president trump will travel to mar-a-lago for the weekend while vice president pence is expected that speak at a tax cut event. groundhog day. we have six more weeks of winter? good night from washington. i am shannon bream. >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." we are awaiting remarks from president trump. he at the winter meeting of the republican national committee. the president is scheduled to start speaking 8:10 tonight from the trump hotel in washington, d.c. you are looking at pictures of it right there. of course, we will take you live when he does. but, first, washington has been in near limbo all day. mesmerized by the promise that the now famous house intelligence committee memo will be released at any moment. any second.en we don't know when, it turns out.me at this point, all we know for certain about the memo is that it's four pages long. it was compiled by intel committee chairman devin nunes, and as of tonight remains classified and hidden from public view.in according to some who have

read it, the memo exposes shocking misconduct by our intelligence and law enforcement agencies during the 2016 election, including spying on americans for political purposes. we can't confirm any of that. like pretty much everyone else, we have not seen the document. but the charges are strong enough to shake public faith m in some of our most important public institutions. and the only way to fix that is to release the memo so the rest of us can see the evidence and decide for ourselves what it amountsee to. that's how democracies work. it seems like an obvious solution. in fact, it's the only solution. and, yet, for some reason, the prospect of transparency has triggered panic in the democratic party and among its pretorian guard in the media. just a year ago "the washington post," for example, adopted the pompous and yet indisputably true slogan "democracy dies in darkness. just this week, that paper dismissed the congressional memo as "a hyper partisan attempt to discredit mueller." of course, "the post" would have no way of knowing that.o

they haven't seen the memo. they don't want you to see it, either. how did "democracy dies in darkness" become "some things are best kept secret"?ie it turns out when transparency hurts democrats, the media oppose transparency. remember when cnn's chris cuomo warned viewers they would be breaking the law simply by reading john podesta's leaked emails. c needless to say, most government bureaucrats agree with the media on this. as "the onion" put it today, "the fbi warns republican memo could undermine faith in massive, unaccountable secret government agencies."ep no surprise there. most people everywhere would rather avoid accountability if it's at all possible. the federal government'sty transparency caucus has always been notably small. the question is, are there legitimate reasons to oppose releasing the memo? reasons that have nothing to do with craven media cheerleading for democrats or with adam schiff's career aspirations. only two legitimate reasonsn come to mind. are the contents of the memo provably false and therefore libelous, and would releasingso

the memo imperil national security. those are real questions. so far, the answer to both appears to be "no." in other words, there is no excuse for withholding this document from the public. claims to the contrary are partisan barking, and you ought to ignore them.cl mark steyn is an author and columnist. he joins us tonight. so, mark, i think the best summary of the argument against this, from the federal point of view, came out today in "the onion" which quoted an imaginary federal official as saying, and i'm quoting, "if we take away theed public's faith in this shadowy monolith, all that's left is an extensive network of rogue, unelected intelligence officers carrying out extrajudicial missions for a variety of subjective and occasionally personal reasons and we wouldn't want that." >> exactly. and as you noted, "the washington post" has come out against the release of the memo. this is the newspaper that every couple of years, hollywood makes a movie about with catherine graham,

the late owner, and ben bradley, the late editor, said "oh, yeah. i'm -- i -- i will publish this and i'm prepared to take the risk of going to jail." and tom hanks and gets all -- looks forward to all the oscar nominations and all the rest of it. every actor would kill to play the "washington post" journalist who says, "i'm publishing the memo and willing to go to jail." in the real world, "oh, no, no, you people out there don't need to know this. it could imperil all our deep state bureaucracies if you were to see this memo." there is a kind of conflict there.ou >> tucker: i would say.. democracy dies in darkness but not in this specific case. is there, and you've covered a lot of national security stories for decades. i have read them. do you think there are legitimate reasons to withhold this memo from public view? >> i don't think so.

because we live in leaky times. and so far, we have had an investigation about supposed russian government interference in the u.s. election for which there is very minimal evidence. whereas in the course of the investigation, a lot of evidence has emerged about american government interference in the election, which ought to be a t lot more concerning. and we have seen texts. we have seen emails, reports of meetings, phases that are prima facie suspicious such as "insurance policy." and the idea that the whole thing is one big massive fruit of the poisonous tree. the poisonous tree being a memo that was paid for byre the democrats with input from the russians, purely for the purpose of enabling the party in government to spy on its political opponents.

that's the scandal. that's why the american people are entitled to see the memo. >> tucker: if this memo were not released -- and i think it will be, imminently, but let's say it weren't released and the supporting documents remained cloaked under their classified status, wouldn't that abet the most destructive kind of distrust in government and conspiracy theories and exactlyt the kind of discourse that really does undermine a country, it seems to me? i mean, sunlight really is needed here. >> well, yes. you look at it, if you were, say, vladimir putin and you wanted to interfere in america's election, what actually serves your purposes more? trying to find a candidate who will be your stooge or actually creating conditions where there is a paralyzeded relationship between the permanent bureaucracy in the government and massive mistrust of all government institutions? i mean, in effect, the russia investigation itself

is a huge victory for putin. >> tucker: that's a deep point. >> i would say one other thing here, too, tucker. this investigation isn't where it ought to be right now. mueller is on the back foot. the fbi is on the back foot, and trump is actually teaching a lesson here.. if you look at what happened during the bush administration during that disgraceful scooter libby investigation a few yearsha ago, where bush took the high road and steered clear of it and it was immensely damaging to him. trump, on the other hand, is saying there is a bigger scandal here, and so far that biggers scandal is outpunching the so-called russia investigation. >> tucker: so far, that's right. i think the memo will shine a lot of light on that in either direction. mark steyn, thank you for that.il that was interesting. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: we are still awaiting the president's speech. that should begin at any moment.

meantime, joe digenova has been around these issues for a long time. he's former district attorney for the district of colombia. and he joins us in the studio tonight. joe, thanks for coming on. >> my pleasure. >> tucker: the first question is a topical one. there were news reports the fbi director -- i don't know if these are true or not -- but he's threatening to resign. >> i hope he does. >> tucker: so what is that about? where are these stories coming from? are they true? >> chris wray planted these stories himself.ou he is trying to show the employees of the fbi and the former agents that he is brave. he is stalwart. he is standing up for them. this is nonsensical. if he offers to resign, the president should accept his resignation. this type of behavior by an fbi director is childish. it's immature. and let me say that after -- since august, the congress has been seeking the documents which are going to be revealed somewhat in the four page memorandum which demonstrate the corruption on the seventh floor of the fbi and at the department of justice under comey and others. it is inconceivable to me

that wray has to turn to a threat of resignation to make himself look good. it displays a lack of leadership, lack of competence and an inability to understand the times in which you function as a major leader of an american institution. in addition, it shows an arrogance toward congressional oversight. the notion of going to the speaker of the house and saying, "mr. speaker, we really don't want you to publish this memo." what in the name of god is wrong at the top of the fbi? >> tucker: but on what -- i guess what i'm confused by, like most americans i'm always willing to giveve the benefit of the doubt to the fbi, to law enforcement, to intel agencies. it's my government. >> yes. >> tucker: i don't understand the rationale. what make me nervous and what makes me think it might be butt covering, they never explain why the country would be imperiled by the release of the information. >> one of the things that's terrible about this is both chris wray and rod rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, have done a miserable job as leaders in explaining why they are doing what they are j doing, why they can't do what

people want them to do. do you know what chrisis wray was arguing for yesterday and today? to remove the names of all the fbi agents and the doj people who have broken the people who have broken the law and are going to be revealed in the memorandum. >> tucker: but on what grounds? how would the public benefit from the redaction of those names? >> they wouldn't. and it's not about the public. this is the arrogance of wray and rosenstein. they want to protect the bureaucracy. they want to protect the bureaucracy because they think the institutions are more important than you or i knowing anything. and they think the country cannot survive without them. this is this phony notion that doj and the fbi are independent of the executive branch and the president of the united states. it is an insidious concept. they work for the president. he can fire them. he can tell them what to do. that doesn't mean is he going to interfere in an investigation. but the arrogance of wray and rosenstein to think that they can defy congressionalce oversight and ask the speaker to take out the names of people who

have broken the law. how outrageous. >> tucker: so what do you make of the argument from the left -- i'm speaking now of the whole left, every red-faced talk show host and phony pundit on cable news yapping away. to ask the questions like the ones you are asking demonstrates a lack of respect for law enforcement. you don't appreciate the work they do, the risks they take. you are basically unpatriotic to want to know what your government is doing.an >> let me say this, i have been a federal prosecutor and an investigator for more than 30 years. i have had my family threatened by drug dealers and terrorists. this is nonsensical. we all respect the street agents. we respect the prosecutors r at the career level of the justice department. what we are talking about here is criticism ofof political appointees of the fbi and political appointees at the department of justice. this has nothing to do with the street agents. the arguments of the left are phony arguments designed to make it look like people like me, who are critical of the fbi in this situation, are critical of everyone. that's nonsense.n

>> tucker: so when joan walsh on cnn suggests that you are unpatriotic for asking what your government is doing, you don't feel unpatriotic. >> no, it's not a question of patriotism. as an old u.s. attorney, i don't like dirty cops. and the seventh floor of the fbi is full of them and the upper echelon of the doj under obamatt was full of dirty cops. look what they did. they threw a case against hillary clinton like a bunch of lousy 1930s prize fighters for 500 bucks and they try to frame donald trump with a created crime. >> tucker: seems like our patriotic duty would be to untangle the mess, find outt what happened and -- >> let's find out whatle happened. let's unseal the memo. >> tucker: amen. joe, thank you for that, stirring and true, i thought. still waiting on the president's remarks from the trump hotel here in washington. scheduled to begin at any h moment. of course we will bring it to you. we will break into the ads if we need to. that's how committed we are to bring you the news. stay tuned.

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♪ >> tucker: a fox news alert. the president about to speak at the rnc winter meeting being held in the trump hotel here in washington. he will discuss, we think, the fbi memo. we are not sure. there is a new report out though that there is evidence of partisan activity described in the memo. a number of new reports. haven't confirmed them. "wall street journal" has been on this story for months and she joins us tonight.al kim, thanks for coming on. >> i'm so happy to be here, tucker. >> tucker: thank you. i i don't mean to call you out on this, because i don't knowou if you have seen it.

it came out about 60 seconds ago "the hill" reporting the congressional republicans will make the case that half to three quarters of the evidence that federal law enforcement officials used to begin the investigation into trump and his campaign came initially from partisan sources connected to hillary clinton. basically democratic oppo was used to start this investigation. does that sound plausible? >> yeah, it does sound plausible. because, look, people need to step back. when they go and look at this memo when it finallywh comes out, and this has been somewhat lost among all the back and forth, is what have you here is an fbi that launched a counter intelligence probe into an active presidential campaign. i now, normally the bar for that would have to be very, very high. so if we find out that, in fact, even -- i'm sorry, even half of it or a third of it or a bit of it was based on partisan research from another campaign or manufactured news that came from that campaign, that is highly troubling. >> tucker: so, give us some

perspective on this figure, carter page, who appears to be a central figure. more central than some of us understood in this. he was the one that fbi or that the justice department argued was a foreign agent in order to get the fisa warrant to spy on him or the campaign. is there any information at all that he was a russia agent? what do we know about him in connection with thew trump campaign. >> nothing so far that we know. in fact, if the reporting is to be believed, this is all based on some innuendo that was in a dossier that was created by an opposition research firm that was working for the clinton campaign. that's where some of the accusations came from. also, supposedly, the overheard ramblings of a junior trump campaign aide while he was drunk in london saying something about the campaign. we have yet to be presented with any evidence that the fbi used as a basis for the probe or for the warrant.

both of which enormous uses of power. >> tucker: so in the subsequent year, and there has been a lot of leaking, is there any hint at all that the investigation is overturned any evidence of collusion between the trump campaign proper and the putin government? >> no. and this is something that i think that people also need to understand. look, the reason the house did this, they are doing an investigation of whether or not there was fisa abuse. that means did the government t abuse its power to look at a citizen? if this probe and this wiretap of carter page went on for months and months and months and continued to never throw up anything, that's another question of abuse. >> tucker: that's right. >> that's a big thing, monitoring a citizen. if you don't find anything, you shut it down. you don't use it as an excuse as a continued way to monitor a campaign. >> tucker: so i wonder why there is such resistance here in washington from the federal bureaucracy, fromes the democratic party, from

the media and from some republicans like lindsey graham to getting this memo out before the public and it might put some concerns to rest. on what grounds would they be opposing that? >> well, there are no good grounds at this point. remember, tucker, we have had guys like devin nunes and trey gowdy put this memo together. they care deeply about national security. you've had chief of staff flynn look at it, members of the intelligence community. h they have all deemed it okay to go live. so, there can be only one reason and that's because of what is in this memo is damaging to certain people who aren't named by name in it. and i think what we're going to see come out in this isd that members of the fbi were, let's say, cavalier with the truth in terms of what they told the fisa court, that they rested thisy entire probe on very flimsy, if any, evidence and that they just, you know, weren't straight with some of the people they were dealing with as they tried to get very, very powerful tools to look at american citizens.

>> i'm confused though. i mean, you are a working journalist. i thought the basic precept of journalism was that the public has a right to know as much as it can realisticallys about what powerful people, and particularly the government are doing. i'm sorry i have to cut you off there. the president is taking the stage. here is the president of the united states. >> thank you, everybody. wow. well, you know, ronna and i we won michigan together. so i said i think we have to keep her and now look at the job she is doing. what a job. t thanks, ronna. what a job. that's true. they are setting records but we are going to set another kind of record and that's making our great country so great again, so much better than it ever was, our military, our immigration situation. i think it has a chance. you know, the democrats are awol. they are missing in action. we are saying where are they? we have a proposal.

we never hear from them because i don't think they want to solve the daca problem. i think they want to talk about it. i think they want to obstruct. you know, the name is resist. that's the name of their movement. resist. that's all they do is resist. i don't know if they're good at it.t. they can't be too good at it because we are passing a lot of things. so i wouldn't say their resistance is extremely successful. the thing i'm most proud about, we passed the biggest, the most beautiful tax cut and reform. that anybody has seen and included in that, included in that is the individual mandate repeal. that's where you pay a fortune in order not to have to pay for health insurance. think of that one. in other words, did you go and you don't have so much because you are in this middle group, and you can't really buy health insurance or healthcare so you write a big, beautiful check.

you take a lot of money for the privilege of not paying and you get nothing. do you think that's a fair deal? we repealed it, folks. we repealed it. [applause] and anwr, you know, i heard so much about anwr over the years. they have been trying to getet anwr, alaska. they have been trying to get it passed for 40 years. i didn't think it was so big.d i said, what's the big deal? and then a friend of mine called, who is in that business, energy. he said, you know, they have been trying to pass it for 42 years, ronald reagan tried and failed. everybody tried and failed. and i hear you are going to get it passed. this is just a little part of our bill. it's one of the big finds in the world. oil and gas. and as soon as i heard that, i said, you know, i love this anwr. this is big stuff. i love it. so it's great. but we just had -- did anybodyat not see the state of the union?

because even the haters back there gave us good reviews on that one. it's hard for them too do. they came up with some fake polls. they had fake polls but the fake polls were even good. and they said, what are we going to do? took them a couple of hours to figure before they went negative, you know. they got calls from the bosses, you can't say that about trump. you can't say good. but it's been -- we have had an incredible time. and just about everybody and i recognize so many people but just about everybody in this room has been here from the beginning of this incredible journey. and you know, we have a fewrn terms. it's always going to be "make america great again." that's always going to be our baby. that's always going to be our baby. but we also have

"america first." we are putting america first. we are putting it over other countries. i always say, because it's an arrogant statement.s >> tucker: that's the president of the united states at the hotel named after him, the trump hotel here in washington, d.c., pennsylvania avenue, speaking at the rnc meeting earlier spoke to members of congress at a retreat they have been having at the greenbrier resort in west virginia. congressman jim jordan and steve king of iowa were there and join us tonight. thank you both for coming on. i appreciate it.n congressman jordan, i have to ask you about this memo. where are we on that? i know -- i don't think you are in washington but i can tell you everyone here is expecting it's going to be released any moment. when will it be released? do you know? >> i think tomorrow, tucker. and i always say this. never forget what we are talking about here.. a secret court where the fbi goes to get a secret warrant to spy on american citizens. and tomorrow when this memo comes out, the american people, i think, will see very clearly what the fbi told the court to get that secret warrant and what they

didn't tell the court. and to me, that is critical, particularly when this all happened in the context ofs a, you know, campaign for i the presidency of the united states. so, that comes out tomorrow. and i think it's important for every single journalist like to you see it and talk about it. but more importantly, it willou be important for every single american to read what took place. >> tucker: so i just want to make sure i understand you clearly. your concern is the pretext under which they got the t warrant. >> all i'm saying is the memo will come out tomorrow. it will give context.. remember what goes on fisa court. a secret court where people go to get a secret warrant to go and spy on fellow citizens. >> tucker: right. g >> all i'm saying tomorrow o this memo will give some context to what we a have all been talking about. i can't talk about memo and names. we can't talk about that until it comes out. that's the context that is so critical. in fact, we all know what we t

have heard from the strzok-page text messages the bias that exists. i would argue almost the w animus that existed with some of these key people at the top of the fbi. so i think tomorrow will there be clarification to what actually took place. >> tucker: so you both havee been cloistered away working, and may have missed some of the press coverage of this. the media have been warningeq about the catastrophic consequences if too much transparency comes to the fbi or the workings of government. here is part of what people have been saying. listen to this.uy >> you guys are going to really regret this when this is all over, steve. you are demonizing people who, for the most part, keep us safe. we have no evidence of any kind of -- >> no, i'm not. i'm not demonizing the men and women of the fbi. this is a pattern of jumping for a conclusion because it is a beautiful distraction from the investigation. >> not so, chris. >> you don't like. >> not so. there are dots that need to be connected along the way.y. >> i know, but you are saying. >> history will look at this and say if we fail to connect the dots, we were naive and foolish. >> tucker: congressman king,nd i'm not going to ask you to

respond to your own interview with chris cuomoin on the other channel. but to the first point that you heard made at cnn, did people who ask too many questions about what their government is doing and press too hard for answers are unpatriotic. what's your response to that? >> i think on the other side of that, it is patriotism itself and a duty to uphold our oath. support and defend the constitution. and a duty for oversight. particularly over the fbi and doj. and if we saw this evidence and as the select committee on intel has seen this evidence, if we turned our backs to that and turned a blind eye to that, shame on us if we trailed in the dust the integrity of this country. somebody has got to look over their shoulder. and when the public sees hopefully tomorrow what's in that memo, it's not going to answer all the questions. i don't want to promise that. but it certainly asks the right ones. and it starts the path down to investigate down these rabbit trails. i think it will be the equivalent of when the

cannon went off when the land rush began of the oklahoma sooners and they ran out across the prairie. i think the press, the pundits, the american people are going to start looking a back against all the little signals and evidence that we have seen over the months. they're going to have different means than they had when they were first analyzed and we have to open doors at the end of thoseo trails so that the americans people know this is t earth-shaking. it's worse than watergate. and the only thing that we don't know yet whether does this lead all the way to the president of the united states. >> tucker: congressman jordan, apparently the director of the fbi has been arguing that the names of fbi officials accused of wrongdoing ought to be redacted from the document. that seems like butt covering of the most obvious kind. will they be redacted? >> yeah, i don't think so. i mean, you do something wrong you don't want it to be made public. i remember when i got in trouble at school, i didn't want the teacher to call my parents.t of course they don't want it to go public. think about this. go back to the clinton investigation. we all suspected the fix waswe in on the clinton investigation.

once we saw that peter strzok, lisa page text messages, we knew the fix was in on the clinton w investigation. and then those same top people and understand there is a big difference between the top people at the fbi and the rank and file people who do a great job every single day. same top people who rigid the -- rigged the clinton investigation, we know that from the clinton investigation. this is no profile on courage because she knows charges are not going to be brought talking about attorney loretta lynch. same people who did that who launched and ran the trump administration, right? everyone with common sense will say wait a minute, maybe we better check it out. tomorrow's memo gives even further clarification whynt it's important to check it out and do our appropriate oversight function. >> tucker: it's also third world. this country really degraded under the last administration, obviously. congressmen, thank you both very much for that. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: i look forward to seeing that memo. many are arguing, virtually everyone in washington, actually, still arguing against releasing that fbi memo because you have no right to know what's in it.

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>> tucker: during the statete of the union address the president offered democrats a deal for a pathway to citizenship for nearly 2 million dealers. not just legal status but citizenship.rs voting, benefits, everything. in return, the president said he wanted measures to cut down on chain migration that is the principle that allows immigrants in the u.s. to over time bring in their

extended family here. instead of taking the deal, democrats are saying that chain migration is itself a bigoted term. watch. >> look what they are doing for family unification, making it the fake name chain. they like the word chain. that sends tremors through people. >> i think a lot of president trump's rhetoric is racist. when someone uses the wordc chained migration, is intentional in trying to demonize families. literally trying to demonize families and make itt a racist slur. it is not right. >> tucker: kristin gillibrand is an actual sitting senator. not a parody of one. david joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: chain migration is a term has been used for 50 years.n it's not a physical chain. there is no reference to any horrifying episode in american history like slavery that's insane.

the principle is important one. 70%, 70% of all illegal -- legal immigrants into this country come through chain migration. family reunification. i don't care what they call it.'t principle is the same. we don't have any control over those people. we don't get to vet them or choose them and they come here because they are related to people already here. >> of course we do get to c vet them. they have to apply and have to get a visa and it takes 10 to 13 years to come here. c don't come here automatically. also important to note that the trump proposal limits all chain migration. so you can't bring in any family members other than your spouse or your children. >> tucker: i misspoke. you are absolutely right. we do get to vet them and do our best to make sure they are not members of isis. sometimes we fail on that. what i meant is we don't get to choose them.ha we don't get to say this is the most impressive possible person. the main criterion for relation is a blood relation already here. so it's not a good way to assemble a cast of all-stars. it's a good way to benefit immigrants but maybe not the whole country.

do you see what i mean? that's the majority of immigrants. why is that a good way to do it? that's just a simple question. >> first of all, it is the way we have done it for a very long time. for instance, president trump's mom. >> tucker: we have done it for a long time? >> we have done it that way for a long time. >> tucker: we have done a lot of things for a long time that's terrible. >> let me give you an apropos example. president trump's mom came from scotland in 1930. she came here because her sister was here. her sister sponsored her.e so she came through chain migration. >> tucker: i'm sorry. i just fell asleep and can't track this conversation. it is to immaterial. 70% of our immigrants come this way. it's simple question.pl have we done it for a longt time and have we benefited to it, do immigrants like it? i know the answer to all of those things. b is it the best way to choose your immigrants whether they happen to be related to somebody? would you staff your companyny that way? wait a minute, oh, you have a cousin in utica? he is hired.

it's not the best way to do anything, right?in >> not the only way people come here. now you are suggesting only way people. >> tucker: 70% of all legal immigrants. 70% majority come that way. why wouldn't we reassess that way? >> let's make this pragmatic. president trump's proposal is to limit chain migration just to spouses and children. now, the democrats have accepted that proposal with respect to the daca participants, the people who are dreamers who are going to get legal status in 10 to 12 years. that is a compromise. the republicans and president trump are now saying they want to eliminate all chain migration. that might be -- >> tucker: no. >> that might be too overbroad. give you example. engineer comes here from india. he comes to work for google. he is a law-abiding citizen, he is contributing to the economy. and he wants to bring his parents.o normally under the current system, eventually, he could bring his parents. this would eliminate that.t. and we have to think about is that really what we want to do?

do we want to eliminate all w people who come here for the type of people you are talking about to come on merit based reasons for bringing in their parents or their family. >> tucker: i understand why it would be a bad deal for the immigrants, but i thinkk there is another party whose interests should be represented and that's the rest of us. the question is, it's a real question. attempts by these members of congress to shout it down using terms like racist isn't helpful. doesn't help us. that should be a question,el too. it's not. is the immigrant helped by -- yeah, of course he is. he loves it. why wouldn't he? i'm for that. i i want to make him happy. why should i be for it? do you know what i mean? >> look, democrats should not be calling it racist. i don't agree that the term is racist. let me point out if we didn't have chain migration, president trump would not be here. so in that way, yes, i agree with you that chain migration has been harmful to america. >> tucker: david, thank you. we will ask you about the fbi memo another time.

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>> tucker: time now for final exam, where we troll the hallways of fox news to find the smartest people, bring them here for a titanic clash of news personalities.w l this week's two-time defending champion is carley shimkus, fox news headline 24-7 reporter and contributor to "fox & friends." her challenger is the political editor of town hall and a fox news contributor, guy benson. smart people both, and ferociously competitive. are you ready? >> ready. born ready. >> tucker: you are the reigning champion. and guy has come in to dethrone you. >> i would like to cling on to that title. >> tucker: okay, good. we'll see. hands on buzzers. here are the rules. i'm telling you so there are no mistakes. i ask the questions. the first one to buzz in gets to answer. you have to wait until i finish

asking the question before do you. each correct answer is worth one point. get it wrong, you lose a point. best of five wins. are you ready? >> ready. >> tucker: let's get started. the white house recently asked the guggenheim to borrow a painting by vincent van gogh, the famous one-eared dutch painter. the museum declined, instead offered president trump which piece of so-called art? carley? >> a 18-karat gold toilet. >> tucker: i don't believe you. that's too grotesque. we'll check the tape. >> an 18-karat fully functioning gold toilet. this work of art had been displayed in a public restroom at the guggenheim and it had been used by thousands of people. >> tucker: how did you know 18 karat? >> the old noggin. >> tucker: we don't deal in that currency here. >> gold toilet is impressive enough. >> i appreciate that from guy. very smart man. >> tucker: this week for the first time in 150 years, a blue

moon, a super moon and lunar eclipse occurred simultaneously on the same night. there is a name for this phenomenon. what is it? guy benson? >> it is a super blue bloodd moon. >> tucker: that's too weird but let's see if you are right. to the tape.ke >> you are looking at the super blue blood moon. first time we have seen this in the u.s. in more than 150 years. here is what it looks like t right here above new york. >> that's cool. >> really cool. >> tucker: how did you know that? >> because someone made the joke that i'm sort of blue-blooded and so this is my moon. >> wow. >> this speaks to you, too. i don't know. >> tucker: no. i see a super blue blood bad moon rising, that kind of thing? >> a little ccr. >> tucker: question number three, multiple choice, at 1 1 hour and 20 minutes president trump's state of the union address was long but it was not the longest in history. which former president still holds that title? is it bill clinton,

george w. bush or barack h. obama? guy benson? >> bill clinton. >> tucker: are you sure? >> i think so. >> tucker: boy, no equivocating in your answers. is it bill clinton? >> the hour and 20 minute speech, the third longest state of the union ever, m behind two bill clinton speeches.ge >> oh. >> tucker: he has spots one and two? >> one and two, yeah. >> tucker: wow, that's clintonian. i'm not surprised, actually. >> obama, i felt like. >> tucker: i know. i know. he was a wordy character but no one beats clinton in that category. one democratic congresswoman is so offended by president trump, she says a parental advisory ought to be aired before his speeches. who is this congresswoman? >> maxine waters. >> maxine waters of los angeles. >> yes. >> tucker: is it maxine waters? >> this president, with his vulgarity and his disrespect for women and people of color, is a terrible role model for our children.

whenever he appears on tv, there should be a disclaimer that says "this may not be acceptable for children." >> yes. that's not extreme. >> tucker: no. >> totally sane. >> tucker: are we two to two? >> we are. >> tucker: we are. judges confirmed that. two to two. this is the tie breaker. question five, t final question. palms are sweating. okay, here it is. a video of a rat, the rodent,, went viral this week because the rat was caught doing something pretty extraordinary. what was the rat doing? the rat was doing something extraordinary. >> an actual -- >> this is going to be risky because i know i would be docked a point. >> tucker: in fact, indeed, you would lose. you have pressed. >> so i have to answer. there is something in the back of my mind that says that i read something about something to do with a cigarette. he had a cigarette.n not pizza rat. >> pizza rat was years ago..

>> tucker: was the rat smoking a cigarette? roll your own counts too. any kind of cigarette waswn the rat smoking? >> really important that you properly clean.? especially if you are kind of hairy, like this fellow. look at him preparing for his date. he is getting all the important spots. he is looking forward to it. g just got out of a bad marriage. and he just met somebody online. >> is he bathing. >> just a mouse click away. >> come on, man. [buzzer] >> cutest rat ever. >> tucker: not a dirty habit but a clean habit. bold. >> i want to see the video of the ratat smoking a cigarette. >> i saw something might have been a joke based t on that. someone tweeted something. >> tucker: it was a bold guest, in the end it did not pay off. >> thank you so much. >> tucker: carley shimkus, you remain for the third week in a row. it's unbelievable. again, the coveted mouth-breathing mug.

>> my cupboards are full. >> tucker: give them to your friends. >> that was great. >> thank you so much. >> tucker: pay attention to the news each and every week. tune in every thursday to compete against our contestants. the show is far from over. stay tuned. y, big thinking in the finger lakes is pushing the new new york forward. we're the number one dairy and apple producers in the eastern united states supported by innovative packaging that extends the shelf life of foods and infrastructure upgrades that help us share our produce with the world. all across new york state, we're building the new new york. to grow your business with us in new york state, visit esd.ny.gov

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>> tucker: introductory macroeconomics doesn't sound like a political class. professor spencer pack decided any discussion of economics would be incomplete without a large helping of political views.s. in syllabus, he included a trigger alert. "i will try to present different economic theories. i find conservative classical theories to be pretty inadequate in explaining the economic benefits of the last decade. moreover, i think ourpl

current president is mentally ill, a pathological liar. very dangerous. students who are upset with my views may want to consider taking introductory macroeconomics from another professor." if you did disagree with pack, would you speak up in class? probably not after he dismissed your views as proto-fascist. we contacted connecticut college for a statement and got the boilerplate. "we value different viewpoints and encourage dialogue in the classroom," blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. they mean none of it. who believes this crap? nobody. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ you make my heart sing ♪ ♪ you make everything groovy

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for real, the fbi memo comes as many members of congress are predicting,pr it will, we'll be here live to cover it and interpreted and bring you new information on it. 29, 8:00, they show that is the sworn enemy of lying, verbosity, and groupthink. >> sean: breaking right now, president trump has read the classified memo showing stunning fisa abuses against his campaign and it will likely be released as early as tomorrow. also tonight, #metoo's john solomon reporting that republicans are looking to make the case that the so-called rusn investigation was based on "politically tainted evidence tied to clinton loyalists. we'll explain. and meanwhile, an all-out war on what is the truth and transparency being waged right here in the united states of america. fierce, unfair opposition mountingng to conceal and coverp one of the biggest scandals in the history of this