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kind of. so tweet me and react to my interview, as well. we'll be doing more of that tomorrow night. have no fear because shannon bream when the "fox news @ night" team are all over this evening's big news developments. shannon. >> shannon: there are plenty of them. thank you so much. big news on special counsel robert mueller and president trump tonight. plus a whole lot more. five months worth of missing texts between two former members of robert mueller's team accused of anti-trump buyers were covered by a government watchdog. ed henry is following the storm of controversy that messages are causing on capitol hill and beyond. plus, it is a highly secretive memo accusing the fbi and doj of abuse in government surveillance implicate james comey or other top officials? utah congressman chris stewart is here with the inside scoop. and while the president's proposal and immigration bring congress closer to adl or deeper?
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chris stirewalt has the answers. ♪ >> shannon: hello and welcome to "fox news @ night." i'm shannon bream in washington. new tonight, three major stories breaking at this late hour. "the new york times" reporting that president trump ordered special cancer robert mueller fired. he reportedly backed down after the white house counsel threatened to resign rather than carry out the directive. we have brand-new insider information about what really happened. there are also late breaking developments tonight on the missing text messages now found between fbi agents peter strzok and place a page. the white house has released a potentially legislative finding controversial new immigration plan. team coverage tonight, doug mckelway on daca under new gambit by president trump already firing up the right. we begin as chief national correspondent ed henry working the phones on the mueller story and breaking some news himself.
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good evening. >> great to see you. the phone is still being worked and we are breaking tonight we had a source close to the white house telling fox "the new york times" is accurate, the president hold the top officials last summer that he wanted to fire robert mueller. the white house counsel donald mcgahn and other aids convince the president not to do it. this source could not confirm or deny whether he actually threatened to resign over it. but the source added that in june, 2016, top aides at the time, reince priebus, steve bannon, believed the president was in fact going to fire mueller, very worried about the political fallout. they said in the words of the source, "this is going to blow up." that is why they pushed back, in the end, the key is the president did not fire mueller, obviously. ty cobb, the white house lawyer, i spoke to him a few moments ago, he would not confirm or deny any of this but said, "we declined to comment out of respect for the office of the special counsel and its process." also breaking today, sort of the
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second track on these big stories involving investigations. the justice department inspector general has recovered thousands of text messages between the two fbi officials that had somehow gone missing. there are other new ones from an earlier time. mac. what we are learning will pour some gasoline on this fire about an alleged anti-trump bias. republican senator charles grassley said that he is see new text messages from that earlier time period and 2016 and they show these fbi officials were worried about how they would be perceived by a future president hillary clinton if they were too tough on her during her fbi interview about the email server. the exact concern that allies of president trump have been raising in recent weeks. then there are new texts showing that in march 2016, peter strzok and lisa paige talked about the possibility of a need for a special counsel to investigate the clinton email situation, they even raise the possibility of bringing back patrick fitzgerald. remember, he was a special counsel in the valerie plane
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case. at one point, saying, don't forget that comey was a deputy attorney general and appointed fitzgerald a special counsel and that he was therefore comey's investigating. strzok texted back... so these are new messages for march 2016. remember we have been told they were more messages from decembe7 that were gonna somehow. government officials told fox today the justice department now got back all of those texts by taking possession of them at least four phones belonging to mueller and page, a development they jumped on today. meanwhile, charles grassley said it appears that strzok and page transported confidential files on their nongovernment phones. they appear to have done the same thing as hillary clinton, in part because of one text
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exchange, where strzok says to paige, "gmailed two drafts about the development." a response about getting it on the home computer. grassley is saying there may be a whole lot more where congress has to dig in and find out if there were other devices beyond those four phones that might give us a little bit more insight into what was happening inside the fbi, shannon. >> shannon: very interesting. keep us up-to-date. i know you are still working the phones. let us know. thank you. reaction pouring into night to the new immigration outline released by the white house tonight. doug mckelway has the very latest, he joins us now. it seems like folks on both sides of the i'll have plenty to say. >> we now have before us, the trump administration's long-awaited framework on daca. here are the details, it provides a path to citizenship for an estimated 1.8 million dreamers of the next ten years. $25 billion for border security, including a wall. other security features and personnel. at the limits of chain migration
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to spouses and minor children, no extended family. i eliminate the vita lottery, which critics maintain was ripe with abuse. the key question is how little fight in congress? the conservative and influential act on my curative actions as the number of dreamers that grant amnesty to come a 1.8 million, is too high. it risks opening pandora's box and could lead to a gang of eight style negotiation, a nonstarter. two synod immigration hard liners, tom cotton and david perdue, cocked and calling it generous and humane. purdue agrees, putting an end to extended family chain migration. conservative ted cruz of texas told reporters "i do not believe we should be granting a path to citizenship to anybody here illegally." illinois democratic senator dick durbin is skeptical. saying "it would put the administration's entire hard-line immigration agenda, including massive cuts to legal immigration, on the backs of these young people." house minority leader pelosi
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calls it "an active staggering cowardice, attempting to hold the dreamers hostage." another question, shannon, can the house g.o.p. leadership corralled its own conservatives to support the trump remark? >> there will be things that i probably in this bill, if we all work together, that i will vote for, that i wouldn't have by myself. there will be things in here that the other side would have voted for. >> many house conservatives are supporting representative bob goodlad's -- he has set a march 5th deadline for congress to settle the daca issue. things just beginning to get under way, shannon. >> shannon: all right, thank you very much. the new immigration proposal lighting a fire under the right already. not just the numbers we are talking about. 1.8 million but also the idea the so-called dreamers could ultimately become citizens. >> over a period of ten to 12
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years, they do a great job, they work hard, it gives them incentive to do a great job. if they do a great job, i think it's a nice thing to have the incentive of after a period of years, being able to become a citizen. >> shannon: with fox news politics editor and editor of "the halftime report, chris stirewalt. how are you? >> word up. >> shannon: how do you feel about what happened for in the white house today? >> i'm surprised about how workable it is. you have the start of potentially something big, the beginning of donald trump had a very runge launched his presidency. but, i think this is off a piece with the mueller part, we heard a lot of, oh, he was going to fire mueller for him he didn't. his counsel got him to not fire mueller, he did not. yes, the white house was not honest about that, they misled everybody about that. because there were contemporaneous reports but they didn't do it.
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part of the maturation of this administration a part of the maturation of this president is that you got to do something on immigration because of the republicans don't use this opportunity, don't use this moment, when they have the white house and both houses of congress, to do something here, this will be around their necks forever. this will never, ever, ever go away. the question now, a fundamental question, trump is ready to deal. he is talking about these people and guess what, the hardliners are right. this is a framework that could be expanded to the rest of the people in the united states illegally, but haven't broken the laws. but this is a pretty big matzoh ball they have hanging out here. >> shannon: folks on the left and right, again, dipping into what senator cruz said, i do not believe we should be granting a path to citizenship anyone here illegally. for some reason, that is inexplicable. we see republicans falling all over themselves to gallop to the left of obama in a way that is contrary to the promises made to the voters who elected them. he does not like it. from the left, we have this from
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the aclu... >> other than that, they thought it was great. also i believe that nancy pelosi has now just become a twitter bot that uses different incendiary -- armageddon -- >> shannon: end of the world, frankenstein. >> ted cruz is running for reelection, i don't think he can get -- the filing deadlines have passed. this is why the republicans are always in a pickle and immigration. there is too much goodies for politicians who are willing to move outside. you have something, tom cotton, he wants to reduce illegal immigration, the hard line of the hard-line, this is something he says, ted cruz, i don't know if he is future presidential aspirations, we haven't even heard from the people in the house, the super hardliners, there is still political advantage to be had in finding a space even to the right of tom cotton and donald trump. >> shannon: let's talk about
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tom cotton. he's been really tough on this issue. he talked about a scaling back legal immigration. today, this is what he said. the president's framework is generous and humane while also being responsible. if you got caught in on board, he was one of the ones that allegedly had the [bleep] comments, and the bipartisan agreement, felt that they were blindsided by the hawks. >> i will bet that cotton and purdue had more than a little bit to do with the writing of this plan. i wouldn't be surprised at all to learn that they did. the question for republicans is pretty simple. they have good momentum going, tax cuts, the won round one of the shutdown wars. if they cannot pass legislation, i will state it simply and plainly, if they cannot pass immigration, the way they did, look at how it worked on the shutdown. the house has to pass legislation, they have to get the republicans together in the senate and they have to force the democrats into action. if they tear at each other's throats right now they will put themselves right back where they were. >> shannon: we have various
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polls showing that across party lines, 70-80% of americans say that they want some kind of resolution that gives legal status to daca recipients. citizenship, something short of that, work permits. plenty of popularity. what would it mean to the trump presidency, to his legacy, if this got out on his watch? >> it would rewrite the story. the story of the trump presidency is rewritten if he is the guy that can finally solve what has bedeviled presidents since reagan. how do you do this, come up with a deal that works? here is what his challenges. extremists on the left and on the right don't want that 75% popular solution. they want to either essentially no borders or no restrictions or draconian measures. trump finding a way to push both through and get there with the support of his base, mostly intact, this is going to be a tough political maneuver. it would be the defining thing of his presidency. it would change the narrative on a presidency that we have -- at the beginning, we would have never said this is where we'd be
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today. >> shannon: my understanding, the white house wants this to go through through the senate. we know it's looming around the house. we'll see if they can meet in the middle because we know these are very different proposals. >> light them up. >> shannon: you always liked it up. >> happy thursday. >> shannon: thanks for coming in. an update on my deadly high school shooting into kentucky earlier this week by the 15-year-olds suspect accused of killing two students was detained this afternoon at his first court appearance. police have yet to publicly release his identity but prosecutors say they want them to be tried as an adult. he's been charged rhetorical counts of murder in 12 counts of assault. why emergency agency who pushed the button over the listed missile warning, not cooperating with investigators. the fcc is disappointed in the refusal by the employee and hopes "that person will reconsider." we'll keep you updated. yet another congressman says he will not run for reelection. republican -- he settled a
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former sexual harassment complaint with taxpayer money. he says the issue has become a major distraction at, adding, "i need to own it." you see me headlines about the michigan doctored deported 40 years after he came to the u.s. there's a whole lot more about a story. trace gallagher helps us separate fact from fiction. #releasethememo, the memo, a abuses of includes james comey. utah congressman chris stewart, who has seen the memo, says there is more americans should be worried about. he joins us live next. later on, the speculation mounting that john kerry is taking another run at the white house, outrage grows over reports he may be undermining president trump's efforts toward middle east peace. we will dig deeper on that story. ♪ sir! how many of 'em? we don't know. dozens. all right! let's teach these freaks some manners! good luck out there, captain!
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mccabe, deputy attorney general rob rosenstein, and former fbi director james comey. chris stewart is a republican congressman from utah, member of the house intelligence committee, so he would've had a hand hand in putting this memo together. great to have you with us tonight. i know you must be careful about the information in the memo. there is quite a debate. can you confirm for us any of those names and whether they would be relevant as part of the memo? >> you know, i would rather not. we'll wait and see. i can tell you this. we intend to release the memo. i certainly intend to vote for it. i don't know any republican members of the committee who aren't going to vote to release the snow and we should release the memo. it is so ironic to me the justice department coming to us, treating us like we are children, like we have to come to them, mom and dad, can we get your permission to do this? we are the people's house. we have a constitutional duty and a constitutional right to make these decisions. this is a house investigation. for the department of justice,
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who's been stonewalling us for months and months, even in the face of a subpoena, to come to us and say, don't release it until we review it, and hopefully i think they would want to stop us from releasing it, we won't do that. the american people deserve to know the contents of what this memo has. >> shannon: does the memo, as is prepared now, has classified information? is it something that is available to release with outward actions? >> very close to it. we wrote it with the expectation that we would try to release it if possible. so there is very little, i mean, i would not release the memo as it currently stands. there's a few phrases, lines, that i think we would want to redact. it's very close to something we could release anyway. by the way, as a former air force pilot, i'm used to dealing with the most classified information that there is in the united states government and this memo doesn't come close to that level of sensitivity. this is something that when people read it, they'll go, of course this should have been released. of course we have a right to
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know. it doesn't reveal classified sources or methods in any way. >> shannon: we talked about how some have called it alarming. i know congress and said he wished he had a dreaded because it was depressing to him that he united states. on the other side, you have democrats, congressman out of wisconsin who said, release it, but this is his take. i have read the so-called classified memo and i can assure you that it is all smoke and no fire. i come i too, call for its release to once in all and the fbi witch hunt. to get a democrat saying that he wants to put it out to you but for very different reasons. >> good for him. we will let people have their own judgment on this. it's hard for me to imagine anyone reading this memo and just shrugging their shoulders and saying that is no big deal. i assure you that most people will not. maybe some very partisan people will come of people who -- the same people, frankly, who don'tt us to release it, but why in the world would democrat or republican not want
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transparency? since when is the democratic party not for transparency? again, we look forward to the american people having access to this and letting them decide for themselves whether they think it's important or not. >> shannon: you have said, or hinted at the fact that you think there are other things, as part of this investigation, you find troubling, aside from the memo, that you also think the american people need to know about. can you tell us anything about that and whether that information might ultimately be released? >> oh, my gosh. to say that i'm troubled by this stuff is in an enormous understatement. this is the beginning of the report that we want to give to the american people that deal with incredibly troubling -- and i try to soften my language, by the way, i think sometimes there is too much bluster, too much drama -- but this is incredibly, incredibly troubling. i'm not talking about just this memo. i'm talking about the report over all that we are eventually going to have to release to the market people. it deals with the politicalization of agencies
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that just shouldn't be -- i'm not talking about the agency as an entirety, i'm talking about very senior, a few very senior people within the department of justice, fbi, and in some cases, the cia, why in the world with these things be made into the political arm of one party or the other? it doesn't matter if you are a democrat or republican. that should be troubling to you. it should be troubling to every american to think that might have happened. >> shannon: very quickly, obviously the ranking member, adam schiff, said that democrats are preparing their own memo. he says it's to point out that the g.o.p. is misleading characterization of what you put in that memo and essentially saying that you are doing a disservice to the good people of the fbi. my assumption is you are not trying to sweep up everyone that works of the agency. >> of course not. i look forward to reading this memo. when i say this memo, i'm talking about the democratic members of the committee. look, this memo we will release is very straightforward. it's very factual. it's not emotional. we draw no conclusions. we allow the leader to draw
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their own solutions. if they want to put forward something out that her about that, i look forward to reading it. once again, facts are the facts, and all we do is lay out the facts. i don't know what they could possibly put forward to refute that. it will be interesting to see. i am looking forward to it because i'm thinking, oh, my gosh, talking about making a puzzle and turning it upside down, that is what they have to do. >> shannon: we are looking forward to seeing both in due time. congressman stewart, thank you very much for your time. >> thanks, good to be with you. >> shannon: the case of a michigan doctor arrested on immigration charges has generated a whole lot of publicity. we will separate fact from fiction in this emotional, controversial case. >> i received a phone call from lucas that he had been detained, and i kept saying to him over and over -- >> shannon: or a member how the iranians kicked up trouble
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>> shannon: a fox news alert now. more fallout from the sex abuse case ever announced sports dr. larry nasser. a strongly worded letter coming out from the u.s. olympic committee a day after the doctor was sentenced to up to 175 years in prison for sexually abusing members of the u.s. gymnastics team and others. tonight, the usoc is demanding the resignation of the entire usa gymnastics board. and giving the usa gymnastics board six days to comply or face immediate decertification, despite repeated calls from athletes to stop holding the training camps, where he abused his victims, usa gymnastics apparently did not terminate the agreement until last thursday. we will keep you updated on
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that. the world is fraught with fake news and we are checking into the case of a michigan doctor, an immigrant from poland, who was at risk of being deported. trace gallagher joins us to separate fact from fiction. >> dr. lucas needs is a polish citizen who has lived in the united states for 30 years, a green card holder and a legal permanent resident of the u.s. it is also a danger of being deported ns and cnn tells us, the reason he could be sent back to his home country is because of misdemeanors he committed 25 years ago when he was 17, specifically maliciously malics destruction of property and receiving stolen property, both of which are considered crimes of moral turpitude. they say he is being unfairly targeted by the trump administration. watch. >> how does this make sense? when the administration said they would go after the hardened criminals, the violent criminals, how does moral turpitude 25 years ago make any sense for a practicing working doctor?
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i don't understand, why is he being targeted? >> cnn failed to mention that while crimes involving moral turpitude certainly make dr. lucaxz niec eligible for deportation, the real reason immigrations and custom enforcement began investigating him is because last year, dr. dr. niec was accused of child abuse. he was never charged but in recent years he has also had 18 other run-ins with police, things like speeding tickets, careless driving, causing an accident. in 2008, he was convicted of drunk driving, and in 2013, he was tried and found not guilty of domestic violence. the deputy director of i.c.e. says the laundry list of police encounters put the doctor front and center on the radar of immigration agents. as for midi allegations that dr. niec is being unfairly targeted, it should be noted that trump administration administration has openly and repeatedly directed immigration authorities to focus efforts on illegal immigrants at the border and those suspected, accused, or convicted of committing a crime.
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shannon. >> shannon: trace, thank you very much for digging into that for us. there were reporting tonight from "the wall street journal" that the persian gulf is quiet, eerily quiet. the iranian military reportedly halted routine harassment by its armed boats out of u.s. navy boats in the gulf. five months since the last encounter. reporting of the apparent shift in iranian behavior is coming as the iran nuclear deal peters on the brink with president trump. as well as overall tough talk with tehran, a major contrast to the obama administration. the navy is not commenting on what it believes is behind fisa iran's change in tactics, other than to say we hope it will continue in the future. the war of words continued between the u.s. and turkey over the trump administration's continued support for kurdish fighters in syria, who are battling isis. that all risks bringing u.s. troops into the cross hairs of a nato ally. lucas tomlinson has more from the pentagon.
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>> with isis fight winding down, turkey wants he want to end it support to a key ally in syria. launching attacks across the border against kurdish forces, today, the pentagon warrant on kara to pull back. >> i think the degree to which focuses taken out the reason we are in syria, which is to go after isis, is the degree to which it damages the overall effort. so it is not helpful to have these operations go on. we recognize that. we are working with the turks to minimize that red stick of the u.s. military's partnership kurdish fighters against races has come at a cost, turkey has fought a decades long battle against a kurdish separatist group responsible for killing tens of thousands. a top kurdish official warned the u.s. it could take action soon. those who support the terrorist organization will become a target in this battle. the united states needs to review its soldiers and elements giving support to terrorists on the ground and such a way as to avoid a confrontation with turkey. the u.s. has roughly 2,000 troops on the ground in syria.
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hundreds located in the city of man bridge, only 60 miles each of where the air strikes are taking place. some of these troops have come under fire by turkish bash syrian fighters. there were no casualties reported on either side but the americans did shoot back adding to the dangers they already face in the ground battling isis. >> wherever u.s. troops are they will be able to defend themselves. because they are not in a crisis. turkey is an ally. we are going to work with them. but this current issue offensive is a distraction. >> and a call with a turkish counterpart, the white house at president trump "urged turkey to exercise caution and to avoid any actions that mike wrist conflict between turkish and american forces." today turkish officials pushed back on the white house account of the call, saying president trump did not raise any of those concerns about escalating violence. shannon? >> shannon: thank you very much, lukas. where in the world tonight. "nbc nightly news" anchor lester holt offending a recent report
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from north korea. he says the trip was worth it despite reporting from in front of the ski resort run is a sham propaganda tool by kim jong un himself. he called the ski resort a source of immense pride for a country trying to present a modern face to the world. reports tonight said the resort is typically empty and the north korean government brought in skiers wearing identical outfits to fill up the slopes for the special visit by nbc. now to india, where there is tight security tonight at the premiere of the controversial new movie. tonight's release follows protests, they are angry, this movie apparently portrayed the romance between a queen and a muslim invader. some of the protests have turned violent, leading to the tight security in many theaters fusing to air the film. authorities are worried that a mountain is going to blow. as been rafting with a for weeks but scientists say it is swelling with magma. they are having a hard time
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and many noted the corporate tax cut as a positive thing. let's discuss it and more with fox news contributor and editor at town hall, katie pavlich and philippe rightness, former advisor to secretary of state hillary clinton. we heard all of us ahead of time, he will be a full and a china shop, these people are relieved and fancy pants, they won't like him and his diet cokes and rambling around. this is what bloomberg said today, they say that it was a scene more reminiscent of president donald trump's own cabinet meetings than a staid form of global leaves and this swiss alps. trump at a table of top executives, holding court as they took turns trying to impress him, philippe. >> if you have to be the bowl of a china shop, you have to be the ball. they did a few things that were smart. first, the sheer act of going. for the minute they took off yesterday, that was smart. go right to the valley of the elitist beast. two, the clip you just showed was very savvy of them because unlike most bilateral meetings are multilateral, foreign,
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organizational meetings, these had global business meters and i gave him an opportunity to talk about his economic messages ande could not sit with. on the flip side, his foreign policy goes with him wherever he goes. and that was where they had a little bit of a bump today, sitting with prime minister budget benjamin netanyahu, i agree with the palestinians should either put up or shut up, that's great but not if you declare that you will be the guy to do middle east peace. >> shannon: we saw him today with prime minister netanyahu and also with theresa may from the u.k. to the point about this, adam schiff, one of the top democrats on the hill, said, "trump goes to davos having insulted many of the world leaders to tell them to put america first." apparently this is a different reading a very smart diplomatic strategy and one that is really smart. >> i think the rest of the world is far less offended than we are in america when it comes to the things that are said.
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in terms of what the president presented himself today, you have to remember that before he was a president, he was a businessman. these are his peers. before he came to the oval office, he was working with his people in a different kind of level, they knew who he was, and now they have a different level of respect for him. because he has done a good job domestically on the economy with the majority of the people in the country saying the economy is better than they remember it being, he is taking care of things domestically and therefore can go to a world economic forum and say, we have taken care of things at home and now we can expand out and reach to others to benefit from the things we have done. >> shannon: there is still this chatter that tomorrow, when he gives an address, there will be some people who decide to walk out. we will watch and see. last night, the ambassador said that could be the best thing that could happen to trump because -- >> you are not doing something wrong if you get a walk out in davos. >> shannon: there are a number of democrats who are pooh-poohing these tax cuts as
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we get another announcement by home depot that they will have a thousand dollar bonus to everybody directly because of the tax cuts. but here is how house minority leader nancy pelosi is describing was happening. >> [unintelligible] >> shannon: so she said crumbs. she's not the only one. we saw the same thing from debbie wasserman schultz. it's interesting because we are talking about a thousand dollar bonus. this is now millions of employees who have been impacted by this. democrats want to downplay it. is it the right move? >> i'm glad you two are sitting down. >> shannon: what? water? >> i won't defend what nancy pelosi said. >> oh, my goodness. the larger point, obviously, is that long term, this is not
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how to increase someone's economic well-being. but that is not the way to say it. >> shannon: by giving them a tax cut? >> its short term, a quick boost. i think there's a lot of glitter into it. but that is a legitimate argument. it is not a good idea to say $1,000 is not a big deal. the only people to whom a thousand dollars is not a big deal, -- >> people like nancy pelosi. >> if you are a mouse, that changes the whole meal. >> shannon: a lot of people think this would make a big difference. >> we keep hearing this talking point that this is not long-term, but to a family who is making 40000-$60,000 per year, long-term, they can invest in their college tuition, they can put it into her retirement account, so for them to keep doubling down into this crumbs comment at a time when democrats are struggling with the classification of being the
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party of the elitists, the party of the rich, one of the reasons that hillary clinton could not get the same borders that bernie sanders did, and while donald trump is a billionaire was able to go in as a blue-collar billionaire to these places and relate is because he never downplayed the quality of work or the amount of money, no matter how small or basic that people were earning. we knew here that thousand dollars is nothing to them, to them, it is a lot of money. disrespecting back for my political perspective, i think it is stupid. >> shannon: i think they can identify that he likes buckets of kentucky fried chicken and mcdonald's. >> who doesn't? >> who wants other people using my toothbrush? >> shannon: if you're not down with that -- all right, philippe and katie. this is life and we mark the calendar about what you said. >> there are no democrats watching. [laughter] >> shannon: we have heard plenty about alleged russian collusion but what about palestinian conclusion?
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white house run, former secretary of state john kerry facing tough questions over reports he tried to undermine president trump's mideast peace efforts. he allegedly sent a message to palestinian president mark wade abbas a confidant. "not to give in to trump." >> that kind of advice would be stunningly unpatriotic and i don't think that john kerry would do something like that. >> starting his own peace process, god bless them, knock yourself out. i would like to hear kerry's response. if he denies it, that will be interesting. i don't think he will. i think it has a ring of truth. >> shannon: clifford may is the founder of precedents for the foundation of defense of democracy and he joins us live. thank you. we have reached out through multiple channels or have to try to get clarification or comment from the former secretary of state and we welcome that and we want to have clarity whether these comments did or didn't happen or what he intended. if indeed they were made. what do you make of what you heard so far? >> if indeed that is what he said, that he is attempting to undermine the u.s. government's
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foreign policy, and for a former secretary of state to do that, strikes me as probably unprecedented and probably un-american. you just don't do that. it is no favor to the palestinians to say, don't negotiate, don't be involved in a peace process under trump. wait a year or so, he will be out of office, which we are told he said as well. you will get a more obliging president who will revert to the peace process under the obama administration which achieved nothing. >> shannon: that logic doesn't make any sense. if you think you will end up with a president mike pence, and you think he will be any -- he will cave in any way on israel policy or jerusalem, that seems nonsensical to me. >> maybe he is saying wait for president john kerry and i will help you with that because that is what we are hearing rumors of. i think at this point, i know president trump has a vision of trying to get a peace process going but with mark my divorce, that is pretty hard to do.
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there is hard, he was not somebody who saw himself shaking hands with netanyahu on the white house lawn. he recently had kind of amounts are in, it two our speech that was anti-semitic, and which he said, trump, i hope your house is raised. he really made it clear that he will never sign a peace agreement no matter what deal is put on the table by the israelis. he is 82 years old, he's not in great health, he smokes, he's 14 years into a four year term, only elected once. he is never designated it a successor. i just don't see how he can get to piece from here at this moment. >> shannon: when we were in ramallah, i talked with the top palestinian negotiator, saeb erekat, ask them if they were at the end of the road, was that speech a goodbye? he said short of this president provoking everything that he just said about jerusalem i december 6, they are not coming back to the table. they said they have no voice in
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the process. he just said, until a jerusalem think changes, we are not coming back. >> part of the problem with the peace process is that it is missing an important point. you can't have peace, he took a state solution, unless you accept that they are two states for two peoples. one are the palestinians and one of the jewish people. the jewish people are not recognized by mahmoud abbas as a people. i don't know how you get there from here in that situation as well. >> shannon: the republican jewish coalition, part of their statement was this... >> i think that's true. one of the ways he did that, and recognizing that jerusalem is, as it is come the capital of israel, he is not ruling out the possibility of a palestinian capital in east jerusalem. that is still a possibility.
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but what he's doing is essentially finding a clever way to nullify the body blow given by the obama administration in december, 2016, u.n. security council resolution 23334 come with us or jerusalem, including the jewish quarter of the old city, doesn't belong to the jewish people, includes including the holiest sites, they don't belong to them. that he legitimizes israel in a way that makes it impossible to have a successful peace process. >> shannon: we've got to leave it there. clifford may, thank you so much. the votes are in. the baseball hall of fame is getting some new members. we will tell you who is an plus what you need to know for tomorrow. ♪ i take pictures of sunrises, but with my back pain i couldn't sleep and get up in time. then i found aleve pm. aleve pm is the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve.
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>> shannon: players during the major league baseball hall of fame this year, vladimir guerrero, trevor hoffman, chipper jones, and jim thome will be director of the cooperstown, new york. congrats. president trump president trump will lay out an american first economic policy tomorrow and what it looks like during a major address of the world economic forum in davos. don't forget, they are threatening a walk out. we'll keep an eye on it.
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in the meantime, most-watched, most trusted, most grateful that you spent the evening with us. good night from washington. i'm shannon bream. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: e well, good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." we have exclusive, never before seen messages, text messages from inside the fbi. these texts are among a thousand sent between fbi agents peter strzok and lisa page between february andnd september of 201. a lot of them are interesting. here's a key text. the agents did exactly what you would hope agents would never do. they expressed concern about whetherr hillary clinton, if she was elected president, would take revenge against the fbi for the crime of investigating her. in
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