>> folks news will have live coverage of the possible government shutdown throughout the day including a special two-hour edition with shannon bream beginning at 11:00 eastern time tonight. it will be a wild one. >> i agree with you on that. briefing any moment from the white house. we have to run. enjoy, have a great weekend. >> "happening now" starts now. >> jon: a fox news alert and will the united states government shut down 13 hours from now? we are awaiting a briefing with white house legislative affairs director marc short and the head of the office of management and budget mick mulvaney. they will address the looming government shutdown, give you the white house perspective on whether or not it is likely to happen. we'll have that covered for you and that briefing when it begins. and this fox news alert. it is crunch time on capitol hill. >> melissa: big time. >> jon: after the house passed a stopgap spending bill. it heads to the senate with no

guarantees of what comes next. >> melissa: happy friday to you. busy friday but still friday. i'm melissa francis. the clock is ticking down on the government shutdown before the stroke of midnight tonight with republicans and democrats preparing to blame each other if the federal government closes down all but essential services. right now immigration and defense spending are key stumbling blocks with partisan divisions as deep as ever. kellyanne conway firing a warning shot at democrats. >> it really is regrettable the democrats are willing to shut down the government, which means not just saying no to president trump but saying no to our military and a longer-term extension of the children's health program, saying no to federal workers getting their paychecks. >> jon: peter doocy live on capitol hill right now. what's the state of play? >> the state of play is that as

things stand right now 13 democrats would have to join with republicans in the senate to advance this short-term budget. that's a tough math problem for mitch mcconnell to solve because democrats in the senate continue to insist they will withhold all support unless there is a legislative fix for daca recipients brought to this country illegally as kids by midnight. >> illegal immigration. that's what they have shoe horned into all this and say we won't solve any of this other stuff until we deal with this. >> new proof democrats don't plan to back down. we got our hands on an email nancy pelosi sent to her democratic house colleagues saying she thinks the democratic negotiating position is stronger against the gop got to see how strong their opposition was. a few minutes ago outside the house chamber democrats made

clear they don't plan to cross the aisle to help republicans pass a short term budget. >> the president has said that he wants a daca fix. members in both parties and congress have said they want a daca fix and here we are with a government shutdown looming and a daca fix is nowhere in sight. we'll keep pressing today for congress to take the right action and to come up with a daca fix. because we can't wait any longer. >> if progress can't be made on a month-long budget to fund the government there is no talk about a four or five day long budget. there would have to be major progress on daca in the next four or five days and would also mean that whatever the senate comes up with would have to be passed by the house. that could be a problem. a lot of republican lawmakers i talked to in the house of representatives are very frustrated they keep passing bills over there that have to either be majorly changed or

just get stuck by -- in the senate also run by republicans. jon. >> you need a lot of democratic help to get legislation passed. what an interesting day you'll have on capitol hill. peter doocy, thank you. >> melissa: for more on all this joining us is "wall street journal" columnist kimberly. >> we've known for a long time as democrats go into the 2018 mid-terms they had one of two choices, they could try to work with this president on some of their own priorities and deliver for some of their constituents or resist and resist and hope they could then beat the president over the head with that mid-term talk about bed lamb, republican confusion, etc. it looks as they they'll go the second route. the question for republicans is can they pin this on democrats or do they take the blame? which is normally what happens

when there are government shutdowns. >> melissa: we are a decent way from the next election. not like it's from tomorrow and people have relatively short memories. there is a new crisis every three seconds, it seems. maybe it is not going to have that big of an impact on the election as one would think. how would that change things? >> it is possible that will not question in the mid-terms but i think the important thing is that it's part of a theme that it looks as though democrats are trying to build that under republican leadership and under republican president they cannot get anything done, they can't move forward, and so you would be in better hands if you had a democratic congress. this will just be the idea behind one building block and what i was trying to say in terms of what their strategy is. it looks as though that's what it is going to be. >> melissa: the flip side of this i've heard spin from the other side the president could shape the shutdown the way he

wants to. he has enough power to call different things essential services and to continue to pay more people than one would think. what do you think about that? >> he does have a lot of power except for a shutdown is nonetheless a shutdown. and it is a cardinal rule in washington, it has been up until now, that republicans are always blamed for shutdowns whether they're in the white house, out of the white house, running congress or not. it is partly because the public associates republicans with small government so they assume it's republican's fault. if the republicans will go through with this and not cave on this last-minute immigration debate they had better have a very good talking point in hand. now it looks like they're doing that with press conferences, with a lot of strong people they are rolling out. to get that message across could be tough. >> melissa: the only thing is one thing underestimated in the last election that people really are sick of and hate the

government right now. so shutting it down doesn't necessarily sound that terrible to people and if he can soften the blow of what it actually means through executive privilege there is a chance the whole thing really comes around and bites democrats in the bottom so to speak. >> well, if he can keep the military running, if he can do those services americans interact with the most, things like the national parks for instance, keep them open, shuffle things around, then yeah, if people don't see it in their day-to-day lives it is potentially a moment to talk about government and how much we actually need it on a daily basis. but they'll have to have strong and very direct messaging on that. >> melissa: nobody is going to cry if the irs is shut down for a couple of days. >> exactly, i won't. >> melissa: right. you wrote a terrific article about mick mulvaney, truly the secret weapon within this administration. a year into the trump presidency. you said one thing is predictable the nation will

daily be treated to an explosion of controversy overhead lines that are as overwrought as they are fleeting, the great trump cholesterol debate. meanwhile the administration engaged in the most systematic overhaul of government since reagan with consequences that could reverb rate for a generation. nowhere is the disconnect between short term nrim nram and long term change more evident than in mick mulvaney's refurbishment of the consumer protection bureau. you're saying behind the scenes they're doing big things. we're about to hear from mick mulvaney. how is he shrinking government and maybe in a shutdown he could do the same. >> aside from the neil gorsuch nomination and the tax bill they just passed the deregulation agenda of president trump is astonishing car aoefd out by his cabinet. mick mulvaney had a huge hand

in that as the short term director of the cfpb. what he is doing there and he came out with a number of announcements this week about getting rid of the payday lending rule, about putting more political people in the agencies and pairing them with career staffers, of dropping a lawsuit they were working on. it is a vision for a government that is less money, more accountability, fewer hard regulations and you are seeing that across many agencies. >> melissa: building on your fantastic article in the "wall street journal" and i suggest anyone read it. it outlines what's going on the rest of the media isn't reporting on, it is quite a coincidence as mick mulvaney, he will talk about the government shutdown and exactly the guy. we've heard him speak on the budget before and his knowledge of government working and what is waste and his ability to do math which seems to be lost in

politics, is astounding. he is just the guy to keep the right stuff open and shut down the other stuff and show people kind of how little government maybe we actually need. what do you think? >> yeah. mulvaney, of course he came from congress out of the freedom caucus. he always was very fascinated with the size of government. he knows where the bodies are buried and also what you need to do to enact some fundamental change. and omb is going to very much be at the center of all this if there is a shutdown. i'm told they've been preparing and gearing up for it for days. and they've got i think a plan in hand that they're working on 24/7 to try to see where they can shift the money around and see again how you can look at all those vital services, keep the important ones going. and mick mulvaney has proven he has a grip on this stuff. >> melissa: you talked about agencies in the past that we potentially don't need. a lot of people in government

-- you talk about the things that would need to stay open in order for people to feel like the planet is not falling apart. i guess you put national parks in that category. what else do you think and has a lot of contact with the public? >> again, it's important that people feel confident that they are being protected and that the military stays in place. it is important things that they interact with. it is also important entitlements. they need to make sure if they can, they can continue to send out those social security checks. that they can send out medicaid assistance and some welfare assistance as well, too. that's the harder bit. then you are talking about very big dollars. >> melissa: kim, thank you for your insight today. we really appreciate it. great stuff. >> thank you. >> jon: fox news alert. the house has passed a continuing resolution too keep the government open and sent it to the senate where it is possibly going to die.

senate majority leader mitch mcconnell talking about this now. keeping the government open should be a no-brainer. >> a bill they haven't even written yet. this is completely unfair and uncompassionate for my democratic colleagues to filibuster government funding, harm our troops and jeopardize health coverage for nine million children because extreme elements of their base what illegal immigration to crowd out every other priority. apparently they believe that the issue of illegal immigration is more important than everything else. all the government services the american people depend on. i would recommend stop the wild goose chase that will go to a

destination that cannot be explained. let's fulfill the core responsibilities of congress. let's fund the government, provide for the american people, and then resume serious negotiations on the issues that matter most. let's fund the government for a full month so we can actually get something done. >> jon: mitch mcconnell blaming democrats. this will be an exercise that you'll see repeated over and over again in the coming hours and days really. we are less than 13 hours away now from a potential government shutdown. both sides trying to blame the other for the politics of it. mitch mcconnell saying essentially the democrats want the dreamers dealt with, the

800,000 people brought here illegally by their parents when they were children. their protection under law -- under really president obama's executive order is set to expire in mid-march but democrats want that issue dealt with right now and unless it is, they are willing to let the government close down. >> melissa: so as we're watching the senate debate on the right-hand side of your screen i want to remind you what is happening on the left. we've been told there would be an on-camera briefing regarding the potential government shutdown supposed to start at 10:30 this morning. the reporters are lingering around there. it's 45 minutes behind schedule now supposed to be in the briefing room with marc short, the director of legislative affairs and mick mulvaney who i was just talking about. the director of the office of management and budget. that would be significant. he have would give us inside into what will happen. who is at the podium?

that is mick mulvaney. let's listen. >> the united states of america is preparing for what we're calling the schumer shutdown. it still surprises me and i've been through some of these before that the democrats in the senate are opposing a bill that they don't oppose. they are for clean crs, they're for the extension to the chip program, many of them support the delays in the taxes, the medical device tax. they don't oppose anything in the bill but they are opposing the bill. i want to let everybody know we don't want this. we do not want a shutdown. but mr. schumer insists on it. he is in a position to force this on the american people. from an omb percent perktive. we're involved in managing a shut down and we want to make folks understand it will look different than it did under the previous administration.

one of the things i've learned since i've been in this office, there is no other way to describe it but the obama administration weaponized the shutdown in 2013. they did not encourage agencies to use carry forward funds. funds they were sitting on nor did they encourage agent seals to use transfer authority. that they could have made the shutdown in 2013 much less impactful but they chose to make it worse. the only conclusion i can draw they did so for political purposes. so it will look different this time around. we have also got -- we can answer questions about specifics on that. marc short is here to give you a very brief update on where we stand and we'll take questions for a few minutes. go ahead. >> thank you for your time this morning. as mick said last night the house passed a bipartisan bill with 230 votes.

the president stands ready to sign that bill to keep the government functioning and afloat. it appears that senate democrats are entrenched in forcing a shutdown. there is a lot of hypocrisy in this town and irony to point out. nancy pell -- pelosi said i call them legislative arsonists for those voting for a shutdown at the time commenting they are there to burn down what we should be building up in terms of investment, education, scientific research. chuck schumer said at the time it is sort of like this, someone goes into your house, takes your wife and children hostage and then says let's negotiate over the price of your house. in essence that's the same tactic they're deploying. last night many of you know you asked senator feinstein her position and she said the government shutdown the people

will die. how will she vote? she said she hasn't decided yet. people are going to die, i don't know how i'll vote on this. so here we are. i think the reality this is not about policy but politics. as mick said we aren't familiar with anything in the cr that democrats are opposing. in fact, they champion and support the chip program, this will reauthorize it for six years. new study says there are nine million children getting health insurance through that program. the reality is we'll jeopardize payments for our military and troops and those serving on the front line of our country both at customs and border patrol, ice and those who protect our country. this is a serious issue. we are frustrated because mick's job is to submit a budget to congress. let's keep that in perspective. mick does that in february. congress has months to complete appropriations process. the fiscal year ends september 30th. we're now in mid-january.

it's frustrating that we're in this position. what's unclear is what are the democrats asking in order to get out of a shutdown? it seems they're hell bent on getting to a shutdown. we're anxious to make sure our troops and those serving on the front lines of our country continue to get paid. >> so marc, a couple things on that. they want a deal on daca. the president on the other hand tweeted last year that our country needs a good shutdown. isn't he getting exactly what he asked for and it was the president as i'm sure you know the last time we had a government shutdown who said it is the president's responsibility to lead. he needs to get the players in the room. he needs to lead. how is he going to lead on this? >> a couple points there one, the president was very active yesterday in bringing together the house votes to get 230 votes. he was speaking to freedom caucus members. that was where we had the best

challenge yesterday and he helped get that bill accomplished. i think he is making continued calls this morning. he has called both bipartisan members today and continue to do that. he have is leading on this issue. regarding daca, we feel that the administration has put forward our plans on this. keep in mind the secretary kelly a year ago went to congress and said we need a solution on daca. we asked congress to fix it. we knew what was going to happen when several states sued the federal government over obama's unconstitutional policy and gave them plenty of warning on this. in the fall we submitted our priorities to congress and refined those to say -- we negotiated against ourselves and winnowed down the list to say here are practical things to get to a deal on daca. we've put forward the plan. right now you just saw a study a couple of days ago that showed 2,500 people on the terror watch list are trying to get into this country every year. that's seven per day.

seven per day. we think it is time to fix the immigration problems in our country. we have put forward a proposal to do exactly that. we're continuing to have conversations. i think we had productive conversations yesterday with leader mccarthy, senator hoyer and senator durbin and cornyn who will continue those conversations. i think they're making progress. what doesn't make sense is to say we're going to shut down the government because you are making progress but i need something else. >> let me ask you a couple of questions. the president's comment about s hole countries what responsibility does he bear for the challenges? >> the president -- one of the differences between where we are now and 2013. the president is actively working right now to try to prevent a shutdown. i will contend to you that it is dramatically different than what president obama was doing in 2013. i was there and involved in 2013.

it is my belief that president obama wanted a shutdown in 2013 because he thought democrats -- republicans would get blamed. today the president active worked all day yesterday and continues conversations today. there is snow way you can lay this at the feet of the president united states. he trying to get a deal. that's the difference. >> why not bring leadership here as a last ditch effort? >> the president is continuing bipartisan conversations. >> why not in person? >> i'm not privy to the meetings that the president may or may not be having. >> we are talking government shutdown. an important topic. 100,000 or more people taking part in a march for life today. the abortion ban. when do you expect a vote and why does the white house want a vote if it's likely to die? >> this administration continued to defend life from the very beginning. the vice president was the first vice president to speak to the march for life.

the president is hosting people here to protect life. it's an important issue for this administration. you saw the reversal of the mexico city policy to make sure taxpayer dollars aren't used overseas to fund abortions. that's a commitment of this administration. we don't have a date as to when the senate will vote. to your question will or not it fails or passes we think it's important for this add min traition to be on record in support of life. if i can go back about bringing leaders over here. keep in mind just last week we had a bipartisan meeting here that the president organized with leadership to try to get to a resolution on daca. out of that meeting the discussion was after the press had departed discussion was that the four leaders, mccarthy, durbin, cornyn, and hoyer would be the ones organizing the meetings to get to a solution. that's what we've been part of. when you ask why isn't the president bringing members in he did. he tried to reach the biggest issue they say is their

question, shutting down the government over illegal immigration. he brought them here for that conversation and is trying to solve the problem. >> you said this was the schumer shutdown. how can it be the schumer shutdown when republicans control the white house, the house, and the senate. >> you know the answer to that as well as anybody. i laugh when people say that we control the house, senate, white house you can't get this done. you know as well as anybody it takes 60 votes in the senate to pass appropriations. if you only have 51 votes in the senate you have to have democrat support in order to keep the government to fund the government. that's the answer to your question. >> the president asked congress to come up with a solution for the dreamers. congress was in the room, members of congress were in the room with the president last week. seemed to be a fairly productive meeting and then the whole process got blown up. it seems the whole process was blown up by the president's comments.

>> when republicans tried to add a discussion about obamacare in the funding process in 2013 we were accused by nancy pelosi of chuck schumer of inserting a non-financial issue into the spending process in order to shut the government down. how is that not exactly what's happening today? no reason you have to deal with daca this week or before the end of february -- the middle of february. daca doesn't expire until march 5. this is purely an attempt by the senate democrats led by mr. schumer why we call it the schumer shutdown in order to try to get a shutdown that they think this president gets blamed for. >> you are saying you need democrat support in the senate. so -- >> we got it in the house. >> are there any concessions that this white house is willing to make to try to get support from those democrats that you need? >> again, go back to what i said at the opening. they don't oppose anything in there. they support chip. every member of the finance

subcommittee a democrat has voted for this exact chip extension. they don't want the cadillac tax in place. they reported clean crs. those are concessions. ordinarily you would simply put up a clean cr and let them vote it. it worked in the house. several democrats voted for it. >> the bill that passed the house. democrats have to -- >> democrats should support the bill in the senate. the house has passed a bill. the senate has a couple choices. they could not take it up. either they take it up and pass it, don't pass it or change it and send it back to the house. the point of the matter is there are things of the bill they like. they have nothing in this bill that they don't like. the only reason they aren't voting for it is they want other things to be added to it and they want a shutdown. that's the only explanation we have. >> the main thing democrats want is daca. and you've said before everyone wants a solution on daca.

what is the big sticking point then on your end about including the daca fix in this bill? you don't get to vote on a summary. there have been months of work as you see with any major piece of legislation. it shouldn't come together overnight. there is no daca bill to vote on and there is no emergency in terms of the timing on daca. daca does not expire until march 5. there is absolutely no reason to tie these two things together right now. >> again i think it's important to remember we're approaching the march 5 deadline. the president put forward what he asked for last fall. we've been asking congress to address this. jim back to your question the reality is there is no legislation for them to pull up. they say there is this proposal. there is not a legislation to vote on. when they say we need to have daca solved before you do a continuing resolution there isn't a bill for them to vote on which i think shows this is

really about politics and not policy. general kelly will tell you he mentioned this to the senators during his confirmation process. this administration has been trying for at least a year to get progress on daca. it is congress that is taking long. >> you have been the one up there on capitol hill every day. what i'm getting from the podium today this is the democrat's fault. when can you do between now and midnight tonight to change the equation to get people on board the cr? >> i think again one of our challenges, i don't think it's fair what the democrats are asking for. they want a solution to daca but there is not a bill they're asking republicans to bring up. they believe it's better for them to force a shutdown. the president will continue to reach out to them throughout the day. he is actively on the phone. he will continue to try to say what is the solution you guys think will be necessary?

we think that giving the children's health insurance program senate democrats have asked fore six years was something that will attract democrat votes. that doesn't appear to be the case. >> the other big story of the week has been sfpb and your request for zero funding. what is its future and english's current role there and does she continue to draw a salary? >> six questions at once. we do intend and asked for no money this quarter over there because we didn't think it was necessary, cfpb has 177 million in its reserve fund and we're able to operate next quarter off that. that was the reason we asked for no money this quarter. we intend to continue to fulfill the statutory mission of the cfpb. i told people from the day i walked in i wasn't there to shut the place down or blow it up but we'll focus on the

statutory mission and we have money in the bank to do that. >> you mentioned that daca is not an immediate need now because of the march 5 deadline. you know, though, that is the sticking point for many democrats. so for people who are sitting at home and they are wondering if there is a government shutdown, how long would this last? could this potentially go weeks like the last one was 16 days especially since you are talking about the march 5th deadline? what's the realistic time frame of how long for either of you a shutdown could potentially last? >> we talk about immigration and you all seem to quote from mr. schumer from 2013. we won't raise the debt ceiling and immigration reform it would be governmental chaos. there are examples of statements -- bernie sanders, what they are saying -- this is of me back in 2013 the group that was trying to figure out a way to force a debate on obamacare repeal. what they're saying the american people is maybe we

have lost the presidential election, maybe we have lost seats in the senate and the house. sanders talking. we can bring the government to a shutdown and throw 800,000 hard working americans on the street where we get our way no matter what. this is exactly what they accused the republicans doing back in 2013. there was no reason to have to insert a daca discussion and immigration discussion into the funding bill today. >> the reality is -- how long can people expect? >> can you expand upon that? >> a couple different things. omb is responsible for managing the shutdown. the military will still go to work. they will not get paid. the border will still be pat rolled. they will not get paid. folks will still be fighting the fires out west. they will not get paid. the parks will be open. people won't get paid. a bunch of different things when you see compared to 2013,

but don't lose sight of the fact that we are asking the military to work without pay. we are asking firefighters to work without pay. it is still harming to people. what's different -- parks will be open this time and they weren't before. go down the list. the parks will be open. the way it works is that the parks are open but the especially the services provided by third parties things like the trash won't get picked up. fanny and freddy will be open. post office and tsa will be open but they'll be working for nothing which is not fair. we'll manage the shutdown differently. we are not going to weaponize it and not try to hurt people if you work for the federal government. we need congress to appropriate the funds. that's all the time we have. 11:30. we'll do this again. thank you very much. >> jon: you can see the press

still has a lot of questions there of mick mulvaney and the office of management and budget director as well as marc short the white house legislative affairs director. we are oef 11 1/2 hours from a government shutdown. republicans say the legislation that they passed and sent to the senate last night should be amenable to democrats. democrats are saying unless there is a fix for the daca issue, the dreamers, the 800,000 people brought here illegal as children, unless there is a fix for that issue they aren't in support of this budget. so that is where we stand right now. we will be talking with congressman doug collins in a little while. he does have the ability to join us, congressman, thank you. i know it's a busy day for you on capitol hill. a republican conference vice chair. judiciary committee member as well. so the blame game is underway

in washington first of all i'm getting ahead of myself. we might not see the government shut down. what would you say are the chances at this point? >> i think it's all in a matter of chuck schumer. if chuck schumer wants a shutdown he will get one. it is up to them to say we'll continue to work doing the things we need to do as responsible legislators to make sure the government stays open. the democrats are the ones that chose to focus on the shutdown. this is an amazing topic. there is nothing in this bill that they oppose. there is nothing a clean cr, chip funding for kids. we are talking about not voting for kids health insurance. something they've screamed about on the floor many times. they voted against it last night in the house and trying to hold it up again. this is simply a play on a policy that is out of the mainstream. if they are willing to put the country into this fiscal position over an illegal

immigrant issue which the president is committed oh solving, it will be a story they'll have to tell. >> jon: that's the issue. they're willing to say 800,000 now adults brought here illegally as children by their parents, parents broke the law, brought them here, but the country has to come up with a solution to their legal standing or immigration standing if you will, the country has to do that and democrats are willing to set their political future on that issue versus passing the federal budget. >> i'm all about principle. if that's the hill they want to go up on and place their flag and stake it that's okay. they will show the american people they are choosing this issue which is not over yet, which is still going to march which they've already had a federal judge actually go into apply for extensions. you have a president who said i want to solve this.

you have a party in the house and senate both republicans who say we want to solve this. there has to be a way we can get to that issue. if that's where they want to go they need to look at the military fam laoels in the face and say we'll mess with funding for a little while. they look at the folks around the country and say we aren't putting your interests at stake. when we have given them something that they have voted on, they want and democrats voted on last night i'm amazed now this is the stand that they have chosen to take. if this is what they want it's the schumer shutdown and we'll see what happens from there. >> jon: democrats are convinced republicans will get the blame because your party controls all three branches of government. how do you answer that? >> just like was just said at the previous press conference. the answer to that. the senate until they change the 60-vote rule for appropriationss bill democrats have to come on board. our leadership has given them a bill they can vote for and that they have previously said they wanted. these are the kind of things they have to make a choice.

it is not about the bill anymore. please i think the american people need to see this. it is not the bill in front of them. it's about a policy from their extreme groups that say we want you to do something now that doesn't have a bill attached. ist is ideas and promises. we'll shut the government down based on something that we don't even have the ability to vote on this minute and i think it's an affront to the american people. if they want to answer that that's what they have to do. this is a reality they know they need to come over. they are playing a stunt. by the way i tend to agree with mick mulvaney. the previous administration. i was here in 2013. the previous administration was cruel when they got to the shutdown. they wanted to prove that obamacare was what they wanted and they went and closed parks. they put even pylons in the great smoking mountains so people count look at the view. this administration said we'll do everything we can to take care of the people we're called to represent. that's the difference in the two administrations. >> jon: house speaker paul ryan

made statements earlier this morning and i want to play part of that for you and get your thoughts after it. here he is. >> the senate democrats are holding our men and women in uniform hostage over an unrelated issue. the senate democrats are holding children's health insurance hostage for an unrelated issue. so every one of our republican members realize that's just wrong. >> jon: that issue would be congressman the daca program, right? >> exactly. i serve on the rules committee in the house as well in addition to serving in leadership. i have been inundated the last several months on the issue of chip. you can't get chip solved. they didn't want to pay for it at first and then we give them the bill that is not paid for exactly what they've been asking for the democrats have been asking fore several months and now they voted against it last night on floor. i would like to know how they explain that to their constituents back home. we voted again not to extend your health insurance when we

have states within the next few days that will run out of funds. look, the democrats have a lot of explaining to do. explaining has to start on why they put people second to a policy that is not even due on ahn unrelated issue they are willing to hold the government and children hostage and military families hostage to a policy that can be involved and is promised to be solved and is not due at this moment. it's an untenable situation. >> jon: congressman doug collins, a member of the judiciary committee. thank you for spending time with us today. >> melissa: more on the continuing countdown to a possible government shutdown. president trump had planned to fly to florida today. not anymore. john roberts joins us from the white house next.

>> melissa: the clock is ticking to keep the government open. president trump postponing a

trip to florida to celebrate the one year anniversary of his inauguration as a shutdown looms in washington a spending bill passed in the house last night but democrats are threatening to derail it in the senate. counselor to the president kellyanne conway denouncing democrats who say a shutdown will work in their favor. >> under donald trump's leadership and really just the straight party line vote i think which is also unfortunate you saw democrats resist being on the right side of history's massive tax cut. >> melissa: john roberts is live from the north lawn. wow, shaping up to be another really busy day, john. how is it going? >> one of those things you think at some point congress would be able to agree on budgets to fund the federal government, not just the continuing resolutions, but clearly the president is going to spend the rest of today working on all of this. we're told he is not going to go to florida today. if the government shuts down he

may potentially not go at all. the president tweeting this morning government funding bill passed last night in the house of representatives. now democrats are needed if it's to pass in the senate. they want illegal immigration and weak borders. president worked the phones yesterday to try to get that bill through the house. we saw that briefing just a short time ago at the legislative affair director marc short. going to the hill every day trying to get deals on the continuing resolution and daca along with the office of management and budget director mick mulvaney. where they are right now is they are laying the ground work -- trying to lay the public relations ground work to blame the shutdown on the democrats and calling it the schumer shutdown. they point out the democrats are not opposing anything that is actually in the continuing resolution. some republicans have simply opposed the idea of a continuing resolution at all. they want to see a two year

budget measure saying the democrats don't oppose anything in the bill. what they want to do is want to add on these other things that have nothing to do with government spending and that is the fix for the deferred action childhood arrivals program, the dreamers program. the legislative affairs director marc short saying there is no daca legislation for anybody to vote on. even if we said let's attach it to the continuing resolution that won't be ready for some time. i asked marc short, the guy going up to the hill all the time trying to get these negotiations done, what as a practical matter can you do between now, 11:45 on friday and midnight tonight to try to get this thing done? here is his answer. >> one of our challenges, i don't think it's clear what the democrats are asking for. they want a solution to daca. there is not bill text that they are asking republicans to bring up. they really believe for political reasons it's better for them to force a shutdown. the president is continuing to reach out to them and he will

continue to do so. >> we don't know how much headway the president will be able to make on the phones today. what we saw a second ago is two-fold exercise really. an exercise to save the dem -- shift the blame to the democrats because the obama administration very effectively the last time put the blame on republicans. it's to say we're not responsible for this. it is also to try to shame the democrats into coming on board and supporting this continuing resolution. the bottom line for the white house is they are not opposed to anything regarding spending. in fact, they support provisions in the bill like funding the chip program, children's health insurance program for six years, delaying the medical device implementation tax and delaying the cadillac tax. we'll see if they have success. the clock is ticking. >> melissa: there is nothing in

there they find offensive, they just want to add daca to the end of it which isn't necessary until march 5th and there is no legislation that has been written that can be slapped on between now and midnight that would solve the problem. that was basically the thrust of it. we'll see how democrats respond. john roberts, thank you. >> jon: we'll hear from nancy pelosi 45 minutes from now. how the air force is teaming up with silicon valley to fight america's enemies. >> it's all about decision making faster than the enemy. dynamic performance, so you can own the road. aggressive styling, so you can break away from everyone else. the bold lexus is.

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>> setting up to be a wild hour coming up on "outnumbered". the clock is ticking on this shutdown, possible shutdown, that is. will either side blink?

will the american people blame republicans or democrats? >> president trump will speak live by satellite to pro-life leaders next hour making him the first president ever to do so and discuss what that means for the movement. >> all that plus the #one lucky guy. "outnumbered" nine minutes away. so good. >> jon: one of the world's mostly let fighting forces about to become more effective. the pentagon and silicon valley are teaming up with the u.s. air force. leah gabriel live. >> air warfare is a symphony in the sky of fighter and attack aircraft, tankers, drones and other support craft. until recently many of the tools for things like the planning, coordination and decision making were antiquated. in some cases the military was using dry erase markers on white boards. here is how that is changing.

>> it's all about decision making faster than the enemy. >> on today's complex battle fao*elds winning often comes down to timing and saving time. lieutenant general jeffrey is the commander of the air war in iraq, syria and afghanistan. >> we can't do what we need to do every day without software that's the leading edge. >> seeking greater efficiency on the battlefield is why the military is partnering with silicon valley. >> there is a target we want to get after quickly and put ordinance on it. >> do i engage or not? >> pivotal software is one of the companies trying to help the military work smarter and faster. >> a bunch of chat windows open on a computer screen. 20 or more. and then a bunch of people start looking into systems to find out where is that target and what munition would be

appropriate, do we engage or not? >> companies like his went to the air operations center to see how they could help. >> they saw lots of white boards and spread sheets and lots of writing and erasing and a very manually intensive process. >> even planning where and when to have refueling tankers was cumbersome and dated. >> it is about 60 air refueling tankers and tag onto that another 150 to 200 fighters every day. you can't show fighters show up and not have a tanker there. it would take us 8 to 10 hours to do that every day. >> the solution, make an app for that putting software experts next to airmen. >> we paired this them and taught them a new way to build software and built the application side-by-side with them. >> the air force says it takes half the manpower, half the time and saves nearly $1

million of fuel per week and a program to answer the war fighter question to engage or not to engage? >> using microsoft word, excel, google earth and a tool that manages the targets and decision maker to see the information at once and immediately get after the target. it allows us to stay in front of the enemy. >> central command spokesman says decision makers can make quicker and better informed realtime decisions because they have one app that used to require 16 different programs. another program for planning strategic strikes against targets, things like taliban narcotics facilities in afghanistan. that app cuts the time from what used to take two days down to several hours, jon. >> jon: we know strikes against the taliban facilities in afghanistan are way up this year. leah gabriel. thank you. >> melissa: the march for life taking place on the national mall in d.c. today. why president trump's speech at the pro-life event will make history.

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>> jon: it is going to be about ten months before the fbi releases a final report on the las vegas massacre. investigators are still trying to learn stephen paddock's motive for opening fire on that crowded concert in vegas. he killed 58 people, injured more than 500 others. the coroner says the gunman's actions were given to his brother. the fbi is expecting to release a full report on the shooting in october. the sheriff's department will hold a 1:00 p.m. eastern time news conference on that shooting. and just about one hour from no now. >> melissa: take a look at this video. scary situation in miami that was caught on camera. an off-duty florida highway patrol officer rescues an unconscious woman. she was trapped in a car after colliding with a police cruiser last november. the passenger door got stuck and

another trooper put up the fire and enough time to get her out. the woman miraculously survived. can you believe it? look at the flame. >> melissa: >> jon: that had toe incredibly hot in a comparable for those officers. we do not give them enough credit. >> melissa: she was unconscious and got her out of the car. really amazing. >> jon: the crop just struck 11:59 on the east coast. you know it happens 11:59 p.m. tonight. >> melissa: the government potentially shuts down. they were making their case, but this is on the backs of democrats that they have put forward a continuing resolution that contains nothing but democrats are against. they agree with absolutely everything that's in there, but there talking quite as they want to add something onto the spending bill, even though there's no emergency to do that. the current situation does not expire until march 5th, and there's no legislation that's

available right now to tack on. >> jon: it will be interesting to see who gets the blame, if it happens, or if one side might blank. we will be watching it for you throughout the day. thank you for joining us. >> melissa: "outnumbered" starts right now. >> sandra: we are waiting for marx and president trump it he is going to address march for life participants via satellite from the rose garden. the activists are gathering at the mall to walk to the nation's capital to net capital approach is about legalized abortion. mr. trump's speech will march the first time in the event 45 year history, that a sitting president addresses the crowd to a live video feed. back to your advice come up vice president mike pence spoke last year. we will bring you to live when he began speaking. fox news alert on a major showdown in the senate. with a government shutdown at stake, a source telling fox news to expect a shutdown. they