justyn "justice with judge jeans next. i'm watters and this is my world. [♪] judge jeanine: hello, welcome to justice. i'm jeanine pirro. and thank you for making "justice" the most of watched cable news show last saturday. dr. sebastian gorka among my guests who was standing by with some insider prospective on the white house as it deals with the fallout of white house staff secretary rob porter and more. but first my opening statement. can you tell us what's inside a cover. have you been tricked into

showing one was an upstanding person only to find out the person inside was totally different? it's nothing new. it happens to all of us all the time. as a young assistant d.a. i started the first domestic violence unit in a prosecutor's office in the nation. i fought on behalf of all victims. but my crusade was for the battered woman. the women shot, stabbed, beaten and brutalized by the very men who said they loved them. this week white house staff secretary rob porter turned out to be someone whose cover is different than the content of his character. porter is accused of physically assaulting both of his ex-wife. the uproar was predictable. how can someone who works in the oval office and walks with the president be a batterer?

late today i spoke with senior white house official about the process and was reminded january 20 of last year, a completely new white house staff arrived. everyone was give and form, and it's a multi panel questionnaire that seeks everything about you from your high school friend to your bank record to residential addresses, foreign travel be employment, foreign contacts. and when the form is turned in the fbi begins its investigation. in the normal course of events it can take 6, 7, 8 months, but rarely less than 6. complicated ones like those with high finances take a lot longer. as part of its investigation the fbi reaches out to local field offices for them to interview people referenced in the background form.

additional references from the local office are requested and it fans out even further. general john kelly arrived at the white house july 29. given his background as a retired marine four tar general, the first since the korean war to be promoted to that range he started to check out security clearance. kelly told don mcbegan that the fbi needed to speed up their investigations so quote we could get a sense of these folks. in the case of rob port, a senior white house staffer. kelly was advised it was complicated. but since nothing specific was highlighted, kelly said we need to get these clearances as quickly as possible. at the end of december and beginning of january this year with no feedback he started to

consider that particular situation serious. to the best of his recollection, the background investigation from the fbi had not yet reached the white house which then according to protocol does its own investigation after they review the fbi's investigation to make a recommendation. this past tuesday, february 6 was a typical day for general kelly. work as chief of staff in a fast-moving administration, going up to capitol hill on daca then return together white house at 6:30 p.m. where several communications people sat in his office. the press called inquiring about rob port per and an ex-wife who had gone public to say she had been abused. port per was immediately called into kelly's office and asked if that was true. porter lied and said it was untrue. he was then queried by kelly as to whether there was a police

report, was there a restraining order of any kind. he denied that again. within minutes another reporter called saying the first wife had now suffered significant physical abuse. that was enough for kelly. although he has seen no picture like the one you are looking at on the screen. at 7:30 that night edtold porter, you and i both know what has to be done here and he accepted porter's resignation. kelly called his deputy chief advising him of porter's resignation and gave porter permission to come in the next day to clear out his office. kelly hears about this as 6:30. he calls porter in. no police report, no restraining order. he tells porter, be gone within 40 minutes. kelly did what you would expect a leader to do.

there was no excuse. no hesitation, no justification. he had to go. so for everyone who is looking for someone to blame, chill out. you want to blame someone, blame it batterer. he doesn't walk around with a scarlet letter or sign on his forehead that says, i beat women. he's cunning and clever, presenting himself as a charming individual who is a rhodes scholar with a harvard degree. you want to stop a four star general who makes a decision within 40 minutes because you hate donald trump? find another scapegoat. you might want to look at the last president. that's my open. former deputy assistant to the president and fox news national security strategist, dr. sebastian gorka joins me

now. all right, doctor, did you hear that one? >> i did, very powerful. judge jeanine: what is it like? you are in the white house. what is it like? what do you know about security clearances? does any of this make sense to you? >> sadly it does, judge jeanine. and thank you for your role until championing battered women in the past. there is a bigger issue here. general kelly was decisive as you expect a four star former general to be. bust question is who is in control of the background investigations and the clearance process. i can tell you. i'm not going to name names. but we had some amazing candidates. one of them was supposed to come into a senior detective toreship on the national security council. and the people harming the

background checks slow rolled it. if they want to gum up the works and make the trump administration's job heard and harder they play bureaucratic slow rolls. it might be a deliberate mine field put in place where they know somebody like this has skeletons in their clothes and they slow roll everything to make things like this explode months later. the president has to desert control over the system. judge jeanine: the fbi is dealing with all kinds of stuff. when i was a today.line , we did background checks on everybody who came to work for me. when someone says it's going to take a year to figure this out, no, this is easy stuff. you make a decision based on the evidence. i understand the' staffing problem. that this is not a priority for maybe the local offices dealing with crime ordealing with foreign terrorists and all kinds

of other issues from rico on down. but if this doesn't take that long, i wonder if your theory is correct, that it was a slow roll. >> it shouldn't take so long. but the bottom lines, judge, we have over 800,000 people with clearances thanks to the obama administration. there has been a massive mush room of the clearances in d.c. it should, you should be able to get an interim clearance with a phone call to the bureau. and they should be able to give you an interim. a full scope clearance should not take more than two months, in my opinion, because it's and matter of interviewing people and the people who know this individual. i agree in theory it should be efficient. but the swamp has many ways to under mine the administration.

judge jeanine: general kelly is dealing with an incredibly fast-moving white house. and you are getting at this point down to some -- you have got a staffer problem. you are dealing with world issues. you are dealing with national issues and health issues, daca and the knives and the guns aimed at everybody. and at each other. then you hear about a staff issue. you make a decision in 40 minutes and everybody who hates the general or hates trump wants him out. what did he do wrong? >> the reality is that nothing was done wrong. if there was an issue here, then it should have been disclosed during the background investigation. otherwise fit was being slow rolled the general could have said what's going on. judge jeanine: which he did. but the real issue is the bench is so shallow.

when we moved toibt west wing on january 20, it was a couple of dozen people who walked with the president for that year and a half. and we had to fill positions like crazy it was a merry band of men and women like robinhood took over federal government and as at result a lot of people have to be found, and these are the problems that can come afterwards. judge jeanine: they have said nice things about this man, and obviously you know what i think of him. but i think it's inevitable in any administration. this one, the last one or the one before it, you will have people with problems who don't come in and say hi, i have got a problem, come check me out. dr. sebastian gorka, thank you so much. president trump defends his refusal to release the dems' memo saying they knew it would

require heavy redaction. joining me, chris stuart, who is a member of the house intelligence committee. i imagine you have had a very interesting year or so on that committee. >> oh, gosh, interesting is a great way to describe it. judge jeanine: so all the republicans vote not just for a release of their memo, their summary of what they saw in the classified documents. but all the republicans voted for the democrats memo to be released. none of the democrats voted for the republican memo to be released. do you find something partisan about that? >> yes. but that's the least of the partisans things we have seen and heard from this committee. here you have the republican who put forward our memo, and it's devastating. and it's just true. hillary clinton hired fusion gps

who then used a foreign agent to create this dossier that everyone knows is political garbage and the fbi hid that fact from the fisa court. the democrats on the committee for some reason city genuinely don't understand, they don't want people to know that. so they look at our memo and say how do we change the story? i give them credit, it was very clever. whiff started to read the memo, i thought that will have to be redacted and this will have to be redacted. and they will say we could tell the truth but the president build all out. it's very clever, but it doesn't change the facts. i think the president is right saying send it back to the committee. you guys fix it and i'll release it. judge jeanine: if the republicans went to the trouble of making sure there were no sources or methods revealed, and

no problems other than the fbi and the doj saying the sky is going to fall and don't put their names tonight. who was christopher wray defending other than his own fbi guys most of of whom are leaving or have been asked to leave. that's what's so crazy about this. christopher wray needs to be asked, what name did you not want to be revealed? peter strzok? mccabe? the people clearly in trouble? have you heard the name bill priestap? >> we heard that name and you will hear more of that name. so, look, for some reason the fbi and department of justice were criticizing this memo and refusing, saying we shouldn't released it when they had not yet seen it. they had no idea what was tonight and they were condemning

the memo and saying we were reckless for releasing it and they had not seen it. when we wrote this memo we were very, very careful. judge jeanine: we saw there was nothing there that brought the sky down. but i want to go back to priestap. i want my audience to remember this name, bill priestap. i don't like that i haven't heard of him. we have heard of the whole hierarchy, and there is one guy we don't hear about and that's bill priestap. comey threw him under the bus and said he told not to advice congress about certain things. the fact that we haven't heard from priestap maybe's cooperating. >> i don't want to be the headline. chris stewart reveals sensitive information. that's what some people would hope we would do.

there is this thing that director comey surround himself with -- i will say this carefully but it's true -- he surrounded himself with political progressive hacks. and they don't reflect the entity of the department of justice other fbi. the fbi is by nature kind of center, center right. these guys aren't like your typical fbi agents. it wasn't by chance it happened. clearly they were selected by the director. judge jeanine: how do you go from the hillary clinton investigation to the trump investigation. we want him to look at the law to be who they are. everybody in the fbi for the most of part is doing their job as well they should and as we appreciate. congressman cries stuart, thank you. >> i have been contacted by fbi agents saying thank you for

doing this. they want to protect the integrity of the agency. judge jeanine: i have been contacted by them as well. congressman louie gohmert on deck tonight. the fbi under fire from the congress and republicans. i'm joined by the fbi former director james kallstrom.

judge jeanine: welcome back to "justice." our next guest spent 25 years with the fbi and has knowledge about what's going on. james kallstrom, it's always good to talk to you. let's talk about what this fisa warrant -- i want to talk about the fact it appears relatively clear if not absolutely clear that there were fbi agents who made representations to the fisa court that were not correct. every day, jim, we get a little bit more about how the clinton campaign and the dnc fade

feution gps, then they got to steele, and then it went to the russians. now we have sidney blumenthal in this mess. who is a pal of hillaries we heard about at benghazi whose emails western accessed and told us she had gotten emails on benghazi. he may be part of the creation of the make believe story. >> yeah. i think it's very, very clear. i think the way you describe it is correct. it's perfectly clear that the files a judges were presented with information that first off was bogus. second off that was paid for by the dnc and the clinton foundation. that knowledge apparently was not passed on. quite frankly, a lot of this information is look more and more like it's coming from this cabal that always circled the

clintons providing basically trash information. it won't surprise me if some of that was thrown in there from the intelligence community. possibly john brennan and other people like that. judge jeanine: what i find so stunning, the fbi is saying don't put their names out with respect to the republican memo which was a summary of what they learned in the intelligence committee. then when they come out with this information, it's stuff we already knew. but the democrats put sources and methods in their memo which forces the president's hand. he cannot release it. it's intentional. >> it's all intentional. it's phoney russian thing to try to derail the presidency. that's all they have is this phoney business. judge jeanine: they made it up as they went along. in july after they let hillary

go, they decide they will need an insurance policy and they begin the trump investigation. do you know this guy bill priestap, jim? >> i don't know him personally, but i understand he was the head of counter-intelligence for the fbi. he would have been an assistant director at least. the guy with all the expect messages. >> what a students are we talking about if they tried these judges they could be charged? >> i took a look at that. it's aphasing. first after criminal contempt, then false statements. these are all title 18 crimes. then denying civil rights to the trump the.

alisynet aling group.this is se. judge jeanine: conspiracy to defraud a court. i would think if john robert, the united states supreme court appoints these judges, federal judges to sit as fisa judges. i would think a directive would come from on high to find out ways being presented to his judges that is apparently perjury if not absolutely criminal in terms of violation of the law. >> i would think so. this is a serious business. i think there is an awful lot of expose use for the people who signed these affidavits and signed these orders. the last one i know that was signed was done by the current deputy attorney general. does he not know this is phoney information he's signing off on?

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jeanine." judge jeanine: a blowout battle on "the view" about rob porter's resignation. >> we are talking about the abuse of a woman. >> we are talking about kelly. >> you are laughing. >> we are laughing at him being shocked. >> it's very serious.

as a republican i'm offended. >> as a democrat i'm offended by republicans. judge jeanine: i don't know how she sits there. katrina pierson and radio talk show host chris hahn. do you think it's a little unusual to turn this into a hate kelly moment as opposed to there are batters among us, women who suffer silently who get abused and don't get real justice, chris? >> look, if he was enabling him to stay there then he should be held accountable. judge jeanine: he wasn't enabling him. what do you mean by that? >> i don't know what he knew and when he knew it. that's the question that has to be asked. and he has to answer to the american people. judge jeanine: chris, did you

listen to my open? >> i spoke to about as senior as you can get in the white house to get that information. >> your opening is spot on. general kelly is a great man. i met him, i talked to him. he didn't know everything. i don't know why this notion that john kelly is responsible for this. rob porter was brought in buy reince priebus. now he's a target. the president is doing well, the poll numbers are picking up. what happens? they go after the chief of staff, someone who has been helping the president be successful. judge jeanine: poll numbers for the president handling -- 51%. if it says 51, it's probably 61

because most of people won't admit to thinking positively of president trump. >> the economy is going well, i'm not going to fault him for thinking going on in the economy. but there are other things that have to be looked at. things the president has control over. the president promised us all he would bring in the best people and so far it hasn't seemed that way. there are a lot of people who are not the best people. and that's not all his fault. but he's ultimately responsible for the people who come to work for him. whether they found out through the fbi or not. these are the kind of people the sht should not be surrounding himself with. judge jeanine: do you think general kelly and the president should put on their sherlock holmes hats and get out there and span the country? >> he's right, it's not all the

president's fault. the president is not responsible for doing background checks. you have to ask yourself why has it taken this long for the top staff in the west wing not have their clearance yet. that leads us back to the compromise of th of the fbi ande doj who have been doing things to hurt this president. >> mr. porter had access to documents top secret and above. for a president who basically got elected because his opponent was accused of handling top secret information. to be so lax with someone who handled top secret information on a daily basis. >> the standard protocol for an incoming administration, the staffers get a temporary

clearance. but what is, is huma abedin's husband having hillary clinton's emails. >> i think mr. porter handling top secret information could have been a crime, too. >> it can't be a crime if it's protocol. you don't get your background check and clearance done in 40 minutes. why has it taken a year for it to be done for the president's top staff. >> i shutter to what you would have said if this was president clinton's staff secretary being thrown out because he couldn't get clearance because he was beating his wife. there will be a congressional inquiry in 10 nos when adam schiff is given subpoena powers. >> i think it will be amazing in

10 months when we are back on the show talking about the downfall of the clinton dynasty because it's long overdue. we are seeing her cronies involved in the current investigation of the current president of the united states. >> i moved on from the clinton dynasty. you haven't. >> she is absolutely involved in all this. the question is what did obama know and when did he know it. >> oh, no, it's obama's fault rob porter broke the law. judge jeanine: if something happened in the past it doesn't matter any more. if someone kills a person and two years later do you just ignore it because of the passage of time because maybe there was a corrupt law enforcement effort that tried to protect them? >> judge, absolutely not. but i have been work with you a

long time, and if this was obama's staff secretary we would be having a different conversation about him. handling top secret information every day without clearance. that's a problem. that's why general kelly has a problem. not because he didn't know about the guy abusing his wife. general kelly knew he was handling top secret information. judge jeanine: wait a minute. what should general kelly do, get a typewriter and type his own security clearance? >> you should get somebody with the proper clearance to sit in that chair. judge jeanine: why doesn't the fbi do their job. >> hillary clinton had clearance and what did she do with top secret information. when she is indicted, then we'll talk about rob porter. judge jeanine: my next guest has

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judge jeanine: welcome back to justice. my next guest says it's clear the fbi and the doj * covers for clinton. joining me, congressman lo -- le gohmert. john kelly's only problem was he trusted the fbi. so when the fbi says somebody is cleared and somebody else couples and says he had a problem, well, he's thinking i trust the fbi, they got to the

bottom. now he knows you can't trust the fbi. once he knew for sure there was a serious problem he was gone like that. john kelly is a good man. on behalf of the president. the president sees what's happening. people think an allegation is the same thing as due process and it isn't. they used it to undermine this administration. but to answer your question -- judge jeanine: i want to put up the president's tweet. he tweet dad, people's lives are being shattered and destroyed by a mere allegation. some are true, some are false, some are old, some are new. there is no recovery for someone falsely accused. life and career are gone. is there no up thing any longer as due process? is that what you are referencing? >> that's exactly what i'm

referencing. you and i believe in due process. we would never send somebody to jail without due process, but one thing -- and this is a good segue, i think -- when a lawyer provides something to the court that is not true, and especially to a fisa secret court where there is nobody there for the other side. -- i know you know. i found out as a felony judge. when i put one lawyer in jail for contempt, people get the message. you don't come in and misrepresent. you do what is appropriate in court. i'm shocked, really shocked, that no fisa judge put anybody in jail yet. yet we have found total disregard for pro bright before the -- pore propriety before the fisa court. and somebody should have been in

jail over the improprieties submitted in court. i signed a letter to our chairman. he has a heart to get to the bottom of what happened in the fisa court. i talked to chairman goodlatte about it. he'll get to the bottom of what was said and what was done. there is a chance, there may not be some transcripts. in which case you go by the four corners of the documents that were there. and we know people should go to jail. judge jeanine: you say there may not be a transcript? >> we don't know for sure that there is or not. but there should be. when you have a court of record and usual handling felony business, you need to have that on the record. i will bet you did like you did. if you had a conference with the lawyers, you would bring the court reporter into your office and there should be a transcript. judge jeanine: the dems asserted

sources and method in their memo believing it would put the intel source and personnel at risk. why would they do that? >> they said that would happen with the republican memo that was released and we saw that was totally false representations they made. when they put sources and methods and they are not four, but 10 pages. it was totally a political act. it was disingenuous and it would have put lives at risk. no question. judge jeanine: is anyone going to go to jail for any of this? >> somebody has to go to jail or our system is over. the rule of law doesn't mean anything anymore. judge jeanine: he's been waiting to turn the fox light on the outrageous. nancy pelosi, bette midler and

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judge jeanine: congressman adram schiff praingd. >> she got compromising pictures after their short relations. >> what's the nature of the

compromise? >> there were pictures of naked trump. >> okay, so putin was made aware of the availability of the compromising material? >> yes, of course. >> okay. thank you very much. we'll be back in touch with you through our staff to mike arrangements to obtain these materials for our committee and the fbi. i appreciate you reaching out to us. judge jeanine: that's one of the most of outrageous things i have heard this week. here to break it down, michael hhe.>> the ranking democrat on e intel committee. judge jeanine: he's getting pranked. he's doing what they are accusing trump of doing.

he's on the phone with someone he thinks is a russian and he wants to meet with him. >> wasn't the russian dossier a prank on the american people? just saying. judge jeanine: the next one is bette midler. her tweet is where is rand palms neighbor when we need him. >> i'm not going to go there. you had we take out cher last week. i'm not taking out one of my icons. i love bette. when it comes to comedy i follow the joan rivers rule. judge jeanine: she is saying where is rand palms neighbor when we need him. his neighbor beat the hell out of him. he broke his ribs. he lied about what happened in the first place.

and she antifa, we want to beat the hell out of them. >> that's why people are tuning them out. judge jeanine: we don't want to tune out the victims of crime. is this woman an icon of yours? chelsea handler. >> no. do we have a picture? judge jeanine: rosie o'donnell, only rosie o'donnell. chelsea handler. in my effort to achieve some level of bipartisanship, my goal this year was to sleep with a republican voluntarily. it's going to be tricky. >> careful what you wish for, chelsea. when i met my husband mark in 2004 he was a raging democrat

voting for howard dean. by that summer i had him voting for george w. bush. judge jeanine: this woman is willing to sleep with anybody. she hates them, right? >> i think she is crushing on them. that's my theory. judge jeanine: maybe that's why she was so mean to melania. who said that? >> taylor swift. judge jeanine: we'll

judge jeanine: finally tonight i want to share a few photos from an amazing trip i took to springfield, illinois where i was the keynote speaker at the republican annual lincoln day dinner. what you see on the right there is the actual outside of the tomb where lincoln is a very. it's a huge monument and that is the actual crypt. they told me because lincoln tried to steal his body sometimes had to bury 8 feet below the crypt to put his body

there. that is meet with hard-working coal miners from the area. anyway, don't forget to send me on facebook, follow me on twitter in instagram. you never have to mis if you can't watch set your dvr. thank you so much for watching. i'm jeanine pirro advocating for truth, justice and the american way. >> the dow jones dropped not just significantly, not just by over 600 points but dropped specifically by 666 points. it dropped by 666, the number of the beast. it exists in the bible and it exist on jared kushner's new office building. greg: is true. everyone from holy water on your tvs. satan is our president. president trump had