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make the government shutdown official. most-watched, most trusted, most grateful you spent the evening with us. good night from washington. for now, i am shannon bream. ♪ >> shannon: this is a fox news alert. the clock strikes midnight, for the second time this year, we are facing a partial government shutdown. the vote from a senate on the massive two your budget deal to attach to a short-term funding bill was expected earlier today but the vote was held up by kentucky senator republican rand paul. he's been demanding a vote on an amendment to keep budget caps in place. leadership tried to make a deal with the senator while others came to the floor to complain, accusing paul of showboating, and effectively shutting down the government. it's official. the government, all of this is going on as the white house office of management and budget has directed federal agencies to prepare for a lapse in funding. the senate right now is coming
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back into session and is expected to vote to end debate on the budget bill. the final vote on the bill is expected to take place we think after 2:00 a.m. this morning and then it's over to the house. here is what the mass looks like. fox news is told 150 republicans, 70 democrats to cross the finish line. house members have been told to prepare for votes between 3:00 and 6:00 a.m. eastern time. liberals led by house minority leader nancy pelosi are protesting a lack of protection for illegal immigrants brought to the u.s. as children. house republicans have raised concerns over spending caps, as well. this is far from being a done deal. the house freedom caucus, the chamber is fiscally conservative wing, also opposes the bill out of concerns that it will further increase the nation's debt. everyone agrees that it's what it's going to happen. debate over those contentious issues will continue well into the early hours of the morning with a final vote we think around 6:00 a.m. eastern time. that is when we will learn if congress can muster the votes to keep the government open.
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stay with fox news. we are following the developments throughout the night. you see they are going back live in the senate. we'll keep you updated, we'll take you back to regular programming but check back here throughout the night for updates on the shutdown. it's official. >> tucker: t they should be grateful for the opportunity country has given her family especially considering where they came from. no. when she's not grateful, she hates oureo country, and the people who founded it. during a demonstration yesterday in washington, she denounced america, then went on to attack senate minority leader for the color of his skin. watch this. >> i'm talking to chuck schumer, who is also from brooklyn. i'm tired of white men negotiating on the backs of community of color andbu communities like ours. but i also remember that this is a country that was founded on the extermination of indigenous people.
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this is always been a vocation but now they are asking us and kicking people in the middle of the night. >> tucker: noticed the cheers from the crowd. a lot of people agree with linda sarsour and i should make you nervous. we've invited millions and millions of people in to mic into this country in recent years. there are no more immigrants in america right now than at any time in the history of the country. as america more united than ever before? is a stronger? please. it's just the opposite. everyone knows that. maybe that's because a release welcome immigrants by telling them how horrible america is and how bigoted its native population. immigrants believe that. why wouldn't they? it's not their fault. it's ours. we are creating a lot of linda sarsours. it's a recipe for civil war. diverse countries need a reason to stick together, they don't do it organically. elites are to stay up every night trying to figure out what that reason is, why should we
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hang up together? a shared language, shared culture, shared set of core beliefs? pick one. our ruling class rejects all of those. shut up and say thank you, that is their answer. it won't end well. ivan sanchez is a democratic congressional candidate in texas. thank you for coming on, mr. sanchez. >> thank you so much for allowing us to practice democracy and allowing the other side of the aisle to say a few words. >> tucker: amen. we do every night. i believe met with total sincerity. i want to hear it. maybe we'll agree on this. tell me your response when you hear a child of immigrants say to a room full of people here illegally, immigrants, this country was founded on the extermination of indigenous peoples. does that bother you? >> i believe we are a country of immigrants, right? everyone from all over the world came here and are still coming here, but we did in essence
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force ourselves in to create the greatest country the world has ever seen. >> tucker: i guess -- i'm not an emigrant, might we are not all immigrants but there's a lot of immigrants and i think -- you are, great. i think a lot of them are good people. i think it is really important that they become part of this country, and in order to do that, you have to love the country. does it bother you when someone that immigrants listen to, like linda sarsour, says this is a bad country run by racists, and his history is inherently racist? it's built on murdering people. do you believe that? >> i think they are frustrating about the lack of representation in congress and legislators. my friend, i am basically a dream or her with papers. i was brought to this country at 16 years old through no fault of my own. my mother was a prosecutor attorney and my father in the
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country of: we had my was kidnapped and my mother's office was blown up so my letter came saying the next time you put your kid in a school bus, they are not coming. so we landed here, i was sold on the idea that we were coming to see disneyland and bill clinton and we have to start all over. >> tucker: i will stop you there. it's familiar and a great story, that i'm in favor of that story. i just want to get -- the details matter to be. i'm an american citizen, like you. you said they don't have representation. do you think people who aren't citizens deserve representation in congress? >> i think they are humans and everyone deserves respect and dignity, definitely. i have no idea -- >> tucker: that wasn't my question. hold on. do people who are not american citizens deserve to be represented in the congress of united states? you suggested they were.
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>> that they deserve a voice. i think even if -- >> tucker: why would they deserve a voice? hold on. i'm just asking you, people who are not american citizens deserve to be heard by congress, does not include people living in namibia or norway or iceland? is the world deserve a voice in congress? the american understanding is that congress for american citizens. that is what democracy is. >> the people that are definitely contributing to our society and live in our neighborhoods definitely deserve a voice. and you know, if we go -- >> tucker: so you don't need to be a citizen to be represented by the congress? >> of course you do. but there are people that have been living here for longer times that i have, and pay taxes, and take their kids to school, and contribute to
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society, and -- >> tucker: i'm not attacking immigrants. if you are going to have a country, you got to figure out what it means. >> the number one country in the world, that is what we want to do. this country provided us opportunity. how beautiful is that? we want to make sure that this country will progress. we want to stay number one in the world and there's china -- >> tucker: i believe that. slow down. i won't let you give your speech because i probably agree with a lot of it. i want to remain number one, too. before we as americans lead people become citizens and voted in our elections, and get representative in congress, should we ask them to agree with what is in the constitution and speak english? >> the thing is that the last immigration policy we had is older than my internet or computers. it's very outdated. if you want to legally immigrate from mexico or india -- >> tucker: i'm sorry. i will press you to answer my question, which is, should we ask that immigrants come before
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they come citizens, speak english well and agree with the constitution? >> i agree that they need to learn the language, like i have, and of course, follow the law. but at times, just like my mother, she came here to the united states the united states all of a sudden, a lot of people cannot wait 25 years to immigrate. their lives depend on it. >> tucker: it's not up to them them. >> if their family's live is in danger, would you wait? >> tucker: people's lives are a danger around the world but why does that mean they have ha right to love in my country? >> this is -- this country was founded on immigration. >> tucker: no, it wasn't, actually. it wasn't founded as a haven for the rest of the world, whatever the poem says. that's not true. where did they get that right? why do they have a right to move here if their lives are in danger? >> we are the most caring nation
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in the world. we have asylum and that is one of the ways that i came. this is not about even -- deporting these people would hurt our economy significantly. deporting dreamers, we would spend -- >> tucker: that's a whole other debate and i don't know if you are prepared for that. thanks a lot for coming on. i appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: victor davis hanson is a fellow at the hoover and wow institution, a professor emeritus at he joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. >> thank you for having me, tucker. >> tucker: so my concern is how does a country of 320 million people who don't have much in common with each other hang together? what's the answer to that? >> we have to have a common set of values. we have to share in the constitution. we are a great experiment. it's never been tried before after the founding of the
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united states. we are a multiracial society but we have one common culture. our appearance has to be incidental to our character. it's nonessential. if we all start going into tribal clicks then there is no unification. that is what is happening now. i felt bad for your guest but my gosh, it is not a miracle that is giving empowerment to the working entry level classes. it's also a radical curtailment and illegal immigration. for the first time, unemployment may be in peace time below 4%. employers have to compete now. they've got to go to the inner city, to red state, poor whites, they say you are the only game in town and they have leverage and how does my wages are going up after decades. >> tucker: maybe we will do something to improve schools when we import the labor source from abroad. what you said is so sensible and obvious if anyone thinks about it. if you have a country divided by tribe, it will be at war with
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itself. why are our elites encouraging it? >> you had a perfect example in the entry-level remarks. mrs. sarsour represents the identity politics left, where she wants a demographic that she thinks it's white or nonwhite. it's almost like we have to have dna badges. she will be the collective the collective representative of all the oppressed nonwhite people for her purposes. i admire george w. bush but he inadvertently got himself into a situation where he is a spokesman for cheap labor. he goes overseas and violates churchill's dictum, you never criticize the incumbent president on foreign soil. then he says we need cheap labor. you think, who needs cheap labor? he said something and it's very tragic. he says we need people to pick cotton in 105-degree weather and i am thinking, cotton picking has been recognized for 50 years and mechanization is increasing as immigration decreases.
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that was the argument of the 19th century slave owner that said we need people from africa to pick cotton in 100-degree weather. it's not a good argument for it is not ethically on the right side of history. >> tucker: our ruling class has not updated perceptions in a few decades. thank you for joining us tonight come professor. i appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: a fox news alert. democratic senator mark warner of virginia, fox news has learned, texted with a russian oligarch lobbyist in an effort to contact the author of the trump dossier, christopher steele, because -- you can't make this up -- fox news' ed henry has a story and he joins us. >> good to see you. these texts obtained by fox news, they show, you can see them right here, senator mark warner, a democrat who's been leading one of the investigations of president trump's ties to russia, had extensive contact with that lobbyist for an oligarch who offered him access to steele, who wrote the dossier. warner texted that he would "rather not have a paper trail
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in case he could not seal an agreement with the former british spy to testify. steele so far has not agreed to interview with the senate intel panel. he began, warner did, texting with this lobbyist, adam steele, about getting testimony from russian billionaire deripraska, who had his bees that by the state department because of charges that he has ties to russian organized crime. warner wanted to connect with steele without anyone being in the loop. "we have so much to discuss, you need to be careful but we need to help our country" on march 22nd. "i'm in," waldman, who has ties to hillary clinton, texted back. warner sent another text. "we want to do this right. private in london, don't want to send letter yet because if we can get agreement, would rather not have paper trail." the senate intel panel got these texts from steele last september
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after they asked and a warner aide acknowledged that warner and richard burr revealed the texts because they realize that out of context, it doesn't look great for warner. but warner and burr stressed to fox the chairman of the committee, richard burr, was in the loop about all this. waldman did not return calls. he signed a $40,000 a month retainer in 2009 and 2010 to petition the u.s. government on behalf of that russian billionaire, supposed to have ties to paul manafort, which is why the committee wanted to get to him. remember, this investigation started with the various committees and are robert mueller looking at the president's ties to russians, now it's being turned around on democrats, talker. >> tucker: a little bit. doesn't look good. when a president said -- a senator said he doesn't want a paper trail, that's not good. thank you for that. a great story. >> thanks. >> tucker: and fbi informants as russia spent millions trying
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♪ >> tucker: one fbi informant says that russia spent millions of dollars attempting to influence the clintons. douglas campbell has been supplying the fbi with information since 2009. he says there was an extensive kickback and bribery scheme meant to secure approval of that famous rhenium deal. in testimony to three separate committees, campbell says the russia government spent millions
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through a lobbying firm to assist the global clinton initiative, they did this in the hope that the obama administration would then treat russia favorably on the deal. peter schweizer is the author of "clinton cash," and he joins us tonight. peter, it seems like it's a big story but this man at the center of it, campbell, can you explain his role in this? >> sure. campbell's a very interesting guy. he has a history that hints at some background either in the military or intelligence. he found himself in the mid- mid-2,000s, basically serving in this capacity with a russian firm as a consultant. they were paying him $50,000 a month to help things happen in washington, d.c., as a consultant. he saw what was happening, he became an informant for the fbi, and started sharing him
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information. what he is saying is that in this 2009-2010. max, when uranium one was beingd and finally approved by the obama administration, that the russians were funneling money through this lobbying firm in an effort to help that happen, and to benefit hillary clinton. he says he told the fbi about this back in 2010 and they basically tried to. ever since. >> tucker: interesting. what is so striking, the russians were concerned that the deal wasn't going to go through. we've been assured by all sorts of people that it was no big deal, it was authorized by all these different agencies, not controversial. but it was controversial. there were people who thought it was a bad idea to give any hour uranium to a russian company, were there? >> that's exactly right. take congressman kane from long island, the ranking member on the homeland security committee. he's not a pompadour by any
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means. he was opposed to this deal. the ranking republican on the house foreign affairs committee was opposed to this deal. senator of wyoming was opposed to this deal. all raising legitimate questions and concerns about it. this was a controversial deal outside the obama administration. but within the obama administration, there was very little debate and it was rammed through rather quickly. >> tucker: at this point, our research -- i don't want to get over our skis, reese are we cen that the russian government were lobbying the obama administration and the clintons to secure this deal? >> we know that the russians gave money to the firm $3 million. the russians according to campbell in audio and videotapes, that the fbi has, say that it was used for the purposes of uranium one.
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they are saying no, and that's part of the problem, all of this russian money is sloshing around washington, d.c. and it's not a surprise that there are a lot of people who are making money and a lot of people that are trying to do bidding for moscow, whether it was on uranium one or other issues. >> tucker: if you will pretend that russia is our greatest international threat, you have to be concerned about that but of course they're not because they are liars. peter, thank you. good to see you. >> tucker: thanks, tucker. >> tucker: macy's, the department store, is revealing a brand-new line of fashionable muslim garb. we'll ask the head of the new york branch of the national organization for women about whether this counts as a victory for feminism. stay tuned. ♪ ♪ no, please, please, oh!
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>> tucker: the muslim population of the west is rising very quickly and that has implications for social because he's in a national security but it's also influencing fashion. macy's has announced a new line of fashionable islamic garb. they're the latest retailer to drawing that trend. both nike and american eagle have lines like that. what does it mean? the national organization for women in new york city joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. >> happy to be here. >> tucker: this announcement
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was cheered by feminists, and it got me thinking, do you think that islam is a feminist religion? >> what i think is that religion, and every form throughout history, has oppressed women in many ways and islam isn't any different. i think what is striking to me about this new line of macy's is that muslim women in the united states have $44 billion in buying power, that's pretty spectacular. >> tucker: that's great. i'm all for buying power. i want to get back to the clothing and the applications. the point of islamic clothing is to promote modesty among women. for a bunch of different reasons. it's in the quran, it is the central part of islamic culture. do you think women should be coerced or dressed modestly? is that a feminist goal? >> what a feminist goal is is for women to be in control of
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their lives and their destinies and to have choices. so whether a woman wants to wear hijab or she doesn't is really not the point. what is interesting -- >> tucker: what do you mean? if i say, as islamic countries do, you don't have have a choiu have to wear the hijab, if you are not, you could get raped, you have to avert your gaze from men and not touch men? >> i was referring to the united states. what's really interesting, if you take a look at what's happening, here in the united states, you have women who had never dawned a hijab of their entire life and marched over to jfk airport at the time of the trump travel ban, and started wearing hijab because the symbol of resistance, and protested that, and at the same time, they are wearing them as a symbol of empowerment.
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at the same time, you have right now in iran, women who are bravely getting up on platforms and ripping off the hijab because it's compulsory there. they are risking their lives and being arrested. >> tucker: that's a separate conversation. i would agree with you. if macy's sold a new line of chinese foot binding shoes, with those we empower income too? >> i think it's a little bit different because that actually would damage your feet. you'd have to go to -- >> tucker: i don't know. all cosmetic procedures damage the body. all of them. that's not really an answer. if women set i find that empowering, just as i found find it empowering to wear clothing that millions of muslim women are forced to wear because they are women in order to be modest, that is somehow empowering. i'm wondering, -- >> it's not that simple. it's not black and white. for some women it is indeed
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empowering. and for others, it is not. it really is a matter of perspective as to where you are. let's talk about you. >> tucker: what about female genital mutilation? >> let's talk about american men in the subway with their suits and ties and 98 degrees. >> tucker: i feel bad for them too but for other reasons. >> you're letting society tell you how to dress. >> tucker: i'm trying to be open-minded because i'm an open-minded modern man, but the idea that a garment that a garment that a religion has forced them to wear for thousands of years, for some to be modest, somehow empowering for women, do you think that, for example, women are asked to walk behind their husbands or in some countries, they are not allowed to drive our boat, under certain circumstances, cannot be empowering? can female genital mutilation can be empowering?
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>> those are extreme examples that you trying to compare. >> tucker: no. they are all features of the same religion and they are all gender specific, so i don't know -- i think they are extreme, too but i think the hijab is extreme. and you don't and i don't know why. >> as i said, there are women who do find it empowering but most importantly, it is really not the top issue. i don't go to work every day and think about what wardrobes women are wearing and what it represents because they know enough -- >> tucker: i thought that was a huge part of women's liberation actually. >> i will tell you what a big part of women's liberation is making sure that the trump administration does not roll back our rights to full reproductive health. >> tucker: abortion, right. >> i go to work every day to think about how to close the wage gap -- >> tucker: i'm starting to think you care more about identity politics than women. just throwing it out there. if you're endorsing the hijab, maybe it's not really about women. it has not occurred to you? >> i'm not endorsing -- the only
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thing i'm endorsing with you and with all of your viewers is that discrimination is alive and well for women in this country. >> tucker: in the form of the hijab, just to name on. >> no, it's alive and well more certainly -- in the workplace. we need to end sexual harassment in the workplace. >> tucker: and the hijab come too. >> if those women can do that while wearing a hijab, more power to them. >> tucker: foot binding, whatever it takes. thank you so much. great to see you. >> thank you. it's been fun. >> tucker: america appears to be getting sucked into a war in syria, the shooting started last night way did you know that? most people didn't. will this help you? will it help america and anyway? we'll talk to someone who supports it. we'll be right back. ♪ -if you told me a year ago where i'd be right now...
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particular tuck we have an update for you on red light cameras, >> tucker: we have an update
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on red light cameras, the unconstitutional greed inspired disaster that have invaded many american cities in case you haven't noticed. last night we welcome arizona representative travis grantham, bravely tryingse to ban red ligt cameras and his date. today the arizona house blessedly improved his bill 31-27 and goes to the state senate in arizona. of course, our well wishes on fervent prayers are with travis grantham in his efforts. since 2001, americans have spent thousands of lives and trillions of dollars in afghanistan, iraq, libya, yemen, pakistan, and whole bunch of other countries. hard to find aa single person that thinks america is richer or happier because of it. are not -- american -- is happening in syria. you probably didn't know about it because it wasn't reported much. some white house personnel thing took precedence but last night,
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the u.s. conducted air strikes on syrian government forces and said it was in response to an attack on u.s.-based forces. without muchch of a debate, we appear to be sucked into another war in syria. michael a walz is a republican candidate for congress in florida. he joined u us tonight. thanks a lot for coming on. i appreciate it. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: i realize these things are complicated, that's the nature of them. their upsides and downsides. if you take three steps back, the life expectancy in the united states dress went down for the second year in a row. a lot of hurting people in this countrys. how does getting i involved in a war in syria -- we are involved in a war in syria -- help americans in any way? >> tucker, we need to take a step back and go back out to micro. the world has enjoyed the longest period of prosperity, post-world warar ii, defined by the united states military. the system that we take for
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granted a relatively free trade, of democratic values, of individual liberty, not all countries are perfect but the united states has the lead. in this case, specifically, i think what we saw in the last eight years, particularly in the middle east is what happens when we have a commander in chief in this case, president obama, who decides, thehe united states' engagement abroad does more harm than good, doesn't help the united states, and let's withdraw american leadership. we saw that when president obama backed out of a rock and he almost passed out of afghanistan -- >> tucker: i got to interrupt you. i agree with everything you said. america is the best from our leadership is critical to global prosperity. obama was bad. > that's how it benefits the united states, though. >> tucker: we are now in a shooting war in syria, which has haduc the worst civil war in the world in the last few years and
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i want to know how specifically that benefits america. i think it's a fair question given the recentn past. >> let's look at what's happened in europe the last four or five coming out of syria and what has happened in the united states. we had the rise of isis in the wake of obama's withdrawal from iraq. president trump has let us tragedy to defeat i it as a sta, it is defeated at the state, not a movement. a lot of those attacks in europe have slowed it down if not stopped and a lot of the inspiration in the united states, whether it is san bernardino or orlando or other places, have also stopped. i think americanss are safer asa result of president trump's strategy to take isis down and -- >> tucker: i agree. >> what do we do in the aftermath? >> tucker: what is so confusing -- i agree with what you said. it doesn't get to the question i asked, which is, you've got bush got bashar al-assad, a dictator
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come but he was against isis, too. we are fighting him? it seems demented to me and i bet you if you polled most americans, they would agree with me. >>wo i think the administrations doing now and what president trump is doing is shifting from isis to iran. russia is heavily involved. there's a lot of people asking why not just let the russians take care of it? i will tell you a couple of reasons. one, the russians don't care about isis. they care about defending bashar al-assad. iran has made more gains under the last decade and of the obama administration in terms of advancing its hegemony, not in the u.s. interest or israel's interest, then they made in the last thousand years. three, i'll quote a former nato commander who said the russians have weaponize refugees, piled them into europe, allowed isis to infiltrate, have done more to destabilize our partners in europe. so i think all of those things occurred -- >> tucker: with respect, that is pure propaganda in my
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opinion. russia and iran are bad, i'm not defending them. i wish we had more time. thank you. >> thanks. >> tucker: parades are fun. president trump wants to throw one for the fourth of july and a lot of people are collapsing into panic. that story is next. ♪ with standard technology like lexus safety system plus. the lexus es, and es hybrid. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. kayak compares hundreds of travel and airline sites so you can be confident you're getting the right flight at the best price. cheers! kayak. search one and done.
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♪ >> tucker: if the president like something, that person will hate it. it's a physics principle. the opposite reaction thing. we are reaching new extremes in the, though. this week after visiting france thee president became enthusiastic about a military parade. he thought we should put one on here like the ones we had after world war ii or desert storm. of course he was labeled a tyrant immediately. >> it seems the presidents
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requested parade was approved quickly because i think it took place. early this morning.. look. there you go. there is your parade. >> trump told the pentagon to plan a military parade. all right, check your cards. whoo has dictator ringo! >> do you think there's another piece of this, to tell totalitarianism. >>ta we are getting more north korean every day in this country. >> it doess seem to be deeply un-american, certainly in 2018. >> tucker: who let all the dumb people on tv? [laughs] unbelievable. joe concha covers the media for "the hill" he joins us. my favorite -- by the way, i am agnostic, i have no strong feelings. i do love the guy, a green party candidate, he said he was going to stand in front of the tanks like tank man in tiananmen square in '89. would he be joined by reporters? >> it is sounding like it based
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on that montage, tucker. i am in new jersey, background gives thatat way. in new york, i go to a couple of parades that go on their per year. there are more than 20 parades perr year basically almost every week during the summer. you have the coney island mermaid parade, you have the polasky parade which honors polish american hero from the revolutionary war. then youav have the big ones lie macy's and the st. patrick's day parade, the point is we have a lot of parades in this country. even outside this country. south korea, where the winter olympics is starting tomorrow, they have military parades. france, you mention, that is for the president got his idea. i love t to play a game in these situations. take out the name trump proposes military parade and put in a name like biden, and let's say joe biden said it would be a great idea to honor our folks on july 4th in washington, d.c. would you y see one snap of a
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reaction? i don't think so. >> tucker: can i ask a meta-question? if trump is a dangerous authoritarian dictator, why does it seem like left-wing federal judges are making all the key decisions? >> [laughs] is a very good point. as far as press briefings, i can think of that. we had a daily briefing today, reporterser are still on air force one. it seems the freedom of the press in terms of opinions on the ability to report hasn't been impeded in any way. so the totalitarianism argument doesn't seem to really apply here. unlike you, personally, i would have to see the cost and logistics aromas. i think it would be good idea for the president may be to go afghanistan and visit the troops, not just lip service, back it up with action. he hasn't done that yet. >> tucker: how about bringing them home? get them out of there. >> good point for the presidential debate in 2016, 84 million watchir the first ons all you see is the blue wall. i think it's a great
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opportunity, militaryde parade, anytime you have a lot of eyeballs on something, to uses this as a fund-raising effort. home for vets. or st. jude's hospital, kids with cancer. have this military parade but have a network broadcast it without commercials and raise money off of it and i think it would be a very good thing and i don't know why everybody has to get upset around a mere proposal around honoring our military. >> very quick, i know you're not a physician, i'm not either. do you think it's healthy to be as angry as these cable figures seem to be all the time every day? >> i think we are seeing a lot more performance art at this point, tucker. w i think we talked about this. they are playing to a crowd. they know their audience primarily as anti-trump on some other networks. they are just playing to their emotions. i don't think they are angry about half the stuff. >> tucker: i hope not. i'm worrying about jim acosta. he be okay? that is reassuring. joe, thank you very much. >> good to see you. ♪ >> tucker: he stop a terrorist on a train now they are
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playing themselves on the silver screen. up next, we talked of the stars of the 15:17 to paris." hey. pass please. i'm here to fix the elevator. nothing's wrong with the elevator. right. but you want to fix it. right. so who sent you? new guy. what new guy? watson. my analysis of sensor and maintenance data indicates elevator 3 will malfunction in 2 days.
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there you go. you still need a pass.
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>> tucker: alec scar lotto experience stone and sadler >> tucker: alek skarlatos, anthony sadler, and spencer stone saved many lives and got a lot of people's attention with rather than have actors play their three friends, clint eastwood had them play their own friends. they join us tonight. great s to see you, guys.gr >> thanks for having us. >> tucker: the story got more
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amazing. not only did you do this, and one of the great good deeds ever,, but you got a whole new career out of it. what was it like, had any of yon acted before? >> never. not even a school play. l >> tucker: to go from 0 to hollywood film directed by clint eastwood's a lot. how did you do it? >> we did it how we did at the first time, that is the only advice he gave us, was be ourselves, and do it how we did it. >> only clint eastwood could pull something like this off. he gave us the confidence to attempt it so we had to try it. >> we trust him so much we knew that he was going to do the story justice. having him, like anthony said, having confidence in us was all we needed. >> tucker: was it hard? >> it was fun. it was hard at first getting used to it. i think we caught a rhythm with it pretty quickly and we finished ahead of schedule i believe. >> he takes the weight of
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shooting a motion picture off of it, and he will capture it. you got to trust him. >> tucker: what was it like filming the pivotal scene in the movie, and in your lives, on the train? >> it was honestly just a lot of fun. a lot of people think it will be traumatizing but luckily we don't have ptsd. nobody died that day on the train. we got to hang out for a week on my train with my two best friend said clint eastwood. >> you get to do it twice, and that is pretty cool. it is more than just a headline, people good to see what happened, how messy it was, how crazy it was, and hopefully i'd inspired people to do something. >> tucker: that's it. i'm not judging anyone, but you see these things unfold and nobody does that. why do you think that is? > people are scared, which we werere scared as well. i think the unique thing about our situation as we were on a train and we had nowhere to go. all these situations are different. all these different attacks and stuffly like that but hopefully this changes the narrative a
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little bite and inspires people out there, the common man can do something if they find themselves in the same situation. >> tucker: if they are brave. what you guys are. that is always the key. had any of you thought a scenario like that through before you got on the train? if i'm ever in the situation, that is what i'll do. >> actually we had talked about it numerous times. we played were growing up together so we would ask each other, w if a guy comes at us, what would we do? >> i think that was the biggest contributing factor is our friendship going back so far and we all knew we would be on the same page or something like that happened. >> tucker: you actually did that. [laughter] most people just talk about it. >> we were just as surprised. >> giving me opportunity, that is at. >> tucker: i'm glad hollywood came to memorialize this for all time.ni thank you, guys, for joining us tonight. >> thank you for having us.
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