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democratic response. see you back here tomorrow night. tucker carlson is next. don't go away. that's the "story". e >> ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." we have exclusive new information tonight about one of the most perplexing mysteries in washington. andrew mccabe the deputy director of the fbi announced today he is leaving his job. the most obvious question is why? was he pushed or did he decide to leave himself. mccabe's name has been in the news for years. in 2016 his wife took a large sum of money collected by one of hillary clinton's closest friend. this is significant because mccabe helped lead the investigation into hillary
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clinton's email server where she was exonerated before she was even interviewed. mccabe never recused himself from that investigation. was andrew mccabe fired? was that firing a result of information contained in the still famous but still mysterious house intelligence memo? the one nobody outside of congress has read? we decided to spend the day finding out all we could about that memo. we made a lot of calls and talked to people who read it. here's what we learned. the memo which is 4 pages long describes abuses of fisa which allows the u.s. government to spy on american citizens for the purpose of stopping foreign threats. spying is supposed to only happen in extraordinary circumstances and never for political reasons. that's why we had fisa to prevent that from happening. that law was abused.
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the memo describes how. quote: "shocking" said one person who read it. andrew mccabe is mentioned in the memo. a number of our sources confirmed. that is the reason he left the job today? we could not get a definitive answer. in the course of our reporting we learned something else. mccabe is the subject of one internal doj investigation and maybe more than 1. michael horowitz has been investigating political's motivated behavior at the bureau during the 2016 election. mccabe's resignation is likely tied to horowitz's work. among the subjects of fisa
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warrants is a person affiliated have the trump campaign. page was an active agent of a foreign government and a spy from vladimir putin. that claim looks absurd. page was never indicted for spying on anybody. if page is a russian agent, why is he not in hand cuffs? on the basis of that nutty claim, the obama justice department did surveillance on the trump campaign. the memo shows that when the doj wanted to spy on carter page they used information from the discredited steele dossier for their basis. one person said the fbi has been
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politicized for years. now it's being exposed for efforts to undermine a political candidate. we don't know if that's true. we have not seen the memo. neither has almost anybody commenting on it. but these are series allegations. they are more troubling than the underlying crime in watergate. you don't have to be a trump voter to understand the political use of intelligence and law enforcement agencies can destroy a country faster than anything else can. democrats don't care. how do we know? we checked. as of tonight 190 republicans in the house outside of the intel committee read that memo. outside of the committee, only about a dozen democrats have read it. what is interesting, amazing if you think about it, only a few democrats have bothered to read the memo they are all to a
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person against releasing it. it doesn't matter what they want. we hope we can make our own judgments to decide what is in that memo. it will likely be read into the congressional record early next year. dan is a former secret service agent and nypd officer. great to see you. my view from day 1, it's not about trump or obama. it's about the political use of our law enforcement agents. what we learned today about the memo suggests they have been politicized. >> where are the democrats? i thought this was the party of civil liberties. the consitutional republic can't exist if the 4th amendment is subject to the r or d in not fro -- in front of your name.
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to spy on someone in the united states in legal if you produce probable cause or is acting as a foreign act. none of that has been produced. not a single democrat or republican has produced any evidence that anyone on the trump team colluded with the russians to justify an investigation to spy into a candidate for president of the united states from the opposing party. this is devastating. >> tucker: what could be the rationale for not reading the memo? you have to go to a secure location, but you can read it. only a dozen democrats have done that. how can they explain that? >> the way sensitive information
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works, the systems are not inter-connected. when i worked in the secret service there is information on certain systems not connected to the cloud or the internet. it's in tucker's place, right? to read it you have to go to tucker's place. it's not a coincidence that nunes went back in march to the white house facility to read very specific intel they think is very likely will be in this memo? what am i saying? the information was briefed to barack obama. that means it was used by hillary clinton and all of the stuff in the dossier and all of this spying was being inserted into daily briefs by barack obama. why else would nunes have to go to the white house to read it? >> tucker: that's a great point. is it plausible that the obama
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administration officials really believed that poor carter page was a russian agent? working for vladimir putin? do you think they really believed that when they asked for the right to spy on him? >> i believe you can convince yourself of anything. >> tucker: nicely put and true. thank you. robert mueller's russian investigation found little evidence of the russian collusion that justified it. it exposed political bias. and some of donald trump's campaign are considering a lawsuit. michael, thank for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: the obvious question, serving in the trump campaign, did you see any behavior that suggested inappropriate contact with the russian government? >> no, i did not.
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what i told the house intelligence committee in july: i saw no russian colukas. -- lukas. -- collusion. i heard no talk of russia. we did not use russian dressing. this is a bogus investigation because hillary clinton needs an excuse for not going to morn and wisconsin. my family gets to pay for it. >> tucker: how much have had you to pay personally to respond to this? >> senate intelligence wants me for two years. and diane feinstein wants he. -- me. each hearing is $30,000. i will play legal fees that
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equal more than i make in a year. >> tucker: that's horrifying. >> it is horrifying. i have kids to raise. i live in fly over country. i live in buffalo. we don't make washington or new york money. this smear first and ask questions later of washington is destroying not just my family, but a lot of families. >> tucker: on totally ridiculous grounds of russian agents. that's absurd. apparently the memo says that the obama administration used allegations of collusion with russia to justify surveillance of the trump campaign. >> i listened to what you said leading up to this segment. i am disgusted but i expected it. i have been looking forward to this memo coming out. thank god for chairman man nunes. he's endured so much insults
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from the left trying to stop him in this effort. here's the bottom line, tucker. barack obama weaponized the department of justice and politized the fbi. i know a lot of rank-and-file fbi members. they are all embarrassed about this. the doj weaponized. we saw it go down with the irs as well. and how the weaponized department of justice went after congress and michael grimm and many others. it's on its way to happening for quite sometime. we are at the most politicized level of our doj and fbi in my lifetime. >> tucker: it sure seems that way. i don't know if you respond to this final question because you are the subject of a lot of attention. carter page was the pretext for
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a lot of this spying on the trump campaign. i only saw him during msnbc interviews. he doesn't look like a credible russian agent. did you see any inication he was speaking to the russians? anything that made you think he was a mole? >> no, we never saw carter page in trump tower. he was like papadopoulos. volunteers who would come in for one meeting a month. carter page, he is legit. knows about russia and people in russia know him. he was in business there. i see him in television. first i would palms up about the guy. now i feel bad for him. i hear about this memo and i feel angry for him. >> tucker: he said today to a producer at fox news that he williams -- welcomes the
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release of the memo. great to see you, thank you. the me too movement exposing some of the biggest advocates. hillary clinton's former campaign chair intervened to protect a harassar against women on her staff. you could not make that up if you tried. we have that next. in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. the name to remember. like you do sometimes, grandpa? and puffed... well, when you have copd, it can be hard to breathe. it can be hard to get air out, which can make it hard to get air in. so i talked to my doctor.
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being poisoned. one reason he liked to eat at mcdonald's. nobody knew he was coming and the food was premade. >> that's the one? >> you think so. >> tucker: hillary clinton was a big star at the one place he would be a big star the hyper-politicized grammys awards. ratings fell to record lows last night. it was fitting that hillary clinton would be celebrated by show business. she has one thing in common with hollywood. both appear to have a sexual harassment problem. patty doyle managed clinton's 2008 campaign. she said today she wanted the senior advisor fired for sexual harassment but hillary clinton would not have it. >> i interviewed all of the parties involved. i look at the evidence. i looked at email he sent and other documents. i came to the conclusion that
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there was sexual harassment involved. the young woman was very credible. my recommendation to the senator was to fire him. i was overruled. >> she over ruled you? >> i was overruled, yes. >> tucker: wow! hillary clinton praised women in a video that we will play. you can decide for yourself. >> i wanted to say thanks. thanks for your feminism and your actatism and i hope you keep up the really important good work. [laughing]. let me just say this is directed to the activist bitches. >> tucker: mark stein is on tonight. he joins us. hi, mark. >> hi, tucker, good to see you.
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>> tucker: what do you make of that video? >> that last one is pathetic. it's like watching some weird kind of golden girls on meet "meet the press" where you have old broads or betty white doing a rapping granny routine. it's pathethic the old broads talking dirty. it's ridiculous on the day that hillary clinton has been exposed yet again not as a champion of women, but an enabler of men who prey on women. >> tucker: that was the thing. it wasn't even the naughty words that bugged me. she has a salty mouth. that's one thing i like about her. what bothered me she describes herself as aanist.
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-- femmeanist. if there was a few in my office who harassed women, i would can him. >> you get the impression if you turn the blind eye to one predator for 40 years it's easy to turn a blind eye to all of them. that's what she shares with the people at the grammys awards. it's a class and power thing. that's the way it's always been. the women that bill clinton hit on whether they were interns or low-grade staffers, she regarded them as trash. she and guys like harvey weinstein agreed on. it's a problem for the democrats.
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a woman was on tv and believe all women and zero tolerance. wait a minute, what about hillary clinton? she is still worried that the clintons are powerful enough to take the tire iron to her in the back alley. it would be in the interest of the democrat party for them to tell hillary clinton, stop doing your catskills shtick on tv every 10 minutes and go to the islands for 3 years and give us a sporting chance. >> tucker: took 48 years to hear that phrase. it was worth the wait. >> tucker, politicians should not do comedy. if they do, they should do it once every 30 or 40 years. hillary clinton is doing every show.
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she should say i won't do it again the year 2057. she would be doing all us a favor. >> tucker: thank you. julie is the digital lifestyle director at "time." i think you are a feminist. >> i hear you are. >> compare to hillary clinton i am a feminist. i thought it was to be for equality for women and someone attacks women, you stand up for women. if those are the qualifications then i qualify. and she doesn't. i think maybe it's about abortion? if you are against abortion, you are not a feminist. >> you are missing the point. if these allegations are true and they were brought to hillary clinton and she did have not him removed from the campaign,
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that's not something they can defend. that's disappointing. >> tucker: why is it not appalling? why is it not disgusting? her female campaign manager said i told her fire this guy. he is hasling this woman and hillary said no. that's like wrong? >> it is wrong. i believe she should have fired this man. people are facing repurcussions for their actions and losing jobs in the huge wave of sexual harassment that we are learning about. the president has been accused of many women of behavior like this. >> tucker: are right. he said i am not a feminist. that didn't give him a pass but he's not a hypocrite. hillary clinton put up with her husband who was accused of rape,
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why does she get to call herself a feminist? i am confused. >> you want to call yourself a feminist in comparison to hillary clinton, did you fight for the paycheck act? >> [overlapping talking]. >> tucker: i treat actual living women well and she doesn't. >> i don't know that's true. this was an error and a black mark on her record. it's disappointing. >> [overlapping talking]. e >> tucker: she wasn't in congress very long. it was not a lifetime. she was a in congress for a term and a half. she in a number of different instances, she attacks women's who try to report sexual harassment by her husband. she made excuses for a guy accused of rape. if i did that, i would expect to
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be attacked and she is a feminist hero. what is the line. what can't you do if you are hillary? >> she has been attacked for the way she behaved in this situation during her campaign. it's upsetting and disappointing she didn't have this person immediately removed from her campaign. there are questions about the way she act towards her husband's accusers. that didn't erase a lifetime of service for women with equal pay and health care. >> tucker: would you say ted kennedy who killed a woman was he a feminist? >> i don't know they could comment on ted kennedy. >> tucker: when died he was called a champion of women. there are good parts about ted kennedy. he killed a woman literally. no dispute about that and lied about it. how did he get to be a feminist?
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>> i am not calling him a feminist. i am calling a hillary clinton feminist. >> tucker: call me one too. >> you will have to prove that to me. >> tucker: okay. thank you very much for joining us. the trump administration willing to provide a path to citizenship for dreamers. millions of them. why are progressives shrieking and calling it racist? ♪
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>> tucker: the white house proposed immigration deal gives a major concession to democrats for daca members and a million other people. instead of being happy about getting what they asked for democrats are rejecting it. they claim the deal demands increased border security to hold dreamers hostage and a form of white supremacy. nancy pelosi called this rachel. is it? thanks for coming on. >> absolutely. good to be here. >> tucker: we talked about immigration a lot with.
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the year i was born 1969, the united states had 20022 million people. it's now more than 60% increase. threes later even hire. million people. it's now more than 60% increase. threes later even hire.2 millio people. it's now more than 60% increase. threes later even hire. all of that is due to immigration. my question to you is: what is the right number? immigration shapes the number of people who are here. it drives it. how many people should live in this country? >> that's an interesting question. i have not thought through that. i feel like it's one worth discussing and trying to figure out what our policy should be with regard to growth. >> tucker: isn't that the central question?
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population define everything in a country. the cost of infrastructure and schools and health care is connected to population. it changes the country. why have you not thought about that? >> well, i guess, what i am interested in right now is a much smaller group of people. a narrow issue which is the dreamers. and making sure that they have a pathway to citizenship here in the u.s. you think in big ways and i try to be narrower. >> tucker: because it changed the country i grew up in some ways for better and some ways for worse. crowding is bad. beijing is a disaster. density matters. my question: if you are for the dreamers, then you must be happy with this proposal from the white house
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that gives them amnesty? we believed all the left wanted was amnesty. now the democrats are saying all of their relatives have to come here too and get public services. how does that work? >> i don't think anybody is arguing for all their relatives for public services. there is an interesting bill out there. very bipartisan from congressman herd, a republican and from a congressman a democrat. 52 co-sponsors. does what we need to do which is focus on the dreamers to have a pathway to citizenship and border security. that seems like a fair trade. what the trump administration is trying to do is really driven by steven miller who seems to be
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the puppet master is throw in the kitchen sink. [overlapping talking]. >> tucker: hold on. wait, wait. spare me. let me ask you a serious question. i hear from people including you it's in america's economic interest to let these people in. the majority are from mexico. if that's true, if a lot of low-wage labor makes a country rich, why isn't mexico rich? >> are we talking about the dreamers? >> tucker: specifically about the dreamers but you could apply the same question to a million people we admit every year for the sake of giving employers lower wages. why aren't the countries from which they are coming rich if low wage labor is the key to prosperity?
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>> i don't know about your family. let's look at most american families and how they got here through immigration. which is that people come to the united states because of what it stays on the stoat -- statue of liberty. they are coming for economic opportunities. this is how the irish,iitalians and chinese came. >> tucker: i am just asking a simple question. how will we benefit economically from continued low-wage immigration? i am not asking if it's morally grate. -- great. i never get an answer. >> immigration significantly benefits the u.s. economy.
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>> tucker: that's a lie. you should not have say that if it's not true. >> let's take one issue. >> tucker: we are almost out of time. >> social security trust fund relies on immigrants to subsidize the people who are retiring. i would never lie to you. >> tucker: thanks for coming on. >> of course. >> tucker: state of the union doesn't happen until tomorrow but some students are sure they already saw the state of the union speech and they hated it. >> one of the craziest moments when he charted a global chant. >> that's ridiculous. >> it's absolutely crazy. >> he started a chant. he is big on those.
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>> tucker: president trump's state of the union address? wait it hasn't happened yet. it's tomorrow. kids at nyu said they had seen the speech and they hateed it. >> some people said it's the most racist state of the union? >> i could want bring myself to watch it. >> one of the craziest moment when he start eed a chant. >> people on social media said he used it as a campaign event. >> it's crazy >> the fact he started a chant. >> do you think he will follow-through with the things he promised last night? >> i don't know. we will see. >> tucker: a couple of explanations for this possibly. either students at our country
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most elite schools are totally fool of it or invented time travel and watched speeches early. which is more likely? we will leave that to you. >> ♪ >> ♪ >> tucker: new york university is one of the most liberal schools in america and maybe the world. at least one person is continuing to refuse to conform. it made life hard for him. he is a professor of global liberal studies. michael, he is suing the school accusing them of launching a harassment campaign against him. he joins us now. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: tell us what you did to earn the ire of your colleagues? >> i started an anonymous
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twitter account and tweeted criticisms of idealogy on campus. shutting down speakers and so forth. i started tweeting. all hell broke loose. >> tucker: what things did you tweet? threaten anyone with violence? >> no, not all. i made criticisms about what was across the country. as the year went, i was indicated about what took place. as the campus craziness escalated and you had riots by the time berkeley happened. i was making critiques of an institutional adoption and the mechanisms to enforce it.
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i mentioned no groups. no identities at all. i was immediately within two days of an interview appearing, i was called into the dean's office. i was told that the interview had nothing to do with my twitter account or the publicity i was receiving. yet, immediately it went to that topic. i was told that people were concerned about my mental will being. [laughing]. >> tucker: because you disagreed with them? >> i must be crazy because i disagreed with them. i was put on paid leave and strongly encouraged to take a paid of leave absence and leave campus immediately. a committee calling themselves the diversity equity and inclusion group denounced me in a double-speak condemnation where they said i was guilty for the structure of my thinking.
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i had the wrong kinds of thoughts. >> tucker: the inclusion committee excluded you? >> that's they did. that's why i call them the exclusion group. >> tucker: [laughing]. there are so many questions here. did any colleagues approach you and say you are telling some truth here? >> no. either they are true believers or cowered. it's a chilling effect on campuses. can't voice disagreement with some policies without being called a racist, a sexist or satan as he was called. >> tucker: how you can think clearly if conformity is required? >> you can't think. this is against the mission of the university. that's what i was complaining well. >> tucker: if these people had power, a lot of people would
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die. what is your response to them now? >> my response now is after i got back from the leave, i was assailed in a series of blistering emails and attacked for nothing. i never spoke to any of these people by name or directly at all. they started to attack me. calling me racist and sexist and satan. short pants, fragile white male. i was pelted with sexist and racist epitaths. >> tucker: it's one thing to stand up and take a position that people disagree with. to take a position against everyone you work around takes courage. i admire that. good luck. >> thank you very much, tucker. i appreciate it. >> tucker: thanks. >> tucker: a gun control group is using numbers on school
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school bus window but those are not school shootings. a radio show host and spokeswoman for the nra joins us. first, they said there were 11 school shootings. how many have there been? >> thank you very much for having me. how they define a school shooting. they say this is how the fbi describes mass shooting, but the fbi doesn't use the phrase mass shooting. they use mass murder or mass killing. even then they have a numerical value. the fbi doesn't consider something to be a mass murder unless you look at 4 or more individuals having been killed and doesn't include the perpetrator who was killing
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other people. the numbers pushed by every town which has done this over and over again for year after year, that's in no way accurate. there have been school shootings this year. it's awful. they are rare. unlike what you hear repeated in the media and in headlines. they are rare. they do not occur often but they get a lot of media coverage because it's a scary thing. this is what this group wants to do: exploit that and bank on that as a way to inspire fear in everyone so they can then push a policy position and fund raise off of that particular fear mongering. it's not accurate what they have done. i want to note as well. you mentioned the other media outlets that repeated. in every town, they have done this before.
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steve wrote a fantastic article about the list they put out. they have done this before. they compiled a list of all of these school shootings. tucker, you mentioned they inclued incident that were bad but it's not a mass killing. a bee-bee gun hit a bus window. in 2013 i went through the list and included it in my first gun. they included gang activity that was not on school property was near a school. they included an argument between two grown men, it happened in a school parking lot. one shot the other. bad but that's not a mass killing. >> tucker: of course. none of it is good, but you should not lie about it. facts matter. i appreciate that you assembled those fax. thank you. -- facts.
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this week all dell pcs are up to twenty five percent off! save even more when you purchase a dell monitor. and make sure you protect your investment. office depot® officemax. officedepot.com >> tucker: a teacher in california told kids that members of the u.s. miltary are little better than human garbage. he is supposed to teach history. his lessons he thought would be enhanced by denouncing the miltary. watch this. >> why would anyone sign up for the miltary? because you have no other options. you didn't take care of business and your parents does love you enough to push you.
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>> tucker: high-level thinkers. he is not in that category. he is also a city councilman. thanks for watching. here's sean. >> sean: thanks. "hannity" is broadcasting from the sewer washington, d.c. major breaking news. andrew mccabe is out at the fbi. and fox news is now being told he was removed from that post. sarah carter is here with breaking news. sources telling her that mccabe's resignation is just the beginning. this is huge. the house intelligence committee voted to pub
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