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tomorrow is international holocaust remembrance day. let's watch most trusted and you spent the evening with with us. have a great weekend. >> good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight". the white house has released offer for immigration deal. it gives dreamers everything they wanted, legalization and path to citizenship. many that broke our laws to get here would receive amnesty. very few supporters wanted that and are upset. the left, their reaction? having got what they demanded, they're enraged. not only is the amnesty not enough, they say it is a racist
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plot. the aclu says the only people that benefit is white supremacist. it was called a white supremacist ransom note. the columnist king said that it proved the current operating philosophy in the white house was racist and was said to be a burning cross. >> the president put together a plan to make america white again. they're changing the character of our country by what they're putting forth. they bring a tear to the eye of the statue of liberty and they bring fear to the hearts that people are here playing by the rules. >> we could go on and on and on. it is everywhere today. they're telling you this is
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something the klan could have produced. we decided to look at what the white house has actually proposed. the plan may be many things, not all good, but it definitely is not a form of white nationalism unless that term has opposite meaning. it would legalize 2 million people that currently are not legally here. that's a lot of people. currently 13 states have p populations than that. how many of those beneficiaries are white? that would be the central question in this plan crafted by white supremacist. let's see. 2 million. 2 million nonbe white people, that's more than the population of delaware and nebraska. it doesn't look like a burning cross. lost more. the proposal would continue the current system of migration
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until the back log is exhausted which would be years. what would be the arrangement under the trump plan. if you consider finland and norway and others, no european country is on the list. the plan would admit a million more immigrants from mexico and hundreds of thousands from india. the philippines too. it would bring additional immigrants from haiti, the place the president supposedly hates. no matter what the race baiters are telling you. a white nationalist plot, in the history of dumb talking points, that may be the dumbest of all. it is poisonous too.
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it makes people hate each other and further divides the country. er we don't need more of that. the people repeating it should be ashamed of themselves. they do not. they need to know their line. maybe they don't know. maybe they convinced themselves the rhetoric is true. it is possible the democratic party is insane. they say it is immoral to restrict immigration from any country in any amount for any reason ever. even enforcing our own existing laws, the ones they voted for and passed in congress is tant mount to a hate crime. the public doesn't agree with any of this, so by definition, democrats are extremists on the subject. they don't care. this is their strategy. these are new voters, no matter what it says. this is a former dreamer that joins us tonight.
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>> thank you for having me. >> there's maybe things about this you don't like and that i don't like but it is hard to see a plan that gives legalization and path to citizenship for more than 2 million people here illegally, none of them white is white supremacy. how does that work? >> we need to look back and look at this. the reason we're here is because the president rescinded daca, the program that gave documented young people the ability to go to school and work and drive-pay taxes. he ended that program. that's why we're here. >> hold on. you want to do that. stop. no. no. i'm going to ask you a question. slow. >> my turn to speak. >> i don't believe it is. >> i want to ask you a question about the discussion today. no about the roots of daca that i'm happy to debate in another
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form. i want to talk about this response to the proposal last night which is white supremacy. >> i'm trying to give an answer. >> a crisp answer, please. >> listen. it was trump that ended the daca program and he did so because he wanted to hold hostage and use bargaining chips the lives of undocumented people who have been here their entire life and american in every single way, now what we're trying to do is create a second class citizen. that's what -- that's what this program does. the dreamers can become -- >> this is giving people who are here illegal liam nesty and path to citizenship which is what you wanted. how is this white supremacy?
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>> at what price? i'm not calling it white supremacy. what i am saying is that -- this plan, what it does, it creates a second class citizen. it says that the dreamers can become citizens themselves but they cannot sponsor their parents. they cannot sponsor their siblings. those rights are different than the rights you have. you said earlier the plan, the 2 million people, none are white, which is untrue. there's 50,000 undocumented irish people. >> they're not covered by this. that's my point. there's definitely undocumented. i absolutely believe you. it is -- i don't care actually about -- about the race of the dreamer. i do believe you. my only point is, that what you're seeing is not expression of white supremacy, so i wish you and your friends would stop
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making that point because it is a lie and divisive. it it is not true. it makes people hate each other. >> it is a plan that makes, it is a plan that would make 2 million people who are mostly people of color have less rights than white citizens. so that is -- that is it. >> tucker: it is racist. you come in the country illegally as you did, you have a moral right -- >> i did not come in illegally. i came in on a plane. >> i totally misunderstood. >> i overstayed my visa. >> you were here illegally, i guess that's what i said. >> my point is that -- >> if you're here illegally. >> you cannot break the law. >> but -- the parents that brought them to this country -- you're saying the parents have a
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right to become citizens also. i wonder where that right comes from. >> listen. if i become -- i'm a u.s. citizen. if i want my mother to come visit me and to be able to come be with me as a united states citizen, i should have that right. you have that right. you have a mother in a different country, you would sponsor her. >> tucker: you sneak in the country and you have a child and that child has citizenship. and then you come illegally. how does this work exactly? why should i be for that? >> going back to what i made at the beginning. we're in this situation is because president ended daca. >> let's talk about -- >> now we are -- >> you're not answering my
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question. you're saying if i sneak into somebody else's country and i bring my child and my child gets citizenship i deserve it too. why? give me an answer. >> the reason why is if these people become united states citizens as they would under this plan, they should have the right of -- as every other american citizen has. why should this person, if we're making them citizens -- >> because you came in illegally, that's why. we don't want to reward that behavior. >> then they should have the same rights as every united states citizen. >> let me ask you. the aclu described this as the supposed generosity of giving citizenship to people here illegally. do you think it is generous of this the united states to give them citizenship? >> i think we're talking about two different things. >> simple question.
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do you think it is generous to give people that are here citizenship? >> i don't think it is generous to separate families and create second class citizens. >> i don't know why we would bring in people not grateful for being with an american citizen. we're out of time. she is a columnist and joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. you have a great piece on lindsey graham who won the republican nomination. he has a right to oppose immigration rules in the country. how does that work? >> i want to say trump is right. the dreamers are fabulous, they're great, i can't wait for them to become the fellow citizens. >> i think everybody is wondering from where is lindsey graham coming from?
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he ran for president and literally got zero votes. he was the first and most vicious in attacking donald trump the candidate. why does he have a seat at the table at all on immigration? muchless he's the leader of what the republicans stand for? as i say in the column, it makes any -- any normal observer think the fix is in. why are other republican senators allowing this? if it was in the iraq war, the republicans wouldn't allow antiwar. republican chuck hagel, he represents our views on the war. no, not him. don't talk to him. why is the media talking to him and the president? he doesn't represent us. but the donors want the cheap labor. one thing that is going to be fun if we lose this is watching all of these shortsighted idiot
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businessmen trying to run a business with the likes of pelosi. >> that would be interesting. there's a deeper question about democracy here. if the public is clear in poll after poll about what it wants and doesn't want on immigration and it went about electing trump, just to express that view, and it still can't get what it wants, is it possible for the public to have a say in this? >> it is amazing. it is beyond what you described. i was looking for the transcript. the fact that donald trump is president, it was utterly implausible. a hollywood movie. you see these polls showing americans love dreamers. they love them, like the one that you interviewed. who couldn't love her. they love them. every time they have an actual ballot, every time, for 20 years now they'll vote for bail for
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illegals and government services for illegals. there's a harvard poll that came out that said more americans would like zero immigration than the current immigration polls. the way they pull off these polls, i want them to know, they personalize it. do you want to deport this person? no. i want questions like do you want more or less immigration? do you think people break the law? should people become citizens and collect welfare? do you think we should dump low wage workers in the country? trump may think he's a genius. some ways he is. he has uncanny sense for what are popular issues. that's why he won. he may be able to roll over the never trumpers but if he
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continues, former trumpers are going to be a difficult category. >> you could get a bad backlash. thank you for coming on. i appreciate that. hillary clinton may have taken a page. seemed like she did from the lisa blume book by protecting a staffer. we have all of the details next.
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♪ ♪ >> tucker: hillary clinton was
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clear on the campaign trail. unambiguous victims of sexual abuse should be believed always and everywhere. >> sexual assault needs to be treated with seriousness and professionalism that it deserves. i want to send a message, don't let anyone silence your voice. you have a right to be heard and believed and we're with you. >> tucker: we're with you. clear about the rule. there was an exception she didn't mention. it was people that worked for her. in 2008 hillary clinton personally intervened to keep strider on her team after sexually assaulting. he was sent to counseling. thanks for coming up. >> hi. >> tucker: i try not to tell
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hillary stories because she's not running but this subject is at the center of our conversation and has been an advocate for many years. are you stunned that won who would say always believe the victim would do this? >> no, i find it completely unsurprising. just to point out the obvious. hillary is a fraud. her word are completely meaningless. they've long been meaningless. she's only an advocate for herself and those politicallied a -- a political advantage. >> tucker: if hillary says one thing to private equity people and other to farmers in iowa but
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this is central to her persona. sexual assault and abuse she should track on her own staff. >> she had her husband on the trail. he's long been accused of various things from rape to sexual assault and onward. she had him with her. she's known to go after the victims as well. it goes back to the basic premise that her words are meaningless and she's not to be believed. this was a bigger issue with voters and particularly voters that wanted an advocate. >> tucker: we're all hypocrites and fall short of our standards. >> not to that degree. >> tucker: this is pita covering a kill shelter.
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how do democrats stand that? >> it is the same thing when jillbrand embraced them and then didn't when the al franken controversy. you have suzy bell tompkins who was -- who paid for bloom, paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for accusers and to encourage accusers encouraging president trump of sexual assault allegations who then went after individuals who called franken out for his allegations as well. i don't think there's a shock here to be a hypocritical here. her words are meaningless.
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>> tucker: thank you for your information. shocked. >> i'm not. >> tucker: blaming his own party. they care more about gay marriage than daca. we'll tell you more in a minute. where are we taking him? i have no clue. we're just tv doctors. if this was a real emergency, i'd be freaking out. but thanks to cigna, we can do more than just look heroic. we can help save lives by getting you to a real doctor for a check-up. nurse, this thing's defective. please don't touch that. we are the tv doctors of america. together with cigna reminding you... to go, know, and take control of your health. doctor poses! cigna. together, all the way.
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democrats but nobody more than gutierrez. he said it only happened because they're not gay. this shows me democrats are not willing it to go to the mat to allow people in my community to live in the country legally. patrick has joined us. good to see you. >> good to see you too. >> tucker: i think gutierrez is wrong on most issues but i think -- he's pulling a thread here. there's some insight at the core of this. is it right? >> he's wrong but he's kind of right. the democratic party really i would say they did very little for gay marriage. they pushed the paperwork through once it was politically expedient to do so and the polls said it was okay. >> tucker: they were against it.
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>> oh yeah. what gutierrez is saying, is that the gay marriage push was an upper class prerogative. it was something that vastly white upper middle class white people wanted and donate to congressional members who lobby very hard. so the democratic party sort of -- wouldn't really hold their hand in public for many years with the gay marriage issue. once gay people sort of did this on their own by winning hearts and minds in american culture on the issue, then they threw these people a bone. gutierrez argument is sort of one of essentially class. it is the rich. >> tucker: that's how i read it. not just gay marriage, it is global warming. it is one that they feel is central but doesn't rate for
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those making under 50 grand. do they care about the daca recipients? >> they should because if americans won't vote for you, you have to import people that will. that's why they need to be concerned about this issue. gutierrez is a perfect person to wage this civil war in the democratic party. his district, the 4th district is the definition of gerrymandering. it looks like an earmuff. he basically brought together these latino communities that he represents and if there's one thing that we know about this sort of collectized mentality, the collective group the left bring together, they don't really have much in common. a lot of puerto ricans and mexican-americans are maybe right on social issues.
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>> tucker: one of my least favorite qualities of the left is that people look-a-like are alike which is not true. thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: joe kennedy lost his job in 2015 after he defied an order to stop praying at the 50-yard line. the 9th circuit declined to hear his appeal. he plans to take that to the supreme court. here's mike berry. coach, first to you, were you surprised that the 9th circuit refused to hear this and where does this leave you? >> i wasn't surprised. i go by what i hear from everybody else. it is -- it was a long shot to begin with. where does it leave me? hopefully somebody will actually hear the case and i have a fair
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shot. >> tucker: this is not just one football team and one coach, it is bigger. >> that's right. this is an outrageous decision that really set a dangerous precedent for not just coach but -- but for school employees across the country. this decision if it is not challenged means if you're a jewish employee, you could be fired for wearing a yamka or you're catholic and wear a cross necklace you could be fired. people have been asked from president to the united states to nfl stars pouring out support. the country wants to know what can be done. we encourage people to support coach and get behind this petition to get the supreme court to take this case. >> tucker: i hope people do that. coach kennedy jog our memories. who was offended by this? >> it originally started from a
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compliment. one of the educators saw what we did on the field and paid the school district a compliment said what we were doing was awesome. it was good sportsmanship. it came from compliments. >> tucker: along the way somebody must have been offended or you would not have lost your job. >> only person was really offended was the district lawyers at the time. they continue to fight against me on this. >> tucker: there's no actual victim here. just like the most perverse part. thank you for coming on. good luck, i hope you make it all the way to the supreme court. >> thank you so much. >> tucker: law under consideration in california could send waiters to jail for the crime of murdering their diners, kidding, for offering plastic straws to people. we're going to talk to a fan of that proposal.
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♪ ♪ ♪ >> heroin cocaine, exotic animals, there's a lot of illegal goods. in the state of california, there could be another one, plastic straws. a bill would punish waiters with a thousand dollar fine and six months imprisonment if they offer restaurant straws to patrons without being asked for them. we have a host here to defend it. thanks for coming on. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: this penalty would be the same if passed under california law as the penalty for knowingly transmitting hiv to someone. giving a straw without being asked is the same punishment, does that seem a little over the top to you? >> that's what the law allows,
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as you and know, that's not how they're implemented. in this case the fine would likely be the situation. as an employee of an establishment it would ultimately be the establishment that pays the fine, not the waiter. we have a severe problem with plastic pollution in the oceans. we have more plastic in the ocean by weight, 36 times than the zoa plank. why do we need more of that? >> tucker: i agree. what is the solution. if you are not intending to send won to jail for giving someone a straw, but my question is, if you could get six months in prison for that, what if you give them a plastic spoon would that be life? >> this falls under the health and safety code which has that as the generic punishment across
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the board. california doesn't keep criminals in prison. we're not going to put waiters or shop owners in prison for distributing straws but -- >> tucker: i love that. >> we have a problem with pollution. >> tucker: california has a problem. i don't know if you've been to california recently. you live there. you may have noticed this. i put this on the screen. this is what california looks like in a lot of parts. these are homeless encampments they're all over the state. all over the state. the state does nothing. that's plastic, piles of it. garbage and your state, the one that cares about pollution does nothing to clean it up and punishes nobody for doing it. why are you going after waiters for giving out straws when you have this? >> that's unfair comparison. i have gone out and volunteered teams to clean up what you just
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showed. in santa cruz there's citizens cleaning up. there's glass and metal straws. you don't want to live next to a landfill. >> tucker: the state is becoming a landfill. i'm not for pollution and not for litter. i sense irony in the state of california which is filthy and covered with litter and from homeless people and there illegally punishing waiters giving straws when homeless people put trash everywhere. it is everywhere. >> it is a problem. those are again separate issues. there's civil liberty issues in teams of taking things away from homeless people. >> tucker: why not imprison a waiter who makes 9 dollars an
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hour for giving out a straw? why is the homeless guy protected and the waiter isn't? >> separate issues about civil liberties and penalties for committing. here's the issue. if you are going to pick on homeless people here. >> tucker: i'm not picking on then. >> they can't pay the fine. we have a problem of people that need help in the state of california. we have the laws that aren't implemented. los angeles just passed measure h and they're going to build housing. we're trying to address it. >> tucker: i may agree, i don't know, i just know as a frequent visitor to the state, it is covered in garbage. it is literally dirty. anyone been there recently. >> not covered in garbage. when there's homeless, we have an issue of garbage, but that's not the case. you go walk along the beaches, tucker, i know that. they're beautiful here.
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the way we address that is by addressing the source of the pollution and one is plastic straws. >> tucker: working people and you let the homeless -- >> responsible. it is not the employee that is held responsible. it is the establishment that pays the fine. >> tucker: they go to jail. why can't we punish the homeless? why? >> what happens is you can't find them. what are they going to pay a fine with? >> tucker: why not punish them in some way, like put them in jail? >> why not help them and get them out of their situation. the care that they need. let's get them in housing. that's how you address homelessness. >> tucker: you give homeless
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>> tucker: want to be a true intellectual, a man of the future, back cucold. apparently it can be positive
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for some couples. it is hard to know what the intent of the article is, exception to breakdown marriages for what they been all of history. there's a theme on the left which hates traditional family for what is not clear. joe, i've seen a lot of weird stuff on cnn even when i worked there, promoting adultery but then cuckoldry. >> a couple of weeks ago, we had a reporter lighting a bomb on the air. two weeks ago we were talking about various hosts and anchors and guests somehow saying a word that rhymes with spittle 165 times five times on the air. you're impressed they could say
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that word that many times. and then we get to cuckolding. and i had to look that up. i never heard of this. i looked it up. apparently it means to make another man a cuckold by having a relationship with his wife. when i went into journalism, i knew i would discuss this type of topic. to answer your question, i think i have a theory around this. cnn is struggling regarding ratings. they could barely get 800,000 people in the day and evening so you push the envelope. the problem is you're now appealing to the lowest common denominator. >> tucker: it is always in the same direction. it is towards things that are perverse and disgusting and creepy and weird and unhappy.
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the one thing they hate which is like an average family. they hate that. why is the left so angry at the family? i don't understand. i don't. >> why are they angry at the family? bob schieffer came up with this study. he said one in five journalists live in washington or l.a. and they're in a bubble, and they are in a group thing. the suburb and i have two kids. i think that is seen as something that is not cool and not within. >> tucker: given all of this, it is not that surprising that cnn is one of the most polarizing brands in america. that's not speculation or -- it is according to a new survey that shows there's a 66 percent favorability gap from the right and left. only trump hotels are more polarizing.
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what is your take on that? >> i would say cnn has been the target of the president more than any other news outlet. there's a good reason for it, if you look at every analysis that has been done since trump took office a year ago, the network has been overwhelmingly negative towards the administration. face of the resistance. if you watch it more than five minutes, you could see what i'm talking about. it continues to be suggestive. that insults people's intelligence. i think that's the issue here. they become polarizing because they're taking a stand and that's not the network that people grew up with starting in 1980. they now see a different network. and to use that term, it insults their intelligence. >> tucker: i think that's right. you know what you're getting. cnn is false.
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thank you. >> have a good weekend. >> tucker: thanks. saudi arabia had a botox scandal at a beauty pageant. we've been on top of the story. how do you know if a camel is hot or not? we have an answer for that about camels. ♪ ♪ sometimes the confidence to be spontaneous starts with financial stability. once i heard it i was shocked. i just thought, i have to go get it! ♪ ♪ it's our tree! ♪ ♪ see how a personalized financial strategy and access to j.p. morgan investment expertise can help you. chase. make more of what's yours.
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have you ever seen this kind of doping in the camel community? >> look, it is -- it is a bit unusual story, that's for sure to have botox put in their lips and heads to make them look nicer. it is not unusual, i suppose. it is big money and prestige. everybody wants to win. whatever it takes, i suppose. >> yeah. i want to be clear up front, given the environment in this country. i'm not making them objects. how do you tell from an attractive example to a less attractive camel? >> beauty is in the eye of beholder. configuration. and they have their lips drop down. one of the main things in the competition is how their lip drops down. their bottom lip. that's where the botox is put,
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to make that lip look forward and nicer. it is a group of people get together and say this is the criteria and this is what we're going to do. a wildlife, i suppose. >> tucker: is droopy camel lip preferable to a taught camel lip? >> [laughter]. it is a competition, i imagine that's something they look for. they look for big humps and everybody look happy. certainly the droopy lip is good. there's like a million dollar black saudi camel and it has the droopyest lip. >> tucker: can camels sense you're looking at their humps? do they know, do they feel
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uncomfortable if you stare at their humps? >> never thought of that to tell you the truth. >> tucker: okay. i think we may have lost our connection to mr. mchugh who we should note is one of the experts on camels of all kinds. single and double hump camels. though we're a mamaking light o -- of this story this is not light in the saudi area. tell us the best looking camel you've seen? >> we've had wild camels in australia. remarkable. great looking. we don't have beauty competitions like they do in the middle east. 20,000 camels turn up for a beauty competition. we could hold our own with their
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camels. >> tucker: i'm sure you can. thank you for joining us, great to see you. >> my pleasure. >> tucker: our week is over. see you monday. ack at 8:00 m. . . sean hannity is next. >> sean: welcome to "hannity. >> welcome to "hannity".ity. president trump is firing back to the "new york times" calling their reporting that he ordered the firing of special counsel of robert mueller as fake news. this is the biggest nonstory hyped by the liberal media which we know hates president trump. the reason they're spreading this news in their echo chamber is they desperately want to create a distraction. as i told you last night, they don't want you the american people to know about the biggest story in their life times that involved real evidence of wrongdoing and crimes that they have missed. there's a hug

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