last night pink was battling a cold and sang the national anthem. she did a great job. watch. >> ♪ >> [cheers and applause]. >> ♪ >> tucker: welcome to tucker carlson. donald trump, jr. will be here in a minute. first devin nunes's 4 page memo won't be the last declassed document to shake up congress. the democratic memo will be released. we should be able to see the new memo soon. no matter what it says, that's probably a good thing for everybody. for the first time of in generations, americans have reason to believe that our intelligence and law enforcement agencies misused the powers we have given them violating the

civil liberties of americans and taking sides in the political contests. you can't trust a government that would do that and many americans don't. that's a disaster in a democracy where trust is key. transparency is the only antidote to that. release all documents and let us decide what they mean. maybe that will make us trust the government again. democrats disagree. last week party leaders and the media were yelling at us about how releasing the nunes memo would constitute a deadly threat to america. then the memo came out. whatever you think of the mem's conclusions, you have to concede there was not a single thing in there you should not have been allowed to see. no classified weapons discussed or names of secret agents revealed. democrats didn't want it released because it might embarrass them. we spoke to a california

congressman a member of the house intelligence committee. none of this should have been secret. why did you fight to keep it hidden? he didn't answer that. he accused of us betraying our country. >> in the case of today's memo, what specifically have i e espoused that is a threat to our country? >> you are putting out the puttin narrative because they are re-tweeting this. whose bidding are you really doing? >> tucker: whose bidding are you really doing? so for wanting to see the memo, we are treason agents of vladimir putin. you probably read about the

mccarthy error where congress made base will claims of foreign collusion and destroyed lives of american citizens. you probably didn't think you would live to see it happen again but it has. we spoke to adam schiff of california and asked him: what evidence do you have that the russian government hacked john podesta's email account. here's what happened. can you say i know for a fact the government of vladimir putin was behind the hacks of podesta? >> absolutely. >> tucker: of john podesta's emails? >> and also in europe. >> tucker: you are dodging this. >> ronald reagan -- you are carrying water for the kremlin.

>> tucker: look. [overlapping talking]. e >> you will have to move your show to russian television. >> tucker: carrying water for the kremlin. treason in a single year, we have been accused of betraying our own country by 20 democrats on the house intelligence committee. part is politics of the most cynical kind. the democratic base has been fed russian conspiracy theories for months. within hours of appearing on this show eric was raising money on our attack on the rule of law. it makes it kind of sense in a sleazy washington way. what if these guys are starting to believe the lies they tell? in a speech last week, adam

schiff accused russia of a crime. >> the russian are big fans of our second amendment. they don't want one of their own, but they are really glad we have one. >> tucker: how determined are the russian to destroy american democracy? so determined said congressman schiff that will attempt to promote our own bill of rights. this is demented. there is no other word for it. it grows from the ruling class's unwillingness to face the results of last year's election and they blame russ. what cost of all of this?

schiff is a member of one of the most important committees in the congress. they are supposed to be sober and thoughtful and smart. they are not. if you ask an uncomfortable question they accuse you of working for a hostile foreign dictator. that's a death penalty offense. they claim trump is too irspinelle to rule. but they are more irresponsible and they are poised to take power. 9 months from right now, at the mid-terms, they may. chances are they will be running congress again. these people. the ones who accused fellow americans of treason and mock civil liberties. they will number charge. adam schiff will be chairman of the intel committee. there was an incentive for

republicans to get their act together fast you just saw is. mark stein joins us tonight. you have written about the russian government over the decades. did you ever support they were clever enough to promote our own bill of rights against us? >> no. they do play the long game, the russians. to talk up the second amendment -- if i follow schiff's argument, they are talking it up so we all shoot each other which will save the russians the trouble. this is brilliant. congressman, he accused of you mccarthy tactics when he is the one saying you worked for the kremlin. this is so nuts. he said also that you are attacking the rule of law. the reason some of us are upset

about this is because what is going on is an assault on the rule of law. an american citizen who hasn't been convicted of any crime and has never even been charged with one, has nevertheless been under united states surveillance on and off for half a decade. this guy's life and reputation was ruined. the democrats are okay with that because he is just this week's useful distraction from the russian vchtion. -- investigation. it reminds us of an important lesson. there is a point at which there is a legitimate intelligence community and then it becomes secret police activities. what they have done to this u.s. citizen carter page crosses well

into the line, i believe, of secret police activities. >> tucker: it's something that has shaken people's faith in the system. it's a system you want to believe in. your population needs to believe in for the country to function. i wonder, though, is this a dream we will wake up from. 20 years from now replaying the schiff tape and say there was a congressman who accused anyone who disagreed with him of working for a foreign power. or will they not recover? >> i would like to think so. like hollywood gets it right 40 years afterward that the elderly tom hanks and george clooney will be lining up to play adam schiff in movies and meryl streep will play the outrageous nancy pelosi as she says that

congressman nunes broke the laws of congress and should be going to jail for it. at heart, democrats are doing this because this is not just a few rogue elements of the bureaucracy. the 2 most powerful factions in the democratic establishment, the obama administration and the clinton campaign were also tied up with this every step of the way including whatever his title is -- the assistant deputy under the secretary of state. this guy weiner who was big buddies with christopher steele on this. christopher steele himself is a very unusual figure cho who supposed retired from mi-6 at the age of 44 and is described in this memo as a long-time asset of the fbi.

that's a breach of the intelligence sharing arrangement between the united states and british commonwealth. there are a lot of very weird, sinister aspects. the democrats should stop throwing distractions in the path by accusing you of being a russian agent. >> tucker: how dare you ask questions? >> no. i am a kremlin agent too. >> tucker: thank, mark. adam schiff lost it as we just said. when comes to russia he tried to claim that the release of last friday's memo would result more oklahoma city style terror attacks. >> sources of information will dry up. in a neighbor is buying fertilizer and they don't have a yard, will you think twice

before calling the fbi. if they get a search warrant for your neighbor and the political winds change and this investigation, your identity will be revealed because you can't trust that this will be kept confidential anymore. >> tucker: i don't know the context of that interview. that's too much. if you support more transparency you are handing a truck bomb to mcveigh. richard, without debating the details of this. both of us have seen the nunes memo. neither one of us could point to anything that imperilled america. then you have this person saying

that. >> the fbi and the justice department thought there was a problem with it. one of their senior people wrote a letter saying please do not release the memo. >> tucker: on what grounds? >> you have to ask them. >> tucker: i did and they believed if there were declassified, they would have to declassify other stuff. you have to declassify everything unless you it imperles american national security. they don't like declassifying stuff because it detracts from their power which is clouded in secrecy. how should i take a lecture from schiff about how i am tim mcveigh when i just want to seat memo? >> everybody believes that getting classified material out that should not be is a problem. tell over time degrease the willingness of people to cooperate.

>> tucker: i believe that. if you can show that releasing something hurts the country, i am against releasing it. but what about this memo hurt our country? >> the solution is to have the trump campaign not have hired a russian agent. i am sorry. >> tucker: who is the russian agent? >> when the rosenbergs were giving secrets to the russian. >> tucker: hold on. hold on. you are conceding the rosenberg's guilty? the left defended them. the russians were the favorite state of american left for 70 years. they want to be clear. they defended the rosenberging up until now. which russian agent did they hire? they didn't hire carter page. >> they paid him 6 figures of

money to give speeches including one bashing the united states in 2016 at the time donald trump said he was one of my 5 advisors. >> tucker: he is a russian agent? saying anybody that does a business transaction -- giving a speech for money is a transaction. >> in 2013 it was more than just giving speeches for money. going back to his college thesis, he was pro-russia. you are talking making fun of the left. >> tucker: that's not fine. if you like russia you are anti-america? >> no, giving a speech in the kremlin bashing the united states. it's not a business transaction. the back drop of the presidential candidate saying yes, he is one of my five people with papadopoulos giving meow advice. >> tucker: the trump campaign

didn't really have a campaign. >> he said it. >> tucker: i don't think it seriously. if he is attacking the united states on foreign soil, i would never defend that. that doesn't mean he is a spy. if he is, arrest him. >> that's why they were doing surveillance on him. >> tucker: did they charge him? no. they just impugned his reputation. >> let's see if mueller gives carter page a clean bill of health. >> tucker: you can concede in legal terms a clean bill of health is not charging somebody? his job is to charge somebody or not. we are not interested in mueller's views in morality. we are interested in his legal judgment. if carter page is not charged would you apologize for having the federal government destroy his life?

>> it's john mccain who is saying what they are doing is carrying out the puttin -- >> tucker: it's ludicrous what john mccain is saying. good to see you. donald trump, jr. is joining us to discuss the aftermath of the release of friday's memo. that's next. ♪ when you have a cold, stuff happens. [ dog groans ] [ coughs and sneezes ] nothing relieves more symptoms than alka seltzer plus maximum strength liquid gels.

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in proof that the entire russian investigation is built on a foundation of sand. donald trump, jr. joins us tonight. what was your reaction to the memo? what is the take a way? >> that americans should be scared about what is going on. you don't think of this happening in the united states. you don't think of this happening in a country where we have a foundation of laws and principles grounded in the constitution. this is a clear violation of that. the court that no one knows about hazardly granting full surveillance of american citizens, in this case the elected president of the united states, based on shady information paid for by the opposition party candidate in that presidential race. this is crazy stuff. >> tucker: it seems outside of the bonds of what the law was written to allow. it is allowed under the law and

that law was reauthorized by the republican controlled congress with little debate. why? >> i don't know. i think they want to re-visit that. as an american citizen to see this stuff going on, to try to subvert democracy this way based on these people who are so bi biassed, that's scary. it's one thing if you are doing it in a bipartisan system, but that's not at all what we want have here. >> tucker: all of the things we are talking about were allegedly committeed by employees of the executive branch which is now the trump executive branch. how do you fix this? >> i don't know. i think we have to open everything up. listen to the democratic memo. i am sure that will be a winner given the fact that schiff is doing this. we have been in a one sided

battle. republicans can have their talking points and there is bias there as well. when the mainstream media is willing to go to battle for anything the other side says and say, that is the gospel. that's where it gets scary. open it all up. let's see the fisa court transcripts and everything that went into this. i think once all of that comes out, not just the rebuttal they had weeks to say, this is how we will counter it, but let's see the court transcripts. i want to know what that judge saw when they re-authorized it. it was based on carter page and re-authorized after he was not even a part of the campaign anymore. what is their basis for the on-going investigation? >> tucker: the rebuttal schiff memo that the house intelligence

committee voted to declassify. that will go to the president. hopefully we will all get to see it soon. they didn't applaud the declassification of the nunes memo? was it strikeing to see reporters argue for more secrecy? >> i had a feeling they would. it was the first time in history where i am watching the media argue for less information. touting the talking points. this will make it difficult to investigate people! we will be giving up trade secrets. i didn't see any of that in the memo but those were the schiff talking points to prevent it from coming out. the media was willing to make sure everyone knew the sky was falling if this memo was released. >> tucker: none of the people had seen the memo?

>> who knows what they knew or what they had seen? it's not like there have not been leaks from various members who were part of that and had seen it. i would not be surprised in they did know. >> tucker: your take on carter page at the center of that memo which described how the federal government spied on him? >> i think it's ridiculous. this is a low level person who worked on the campaign. there was an email that this person is no longer working on the campaign. one family member said who is the heck is that individual? to did that to attack the elected president after that person is no longer part of the campaign. everybody wants to be a part of

somebody. the reality is he was not a real player in the campaign. to utilize that person. makes him a great patsy for that. the reality of the situation answer we had an investigation going on for over 2 years where there is zero evident. we haven't seen any investigations into all of the shade, all of the stuff going on with our opponent that were actual, real things that happened. that she was involved in. there is not even an investigation. but you can take a fringe person on a campaign. utilize that to get all of these fisa warrants to spy on somebody who becomes the president of the united states. i mean, what about this? did is reek of a banana

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shutdown. senator john mccain released his idea of an immigration compromise. his bill would provide amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants in return for zero concessions. no wall. it's an absurd idea that nobody stays seriously including the white house. where are we? what is the state of play and where are we going. this is the executive director of the national immigration forum and joins us tonight. i think it's a baffling position that the left is in right now. trump said i will give you 3 million new democratic voters. all you have to do is build a wall which you say doesn't work anyway. what is wrong with that? >> i would have ask the same question. the president turned down deals over the past month that offered that. i think the president deserves credit for putting his cards on the table. senators mccain and coons did

that today. the president can do something that neither president obama nor president bush could do. the deal is there. he has to close it. >> tucker: the stumbling block is the wall. people against the wall are for more illegal immigrants. but they argue that the wall is ineffective. mexico argues the wall won't work. why are they mad about? >> i want a secure border that keeps us safe. i want the american taxpayer for their money to be used the right way. the right solution is a combination of technology and infrastructure. >> tucker: i don't believe you. >> why not? >> tucker: we are talking $20

million. >> you don't believe that i carry about the security and the american taxpayer? >> tucker: not at wall. talking about $20 billion on the wall and people don't care about spending in any other part of government don't want it. >> we should do the tucker carlson deal. protect dreamers and build the wall. >> tucker: trump just offered to give millions of so-called dreamers citizenship. not just legal status. they can vote in exchange for the wall. the left hates the wall because it's a permanent solution. you could take them down. you could hire more agents. >> we are if favor of a narrow solution like you are talking

about: protecting dreamers and the border. >> tucker: are not. you are for borders for that can repealed. you would be for a wall? >> if the border patrol along that are on the experts on the border saying we need a wall in this place, let's do that. >> tucker: they make decisions? >> i am in favor of experts make policy. >> tucker: but there is america. the public gets to make policy and they voted for a wall. >> we want experts on the border to make right decisions. some will say we need a wall. >> tucker: you think a border patrol agent or an expert should have more authority than voters in a democracy? how does that work? >> someone who has 30 years of protecting our nation knows how

to protect. >> tucker: why have elections at all? >> because you have a policy maker. >> tucker: we elected a reality tv star who wanted to build a wall and they voted for that and he won. in washington, we are saying you don't get a wall. you don't know enough. that's not really a real democracy? >> we want our experts to protect the public and the american taxpayer. >> tucker: you are comfortable with ignoring voters? >> the voters have spoken. they elected donald trump. he is our president. >> tucker: what did he run on? >> on securing the borders. >> tucker: no, he ran on the wall. anything short of that -- maybe

you disagree. they won. why wouldn't they get what they want if this is really a democracy? and the voters are immaterial. >> if you disrespect their expertise. >> tucker: okay. thanks for coming on today. i appreciate it. the vegas shooting took place more than 4 months ago. why is the coroner refusing a court order to release an autopsy of the shooter. that's next. copd makes it hard to breathe.

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>> tucker: strange circumstances continue to swirl around the las vegas shooting 4 months ago.

the latest. the clark county coroner refuseed to release the autopsies of 58 shooting victims in response to a court order, but refuseed to release the autopsy of shooter stephen paddock. he claims the autopsy is still being finalized after all of this time. doctor, this seems like a weird ecplanition. you have perspective. >> coroners and medical examiners have to obey judicial order, period. it may be a situation where the autopsy findings may be important in a criminal investigation that the district attorney or the fbi asked to hold off the release so it doesn't interfere with their investigation. that sounds unlikely in this situation. >> tucker: they are saying this was a single shooter event and

have not suggested there is anything we don't know about. what could be the connection between the autopsy results and the continuing investigation? >> especially when the body has been cremated as a understand. i can't think of a reason under these circumstances where all of the other autopsy have been released as a result of the judicial order, the court are the. why this one would not be. >> tucker: what would we learn of interest from an autopsy? >> well, it's interesting when you have 58 people die, who seem to have been shot. why do autopsies at all? one of the reasons is to recover all of the bullets that were fired. to find if there is a bullet that came from a weapon that was not in the potion of the shooter. to see if there was a second

shooter possibly would be one of the reasons. the bullet we leave behind is the bullet that comes from a different gun. that's one reason for the autopsy. the others, in some jurisdictions not everybody is autopsied if the shooting obviously causes the death. in this situation all bodies should be autopsied and all of the injuries identified and the issues will come up of pain and suffering. maybe some people died from the stampede getting out rather than of a bullet. >> tucker: of course. but in the case of the shooter, we were told by authorities he was the only one in the hotel room and the only one firing a weapon and died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

those seem like the [inaudible question]s. they are hiding the autopsy, what would be their motive? >> if there were some issues and they were doing some studies on the brain of the decedent. all of the information coming out about childhood trauma. was there a brain issue that may have been contributeed to his bizarre behavior? they may still be looking for certain special stains and chemial analysis of the brain. that could be the reason it's not completed. usual the reason the autopsy is not immediately released to the next of kin it to do the analysis to find if this was any toxicology reason. but the time has passed now since october 1st, any

toxicology examination would have been done. it's unlikely there is a good reason not to release the paddock to the next of kin. not necessarily to the -- >> tucker: i get it. there is something weird going on. thank you. appreciate it. >> good to talk to you. >> tucker: a church congregation in washington says god should not have a gender. a priest behind these changes joins us next. [drip. drip.] need a change of scenery? kayak searches hundreds of travel and hotel sites so you can be confident

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refer to our guardian in heaven. they passed 3 regulations. full acceptance of trans-gend trans-genderism. the priest in charge of the episcopal church in washington proposed 2 resolutions and joins us tonight. father, thanks for coming on. this raises a lot of question. one is about the many millions of episcopals who did not believe anything that you proposed. were they bigots? >> no, if you are referring to the decline in membership. >> tucker: i am not referring to that. the idea that gendered language should be removed. that's a very new idea.

>> that's not exactly what it says. the resolution says draw on multiple images of god, masculine and feminine and wide diversity that is found in scripture. if we decide to re-write our prayers, we want to draw on that. we don't want to take arkansas way anything. -- we want to draw on that. >> tucker: the story of adam and eve is a very gendered story. god created a man and a woman. just those two. it's from that model that christians understand gender and sex. >> there is another genesis story where god creates adam and a helper and eve is not identified as a gender until

chapter 3. >> tucker: do you think eve might not be a woman? >> i wasn't there. >> tucker: was there any evidence that she wasn't? >> the important thing is god is beyond gerund. when we talk about god we use language. it's limitless that we are trying to get our heads around. language is all we have to do that. we want to limit the language we want to use. >> tucker: i don't think that's crazy. >> well, thank you. >> tucker: a see a church that embraces that any left wingcause. if i put the page up against your prourts, they are identityial. i see a church whose membership collapsed. i wonder if embracing left wingpolitics has been bad for the church. >> i don't think you can compare

us. what i saw when we got together, faithful christians who prayed together. we have a wonderful sermon from a baptist minister who encouraged us to follow jesus. i don't do these things of my political leanings. i do these things because i am faithfully following jesus who calls us to reach out to people on the margins and to reach out to everyone. >> tucker: i embrace that. i think sincere christians can be liberal. >> and i believe sincere christians can be conservative. >> tucker: i drive by your church and sees things attacking trump. when i was baptized in the episcopal church there were a lot more members.

>> even as the city has grown. >> tucker: maybe this political message is not what people are looking for. >> i don't believe it's a political message. what we are selling is trying to more faithfully follow jesus. membership is a complicated thing. membership has declined across denominations, not just the episcopal church. we need to keep that in mind. >> tucker: that's absolutely true. some denominations have grown. none has dropped faster than the episcopal church. >> tucker, as a christian and your christian viewers, we should be worried about people not attending churches. >> tucker: i could not agree more. when i go to church and it literally could paul reading this week's editor, i could get that at work.

maybe politics kills the spir spiritual people? >> come to our church any sunday. >> tucker: there are about 75 people there and that makes may sad. >> we are continuing to grow. they are looking for a church that is not judgmental. >> tucker: you have a sign attacking people on the basis of gun control and the president. >> that's not what the sign says. >> tucker: i drive by it every day. >> my favorite banner is jesus said i never said i hated anyone. >> tucker: that's good. thanks for joining us. new exclusive reporting on this show this week. a preview next. it's time for the 'ultimate sleep number event' on the only bed that adjusts on both sides to your ideal comfort, your sleep number setting. and snoring?

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