. the white house has been briefed on all this, is monitoring the developments. officials scheduled to hold a news conference half hour from now at 6:00 p.m. eastern, 1:00 p.m. in the afternoon there. our pentagon producer is live in washington with more on reaction from the military and what's happening on their angle. hi, lucas. >> hey, eric. as you mentioned, the 1.3 million residents in the islands of hawaii woke up this morning to a startling alert, very similar to i've been told like an amber alert. you hear the alarm. you look at your phone. an in bound missile is coming. what's really striking though is the time line and what many

officials are saying is the slow response. the initial alert went out as you mentioned at 8:07, eric, but then it took another 13 minutes for hawaii's emergency management agency to tweet out, quote, no missile threat to hawaii. but as you mentioned, it took nearly 40 minutes for that full alert to go out. in fact, the u.s. pacific command, which is in charge of all military forces in the pacific, and it monitors north korean missile launches, did not detect any launch, they issued a statement at 8:35 local saying quote no detected ballistic missile threat to hawaii. earlier message was sent in error. state of hawaii will send out a correction notice as soon as possible. guess what? it took another 10 minutes from that notice at 8:45 local, hawaii emergency management agency finally sends out a correction nearly 40 minutes after the initial one went out and not only did it startle the

million residents of hawaii. of course you have tens of thousands of tourists to the island of hawaii. we have a pga golf tournament going on. interesting, eric, just less than two months ago, the state of hawaii brought back their sirens to have cold war era tests that they haven't seen in the state of hawaii in decades. that's because of course of north korea's ratcheting up ballistic missile tests. last year north korea performed over 25 tests including three tests of an intercontinental ballistic missile for the first time in north korea's history. the last missile test in november went an astonishing 2800 miles into space. that's ten times higher than the orbit of the international space station, and if one day north korea can prove its war heads can reenter the earth's atmosphere, it could be a threat to the united states. but already missile experts say america's in range, but it is noteworthy, eric, that north korea has yet to demonstrate the ability to have one of its war heads or test war heads to

reenter the earth's atmosphere. last year the head of the pacific command told congress he's weighing a decision to bring interceptor missiles to hawaii. right now if north korea were to launch any kind of missile and it was deemed a threat to hawaii or the united states, there are two locations where there are interceptor missiles, alaska, and an air force base in california. there was a successful missile test last year. only 44 interceptor missiles currently on-line right now to destroy north korean ballistic missile or any other country's ballistic missiles. there is money of course in the budget. president trump signed a 4 billion dollars increase in missile defense spending last month. there's a 700 billion dollars missile -- excuse me, 700 billion dollars defense spending plan sitting on the president's desk, but congress needs to pass a defense bill when they get back to washington next week. eric? eric: you know, lucas, as you say, this false scare it may speed that deployment of those

antiballistic missile batteries up. we will see. lucas this afternoon at the pentagon. thank you. arthel: for more on this, let's bring in military expert lieutenant colonel daniel davis. colonel davis, want to pick up on some of lucas reporting there. i want to find out your estimation -- in your estimation how serious is a ballistic missile threat from kim jong-un to the united states? >> well, right now it's probably not as strong as what some may believe. he certainly has demonstrated his ability to fire the one he fired last time in november, but as i believe he just said, you know, they have yet to prove that they can have the re-entry vehicle to survive coming back in. it is not clear that they have that nor if they have very many of them to do it. so there is the -- it does exist, it's just probably not as strong as some people might think. >> still we are also talking now about the u.s. missile defense

capabilities. talk to us about that, in terms of readiness and the amount of missile defense systems we have in place, currently. >> yeah, i don't think that we have that many missile defense systems in place. i think that's the reason why the commanders talked about wanting to bring some more of that in there. i think the larger thing which is far more effective than any missile defense shield is we need to really emphasize our military deterrent to keep kim jong-un from ever firing the missiles. we have quite a bit opportunity and resources and capabilities to let him know for sure that he would be utterly destroyed if he ever did that. now, there was a report in 38 north which is probably the best civilian information on north korea, it's out there right now, this past wednesday, and some of their senior officials went to north korea and actually talked to some of them and they scratched their heads and said they don't really understand because they know for sure -- they said it would be suicide for us to actually use any of our weapons.

they are solely for defense. i think the logic shows that that's correct. so they can be deterred, and we should focus on that more than anything else. arthel: and that's a good point, the point you make there, colonel, i want to point out, though, now a list of recent actions amid the growing fears of an attack by north korea. i'm going to pop some things on the screen here. as of december 1st, last month, you had hawaii reinstated its cold war era nuclear warning sirens scheduled to be tested the first business day of every month. guam distributed a pamphlet on nuclear attack preparedness that encouraged people to avoid using conditioner quote as it will bind the toxins to your hair and a 16 page bulletin released by emergency management authorities in california warned people to beware of radioactive -- you just said a threat from kim jong-un is not as serious or as

imminent as we in the civilian world are thinking that it is. so what is it that either defense department officials, the president as well, what message should they send to the citizens of the united states and also what should the word be as they send it to our -- to other world leaders? >> yeah, let me just flatly tell you, there will be no war on the korean peninsula unless we initiate it because north korea has no incentive to do that. so i think that we understand right away that there's not some threat that north korea is unhinged and any day they could like throw out missiles because it would again be suicidal, but because president trump, hr mcmaster, senator lindsay graham have all been so active in talking about the military option, it does have people concerned. in addition to all the ones you just put on your screen, you also had australia, you had china, province north of north korea, russia, you have a number

of people that are having these kinds of nuclear preparedness. the cdc released something earlier this week that they are making some more active measures to let people know how to respond to nuclear weapons. the threat is there, but it doesn't need to be. >> then colonel davis, you are saying that kim jong-un sees it as suicide if he were to strike first. you're also saying -- you are saying it will be more defense. you're also saying that the, you know, the powers that be here in the military and the administration, they need to tamp down their talk of possible military action. is that what i'm hearing you say? >> yes, because everybody knows north korea most pointedly understands that we have a 100 to 1 advantage on nuclear weapons, and as president trump said in his tweet earlier, his button works, and we know that for sure. north korea doesn't know for sure if theirs is going to work

but ours will. all of that plays to our advantage. we need to play to that. but we need to lower the temperature -- arthel: how do we do lower the temperature? >> we need to stop using incendiary comments and talk about how we're going to destroy people and all this, and need to reinforce the talks that have begun and emphasize diplomacy and support secretary tillerson in his efforts. arthel: we leave it there. colonel, thank you very much for joining us this afternoon. eric: today's false alarm raises questions about whether or not we're completely prepared to deal with a real missile threat. how concerned should we be? what can we do about this? we will have more of our continuing coverage here on the fox news channel, straight ahead. she does. she does. help defend against those digestive issues. take phillips' colon health probiotic caps daily with three types of good bacteria. 400 likes? wow! try phillips' colon health.

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emergency of this type. dr. manny alvarez is with us senior managing editor for fox news health.com. always good to see you. you wake up in the morning, first thing you see ballistic missile headed your way. what do you do? >> well, listen, as a matter of fact i spoke to a doctor this week who specializes in radiation survival here in new york. we did a segment for fox news health. exactly, you know, my impression as a doctor was like, listen, a nuclear bomb is coming your way, are you going to survive it? and i thought no but in the case he explained to me a couple things happen. so the immediate area of impact, everything gets destroyed. that could be 1 or 2 miles. there's no survival whatsoever there. once you go beyond 3 miles 3shg 1/2 miles -- 3 1/2 miles, there's tremendous radiation exposure. that's when shelter becomes very important. if you shelter yourself immediately, within 15 and 20 minutes and you are not outside, the fallout, which is the dust and radiation particles that are coming down very heavy like

rain, you have a good chance of making it. now, the shelter is important because if you have a simple basement and you have a wooden structure, that doesn't really keep a lot of radiation away, and you have to be very careful that the air from the outside doesn't go into the basement. the higher the building, the better the shelter. so it is important to think about sheltering, you know, in big cities where are you going to go because you only have 15 to 20 minutes. eric: we have seen this in new york and other cities as i mentioned earlier, they used to have the radiation sign in front of shelters. >> right, so the bigger the building, and if you go inside and you stay away from the dust, it is very important and of course making sure that no air comes in. typically it takes about 24, 48 hours for you to be sequestered in those shelters and let that fallout dissipate before -- eric: that's why they had food, stocking food and water. >> that brings you the most practical things. you have to think about water.

if you think you can drink water from the faucet, that's not that simple because that water will have radiation, the same thing about food. you do have 48 hours that if you shelter yourself and you stay awhat from the fallout, you are going to minimize the radiation exposure. eric: let's take a look at the hawaiian plan, 0 from the first 10 minutes or so, that's the launch. you have detection, warning sirens that start, you see the little signs there? you have to run, find shelter and then stay tuned exactly what you were just saying now. >> at least 48 hours you have to stay indoors. radiation exposure is very important, there are medications to treat radiation poisoning and this is something that there's a lot of work being done. eric: nothing to prevent it? >> nothing to prevent it.

once you have radiation poisoning, one of the things that happens when you get exposed to radiatioradiation, i all your white blood cells. those fight infection. if you have get a lot of radiation, you don't have the capacity to fight infection. all your bone marrow is destroyed. there are medications that try to build that, but in hospital settings, but you have to remember, it all depends where you are. it all depends in that first 3 miles because that's where the heavy duty radiation. 90% of people are going to get radiated unless they have very very secure bunkers. >> you are sketching out a chilling, frightening -- >> it is, i mean, it is. you know, nuclear survival is an apocalypse survival. you try to do your best. once you are beyond 5, 7, 10 miles from the nuclear

exposure -- >> we haven't had to think about really in a concrete way for many many years. talking about the radiated dogs, that you have to watch out for pets? >> everything that stays outside, pets, cats, anything like that, those animals unfortunately become a source of radiation. and again, it's that dust. you don't want to bring -- once you go into a shelter, lock down, nothing comes in here, not even the air from the outside, it doesn't matter if the dog is outside and you want let him in, that is a death sentence because you bring in the radiation particles inside your shelter. so unfortunately, you hunker down. you hope for the best. hopefully you have some water. maybe some food. but if you can ride it out 48 to 72 hours, maybe you got a chance. maybe. >> the apocalypse vision that we haven't entertained for quite some time. >> it is amazing to me that we have to talk in 2018 about these things, but this is the reality of the world. eric: yep, laying it out,

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arthel: continuing coverage of that emergency alert that was sent out to a bunch of people in hawaii, warning about an incoming ballistic missile. it turned out to be a false alarm but it caused confusion and panic until officials finally corrected it nearly 40 minutes later. eric: we have zack houston on the telephone. he is visiting hawaii from colorado. welcome. when you found out about this, your plane had just landed at the international airport on the island of hawaii, so you land, ready for a vacation. zack, what happened next? >> yeah, we literally had just walked off the plane. we're walking into the airport, and i get the alert on my phone, incoming missile and we're like what? we don't know if it's real or not. so we're kind of laughing about it and then we start to see everybody else check their phones and everybody is like what's going on?

nobody knew what was going on. eric: did anyone tell you -- any official or anything -- or were you just talking among yourselves? >> yeah, we were probably talking among ourselves for ten minutes, and then the security guards kind of started directing us to take cover because they didn't know if it was real either, so we were all kind of going into the bathrooms and getting ready to take cover. you could kind of tell in the people's eyes, everybody freaked out. you know, we don't know if bombs are about to start dropping or not. eric: you took a photo. tell us about that. >> the photo is actually after we found out that it was a fake alarm, and so after we found that out, they evacuated the airport out and then made everybody go back through security as a rescreen just for safe precautionary measures. so it -- go ahead, jack, finish

i'm sorry. >> it caused a lot of panic and confusion at the airport, so i'm sure it caused a lot of delays as well. thankfully we had just landed so we got out of there. arthel: you were in colorado, i believe. and here you are, you have your picture up there, the airport there, a beautiful lovely open air airport there. it takes grow about -- it takes you about 30 minutes to your hotel or where you are staying. did you think about cancelling your trip? >> no, i don't think that crossed us our mind at all. there wasn't enough time. there was an incoming missile on its way. what else can we do? after we found out it was fake, it was a relief, but we're here at the beach now ready to enjoy our vacation. so it is not going to stop us. arthel: you know what? that's the right attitude. you are there. you are safe. it was a false alarm, thank goodness. enjoy your stay in hawaii. >> we certainly will thank you. arthel: thanks for joining us.

eric: hope you have a good vacation. a lot to talk about. take a look live, any moment now officials in hawaii will be holding a news conference on camera, an update in just a few momentses -- moments, about what happened, why did it happen, what happened, and what do they plan to do about it so it doesn't happen again, and what lessons can we take across the country as we face this possible potential threat from enemies of our nation? we will take you to this news conference as soon as it happens a few minutes from now as our continuing coverage of this unbelievable false ballistic alarm continues for saturday night right here on the fox news channel. hey, dustin. grab a seat. woman: okay. moderator: nice to meet you. have you ever had car trouble in a place like this? (roaring of truck) yes and it was like the worst experience of my life. seven lanes of traffic and i was in the second lane. when i get into my car, i want to know that it's going to get me from point a to point b. well, then i have some good news. chevy is the only brand to receive j.d. power dependability awards for cars, trucks and suvs

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eric: we start tonight with a fox news alert. we are waiting for the start of a news conference we told you about on the stunning and shocking false alarm that happened in hawaii this morning. it caused panic and fear sending people scrambling. they thought for their lives to shelters. this is the frightening message that went out to cell phones across the island just about 8:00 this morning, as folks were getting up. it tells them as you can see in all caps, quote, ballistic missile threat in bound to hawaii. seek immediate shelter. this is not a drill. now, the questions and the investigation and the lessons are to come. welcome tonight. this is a new hour of america's news headquarters. hello everyone, i'm eric sean.

-- eric shawn. arthel: i'm arthel neville. officials are turning to twitter to calm citizens and reassure them there was no imminent danger. hawaii congresswoman tulsi gabbard tweeting out hawaii there is a false alarm. there is no incoming missile to hawaii. i have confirmed with officials there is no incoming missile. president trump received a briefing on the situation in hawaii. a white house official stressing the error happened on a state level, not federal. hawaii's governor also confirming the mistake saying someone pushed the wrong button which led to all of the confusion. >> obviously there was a breakdown in procedure that allowed the false alarm to occur. it's regrettable and we will be looking at all of the policies and procedures that occur at the change of shifts and other times that may be vulnerable to make sure that this event does not happen again.

arthel: bryan llenas is live from our new york city newsroom with more on this. >> for the better part of half hour there are some folks in hawaii that thought they were going to die in a missile attack. i mean that is literally what we're talking about here. that alert came out at 8:07 hawaii time. this alert reading quote, ballistic missile threat in bound to hawaii. seek immediate shelter. this is not a drill. the emergency alert system also went out on television and radio, and we have video of what it was like to be watching tv at the time, this morning in hawaii, at 8:07, when the alert gets sent out, and the emergency transmission that there is an imminent ballistic missile on its way to hawaii. this is what it would have sounded like if you were watching tv this morning. >> the u.s. pacific command has detected a missile threat to hawaii.

a missile may impact on land or sea within minutes. this is not a drill. if you are indoors, stay indoors. if you are outdoors, seek immediate shelter in a building. >> i mean a nightmare scenario, just incredible. if you look at this tweet, the hawaii emergency management came out 13 minutes after the alert sent at 8:07, so this is now 8:20 in the morning, no missile threat to hawaii. that's all they tweeted. and then it took an additional 20 minutes for the emergency management agency to reissue a new alert saying that the initial alert was a false alarm. you are talking about 38 minute stretch there in which people had no idea what was happening or whether or not they thought there was a missile going to hit, and that false alarm message was sent. now the governor and the head of the hawaii's management -- emergency management agency, the head of that agency actually took full responsibility. take a listen. >> this is regrettable.

it won't happen again because the criticality of the time of this type of event and the credibility of this alarm going out is critical for us in saving lives. >> we are expecting a press conference at any moment now to give us an update from the emergency management services there in hawaii. look at some of the tweets. obviously people reacting in panic. john peterson tweeting about 10 minutes after the alert went out under mattresses with my wife baby and in laws please don't let this bomb threat be real. another person who was also tweeting about it -- thought we have that. guess we don't. there it is. sydney ember people were sheltering in the basement. people were crying and holding each other. it was actually scary for a few minutes. we have had reaction from legislators there in hawaii. this is the senator, again, false alarm. what happened today is totally inexcusable. the whole state was terrified. there needs to be tough and quick accountability and a fixed process.

you know, mentioned the process. look at this. this is from hawaii's emergency management agency. this is what the process is if there were to be a ballistic missile attack. the u.s. pacific command which is based in hawaii, sends a message to the state. the state then warns its citizens. you are talking about 20 minutes, from launch in north korea to a missile landing in hawaii. just 20 minutes. and in that time, in the first ten minutes, the warnings are sent and then citizens have just 10 minutes to react. and the only reaction they have, there are no fallout shelters. there are no bunkers unless you have a personal one. you literally have to stay indoors, and if you are driving, lay flat on the ground. that's the advice they have. plenty of questions about this process, about whether or not more needs to be done to prepare hawaii for something like this. arthel: yeah, indeed. bryan, we're waiting for that press conference you mentioned. the minute it starts to take place, we will bring it to you live. thank you very much for that update. eric: we're going to go to jim

walsh, international security, mitt security studies program in boston -- mis security studies program in boston. -- mit security studies program in boston. you would think they would have safeguards. >> absolutely. this is the sort of thing where there would be consequences. you can imagine a person having a heart attack. you can imagine the psychological problem that might come if you have a child that's worried or the preexisting mental health challenge, obviously you can tell from the tweets in the video, it was terrifying, terrifying, and in my view unnecessary. i wondered about this from the beginning. first when they started in japan and now in hawaii. the u.s. used to have a big civil defense program back in the 60s.

we got rid of it. we abandoned it. eric: i have to interrupt you. the governor of hawaii is having a news conference. let's go to it right now. >> today is the day that most of us will never forget, a day when many in our community thought that our worst nightmare might actually be happening. a day when many frantically tried to think about the things that they would do if a ballistic missile launch would happen. you know, i know first-hand that what happened today was totally unacceptable, and many in our community was deeply affected by this, and i'm sorry for that pain and confusion that anyone might have experienced. you know, i'm too very angry and disappointed that this happened. we are doing everything that we can immediately to ensure that it never happens again.

you know, we have spent the morning with general logan and those involved with emergency management and their teams, and i've directed them to make the changes necessary to ensure that a false alarm will not happen. we are working to evaluate everything in the sequence of today's activities to make sure that we are prepared and the procedures are changed so that a single person will not be able to make an error that triggers another false alarm. with that i would like to turn it over to go through today's events. >> emergency management agency, i deeply apologize for the

trouble and heart break that we caused today. we spent the last few months trying to get ahead of this whole threat so that we could provide as much notification and preparation time for the public. today was something that i regret because i accept responsibility for this. this is my team. we made a mistake. we're going to take processes and study so this doesn't happen again. let me go over -- you were distributed today a press release, hard copy. there's a time line in there. i would like to spend a few minutes going over that time line. at 0805 this morning, our state warning, which is my 24/7 operation group did a change of shift preparation and at the end -- the new incoming shift will do a check or test of ballistic missile preparation checklist. 0805 this test started.

at 0807 is when the trigger is pulled on the test. the wrong button was pushed on this test. it went into an actual event versus a test. at 8:10 a.m., we of course got messages on the system, the telephones and so on and calls that this had gone out and at that point in time, we started the recall or the cancellation process. at 8:13 a.m., a cancellation was issued, a warning message, and what it does is prevent any more messages going out. it doesn't issue a separate message cancelling it. it just stops the messages from going out. at 8:20 a.m., hawaii emergency management agency issued a public notification of

cancellation. at 8:24 a.m. the governor retweets our message for cancellation notice. at 8:30 a.m., the governor posts the cancellation notification on the facebook page and at 8:45 a.m., after getting authorization, from fema's integrated public alert and warning system, an emergency message was issued that alerted people that a missile was not incoming and this was a false alarm. that's where we were at the end of today. as far as ahead, i have to emphasize that this is what has been happening on the last few months that our focus has been getting the message to the public. what we need to work on more is the cancellation notice in this event. our focus now of course is not to have any more false alarms

going out. and by doing this, we're working on procedures that have already been implemented. first of all, the governor has directed that we hold off any more tests until we get this squared away. what has already been put in place is two-person rule that doing a drill, there will always be two people there before the button is pushed, for both drills and for the actual -- the other point is the cancellation message. we will have a cancellation template that's already been inserted, where the cancellation message is already prescripted to go out and say this is a false alarm. i have to emphasize that at 8:10 a.m., right after this went out, general logan called to confirm that there was no missile inbound and that was our priority for us to make sure that word got out. the other thing that we need to

do is expanding the protocols so the governors, the mayors, the counties, all understand that this is a false alarm. we need to make more contacts to notify that this was a false alarm. the other point is contact with the press and the media, to make sure this goes out right away also. again, i apologize for this. this is my responsibility, my team. but please keep in mind that again, the threat is there. if this comes out, you have about 12 to 13 minutes of warning for an actual event and please take this to heart. again, i apologize for what's happened. >> good afternoon, everyone. obviously this is a day we will never forget. like everyone else, we're extremely concerned that this happened.

but we're also encouraged and i'm very encouraged that we will have all the key decisionmakers and agencies now coming together having serious dialogue to ensure that this never ever happens again. upon hearing the notice, we immediately reached out to airports, harbors, our ten global partners, in many instances because of the time difference, we're able to message very quickly that this was a false alarm, and hopefully mitigate any potential damage there. we spoke to our chanters, our industry stake holders, obviously very very concerned, and we assured them that as i mentioned earlier that there will be very serious dialogue between all the decision makers and agencies to ensure it doesn't happen again. the important thing i think is that for us the health, safety, and welfare of our visitors and

our residents alike is always, always top priority. and we're going to do everything that we can ensure that that is there, and the message that i would like to be very clear in speaking to our global partners is that hawaii is open for business. it's still perceived as the most safe, clean, welcoming destination in the world. and i'm confident we'll continue that message. thank you. >> with that we open up to your questions. >> in a day of technology where you can do it live, why rely on audio notifications? >> you know, i think we have a combination, the notification process is a variety of different mechanisms. we have the sirens. you know, we have cell phones today. we have internet and social media mechanisms. we do know that we need to be

able to broadcast messages across all platforms, and certainly that's what the intention was. you know, there was no automated way to send a false alarm cancellation. we had to initiate a manual process, and that was why it took a while to notify everyone. >> is there a way where it could come out much faster? wouldn't that be a better option? >> certainly we will be looking at -- we've already implemented some actions to speed the process so that the public would be notified faster, but we are evaluating all of the processes that we currently have to ensure that we can provide the notice to the public as soon as possible. >> so to clarify, the 38 minutes that transpired -- transpired

between the initial alert going out and the false alarm notification was the result of the time that you guys -- you guys needed to manually -- >> no, a couple things. if you look at the time line, certainly we had sent notification that it was a false alarm much earlier than the 38 minutes. >> right. >> the 38 minute interval is really the interval that we had to manually go through the process to provide notification on the smart phones and cell phone. we did have other notification that occurred much much sooner than that. >> right. on facebook, but not everybody is plugged into these social media platforms. they rely on the mass notifications on mobile devices or the sirens which in some cases they did go off in different communities. >> the sirens are separate. a few of them went off but most of them did not because they are not involved with this test. >> the clarification then is why

were those sirens triggered when you guys were already issues a correction that it was a false alarm? >> we have to check on that. that's why we do the monthly check. the drill that was done this morning was only for the emergency alert system, which the tv, radio, and wireless emergency alert system which are the cell phones. >> are the real alerts supposed to work where you get the notification and are the sirens supposed to go after that? >> that is correct. because this is an internal test or drill, we don't want the sirens to go off publicly. >> why did the sirens go off? >> we have to review that. again, it is an internal drill so the sirens are not supposed to go off outside. >> if there's a situation, you are saying the wrong button was pushed. give us a little clarification -- there buttons on a panel. one person pushes a certain button and there's no sort of a safety guard where they say are

you sure you want to push that button? >> it's a screen. it's more like a mouse click. it's a screen, a test button and an actual. the wrong button was pushed. >> once that button is pushed, that's it? it goes through? >> there's no sort of redundancy whatsoever? >> the old process was no redundancy. we have implemented changes already to ensure that it becomes a redundant process that so it won't be a single individual, there will be at least two people that would be involved to initiate the alert? >> you mean since this morning, you have implemented that? >> yes, that's correct. >> to clarify, with a mouse click, someone sent out this mass alert saying this is not a drill, shelter in place immediately, and by the time the next alert went out, to the masses, and those 38 minutes had passed, you guys had obviously already clarified it was a false alarm. but there were still sirens that

had started going -- but there were still sirens started going off and you are saying that was on a separate system. who made the call to initiate or authorize the use of the sirens? >> no one authorized the use of the sirens. >> why did that happen? >> we don't know. we will find out. >> what is the procedure when you're testing? >> the procedure for the test is that in a real event, get notification from the specific command, then go to activating the computer screen and the program that would activate the warnings and alerts. so the process of our test is that we simulate a notification -- again no notification came to simulate that and based on that simulation, our staff will open up the screen, go to the checklist and then make that

initiation. that's what -- there is -- again, it is a human error. there is a screen that says are you sure you want to do this? okay. that's already in place. one person, human error, and that was pushed anyway. >> so they not only triggered the alert, they also pressed yes? >> yes. >> there was a two step process and they pressed yes in both situations. by having redundancy, two people, 12 to 13 minutes to alert the public, how much delay -- >> there would be no delay in the case. the process would be to push it or oversee to make sure there are two people there when you push the button. >> to clarify, there was a redundancy in place then? someone clicked to send out this mass message and then someone also clicked to say yes --

>> it's the same person. >> did he explain why then he did it twice? >> i can't explain that. like i said, it's a human error that we're going to fix. >> we understand it is a mistake. what are the consequences as the result of the kind of just mass hysteria and confusion that was launched this morning as a result of a human error? >> the consequence of this is obviously bad. i'm working on credibility now because we have worked so hard to get this in place. that's why i want to tell the public right now, again, this is a mistake on our part. but don't let that stop as far as preparation and warning time if this happens for real. so in my case, you know, you watch the news right now, they are talking, kim jong-un is talking to the south. so things are getting better. so when i heard this morning i thought this has to be a false alarm because that's not happening. we want to keep the public

informed of what's going on. when i saw this today, when i heard this today, i thought something was wrong, it was a false alarm. because the tensions are not there to start something like this. that's -- again, this should not have happened. we're going to work hard -- this is not going to happen again, as the governor said. and we're going to work the cancellation process and the notification process to be much better so this doesn't go through what we went through this morning. >> will there be consequences? >> the consequences will they will be counselled and drilled so this doesn't happen again. this is a shake up here. the people who went through this will definitely not do this again because they don't want to cause this heart break. >> but the clarification for the individual -- >> will there be any sort of suspension or will they be relieved of their duties because

of this? >> i'm not going to answer personnel issues. you've got to know this guy feels bad; right? he's not doing this on purpose. it was a mistake on his part. he feels terrible about it. and it won't happen again. >> has he been working here a long time? >> again, another personnel -- >> i have another question in regards to the mass message that did go out on mobile devices, not every carrier provided an alert. can you clarify why that happened? because in a real situation, everyone would need to know. >> i would say that we hope to learn from what happened today and that is one of the questions that we are asking, why is it that some of the people didn't get the alert message on their phones? we want to understand which carriers delivered the message and whether all of their subscribers received the message, same thing, so we want to be clear about who received the message and who didn't.

>> do you have a general idea of how many people received the message or how many -- >> we don't have that right now. we are asking for that information. >> did it go out to all the islands? >> yes. >> the carrier thing, certain carriers have it. there are gaps. we need to identify what carriers do have it. talk to them and make sure it gets solved. >> can you talk about what you want people to know with regards to being able to gain their trust. >> we want the people to know that we are disappointed and angry that this happened. we do know that everyone on the island was affected in some way. we understand that. we are committed to providing the public with a good notification system. we do understand that there is a short window for us to inform the public and for them to respond. we would certainly encourage the

public to follow the recommendations, if this should happen to get inside, stay inside, and get informed because that's what they need to do. we have already taken action to make changes to ensure that this doesn't happen again. we will continue to work through that process. we will identify other procedures and opportunities that we can put into place to ensure that this doesn't happen again. >> this has got to hurt the entire state as far as reputation. >> certainly we have as a -- we have been balancing the interest of the public and providing a notification system in light of the world that we live in today and that there is a possibility

of a ballistic attack, so we believe that it's in the best interest of the public to have a system of notification that we can provide notice should an event occur. it's very very unfortunate that a false alarm was issued today. and we will take action to ensure that the false alarm never happens again. >> you're confident that you have this sort of taken care of? >> yes, absolutely. >> i would like to clarify. there is one individual who clicking a mouse button can send out this mass notification and then there is a separate individual who triggers the sirens? what is the communication between those two systems so that if it were a real deal, as you mentioned, first the alert would go out, then the sirens would turn on, what's to ensure that that process is in fact, the integrity of that has been preserved? >> in an actual event, those two people are sitting side by side. >> okay.

>> so it will be simultaneous. >> which is why some sirens did not go off because that person knew immediately it was a mistake? >> i believe that could be the case, but again i have to take a look into that, and we're working on a written report on this, as far as what happened, what the fixes are going to be and the way ahead is going to be. >> one of the challenges as a member of the media is that we did not have access to information right away. what procedures, what policies will now change as people turn immediately to the internet, turn their tv's on, put on the radio to try to get credible, clear information? >> the process is again getting that cancellation notice out as soon as possible, with the new template that we have in there and then again for a false alarm, we have to make sure that we have clear lines to the media, through the public information people, to get it simultaneously out so that has to be worked and tested again. >> you have talked about the challenge of getting that -- eric: we are hearing the

officials reveal that one employee pushes one button but they admit pushed the actual button not the test button and then defeated the redundancy on the screen and as a result the panic was spread in hawaii this morning. we have been listening to the governor and emergency management. they have taken responsibility saying they are taking precautions in the wake of this unbelievable mistake, employing that redundancy with two employees, not one. they are taking responsibility, admitting they are angry, disappointed and heartbroken that the false alarm that's raised some questions about the system and if our nation is prepared in case this was actually real. arthel? arthel: yeah, thank you, eric, for more on this we're going to bring in alan smith, the senior political reporter for business insider. you were here to talk about something else. we're going to talk about this now because you do cover capitol hill. i want to know, how do you think this will play out in congress next week? >> whenever a major news story like this happens, something affecting one of the 50 states, there's going to be an effort at some point to look into u how

this sort of emergency management system works across all 50 of the states. there might be some sort of effort on the federal level to address any shortcomings in the system, like with what we saw in hawaii today. but we know in the next week, when this is going to be receiving the most attention, also happens to be at a time when it's going to be a war zone in congress. they've got the government funding deal coming up. there's a huge battle over daca right now. everything is coming down to the wire. all attention is really going to be on that next week. after that situation is resolved, it will be interesting to see if people decide to come back to this, if this story is still very prominent in the news. arthel: but maybe some lawmakers will use this in the continuing tensions between the u.s. and north korea to bring that particular subject to the table and wondering if they are going to want -- lawmakers that is -- if they are going to want answers, guidance or some sort of cooperation there in congress from the president. what expectations will they have from the president on this issue, or perhaps will they use

this as a hook to kind of hammer him on something else? >> it's interesting it's really hard to say whether they will be able to do that, but i mean, we see with the statement the white house put out today from the president, it's clear that they had very minimal information on this, and i think lawmakers might want to know why the white house was so brief on what happened with really something that is getting more attention now than maybe a couple years ago because the situation with north korea, such all-time high level of tension. arthel: in that statement we had from white house, white house official, very brief, we received it about an hour or so ago, it says the president has been briefed on the state of hawaii's emergency management exercise, this was purely a state exercise. >> and when that statement came out, we still were missing a lot of the facts that the officials in hawaii were really just laying out. we knew that the alert came out and said this is not a drill, and the white house sort of very calmly said it was a state exercise. so there was a lot of confusion when that statement came out. i saw a lot of people on-line were zeroing on the part of the

statement where they were talking about the state exercise because it was very clear when the alert went out that it was not an exercise, something had at least gone wrong. so the information in the white house was using is up for debate and i'm sure they will be further questioned on it. arthel: so then how does this -- i'm running out of time here. i just wonder, what's going to be the fallout because you know you have got this side and that side, they argue over everything there. how are they going to use this to put blame on the other side >> well, i can guarantee some people will say well look hawaii is a state that's completely run by the democratic party. someone will say that. i'm sure the person who mis-hit this button and clearly there was a two step verification as they were just explaining, so that person is likely going to be out of a job, but i mean, i don't know if this one will delve into a partisan shouting match back and forth. there are already two that are happening on capitol hill right now that will drawn this one out. arthel: let's hope it doesn't

turn into a shouting match. as you say there's so much going on. this was serious. you had people completely afraid. they were in fear of their lives. it is not funny. it is not a laughing matter, and it's certainly not something to be petty over. let's hope they can get together and deal with this moving forward to prevent such a mistake from happening and make sure our states are prepared. god forbid something like that happens. but it is not going to happen. but we still need to be prepared. >> absolutely. arthel: alan smith, maybe we will get you back on tomorrow to talk about daca. how about that, if you are available. eric: state officials are contrite. they are apologizing and say they are heartbroken about this mistake, but it does raise some questions about whether or not states or that state agencies should actually have the responsibility to warn citizens of a state about a potential nuclear attack. some questions being raised tonight about whether or not the pentagon should perhaps have more procedures to take over some of this responsibility and at the pentagon right now is

lucas thomasson. good evening. >> good evening. the pentagon is saying they had nothing to do with this alert system. this is a state run emergency management system. the pentagon issued a statement as soon as they could to say it had not detected any ballistic missile launch. i want to tell you and viewers though that north korea still has not demonstrated the ability to have a war head successfully reenter the earth's atmosphere, so they have done over 25 tests in the last year, including their first intercontinental ballistic launch but none of these missiles have proven to be able to reenter the earth's atmosphere. still they are very concerning of course. let's go over the time line right now. 8:07, hawaii's emergency management agency sends out this mass alert to the 1.3 million residents of hawaii and tens of thousands of visitors including those in town to watch the pga tour event on the island. the golf tournament. now it took 13 minutes for hawaii's emergency management agency to tweet out a correction saying, quote, no missile threat to hawaii, but as you heard

during the press conference, this was a tweet and a lot of people aren't on twitter. they are certainly not sitting there staring at their twitter if they are at the beach. another 15 minutes goes by, and the u.s. military, their pacific command which tracks all of north korea's missile launches is based right there in hawaii said it had not detected a ballistic missile and the earlier message was in error and the state of hawaii will send out a correction message as soon as possible. but it took another 10 minutes, a full 40 minutes after the initial alert had gone out, false alert about an incoming ballistic missile for the final notification to be sent. now the head of hawaii's emergency management system just told people that there will be no more tests of this system and that -- but if it was a real test of an actual missile or a missile was actually fired at hawaii, it would only take 12 or 13 minutes to arrive. again, it is important to note that, you know, north korea has not demonstrated this ability. less than two months ago hawaii brought back its emergency siren

system. something that people hadn't heard since the cold war, decades. apparently what we just learned at the press conference, some of those sirens went off. there's no explanation of why some of the sirens went off, but others didn't. but currently the u.s. military has 44 interceptors in the ground in alaska and southern california to be able to strike any kind of rogue ballistic missile coming from north korea and congress has called for about 12 billion dollars more in defense spending for missile defense and to add over 60 more interceptors so a total of 100 missiles in the ground to knock out these ballistic missiles but eric it is noteworthy today there are only 44 in the ground and a big budget crisis looms next week when congress comes back. eric: all right lucas maybe this scare will cause them to deploy some more of those antimissile systems faster. thank you very much. let's go to director of the national law and policy program. he's a former chief counsel and senior advisor for the senate

foreign relations committee. good to see you tonight. as we have been saying, so shocking. it really is frightening and spread panic and is pretty astounding. is this the best way to warn people about a possible incoming missile? i mean, what pacific command detects, norad and then they have to tell a state agency? >> i grew up in california. we have a similar warning system for earthquakes and the like. at the end of the day, you have to get the message out to the broadest group of people as possible. you want a combination of federal and state alerts. the mistake was made. how do you avoid mistakes like that? whether it is a federal government or state government, you need a fail proof system. they will be looking at all these types of issues going forward. eric: it seems they did have a redundant system that there was an actual button in this case. one employee, one guy until this afternoon, he pushes the test button. then there is a screen where

they actually have another step, but it's still one person. the governor just saying that now they are going to have two people very similar to what you just pointed out. >> yeah, i mean, look we have all done this thing where we clicked on a button not meant to do it sending an e-mail or whatever, sometimes we've done that double click thing yeah i have seen this a million times, yep that's what i want to do, it doesn't make any better when it is a massive alert system and scares people. i think the other big concern besides the sort of two person alert system is how do you fix it so you get the response out -- or the takeback out within less 40 minutes. that's problematic. the governor and emergency management director are ton of this. -- on top of this. they get this is a mistake. >> it's stunned it would take so long. how come the minute the guy pushed the button they don't realize it? >> that's what crazy, within 13 minutes they got messages out. once you get a message out on the emergency alert system, you have to send that takeback on

the emergency alert system. you can't just tweet it out or whatever. you have got to do exactly what you did to get the first message out. that seems to be the problem here. eric: the head of the emergency management agency there is taking this to heart. he said he personally is heartbroken that he takes responsibility. he's stepping up. he says it is my mistake. not just of his agency. here's part of what he just said. >> i apologize for this. this is my responsibility, my team. but please keep in mind that again, the threat is there. if this comes out, you will have 12 to 13 minutes of warning for an actual event. please take this to heart. eric: the threat is there and there's not much time if indeed this was real. >> that's what's really scary. with north korea armed with nuclear weapons that could reach in theory the united states, that's a huge problem. 13 minutes is almost no time. 30 minutes to the u.s. west coast. what we really need to do is solve the problem of north korea. on that front, we have been

making some progress. i know a lot of people have had some concerns with the way we've gone about with our negotiations or or sort of confronting north korea, but the reality is we have had 20 years of failed policy and now we're looking to make progress, a positive step. we will see what happens coming out of these talks with the south koreans also. eric: the olympics coming up. we will see what happens certainly after that. thank you for joining us. >> thanks. arthel: u.s. enemies including iran and north korea now watching how the white house and american people are reacting to such an alert. a former cia station chief weighs in, next. my healthy routine helps me feel my best. so i add activia yogurt to my day.

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daniel hoffman is a former cia station chief in moscow, iraq and pakistan. he's joining me on the phone. and mr. hoffman, if pyongyang, tehran and moscow are watching this unfold, what are they looking for? >> first watching this unfold, i had a couple of thoughts just certainly better than not warning when an attack takes place. also reminded me when we were talking incoming in iraq, sometimes they worked, sometimes they didn't, but we were running to the nearest bunker. certainly they want to see how we respond. they are very focused on hawaii buzz they want to target our -- because they want to target our specific military bases there. they know we rely on interceptors in california and

alaska even there's a missile range facility in hawaii but there's more experimental and there's a lot of work that needs to be done to upgrade it. but to the extent it is possible, i'm quite sure that they will focus their intelligence collection on how we respond in hawaii and then of course in all related that back in washington, d.c. as we deal with this challenge. arthel: how long would it take to upgrade those systems that you just mentioned? are we talking years? >> yeah, i think that it's going to take some time, from what i've read. i mean i regret to say i don't have any detailed information on that myself. but it looks like it's going to be sometime before that's completed. it's certainly something that our legislative branch will want to be focused on, i think. arthel: i understand that's not your area of expertise, daniel. how will kim jong-un react to what happened today? >> well, i think he's probably

fairly pleased about this because this is the extent to which the populous was concerned about what looked like an intended attack and enhances the north korea's threat and the impact of that threat, and that's exactly what kim jong-un wants. he wants us to be concerned about a north korean attack. arthel: as our allies watch as well, what are they paying attention to, daniel? and how do they or what do they expect the president to do? president trump, how do they expect him to respond? are they thinking that he's going to respond publicly? if so would he do it via twitter, in front of the cameras, addressing the nation, more formal way, how important, daniel, is the president's tone in his reaction, should he provide one? >> yeah, i mean i'm not sure the president would, you know, would

necessarily need to respond to this. it might be more appropriate from my personal opinion, it might be more appropriate for secretary mattis to respond to this if he chooses to. i think that another warning to the north koreans that we're serious about countering whatever threat they may pose to us is probably in the offing, and i think that there's been lots of discussion certainly in hawaii and a lot of work done there to warn the population of roughly 1.5 million of the possibility of this threat. there's been tv commercials to warn the population and state officials in hawaii are engaging with the citizens. that's all really good and really helpful, and i'm not so sure that the federal government needs to become involved in any way. arthel: interesting, daniel hoffman, former cia station chief, moscow iraq and pakistan, thank you very much for joining us here this afternoon. >> okay, thank you, have a good

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>> eric: imagine being in hawaii this morning, you wake up, you look at your cell phone and you got an emergency notice on it that a ballistic missile is on its way towards you and it is not a drill. arthel: it was in all caps. it was a false alarm. of course it caused genuine panic. our next guest happens to be vacationing in hawaii while this is all going down. eric: she joins us by now. you walk into the lobby to check in, in the hotel lobby, how did you know this was happening? you heard the tone? >> yeah, it was the craziest thing. i looked down at my watch, and i saw alert, ballistic missile, and it is one of these things where you look at it and you kind of look away and you look back and you are like oh my god. it was the craziest moment i think of my life. arthel: what did you do? >> we were waiting to check in. so we walked up to the woman at the desk, and we were like, hey, this just popped up, and it was

one of those things where her face went white. she called her manager. people started running around, and it all kind of got crazy from there. eric: so there was true emotion of course, true sense of panic and fear, i mean you think it is real when you see it? >> yeah, i mean, my heart dropped. it was one of those things where it was like -- >> luckily it wasn't real. eric: who did the hotel do? what happened then? -- what did the hotel do? what happened then? >> they had everyone congregate in the main lobby and told us to the ballroom. luckily one of the employees

took us to our room to set our bags down through the employee elevator. at that point we got up to the room and said there was nothing we can do. we just stayed there. i know the hotel got everyone together. arthel: how long did you think this was real? >> probably about 20 minutes. i reached out to a friend who works at the media and she let me know ahead of time that it wasn't real and that everything was going to be okay. eric: did you look out the window before you knew that? you obviously -- what was going through your mind? >> i was looking out the window seeing if i could see anything or what was going on below. eric: the governor and the emergency management head of that, they've been very contrite. they have apologized. arthel: before we go, i have a question for you because you for about 20 minutes said that you thought this was the end, and i want to know, in those 20 minutes, what did you think about as a person?

did you think wow, if i had something to do over again, i would, or any regrets, any profound thoughts like that? >> all i could think about was obviously i had my family with me. all i could think about was them and my extended family and my friends. it was one of those moments where you're like i have so much life left to live, but this is happening, but i was lucky i was with my family. arthel: thank goodness it did not happen. erica, thank you very much for telling us your story. kelly wright is up next with the fox report. eric: we will be back tomorrow. take care. over 80 years. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. . .. .

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>> after false alarm that devastation is eminent. an alert sent to more than a million people warning of an incoming ballistic missile attack. residents and tours waking up to this on their phones. a ballistic missile threat inbound to why, seek shelter, this is not a drill. the governor tried to get to the bottom of it. >> this should not have happened. we are investigating the sequence of events that occur. and whatever was made an emergency management which