what is next for him. i will sit down with trey gowdy on tuesday for an exclusive interview. his first since announcing that on cable. so that's coming up. have a good night, everybody. we will see you tomorrow. tucker carlson coming up next. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to tucker carlson tonight. we are awaiting remarks from president trump is he at the winter meeting of the republican national committee. the president is scheduled to start speaking 8:10 tonight from the trump hotel in washington, d.c. you are looking at pictures of it right there. of course, we will take you live when he does. but, first, washington has been in near limbo all day. mesmerized by the promise that the now famous house intelligence committee memo will be released at any moment. any second. we don't know when it turns out. at this point all we know for certain about the memo is that it's four pages long. it was compiled by intel committee chairman devin nunes and as of tonight remains classified and hidden from public view.

according to some who have read it the memo exposes shocking misconduct by intelligence and law enforcement agencies during the 2016 election. including spying on americans for political purposes. we can't confirm any of that. like pretty much everyone else, we have not seen the document. buff the charges are strong enough to shake public faith in some of our most important public institutions. and the only way to fix that is to release the memo so the rest of us can see the evidence and decide for ourselves what it amounts to. that's how democracies work. it seems like an obvious solution. in fact, it's the only solution. and, yet, for some reason, the prospect of transparency has triggered panic in the democratic party and among its guard in the media. just a year ago "the washington post," for example, adopted the pomp pose and yet indisputable true slogan democracy dies in darkness. just this week that paper dismissed the congressional memo as, quote, a hyper partisan attempt to discredit mueller. of course, the post would

have no way of knowing that they haven't seen the memo. they don't want you to see it, either. how did democracy dies in darkness become some things are best kept secret? atlantic t. turns out when transparency hurts democrats, the media oppose transapparently remember when cnn's chris cuomo warned viewers they would be breaking the law simply by reading john podesta's leaked emails. most agree with the media on this. as the onion put it together the fbi warns republican memo could undermine faith in massive unaccountable secret government agencies. no surprise there. most people, everywhere, would rather avoid accountability if at all possible. the federal government's transparency caucus has always been notably small. the question is are there legitimate reasons to oppose releasing the memo. reasons craven for cheering democrats or career aspiration. only two legitimate reasons come to mind. are the contents of the memo

provablably false and would releasing the memo imperil national security. those are realens questions. so far the answer to both appears to be no. in other words, there is no excuse for withholding this document from the public, claims to the contrary are partisan barking and you ought to ignore them. mark steyn is an author and columnist. he joins us tonight. so, mark, i think the best summary of the argument against this from the federal point of view came out today in the onion which quoted an imaginary federal official as saying and i'm quoting if we take away the public's faith in this shadowing monolith all that's left is an extensive network of rogue unelected officers carrying out extra judicial missions for have a right subjective and occasionally personal reasons and we wouldn't want that. >> exactly. and as you noted, "the washington post" has come out against the release of the memo. this is the newspaper that every couple of years hollywood makes a movie about with catherine graham

the late owner and ben bradley the late editor said oh, yeah. i'm i will publish this and i'm prepared to take the risk of going to jail. and tom hanks gets all -- looks forward to all the oscar nominations. every actor would kill to play the "washington post" journalist who says i'm publishing the memo and ready to go to jail. in the real world oh, no, no, you people out there don't need to know this it could imperil all our deep state bureaucracies if you were to see this memo. there is a kind of conflict there. >> tucker: democracy dies in darkness but not in this specific case. is there and you covered a lot of national security stories for decades. i have read them. do you think there are legitimate reasons to withhold this memo from public view?

>> i don't think so. we li in leaky times. so far we have had an investigation about supposed russian government interference in the u.s. election for which there is very minimal evidence. whereas in the course of the investigation, a lot of evidence has emerged about american government interference in the election, which ought to be a lot more concerning. and we have seen texts, we have seen emails reports of meetings: prima facie texts insurance policy. one big massive fruit of the poisonous tree. the poisonous tree being a memo that was paid for by the democrats with input from the russians, purely for the purpose of enabling the party in government to spy on its political

opponents. that's the scandal that's why the american people are entitled to see the memo. >> tucker: if this memo were not released and cloaked under classified status, wouldn't that abet the most destructive kind of distrust in government and conspiracy theories and exactly the kind of discourse that really does undermine a country it seems to me? sunlight really is needed here. >> well, yes. you look at it, if you are say vladimir putin and you wanted to interfere in america's election? what serves your purposes more? trying to find a candidate who will be your stooge or actually creating conditions where there is a paralyzed relationship between the permanent bureaucracy in the government and massive mistrust of all government institutions? i mean, in effect, the

russia investigation itself is a huge victory for putin. >> tucker: that's a deep point. >> i would say one other thing too here, tucker, this investigation isn't where it ought to be right now. mueller is on the back foot. the fbi is on the back foot and trump is actually teaching a lesson here. if you look at what happened during the bush administration during that disgraceful scooter libby investigation a few years ago where bush took the high road and steered clear of it and it was immensely damaging to him. trump on the other hand is saying there is a bigger scandal here and so far that bigger scandal is out punching the so-called russia investigation. >> tucker: so far that's right. i think the memo will shine a lot of light on that in either direction. mark steyn thank you for that. that was interesting. >> thanks, tucker.

>> tucker: we are still awaiting the president's speech. that should begin at any moment. joe has been around these issues for a long time. former district attorney for the distric district of colombi. thanks for coming on. >> my pleasure. >> tucker: news reports the fbi director i don't know if it's true or not is threatening to resign. >> i hope he does. >> tucker: what is that about? where are these stories coming from? >> chris wray planted these stories himself. he is trying to show the employees of the fbi and the former agents that he is brave. he is stall wart. he is standing up for them. this is nonsensical. if he offers to resign, the president should accept his resignation. this type of behavior by fbi director is childish. it's immature. let me say that after since august, the congress has been seeking the documents which are going to be revealed somewhat in the four page memorandum which demonstrate the corruption on the seventh floor of the fbi and at the department of justice under comey. and others.

it is inconceivable to me that wray has to turn to a threat of resignation to make himself look good. it displays a lack of leadership lack of confidence and. in addition, it shows arrogance toward congressional oversight. the notion of going to the speaker of the house and saying, mr. speaker, you really don't want you to publish this memo. what in the name of god is wrong at the top of the fbi? >> tucker: i guess what i'm confused by. like most americans i'm always willing to give the benefit of the doubt to law enforcement intel agencies. it's my government. >> yes. >> tucker: i don't understand the rationale. what make me nervous and makes me think it might be butt covering, they never explain why the country would be imperiled by the release of the information. >> one thing both chris wray and rod rosenstein the deputy attorney general have done a miserable job at leaders in explaining why they are doing what they are

doing. why they can't do what people want them to do. do you know what chris wray was arguing for yesterday and today? to remove the names of all the fbi agents and the doj people who have broken the law and are going to be revealed in the memorandum. >> tucker: on what grounds? how would the public benefit from the reredaction. >> they wouldn't. this is the arrogance of wray and rosenstein. they want to protect the bureaucracy. they want to protect the bureaucracy because they think the institutions are more important than you or i knowing anything. and they think the country cannot survive without them. this is this phony notion that doj and the fbi are independent of the executive branch and the president of the united states, it is an insidious concept. they work for the president. he can fire them. he can tell them what to do. that doesn't mean is he going to interfere in an investigation. but the arrogance of wray

and rosenstein defy congressional oversight and ask the speaker to take out names of people who have broken the law. how outrageous. >> tucker: what do you make of the argument of the talk show host. ask the questions you are asking demonstrate the lack of respect for law enforcement. you don't appreciate the work they do. the risks they take. you are basically unpatriotic to want to know what your government is doing. >> let me say this, i have been a federal prosecutor and investigator for more than 30 years. i have had my family threatened by drug dealers and terrorists. this is nonsensical. we all respect the street agents. we respect the prosecutors at the career level of the justice department. what we are talking about here is criticism of political appointees of the fbi. and political appointees at the department of justice. this has nothing to do with the street agents. the arguments of the left are phony arguments designed to make it look like people, like me, who are critical of the fbi in this situation are critical of everyone

that's nonsense. >> tucker: when joan walsh says you are unpatriotic for asking what your government is doing you say it's not unpatriotic. >> as an old u.s. attorney i don't like dirty cops. the seventh floor is full of them and you were echelon of the doj under obama was full of dirty cops. they threw a case against hillary clinton like a bunch of lousy 1930s prize fighters for 500 bucks and they try to frame donald trump with a created crime. >> tucker: seems like our patriotic duty would be to untangle the mess, find out what happened and -- >> -- let's find out what happened. let's unseal the memo. >> tucker: amen. joe, thank you for that stirring and true. i thought. still waiting on the president's remarks from the trump hotel here in washington. scheduled to begin at any moment. of course we will bring it to you. we will break into the ads if we need to. that's how committed we are

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♪ >> tucker: a fox news alert. the president about to speak at the rnc winter meeting being held in the trump hotel here in washington. he will discuss, we think, the fbi memo. we are not sure there is a new report out though that there is evidence of partisan activity described in the memo. a number of new reports. haven't confirmed them. "wall street journal" has been on this story for months and she joins us tonight. kim, thanks for coming on. >> i'm so happy to be here, tucker. >> tucker: thank you. i don't mean to call you out on this because i don't know if you have seen it came out about 60 seconds ago the

hill reporting the congressional republicans will make the case that half to three quarters of the evidence that federal law enforcement officials used to begin the investigation into trump and his campaign came initially from partisan sources connected to hillary clinton. basically democratic opo was used to start this investigation. does that sound plausible? >> yeah, it does sound plausible. because, look, people need to step back. when they go and look at this memo when it finally comes out, and this has been somewhat lost among all the back and forth, is what have you here is an fbi that launched a counter intelligence probe into an active presidential campaign. now, normally the bar for that would have to be very, very high. so if we find out that, in fact, even -- i'm sorry, even half of it or a third of it or a bit of it was based on partisan research from another campaign or manufactured news that came from that campaign, that is highly troubling.

>> tucker: so, give us some perspective on this figure carter page who appears to be a central figure. more central than some of us understood in this. he was the one that fbi or that the justice dental departmt argued was a foreign agent in order to get the fisa government to spy on him or the campaign. is there any information at all that he was a russia agent? what do we know about him in connection with with the trump campaign. >> nothing so far that we know of. in fact, if the reporting is to be believed, this is all based on some innuendo that was in a dossier that was created by an opposition research firm that was working for the clinton campaign. that's where some of the accusations came from. also, supposedly, the overheard ram blingts of a junior trump campaign aide while he was drunk in london saying something about the campaign. we have yet to be presented with any evidence that the fbi used as a basis for the

probe or for the warrant. both of which enormous uses of power. >> tucker: so in the subsequent year, and there has been a lot of leaking, is there any hint at all that the investigation is overturned any evidence of collusion between the trump campaign proper and the putin government? >> no. and this is something that i think that people also need to understand. look, the reason the house did this, they are doing an investigation of whether or not there was fisa abuse. that means did the government abuse its power to look at a citizen? if this probe and this wiretap of carter page went on for months and months and months and continued to never throw up anything, that's another question of abuse. >> tucker: that's right. >> that's a big thing, monitoring a citizen. if you don't find anything, you shut it down. you don't use it as an excuse as a continued way to monitor a campaign. >> tucker: so i wonder why there is such resistance here in washington from the federal bureaucracy, from the democratic party, from

the media and from some republicans like lindsey graham to getting this memo out before the public and might put some concerns to rest. on what grounds would they be opposing that? >> well, there are no good grounds at this point. remember, tucker, we have had guys like devin nunes and trey gowdy put this memo together. they care deeply about national security. you've had chief of staff flynn look at it, members of the intelligence community. they have all deemed it okay to go live. so, there can be only one reason and that's because of what is in this memo is damaging to certain people aren't named by name in it. and i think what we're going to see come out in this is that members of the fbi were, let's say, cavalier with the truth in terms of what they told the fisa court, that they rested this entire probe on very flimsy, if any, evidence and that they just, you know, weren't straight with some of the people they were dealing with as they tried to get very, very powerful tools to look at american citizens. >> i'm confused though.

i mean, you are a working journalist. i thought the basic precept of journalism was that the public has a right to know as much as it can realistically about what powerful people, and particularly the government -- ♪ >> tucker: i'm sorry i have to cut you off there. the president is taking the stage. kim central, thank you. here is the president of the united states. >> thank you, everybody. wow. well, you know ronna and i we won michigan together. so i said i think we have to keep her and now look at the job she is doing. what a job. thanks, ronna. what a job. [applause] that's true. they are setting records but we are going to set another kind of record and that's making our great country so great again, so much better than it ever was, our military, our immigration situation. i think it has a chance. you know, the democrats are awol. they are missing in action. [laughter] we are saying where are they?

we have a proposal. we never hear from them because i don't think they want to solve the damascus with a problem. i think they want to talk about it. i think they want to obstruct. you know the name is resist. that's the name of their movement. resist. that's all they do is resist. i don't know if they're good at it. they can't be too good at it because we are passing a lot of things. so i wouldn't say their resistance is extremely successful. the thing i'm most proud about, we passed the biggest, the most beautiful tax cut and reform. [applause] >> that anybody has seen and included in that, included in that is the individual mandate repeal. that's where you pay a fortune in order not to have to pay for health insurance. think of that one. [laughter] in other words, did you go and you don't have so much because you are in this middle group, and you can't really buy health insurance or healthcare so you write a

big, beautiful check. you take a lot of money for the privilege of not paying and you get nothing. do you think that's a fair deal? we repealed it, folks. we repealed it. [applause] and anwr, you know, i heard so much about anwr over the years. they have been trying to get anwr, alaska. they have been trying to get it passed for 40 years. i didn't think it was so big. i said what's the big deal? and then a friend of mine called, who is in that business, energy. he said, you know, they have been trying to pass it for 42 years, ronald reagan tried and failed. everybody tried and failed. and i hear you are going to get it passed. this is just a little part of our bill. it's one of the big finds in the world. oil and gas. and as soon as i heard that i said, you know, i love this anwr. this is big stuff. i love it. [cheers] so it's great. but we just had -- did

anybody not see the state of the union? [laughter] because even the haters back there gave us good reviews on that one. it's hard for them to do. they came up with some fake polls. they had fake polls but the fake polls were even good. and they secretary of defense what are we going to do? took them a couple of hours to figure before they went negative, you know. they got calls from the bosses, you can't say that about trump. you can't say good. but it's been -- we have had an incredible time. and just about everybody and i recognize so many people but just about everybody in this room has been here from the beginning of this incredible journey. and you know we have a few terms. it's always going to be make america great again. that's always going to be our baby. [applause] >> that's always going to be our baby. but we also have america first. we are putting america

first. we are putting it over other countries. i always say because it's an arrogant statement. i say to them have you got to put your company. >> tucker: that's the president of the united states at the hotel named after him, the trump hotel in washington, d.c., pennsylvania avenue, speaking at the rnc meeting earlier spoke to members of congress at a retreat they have been having at the greenbrier resort in west virginia. congressman jim jordan and steve king of iowa were there and join us tonight. thank you both for coming on. i appreciate it congressman jordan, i have to ask you about this memo. where are we on that? i know -- i don't think you are in washington but i can tell you everyone here is expecting it's going to be released any moment. when will it be released? do you know? >> i think tomorrow, tucker and i always say this. never forget what we are talking about here. a secret court where the fbi goes to get a secret warrant to spy on american citizens. and tomorrow when this memo comes out, the american people, i think, will see very clearly what the fbi told the court to get that

secret warrant and what they didn't tell the court. and to me that is critical, particularly when this all happened in the context of a, you know, campaign for the presidency of the united states. so, that comes out tomorrow. and i think it's important for every single journalist like to you see it and talk about it. but more importantly it will be important for every single american to read what took place. >> tucker: so i just want to make sure i understand you clearly. your concern is the pretext under which they got the warrant. >> all i'm saying is the memo will come out tomorrow. it will give context. remember what goes on fisa court. secret court where people go to get a secret warrant to go and spy on fellow citizens. >> tucker: right. >> all i'm saying tomorrow is this memo will give context what we a have all been talking about. i can't talk about memo and names. we can't talk about that until it comes out. that's the context that is so critical. in fact, we all know what we have heard from the strzok, page text messages the bias

that exists. i would argue almost the animus that existed with some of these key people at the top of the fbi. so i think tomorrow will there be clarification to what actually took place. >> tucker: so you both have been cloistered away and may have missed some of the press coverage of this. the media have been warning about the catastrophic consequences if too much transparency comes to the fbi or the workings of government. here is what part of people have been saying. listen to this. >> you guys are going to really regret this when this is all over, steve. you are demonizing people who, for the most part, keep us safe. we have no evidence of any kind of -- >> -- no, i'm not. i'm not demonizing the men and women of the fbi. this is a pattern of jumping for a conclusion because it is a beautiful distraction from the investigation. >> oh, chris. >> you don't like. >> not so. >> there are dots that need to be connected along the way. >> i know but you are saying. >> history will look at this and say if we fail to connect the dots, we were naive and foolish.

>> tucker: congressman king, i'm not going to ask you to respond to your own interview with chris cuomo on the other channel. but, to the first point that you have heard made at cnn, did people who ask too many questions about what their government is doing and press too hard for answers are unpatriotic. what's your response to that? >> i think on the other side of that it is patriotism itself in and a duty to uphold our oath. duty for oversight. particularly over the fbi and doj. and if we saw this evidence and as slocket committee on intel has seen this evidence, if we turned our backs to that and turned a blind eye to that shame on us if we trailed in the dust the integrity of this country. somebody has got to look over their shoulder. and when the public sees hopefully tomorrow what's in that memo, it's not going to answer all the questions. i don't want to promise that. but, it certainly asks the right ones. and it starts the path down to investigate down these rabbit trails. i think it will be the equivalent of when the

cannon went off when the land rush began of the oklahoma sooners and they ran out across the prayery. i think the press, the pundits, the american people are going to start looking back against all the little signals and evidence that we have seen over the months. they're going to have different means than they had when they were first analyzed and we have to open doors at the end of those trails so that the american people know this is earth-shaking. it's worse than watergate. and the only thing that we don't know yet whether does this lead all the way to the president of the united states. >> tucker: congressman jordan apparently the director of the fbi has been arguing that the names of fbi officials accused of wrongdoing ought to be redacted from the document. that seems like butt covering of the most obvious kind. will they be redacted? >> i don't think so. i mean, do something wrong you don't want it to be made public. i remember when i got in trouble at school i didn't want the teach tore call my parents. of course they don't want it to go public. think about this. go back to the clinton investigation. we all suspected the fix was in on the clinton investigation. once we saw that peter

strzok, lisa page text messages, we knew the fix was in on the clinton investigation. and then those same top people and understand there is a big difference between the top people at the fbi and rank and file people who do a great job every single day. top people who rigid the clinton investigation we know that from the clinton investigation. this is no profile on courage because she knows profile charges are not going to be brought talking about attorney loretta lynch. same people who did that who launched and ran the trump administration, right? everyone with common sense will say wait a minute, maybe we better check it out. tomorrow's memo gives even further clarification why it's important to check it out and do our appropriate oversight function. >> tucker: it's also third world. this country really degraded under the last administration, obviously. congressman, thank you both very much for that. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: i look forward to seeing that memo. many are arguing, virtually everyone in washington, actually, still arguing against releasing that fbi memo because have you no right to know what's in it. keep that in mind. a former obama advisor who

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>> tucker: during the state of the union address the president offered democrats a deal for pathway to citizenship for nearly 2 million dealers. not just legal status but citizenship. voting, benefits, everything. in return the president said he wanted measures to cut down on chain migration that is the principle that allows immigrant in the u.s. to

over time bring in their extended family here. instead of taking the deal, democrats are saying that chain migration is itself a bigoted term. watch. >> look what they are doing for w. family unification, making it the fake name chain. they like the word chain. that sends tremors through people. >> i think a lot of president trump's rhetoric is racist. when someone uses the word chained migration, is intentional in trying to demonize families. literally trying to demonize families and make it a racist slur. it is not right. >> tucker: kristin gillibrand is somebody actually sitting senator. david joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: chain migration is a term has been used for 50 years. it's not a physical chain. there is no reference to any horrifying reference in american history like slavery is. that's insane. principle is important one.

70%, 70% of all illegal immigrants into this country come through chain migration. family reunification. i don't care what they call it principle is the same. we don't have any control over those people. we don't get to vet them or choose them and come here because they are related to people already here. >> of course we do get to vet them. they have to apply and have to get a visa is a and takes 10 to 13 years to come here. don't come here automatically. also important to note that the trump proposal limits all chain pry congratulation. so you can't bring in any family members other than your spouse or your children. >> tucker: i misspoke. you are absolutely right. we do get to vet them and do our best make sure they are not members of isis. sometimes we fail on that. what i meant is we don't get to choose them. say this is the most impressive possible person. the main criterion for relation is a blood relation already here. so it's to the a good way to assemble a cast of all-stars. it's a good way to benefit immigrants but maybe not the whole country.

do you see what i mean? that's the majority of immigrants. why is that a good way to do it? that's just a simple question. >> first of all it is the way we have done it for a very long time. for instance, president trump's mom. >> tucker: we have done it for a long time? >> we have done it that way for a long time. >> tucker: we have done a lot of things for a long time that's terrible. >> let me give you apropos example. president trump's mom came from scotland in 1930. she came here because her sister was here. her sister sponsored her. she came through chain migration. >> tucker: i fell asleep and can't track this conversation it is to immaterial. 70% of our immigrants come this way. it's simple question. have we done it for a long time and have we benefited to it do immigrants like it? i know the answer to all of those things. is the best way to choose your immigrants whether they happen to be related to somebody? would you staff your company that wait a minute oh you have a cousin in utica? he is hired. it's not the best way to do anything, right? >> not the only way people come here. now you are suggesting only

way people. >> tucker: 70% of all legal immigrants. 70% majority come that wait a minute why wouldn't we reassess that way because critters citizen gillibrand you are racist. hush, seriously. real adult question is, that a good idea? >> let's make this pragmatic. president trump's proposal is to limit chain migration just to spouses and children. now, the democrats have accepted that proposal with respect to the daca participants, the people who are dreamers who are going to get legal status in 10 to 12 years. that a compromise. the republicans and president trump are now saying they want to eliminate all chain migration. that might be -- >> no that might be too overbroad. give you example. engineer comes here from india. he comes to work for google. he is a lawndz, is he contributing to the economy. and he wants to bring his parents. normally under the current system eventually he could bring his parents. this would eliminate that. and we have to think about is that really what we want

to do? do we want to eliminate all people who come here for the type of people you are talking about to come on merit based reasons for bringing in their parents or their family. >> tucker: i understand why it would be a bad deal for the immigrants but i think there is another party whose interests should be represented and that's the rest of us. the question is it's a real question. attempts by these members of congress to shout it down using terms like racist isn't helpful. doesn't help us. that should be a question, too. it's not. is the immigrant helped by -- yeah, of course he is he loves it why wouldn't he? i'm for that i want to make him happy. why should i be for it? do you know what i mean? >> look, democrats should not be calling it racist. i don't agree that the term is racist. entrepreneurship, if we didn't have chain migration, president trump would not be here. so in that way. yes i agree with you that chain migration has been harmful to america. >> tucker: david, thank you. we ask you about the fbi memo at another time. it is now time for final

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before do you. each correct answer is worth one point. get it wrong you lose a point. best of five wins. are you ready? >> ready. >> tucker: let's get started. the white house recently asked the going heim to borrow a painting to by vincent van gogh. the museum declined instead offered president trump which piece of so-called art? carley? >> 18 karat gold toilet. >> tucker: too grotesque. >> 18 karat fully functioning gold toilet. this work of art displayed at public restroom and it had been used by thousands of people. >> tucker: how did you know 18 karat? >> the old noggin. >> tucker: we don't deal in that currency here. >> gold. >> i appreciate that. he is a man. tomato, tomato.

>> tucker: this week first time in 150 years a blue moon, a super moon and liewrnl eclipse occurred simultaneously on the same night. there is a name for this phenomenon. what is it guy benson? >> it is a super blue blood moon. >> tucker: too weird but let's see if you are right. the tape. >> you are looking at the super blue blood moon. first time we have seen this in the news more than 150 years. here is what it looks like right here above new york. >> cool. >> really cool. >> tucker: how did you know that? >> because someone made the joke that i'm sort of blue-blooded and this is my moon. >> wow. >> this speaks to you, too. >> i don't know. >> tucker: i see a super bad blood moon rising kind of thing. >> say that three times fast. >> tucker: question number three, multiple choice, at 1 hour and 20 minutes president trump's state of the union address was long but it was not the longest in history. which former president still holds that title?

is it bill clinton, george w. bush or barack h. obama? guy benson? >> bill clinton. >> tucker: are you sure. >> i think so. >> tucker: no equivocating in your answers. is it bill clinton? >> the hour and 20 minute speech, the third longest state of the union ever behind two bill clinton speeches. >> oh. >> he has spots one and two? >> one and two, yeah. >> tucker: that's clintontonian. i'm not surprised, actually. obama i felt like. >> i know. >> he was a wordy character but no one beats clinton in that category. one democratic congresswoman is so offended by president trump she says a parental advisory ought to be aired before his speeches. who is this congresswoman? >> maxine waters. >> maxine waters of los angeles? >> yes. >> tucker: is it maxine waters? >> this president with his vulgarity and his disrespect for women and people of color is a terrible role model for our children.

whenever he appears on tv, there should be a disclaimer that says this may not be acceptable for children. >> yes. that's not extreme. >> tucker: no. >> totally. >> tucker: are we two to two? >> we are. >> tucker: we are. confirmed that two to two. this is the tie breaker. question five, final question. palms are sweating. here it is. a video of a rat, the rodent went viral this week because the rat was caught doing something pretty extraordinary. what was the rat doing? >> the rat was doing something extraordinary. >> an. >> this is going to be risky because i know i would be docked a point. >> tucker: in fact indeed you would lose. >> you would but you have pressed. >> so i have to answer. there is something i in the back of my mind that says that i read something about something to do with a cigarette. he had a cigarette. not pizza rat.

>> years ago. >> tucker: was the rat smoking a cigarette? roll your own too. any kind of cigarette was the rat smoking? >> really important that you properly clean. especially if you are kind of hairy like this fellow. look at him preparing for his date. he is getting all the important spots. is he looking forward to it. just got out of a bad marriage. and he just met somebody online. and. >> is he bathing. >> mouse clip away. >> come on, man. [buzzer] >> cutest rat ever. >> not a dirty habit but clean habit. hitting the cocaine bar but no. >> i want to see the individual overthe rat smoking a cigarette. >> i saw something might have been a joke based on that. >> tucker: it was a bold guest in the end it did not pay off. etoys of this game. >> thank you so much. >> tucker: carley shimkus you remain for the third week in a row. unbelievable.

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>> tucker: introductory macroeconomics. professor spencer pack decided any discussion of economics would be incomplete without a large helping of political views. in syllabus he trying presented a trigger alert. i will try to present different economic theories. i find conservative classical theories to be pretty inadequate in explaining the economic benefits of the last decade.

moreovers i think our current president is mentally ill, pathological liar. students upset with my views may want to consider taking introductory macroeconomics from another professor. if you did disagree with pack, would you speak up in class? probably not after he dismissed your views as proto fascist. we contacted connecticut college for a statement and got the boilerplate. we value different viewpoints and encourage dialogue in the classroom, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. they mean none of it who believes this crap? nobody. we'll be right back. beat]

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♪ >> tucker: kind of disappointed it's over. so much going on. tomorrow could be a big news day for real if the anticipated fbi memo comes

as many members of congress predicting it will. we will be here live to cover it and interpret it and bring you new information on it tune in 8:00 show sworn enemy of lying pomposity group think. we are glad you stayed. good night from washington. sean is right here. >> sean: thanks, tucker. welcome to hannity. breaking right now president trump has read the classified memo showing stunning fisa abuses against his campaign. it will likely be released as early as tomorrow. also to be the the hill's john solomon reporting that republicans are now looking to make the case that the so-called russia investigation was based on, quote: politically tainted evidence tied to clinton loyalist. we will explain. and meanwhile tonight, an all-out war on what is the truth and transparency is being waged right here in the united states of america. fierce, unfair, opposition mounting, what? to conceal and cover up one of the biggest scandals in the history of this country. now, democrats led