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>> sean: blinded migraines? every time i open my mouth i kill >> sean: every time i open my mouth a cocaptain's? blinding migraines?w. wow by this is tough on my ego. but you say nice things about laura ingraham. 877-225-8587. let not your heart be troubled. 11:00 tomorrow night. hello,ed laura ingraham. thanks for coming up in the cold and hang out with us here in d.c. you were in the comfort of the studio. throw you right off that. i wouldn't be on that roof if i were you. if you look great in that shot, very flattering. >> sean: thank you very much. i appreciate your kind words. how come you got all the good hotline calls and i don't get any? that's so unfair. it's my hotline! speeone, all you need is a personality transplant and you will be totally fine. >> sean: and something to say before you go, ready? goodbye. >> laura: thanks a lot. welcome to "the ingraham angle" from washington.
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it's too cold on the roof for me. the heaters don't work. willful blindness to trump's triumphs and how the fbi and doj can stop the bleeding. that's the focus of tonight angle. think about how reporters would handle things under this hypothetical. hillary clinton, not donald trump, won the presidency in 2016. i realize that's terrifying to contemplate, but bear with me for just a second. imagine that bill is too old to chase intern so she isn't distracted by any new scandals, and somehow during her first year in office, hillary oversees a stock market rocketing up, there's a big drop in unemployment, including among minority workers, and imagine this, imagine consumer confidence, business investment, even wages in certain sectors, all up. imagine hillary announcing that dozens of american run businesses are bringing jobs back to the united states. they are doling out thousand
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dollars, $2,000 bonuses to thousands and thousands of employees. and let's just say that republican leaders respond to this news by calling that money crumbs, and it's all just a gimmick. meanwhile, imagine president clinton renegotiating important trade deals and taking unilateral action to level the playing field for american manufacturers and workers. by the way, i actually remember when both hillary and barack obama were running for president in 2008 and back then they both sounded a lot more like trump than trudeau on nafta. >> nafta is gone in six months. >> we will opt out of nafta unless we renegotiated. >> i think senator clinton's answer on this one is right. if i think we should use the hammer of potential opt out. >> laura: does anyone even remember that? i do. imagine hillary clinton
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targeting illegal immigrant terminals, felons, who are endangering their mostly hispanic neighborhoods. imagine if, thanks to the military planning under commander in chief clinton we had smashed isis and driven them out of syria. we all know on the economy especially with the press and the democrats would be saying, and it wouldn't sound like this. >> the american people are deeply concerned about the decline of the american middle class. >> republicans need to look in the mirror, think about the damage that they are causing to the middle class, our economy. >> president trump consistently points to one highlight, a strong economy. it was a good year, but maybe not as good as president trump wants you to think. >> laura: chuck, amazing. not that liberals care. they not only don't give trump credit for his policies or any rework to train dealers or moves on real adulation, there are
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actually some even trying to give obama credit for all of 2017s good economic news. >> he thinks it started from the day he became president when in fact he inherited good conditions. >> i thought barack obama did turn around the economy to bring it back from the precipice with tough action. >> mr. trump inherited an economy that was in full recovery for blacks and whites from president obama. now he's taking credit for picking up somebody at the end of a trip that somebody else broke the trip. >> laura: somebody else drove the trip. i don't even know what he's talking about. to add insult to injury, even while business leaders do credit trump's tax cut with all the deregulation, what's the big business story of today? here it is. a new reuters poll claiming that just 2% of americans have gotten a raise, a bonus or other
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benefits from trump's tax cuts. okay, kids, here's a lesson from laura. you usually get a benefit from a tax cut when you pay your taxes. everyone is going to benefit except for upper income earners. hello? and from the trump tax plan, they will see more money in their pockets come april when most people pay their taxes. most people don't pay quarterly. we will see if at that point reuters runs another poll just to see if people are happier or benefiting. a far more telling survey from the national association of business economics finds that company say sales and profits rose at the end of last year and nearly half of the respondents say they are now paying more in wages and in salaries to their employees. this is news that we've been waiting for and that will benefit workers long term. it's about time people had a
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raise. i promise you, if hillary clinton had had this record, the praise would be deafening on the eve of her state of the union. meanwhile, the media spent the day blaming the real president for the voluntary resignation of fbi deputy director andrew mccabe. >> the president play this very active, public role in pressuring the justice department to get rid of mccabe. >> so far the white house is saying the president was not involved in this, was not pushed at all. it seems hard to believe that. >> this is yet another instance of the president bullying and pressuring law enforcement agencies he's concerned about investigating him. >> if anybody thinks in the justice department -- >> laura: media bias at nbc, that's my question. the only problem with that lovely scenario they painted, there's no evidence to indicate that trump is responsible for the resignation. do we really want to deputy director of the fbi who was so
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afraid that he has to resign if he is totally in the right? of course we don't. white house spokeswoman sarah huckabee sanders said this. >> can you say definitively that the president did not play a role in him stepping down? >> yes. >> laura: are more likely theory, i think, is that mccabe himself, along with his previous boss, jim comey, are actually to blame for this early retirement. given mccabe, he and his wife to hillary's best friend terry mcauliffe, he shouldn't have been within 100 yards of either the hillary email or the trump-russia investigation. not with that close tie. his wife received a $500,000 donation from terry mcauliffe pac from her political campaign. given this, he should have removed himself or removed
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nomadic recused himself from both probes. there was a "new york times" story tonight suggesting that fbi director christopher wray was concerned about the findings of a forthcoming government investigation into the fbi and into mccabe's conduct. that's the inspector general's report. the time source said that the director and mccabe had a frank conversation about that report and apparently a demotion was discussed for mccabe. whatever the explanation for his departure, i say this, it's about time. there's a larger point being lost in the mccabe blame game. the president is actually trying to restore confidence and law enforcement institutions that i think for a long time have been used as political instruments. there are a lot of great rank-and-file people, at the at the overwhelming majority. but when the leadership appears to have a political ax to grind, nobody is served by that. it's time to cleanse the upper tiers of the justice department and the fbi of all partisanship.
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it's critical. sessions' deputy attorney general rod rosenstein may be the next one on the chopping block. he reportedly reviewed and approved that fisa application to surveilled the trump campaign, and we understand it looks like it was based on that phony clinton-funded russian dossier. of course the anti-trump artisan jeannie reid and andrew weissmann should be immediately terminated from the investigation as well before any more damage is done to both the credibility of the fbi and the justice department. and that's the ankle. joining us now for a reaction from minneapolis is john, a former national spokesperson for the fbi and here in washington is joe, a former u.s. attorney for washington, d.c. joe, your reaction to the
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mccabe departure, and the media from the moment the story broke on all the other channels and on nbc, cbs, it was trump to blame? >> to blame is mccabe and to blame is comey and anybody else at the senior levels of the fbi. this is quite a disgrace for the for the bureau. as someone who worked with the bureau, i'm truly saddened by the fall from grace for everybody there. make no mistake about it, this was a plot to exonerate hillary clinton illegally and then if she lost the election, to frame donald trump with a legal crime. this was the worst period in the history of the bureau, much worse than the late hoover period when they were spying on domestic groups. this is the weaponization of the fbi for political purposes by all the people at the upper echelon of the bureau. i think it's really time for people in the other party who
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seem to make nothing but excuses for the senior people at the bureau and the department of justice, may i say, to kind of wake up and see that what's coming now is the federal grand jury and it's not going to be pretty. >> laura: you represented the bureau in the public domain and you are the spokesperson for the bureau. your reaction to today's developments in the effort to blame donald trump for the early retirement of the deputy director? >> they'd been talking for some time that he was looking to go on terminal leave and exit the bureau. i think that was hastened as a result of the director just yesterday going to the hill, looking at the information that went into this dossier. but i will tell you, no president, whether it's trump, obama or anyone else, tells the fbi which i do. the fbi is independent. they are there for the people. to think for a minute that a sitting president would be able to push out a deputy director, that goes against everything the fbi has stood for for the past
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hundred nine years. >> laura: did you speak to mccabe a few weeks ago? >> i happen to be at headquarters a few weeks ago and chatted with him briefly. >> laura: what did he say? >> we didn't talk about him possibly leaving. at that time he was in the office while the director was out on other business so essentially he's the man in charge. it seemed to be business as usual. however, everybody in the bureau knew that mccabe's days would be running short because of the history. if it was time for the bureau to move on with a clean slate and get back to the work that the fbi does. >> laura: joe, he wanted to leave in the spring. the ig report is coming out in the spring. but it's a wild coincidence, if indeed the fbi director strolls up to capitol hill on sunday, reads this very short report,
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four pages, and then it just so happens that monday, mccabe is like you know something, i would rather go skiing in breckenridge for the next two weeks. i'm not going to be doing this work any longer. >> according to "the new york times" in the latest publications, christopher wray was shocked on sunday when he read the four pages. first of all, if that's the case, where has he been since he was sworn in? there is enough evidence on the public record. with the information from the inspector general and from the hill with the legal release of documents that it was clear that mr. mccabe and others had engaged in highly improper, probably illegal activity in the fisa court stuff along with the dossier from christopher steele. first of all, mccabe should have been gone a long time ago and so should strzok and page and all the people involved in this. this is a dark moment for the fbi.
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it's going to take a lot for them to recover from this. >> laura: we had jim comey tweeting after the mccabe news came out. he's tweeting quite a bit. very poetic. he sat special agent andrew mccabe stood tall over the last eight months. he always makes height references, i wonder why. one small people were trying to tear down an institution will depend on. he served with distinction for two decades, i wish andy well. i also wish continued strength for the rest of the fbi. america needs you. john, what you make of the comey tweets? small people, tall people. he's 6'8", by the way. >> mccabe is part of comey's legacy. andrew mccabe did a lot of good things in the bureau during his career, but it doesn't matter. when you were doing something wrong, that is the time that it has to be stopped immediately. i had some very good agents that
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made an unfortunate mistake along the way. >> laura: he was the guy to whom peter strzok reported, correct? >> absolutely. >> laura: mccabe could have, joe, we're almost out of time, mccabe could have used one of the regular field office set of investigators to do both the clinton and the trump investigation. perfection also could run this thing and run it right. he chose to put together this team, correct? kind of an unfortunate mistake. >> comey was a dirty cop and he dirtied up everybody else around him. >> laura: we also have a huge development, by the way in the rush or pro. a house committee of course has begun investigating the investigators. up next, we will talk to a congressman who voted tonight to publicly release that memo that could spell big trouble for both the fbi and doj. the fbi anhow do you win at business? stay at la quinta. where we're changing with stylish make-overs. then at your next meeting,
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>> laura: huge news tenet from the house until committee, which voted this evening to publicly release that bombshell, we hope it's a bombshell, fisa memo. alleging serious surveillance abuse by top officials at doj and the fbi. president trump has five days to decide whether he has any objections to releasing the classified memo.
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adam schiff, the top ranking democrat on the committee is wasting no time expressing his outrage. >> today this committee voted to put the president's personal interests, perhaps their own political interests above the national interests. >> laura: we also learned tonight that the intel committee has opened an investigation into the doj and the fbi. joining us now to discuss these developers, congressman chris stewart, a member of the intel committee from utah. great to see you, when can we expect this memo to be released? >> i would love it release to make. >> laura: it's in your pocket, i want that memo. pull it out, let's go. >> hopefully soon. it's important for the american people to see it. i hope he doesn't. >> laura: this is what mark walker, a republican from north carolina, said earlier today. let's watch. >> if your audience or if somebody is believing that this is the end all smoking gun, it isn't. does it name names?
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does it prevent some very intriguing facts that makes you ask even more questions to mike to make the case that this is the most shocking document in the history of mankind, i believe that's a little hyperbole. >> laura: are you guys engaged in hyperbole? >> i can tell you i haven't been. some people have and we have actually cautioned against that. this is an important document. it's very important for the american people. the process. i listen to mr. schiff and my head just wants to explode. my father was an air force pilot. to accuse us of saying we would endanger national security is just silliness. this memo doesn't do that. what it does do is ask these questions, was the fbi fair? for the accurate? we've been making accusations, serious accusations, they've been called traders, treasonous. for more than a year now. did the fbi make those kinds of
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accusations against innocent people with laughable evidence? that's the kind of think this memo will address. >> laura: congressman gates from florida has been a frequent guest on the show. to listen to congressman gates, this is just got barn burner of a memo. i think people have gotten your hopes up that this guy's going to go and end this person will lose his job and maybe this one will go to jail. i always find that republicans tend to, sorry, be bad storytellers. i'm worried about that, as our other congressmen to whom i've spoken in the last 48 hours. >> we kind of get, try to get people to temper their language. i can't speak for what everyone has said, but this memo is very factual. it's not emotional. it doesn't draw any conclusions, it just lays out the facts and let you draw the conclusions. >> laura: nancy pelosi spoke about an hour ago and i know you haven't seen it, so this is a gift for you, let's watch. >> they have made up a memo if that isn't even true, and they are lying to the american people. >> what are you going to do about it?
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>> the republican party, as i said, has crossed over to cover up. they are deadly afraid of the russia investigation. >> the fbi recently's selected by president trump, he got the memo. he could have, and said -- >> with due respect, you don't know what you're talking about. >> laura: she really gave it to chris cuomo. as she read it? >> i don't know. >> laura: i want to know. >> we had members of the department of justice over the weekend saying was reckless to release this memo when they had not read it. they didn't know what was in it. they were making accusations that they have no knowledge of. >> laura: where his sessions in all of this? what has he said? he is the head of the justice department in which the fbi resides. is he just not going to comment because russia? i recuse myself to all things related to russia, which i still don't understand.
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>> i think is one of the most decent, honorable men. >> i would say he has recused himself from one of the most important -- >> laura: you can't recuse yourself if you're going to be attorney general. >> i said it was you had not done that because you have i think you have an obligation to step aside and let the department to be led by someone who will not step aside. >> laura: you are saying sessions can't leave this department? >> i've set it in the past, it's unfair for him, it's unfair for what we are trying to accomplish. >> laura: are there other people who are agreeing with you other than the few with quota publicly? >> i think there are a few. >> laura: i love jeff sessions. for some reason, i'm concerned about this. great on immigration, good on some of the enforcement. gang stuff. frankly, the marijuana enforcement, which i think is good to give discretion to the field officers. this investigation, i'm sorry, was a fraud from the beginning. rod rosenstein wet himself when he went over to the hill and is
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worried about answering questions. that just doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. >> these accusations in his testimony, that's just nuts. he was answering the question as he understood it. but unfortunately this city she was good people sometimes. >> laura: that's why you can't be recusing yourself and naming rod rosenstein as her deputy. we look forward to the release, and if you can give it to me before the end of the hour i would appreciate it. as congress struggles to find an immigration solution, that's a big deal for you guys, there's already a great plan in the senate that would address all the pressing problems, really? one of the authors of that bill, senator david perdue joins us with the details next. for singing definitely dry mouth has been a problem for me. i'm also on a lot of medications that dry my mouth. i just drank tons of water all the time. it was never enough. i wasn't sure i was going to be able to continue singing. i saw my dentist.
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protections expired for about 800,000 of the so-called dreamers. democrats rejected president trump's offer last week of amnesty for nearly 2 million illegal immigrants in exchange for border security and illegal immigration cuts. but another plan exists that should be put on the table. republican senator david perdue is one of the men behind it. he joins us now with more. senator, always great to see you. i ran into you and a new event on saturday and i said you better come on the show, and here you are, so thank you. you and tom cotton in my view came up with an original idea that kind of in some ways mirrors what was going on in the hill with goodlatte and mike mccall. it was focused on the 800,000 daca people who are not kids, they are adults now for the most part. you did the chain migration, end of that, and a visa lottery. three or afforded later suddenly it's at 1.8 million. how did you go from 800 to 1.8
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and was that thought process because you needed to pick up a few people? >> it's great to see you. a year ago you had tom cotton and myself on here and we started then with a very conservative approach of this to solve the legal immigration problem once and for all. we warned about the diversity lottery and we said we needed an end to chain migration. what we've done there, the president has laid out, i believe, a framework that is ingenious, because we will find out if people are really serious about solving this immigration problem on both sides. i think we have the framework to actually get it done. >> laura: my listeners are livid. i don't mess on their show for the last three or four days and when did he campaign on this? my point is that if you want cuts in legal immigration, which is the big number, 1 million green cards every year, most of those are based not on merit but on extended family ties, aunts, uncles, cousins twice removed. i'm not an amnesty person.
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i think it hurts people's feelings and sensibilities who have been waiting in line for a long time. what you say to those americans, americans were upset and the people waiting in line? >> the president has really laid out he wants an end to daca. what that means is he wants to provide -- they're not going to get in front of anybody, but what he is also done is given the conservatives of his party what he promised he would do, a safe and secure border with the wall. he wants to end chain migration, the most insidious part of this. it's what's caused us to be here. and we know we have a security issue with the diversity lotter lottery. >> laura: chain migration, i got to play this for you, kristen gillibrand, she's already kicking off her campaign practically, her views on chain migration. >> i think a lot of president trump's rhetoric is racist, and let's be very clear, when someone uses the phrase "chain migration," it is intentional trying to demonize
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families, literally trying to demonize families and make it a racist slur. >> it's very interesting. they were out of touch when they tried to shut the government down. the shimmer shutdown. the idea, the term chain migration was termed by lyndon b. johnson, i think he was a democrat. bill clinton also called for an end when he and barbara jordan wanted to go to a merit based system like canada and australia. this is nothing more than democrats revealing how far out of touch they are. two-thirds wants to entry migration and the lottery fix the daca problem and build that wall. >> laura: she kept saying chained migration. she kept changing the term. >> totally. >> laura: some of the polls america the one migration. 68% oppose the visa lottery. 81% want legal immigration reduced. that's always the case whether
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it's the gallup poll or the harvard harris poll that just came out. 61% think border security is inadequate. steve king was on my show on friday, he said this. >> the numbers are just stunning. it to see that president trump has proposed 1.8 million amnesty for illegals. i think this will demoralize so very many of his supporters and how do we get back now to a place where we need to be with this? >> the answer is very simple. keep our eyes focused on the prize. the prize is the problems that got us focused here in the first place. chain migration on the lottery. >> laura: no more amnesty after this? this will be the last? >> this is the idea, to end the problem in the first place. >> laura: will they make you go up to 3 million, 4 million, i will say 5 million? >> if we do nothing it will be 7 million or more. this is an opportunity to stop
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this once and for all. >> laura: you think you will get enough democrats to support this? >> we will find out if they are really serious about solving the daca problem. >> laura: they don't want to give you a win on daca. they don't. >> we will find out. >> laura: a stunning new example and the contrast of the media's treatment of melania trump and michelle obama. trump and michelle obama. you don't want to ooooooh snap!! every truck guy has their own way of conveying powerful. yeeaaahhh boy. kind of looks like a monster coming to eat ya. holy smokes. that is awesome. strong. you got the basic, and you got the beefy. i just think it looks mean. incredible. no way. start your year off strong a new chevy truck. get a total value of over $9,600 on this silverado all star when you finance with gm financial. find new roads at your local chevy dealer. it takes a lot of work to run this business. but i really love it. i'm on the move all day long... and sometimes,
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>> laura: check this out, the media have bombarded us with stories suggesting that first lady melania trump is acting like a woman scorned. cnn, for instance, turned it into melania-gate and declared the first lady has gone awol. >> these past couple weeks she's been laying low. >> i would think so, because of course there have been some cringe-inducing stories in the first few weeks of this year. >> we can only look at those clues like last saturday when she posted on twitter, the anniversary of the inauguration with herself and a military escort from that date, not her husband. no mention of her husband. >> she was scheduled to travel with the president but canceled last minute. yesterday she left west palm beach, florida, and was back on the plane today. we don't know the reason for the trip. >> mott moving to the white house immediately was unprecedented. five months after he moved and she moved in. of course the fact that they have separate bedrooms. >> laura: oh, my god, .
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my next guest believes melania trump, get this, actually despises her husband. that's what sarah wrote an article on the website called nylon. she wrote that the day. she joins us now from philly. okay, sarah, you look like a very young woman, very accomplished. you are a writer, you've written all sorts of stuff out there for various publications. how is it being a feminist for you to question another woman's lifestyle choices, whatever they are, whatever she decides to be. why are you passing judgment on them and questioning them? >> i don't think i'm judging her life choices. if to be fair, i guess i would judge a woman who would choose to marry donald trump. he is truly a disgusting human being. i think that's like a nonpartisan issue. >> laura: that's not judging at all. >> that donald trump is disgusting?
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i think it's pretty much back at this point. >> laura: looked at our camera, so our listeners get the full sarah here. go ahead. >> i think donald trump is disgusting. i would say that is a fact. my story was more about how it wouldn't be surprising if a person married to donald trump was disgusted by him. i personally can't imagine a worse person being married to the donald trump. she's miserable. >> laura: let me get this straight, you are a reporter and you are writing about melania trump as if she's a political actor here and you are saying but that's a fact. use that donald trump is disgusting, that's a fact. you are a writer, so you know when you use the word disgusting, that's a subjective statement. it is not a fact. it is a fact that he's president of united states. it is not a fact that he is disgusting. you and your liberal friends could sit around talking about how awful the country is under donald trump. i grant you that, you think that. but how are you to judge another
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woman's choice about her relationship, and did you do the same, for instance, when hillary clinton stood by her man, when hillary clinton decided to fire or not fire someone who would reportedly sexually harassed someone on her campaign staff. we are making judgments about that or you reserve it for melania trump because you think her husband is disgusting? >> i wasn't covering the clintons, i was too young for that. with hillary, of course i would criticize her for doing that. >> laura: was her husband discussing? >> who, bill clinton? you just continuing to be like, what about these democrats, is not really an argument. you should be able to speak critically about the trump administration. your whole segment has just been talking about democrats and what they are covering. >> laura: what i'm trying to do, sarah, -- it's fine, you are a liberal and you don't like trump. that's fine. but to write something about a woman's decision to travel to
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davo's are not travel, you make this wild leap of logic without any factual underpinning that i know of, and you carry yourself, it's a fact. what's the fact? with the evidence? >> is my opinion that he's gross and i can imagine being married to him. >> laura: i don't think anyone cares whether you want to marry him or not. he didn't ask you to marry him. >> you clearly care about my opinion of him because i'm on your show right now. >> laura: i'm trying to understand how a woman like you who carries herself off as a feminist tries to get in the mind of another woman. debbie that's her decision. it's her decision to believe what she wants to believe and live the life that she wants to live. maybe she thinks it's the best thing for the country. maybe she is wildly them up with her husband, but like all of us, are disappointed like people at various times. maybe you have the whole thing wrong. but as a woman and as a feminist, why are you questioning other women's choices? are you pro-choice?
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>> good one. being a feminist does not mean that you are not critical of women. you know that that's not what it means. you know it means equality for all genders. it's exactly what feminist means. it does not mean that i have to be nice to every woman that i meet. she is complicit in an administration that has been abhorrent as of now. racism has gone gump, anti-semitism has gone up. she is complicit in a pretty gross administration. the article was about my opinion. i think is disgusting. i can imagine being married to him at all the pictures we see her swatting his hand away are not evidence to the contrary. it kind of looks like she's disgusted by him. that's what my story was about. >> laura: that's fascinating. >> if they are happy, good, i hope she is happy. >> laura: i'm sure you do. sherry hope she's happy. did you comment about michelle obama spending an extra
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three weeks in hawaii after that unfortunate deal with the selfie at the nelson mandela funeral? could you write about that or think about that? i guess two and a half weeks, something like that after that little episode. you don't member that? >> i don't remember -- $130,000 in hush money to a former star. >> laura: i guess that might pass as logic for your generation. you want to remember what you want to remember. >> michelle would have avoided in for a couple of days, you never know. >> laura: i have one question, are you going to give back the tax cut that you get because of this horrible president? are you going to give it back to the treasury to form some liberal program? >> i don't think it's too much for america to ask a decent man
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>> laura: you just knew that last night's grammys would have more anti-trump politics and #metoo moments. the public responded by tuning out in record numbers. somehow it did not strike organizers as hypocritical to feature a cameo by hillary clinton, arguably the worst enabler of a sexual abuse or that we've ever seen in public life. of course, she -- the narrator of the recent anti-trump book. >> he had a long time fear of being poisoned. one reason why he likes to eat at mcdonald's. nobody knew what was coming and the food was safely premade. >> that's the one. with the grammys in the bag? >> in the bag. >> laura: she looked great there. this is a woman, by the way, that the grammys lionized. just like week we learned that
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hillary protected a campaign aide, or face consulting, and 2008 who was accused of sexually harassing a female staffer. some on her senior staff wanted him fired. >> there was sexual harassment involved, the young woman was very credible. my recommendation to the senator was to fire him. i was overruled. >> she overruled to personally? >> i was overruled, yes. >> laura: let's examine this breathtaking double standard with monica crowley in new york, senior fellow at the london center for policy research. and michelle from the center for american progress. michelle, take it away. it's the #metoo moment at the grammys and hillary clinton wouldn't fire a sexual harassment. >> i think without question hillary has been an advocate for women and girls her entire career. i actually thought that the grammys in the moment was a
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moment of levity, that it was funny. i thought she looked great, and i think she had a great time. i think if we sometimes take it out of always the crazy political, that's actually really good for us as a community, as a nation. >> laura: does it bother you that she wouldn't fire the guy? not a conservative right wing person. >> not at all. what i am concerned about is what we do right now to move forward to protect all women and girls. >> laura: don't we have better examples than hillary? why is hillary so when you want to have anyone near? that's my point. monica, let's get you in on thi this. they showcase are some heroine of the rights movement. go ahead, take it away. >> i found it amazing but not at all surprising that they would highly hillary clinton at the height of this cultural moment of awareness on sexual abuse,
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sexual misconduct. this is a woman who defended and protected a sexual predator for decades, a man also known as her husband. and of course we find out that she protected a campaign aide in '08 after she was warned, and she refused to dismiss him and not only that, his bad behavior continued after that and she continued make excuses for him. in this moment when you have all of these musicians on stage and they are all making political statements whether it's bono on immigration or the female artists on the #metoo movement, the ideas that they would take her and hold her up as some sort of symbol, that is self righteousness and hypocrisy. these are the least self-aware people on the planet. >> let's just step back. are we really saying that we are going to continue in 2018 to blame women for the sins of their husbands? that seems, in some ways, way antiquated and outdated. if you look at what hillary clinton has done, not who she is married to, but what she's done as senator or at the
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state department. she spent years and years of her time working on behalf of women and girls in this country and around the world. >> can i just lump in your? when she raises the idea of what she's done for women and girls. what did she do to monica lewinsky, paula jones, kathleen willie? mrs. clinton was right at the center of trying to smear and discredit these women. a narcissistic looney tunes. that's what mrs. clinton did for specific women. >> we can talk about maxine, who has done tons of work with hillary clinton on ship. we can talk about the mothers of the movement on gun violence prevention. we can go back and forth with names. >> laura: she can do a lot of good liberal things that you like and at the same time not be the best person to come out for the #metoo movement. if i were a liberal, i would be like okay, hillary, thanks for your service, but we are moving on. turn the page from the clintons.
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if not helping democrats. it seems like most democrats i want to know want to be done with the clintons. >> i do think that the #metoo movement is bigger than any one person. i do agree with you on that and i think it's a powerful moment for everybody in the country. >> laura: thank you so much, and we will be right back. stay do you need the most trusted battery in your noise-canceling headphones? maybe not. maybe you could trust your flight attendant won't be the chatty type. hello everyone, welcome aboard, i'm jason with a y. maybe you could trust your seatmate will be an introvert. i've been to south america, i've been to mexico, i've been to... maybe you could trust everyone will settle in for 10 hours of peace and quiet. (baby crying) (ice rattling) (singing & drum banging) i got to tell you i'm excited for these long flights. i love them because it gets me out of the house. or, you could just trust duracell. (silence) (♪)
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