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>> republican senate set to kick off a rare sight. a debate with over immigration reform. president trump indicated what he wants to see in legislation. no telling what the senate will produce. this is outnumbered. hosting kennedy on fox business. the former spokesperson news analyst and republican congressman ron santos. welcome. >> great to be here.
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>> a lot going on. let's go. front and center in the immigration debate is the fate of dreamers, hundreds of thousands of immigrants who came here illegally. the white house is floating an idea to maintain legal immigration at current levels for more than a decade. a group of senators announced a plan that mirrors the presidents network. support from both parties will be necessary. mike is live on capitol hill. here we go again. >> good afternoon to you. trump sounds hopeful as the senate tackles immigration today. senators are going to roll out an immigration plan which looks like what president trump
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requested. it would have a security wall and the visa lottery. the president wrote, republicans want to fix daca. all three branches of government decided not to do anything about daca. in the weekly address trump said get it done. >> time to act and protect americans. every senator should choose the side of the american people. >> can a leading house conservative said, congress must deliver what the american people want. >> what they want is border security first. build a wall. this the chain migration.
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city policy. get rid of those. do those first and then daca. that's consistent with the mandate of the 2016 election. it is what the republicans campaigned on. >> the senate passed a plan in 2013 with 68 votes in favor but it did not go anywhere in the house. as the senate is set to begin the debate, its democratic leaders sound more anxious about the house side. >> i also hope that speaker ryan will do what senator mcconnell has agreed to do allow a fair and open process to debate a dreamer's deal on the house floor. >> march 5th deadline for the so-called dreamers, supporters hope this will get it done. >> we come out to the couch now. congressmen, are we closer than ever or not? >> i think time will tell. i think what the senate is going to do is probably going to be a
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lot different than most house republicans will want. >> how different? >> for example the good last bill which is the house's version of what we need to do to deal with it. yes, it ends migration and diversity and lottery and that. it also defunds sanctuary cities. it has e verified. the problem with going back to the reagan amnesty. if you fund sanctuary cities, you're turning off the incentive to come illegally in the future. that's the difference. are you doing something solving the problem going forward and continuing on this cycle where we're in the same place 10, 15 years in the future? >> if you keep the legal immigration levels where they are for the next decade which is something i imagine democrats want. and you allow any form of amnesty because that's what the president said he would sign as
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well for the dreamers but you have to e verify on balance, do you think the democrats will go for it. >> i'm not sure the republicans would go for it. republicans only have a one-vote majority in the senate. you have folks that i'm not sure would vote for the bill. mcconnell kept his cards close to his vest in what he wants to see in a senate bill. this is a test for trump. he said he wanted to fix it and put a compromise on the table. democrats were surprised he might. could this brings the parties closer. >> republicans want to fix daca more than democrats, democrats were not able to get that done, is there truth to that?
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>> i think the reason they didn't do it when they had a majority is because it is unpopular. if you're looking at the states that trump did well in in the midwest that's not something that a lot of folks think is good for their wages and jobs. that's the issue. >> daca is pretty popular comparatively speaking. >> it is popular on both sides because people want to protect. children who were brought here at young ages from being deported to countries they may have come from but they don't have homes there anymore. there's bipartisan support for that. there's areas with bipartisan support. the president is talking about
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giving citizenship to 1.8 million people here. that's a huge number. there's a lot of gray areas. i think that's why you're seeing the senate debate. it is not as black and white as it has been framed. the debate is getting more sophisticated. if you have prohibition on legal immigration you'll have more illegal immigration. if you end the entitlement state which republicans and democrats are not willing to do, you're going to see a vast shift in immigration in this country. i think that's ultimately what people want. >> when you look at lamarr smith who said no way to amnesty and you look at others in the house and in the party, what is the compromise in the party. >> good luck bill is a compromise because it has
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regularization for daca because they would have nonimmigrant visa. they wouldn't have chain migration. part of daca, they were offered this, all they did is sign the forms the government offered them. that provision recognizes the reliance interest but is doing it in a way that won't fuel future ways. >> that's -- >> you had people sending unacompanied minors across the border. we don't want to incentivize that. some were being trafficked and abused. it was bad. even on our borders we were having a hard time with that. >> is it fair to say there's real progress. >> i think we'll see what
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happens in the senate. whatever the senate comes up with. that got to get the president's approval. if the president says this is not the direction to go. that's dead in the house. >> what happens if this funding fakes a turn the last time it did in 2006. you have immineeminent domain lawsuits. >> the wall, you're right, it is not just authorizing funding but actually appropriating it and then you have to -- you have to override all of the other laws. if the wall is not held up. and the same thing with the chain migration. the president's proposal, there's a question if that will sit and do that far in the future. what jimmy is say, let's get this in place and do the daca. >> i'm surprised, if you look at what we went through to
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prevent the government from shutting down started in the senate. normally it is the house that leads on these issues but what is so difficult about particularly immigration that keeps it in the senate for now? >> i think that there's -- paul ryan made a promise when he became speaker that he would not move immigration that didn't have a majority of republican votes. i think that -- that -- that they have not wanted to do anything in the house that will crater in the senate. >> come on, murray. come back in. >> i don't think they have anywhere close to 218. there's a lot of republicans in the house who are not running again who don't have the same concerns about the base or the primaries who look at the good life bill and say this isn't a complying in the same way -- e verify, it sounds so not controversial. it was incredibly controversial.
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i don't think that could pass. for republicans having a one majority vote in the senate makes this unclear. >> is it better on immigration to do what they talked about with healthcare because trying to do it in one giant piece didn't work. the president is hosting a meeting on infrastructure. let's watch. >> badly if you don't get it. if you don't want it, that's okay too but we have to rebuild with the infrastructure. i said this morning, as of a couple of months ago, we have spent 7 trillion dollars in the middle east. 7 trillion dollars. what a mistake. >> it is what it is. this is what i took over. and we're trying to build roads and bridges and fix bridges that are falling down. and we have a hard time getting
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the money. it is crazy. but think of that. as of a couple of months ago, 7 trillion in the middle east and the middle east is far worse than 17 years ago when they went in, not so intelligently, went in, i say, i'm being nice. a sad thing. the budget was recently passed and the reason it was passed is because of our military. our military was totally depleted and -- and we will have a military like we've never had before. we're going to have an incredible military. to me, that means a couple of things. number one it does mean jobs. number one, it means safety and security. without the military and we may have very strong views on spending which i have. but without the military, it is possible there's no reason for us to be meeting. maybe we wouldn't be here. we're going to have the strongest military we ever had by far. we're increasing arsenals of
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virtually every weapon. we're modernizing and creating a brand new nuclear force and frankly we have to do because others are doing it. if they stop, we'll stop. they're not going to stop, we're going to be so far ahead of everybody else. and nuclear like you've never seen before. i hope they stop. if they do, we'll stop in two minutes. i like to get rid of a lot of them. if they want to do that, we'll go along with them. we'll won't lead but we'll go with them. we'll have a nuclear force that is modernized and brand new. hopefully we could reduce it in the years ahead and that depends really on what other people are going to be doing. we'll be number one in that category certainly as long as i'm in that category. we're going to be far than anybody else. i'm honoreded to be here with
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the governors and mayors from around the country. secretary chiu and suggest ross, administrator, thank you for joining us. i appreciate it. we are here to discuss rebuilding the crumbling infrastructu infrastructure. and the people in this room understand better than most, the problem that states and local leaders have with funding the infrastructure is horrendous. and they will build and we will maintain and the vast majority of americans want to see us take care of our infrastructure. trucking companies are complaining they used to take trucks from los angeles to new york and there was no damage, now they bring damage in new york and tremendous damage to their trucks because the roads are in bad shape.
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very important. we're going to make our infrastructure modernized and -- and we're really way behind schedule. we're way behind other countries. we led for many years, then a number of decades ago it slowed down and over the last eight years and -- and 15 years, to be honest, it is -- it has come to a halt. this morning i submitted legislative principles to congress that will spur the biggest and boldest inf infrastructure in history. it will have 1.5 to 1.7 trillion dollar investment in infrastructure. we have a lot of public and private. it gets done on time and budget. it'll speed the approval ross from ten years to who years and maybe even to one year. because when we give you as governors and mayors and people representing your great states, we give you money. you can't get your approvals, i guess we're going to have to
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take that money back or you're not going to build. some of you sitting around the table that i know. some governors will get permits. others i don't think they'll get their permits so fast. you have to get it otherwise you won't be able to build. we can't give you money and you're going to take 15 years to get a permit. one state took 17 years to get a permit. the cost was many times what it should be. environmentally and all we have to do, i see scott is here. we're going to get you permits very quickly. provides 50 billion dollars for rural infrastructure who have been left out. the rural folks have been left out including broadband access which they don't have and they want it and the farmers want it. it'll create thousands of jobs and increase training for our
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great american workers. it returns power to the state and local governments who know best what their people need, washington will no longer be a road block to progress. washington will be your partner, will be your partner. a lot of money up to 1.7 trillion, that's bigger than people thought. we have great companies investing and building and they'll build for you. because sometimes the states are unable to do it like we can do it. or like other people can do it. or like i used to do it when i did the rink, it was seven years they couldn't get it built. it would have been forever. i did it in a few months at a much smaller price. they invested 12 million dollar in building an ice skating rink in the middle of central park. somebody told me about this the other day, they never forgot. it was a big deal, remains a big
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deal. took many years and they were unable to open it. and i said, you know, i like to able to have my daughter be able to going ice skating. we did it for a tiny fraction of the cost. and it is really no different with a roadway. no different with a bridge or a tunnel or any of the things we'll be fixing. the returns of -- of -- of investment will be better. the government says, this is what we want in wisconsin, you know where you want to do it. you've done a good job. how is your new company opening
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up doing? they doing okay? that was a big one. f foxcon. they went to wisconsin, scott did a fantastic job of presentation. i saw a site i loved. i was with a great businessman. i said that's a great site for you, right in wisconsin. i hear that's where they're going. you've done a fantastic job. but this is a common sense and bipartisan plan that every member of congress should support. i look forward to working with them, we're going to get the american people roads that are fixed and bridges that are fixed. it for any reason they don't want to support it. that's going to be up to them. what was very important to me was the military, what was very important to me was the tax cuts. and what was very important to me was regulation.
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this is of great importance, but not nearly in that category. the states will do it themselves. i like to help the states out. we're doing that with a big investment. one thing that is important, in the budget we took care of the military like it has never been taken care of before. general mades called me and said we got everything we wanted. said that's right, we want you to buy twice. twice what you thought for half the price. maybe we'll get involved in the buying. twice as many planes for half the price. we could do a lot. the procurement process is outdated. one of the things that was important to me with respect to the budget was daca. i didn't want it in the budget, i wanted it separate so we could talk about it and make a deal.
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i hope the democrats won't use it just as a campaign. they've been talking about it for many years and haven't produced. we started talking about it and i think we'll produce. if the democrats want to make a deal, it is up to them. we want really tremendous border security but we have to have democrat support for daca and they are starting that process today. we didn't want to have it in the big budget. if we have it in the big budget it'll get mixed up with other things. we have our military taken care of, we start very serious daca talks today. we are -- i can tell you, speaking for the republican party, we love to do daca. we want border security. the other elements, chain migration you know about. the visa lottery, you know about. we think there's a good chance of getting daca done.
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we didn't get one vote for massive tax cuts that have turned out to be unbelievably popular. what came up which was even a surprise to us were the big companies stepped up and millions and millions of people have gotten bonuses. nobody knew that was going to happen. that was the beginning point. we didn't get one democrat vote. that's a big political problem for them, if you want to know the truth. they're going around saying they made a mistake because the tax cuts have now -- you see what is going on. it spurred the economy. unemployment is at virtually record lows. black unemployment is at lowest level in history. hispanic is at the lowest level in recorded history which is something that is so great. we're very -- it is amazing what has been going on with the economy. and i just want to -- end by saying, it is an honor for you to be with us. we'll make statements and you could stay around. if you want, we could have the
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press or have them leave. i'll leave that to scott. scott do you want to say a few words. thank you so much, everybody. >> first off mr. president, on behalf of all of us, state and local leaders. both republican and democratic alike. thank you for hosting us. before you came in we had a good lively discussion about questions. you voted to a moment ago, foxcon which you were great to help us announce here, as i mentioned to many folks assembled. the panels here. in the future it'll be bigger, led by sharp and will be made in the united states. we're proud they would be ahead in wisconsin. a ten billion dollar investment. we're working with 3 million dollars of incentives. we think of infrastructure it ties into that. in the recent budget we made a
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24 billion dollar investment in our state in the transportation infrastructure. that is about 3 billion dollars more than the previous eight years. so we understand when you're trying to do here. one of those projects that will help, 1.6 billion dollar transportation project. interstate 94 through the state line all the way to milwaukee county. we completed a good chunk. i think 13 of the 19 interchanges have been completed. half of the miles have been done. there's one major portion right by where they're going to build a 10 million dollar ecosystem. we think through the help of the earl if government and infrastructure of america funding we could do this. the local roads we're helping with is being done in about with eight month's time and we believe on the time schedule
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we're on, the remainder could be done in less than two years, before fall of 2020. that would be completed by that time and it worked well and we think it is a good example between the federal and state and local governments. i would add, when you were coming in my friend from iowa was just talking about rural infrastructure and rural some. i want to say because we got a good portion of our state that is rural as well. not only thank you but rural initiative for transportation but particularly for broadband, we love to have fiber networks, you name it, there's opportunity for us to grow and expand our internet capacities all throughout the united states. >> been very unfair what has happened with broadband in terms of the middle west and rural areas as you know. you were a victim of it too. we're spending a great deal of money on that. they want it, they know how to use it. they want it. we're going to get it.
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how many jobs will be created because of fox con's new plant. >> 22,000 indirect. that's bigger than just -- just direct jobs 13,000, is bigger than 96 percent of all of the municipalities. >> everybody wanted fox con. if i weren't elected they wouldn't be in this country. i think you know that. 25, 35,000 jobs. one of the biggest economic jobs in the country. how will you go about ratrainin and getting the people to work there. the first phase is 10,000 construction jobs, it fits in with what you talk about, in our state and adjoining states. we made major investment. investment to the technical
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colleges, they're all stepping up their programs specifically to train because this is not only for construction but high-tech advanced manufacturing. we hope to have people being trained. >> and others as well. congratulations. you did. they told me you were great. the state wisconsin, i'm not surprised. they did a great job and you did a great job. >> adding to that as you know apple, i old tim cook during the campaign before i was elected. i said tim, you know, i don't know it if i'm going to make it or not, you got to build plants, build plants. i won't consider this a great success unless they see the big plants that i see all over china and other places, in particular china, hopefully you're going to build them here. he gave us a big surprise three weeks ago.
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350 billion, not million, million would have been nice too. he's investing 350 billion and he's taking 245 billion dollars back. that's the money we talk about coming back into this country. i think it is going to be about 4 trillion. it was 2 1/2 trillion but i've been using that number for years, so i know the number got larger. it could be larger. a lot is coming back. another company announced they're bringing billions back in the country. apple is bringing 240 billion dollars back in. they're going to build a tremendous campus. they build new plants. it is beyond anything that anybody thought possible. that's exciting. you add that on to foxcon, it is a different world out there. thank you very much. governor martinez, i like you to talk about the great strides that you've made in new mexico and what we're doing in some of
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the things that are -- that are happening, because that's a very exciting state. what is going on. thank you. >> thank you. >> first i like to thank you for all you've done, including our state through our mayors and governors and commissioners to be a part of the conversation. it was something that didn't exist in the previous administration and because of that, we're at the table and able to give our different ideas and how they impact our state. i'm grateful for your willingness to allow us to participate. the tax reform is bringing millions more in our state and with that is economic growth. our economic growth, we just brought facebook to new mexico. keep in new mexico is 2.1 million population. they brought a thousand jobs and
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to prepare for that with our institutions and vocational schools and making sure the workforce was prepared to take on that number. also as you know, new mexico is a very big piece of our national security as well as we have natural resources and energy resources. our infrastructure is important because we used to have two lane highways with what we were developing in the energy sector as well as our military bases and our national labs now are requiring four lanes and possibly turning lanes because there's so much traffic, because the energy in the southeast and northwestern part of our state, it is so big and booming that -- that we have private vehicles merging into that traffic and unfortunately now can be very dangerous. also our national -- we had -- we had the waste infrastructure program down in the southeastern part of the state bringing waste
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from the northern part to the eastern part and those trucks traveling on narrow roads along with the public. again, thank you for including us so that we could be a big part of that. our funding is certainly been private and public and national infrastructure and the dollar. we've been insisting on that because we don't want a single source to take care of our needs. we're constantly asking if there's a project to be put together, what is the city and county putting in and federal and state putting in. so together we could begin a project and complete it. >> great job you've done. >> thank you. >> one thing we're doing separate from this meeting, it amounts to the same thing is a reciprocal tax. we're going to charge countries outside of our country, countries that -- that take
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advantage of the united states, some of him are so-called allies but they're not allies on trade. they'll send in the product and we won't charge them anything. we send them the same product as they're sending us. one example is harley davidson, they're treated unfairly in many countries. we're going to do a reciprocal tax and you'll hear about that during the week and the coming months. not fair when we're taking advantage of -- that's why we have trade deficits and we have tremendous problems with trade. we're renegotiating nafta now. we either renegotiate it or terminate it. we will renegotiate it. bob is doing a fantastic job on that. hopefully the renegotiation will be successful and if it is not, we'll be more successful. but nafta has -- has been -- we lose a tremendous amount of
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money, 70 million with mexico and lose a lot of money with canada. canada does not treat us right in terms of the farming and crossing the borders. they'll treat us right or we'll have to do business really differently. we cannot continue to be taken advantage of by other countries. we cannot continue to let people come into our country and rob us blind and -- and -- and charge us tremendous tariffs and taxes and we charge them nothing. we cannot allow that to happen. we cannot allow it to happen. we lose vast amounts of money with -- with china and japan and south korea and so many other countries. and they understand where i'm coming from. i talked to all of them, they understand it. it is a little tough for them. they've gotten away with murder for 25 years. but we're going to be changing policy and we have incredible country and we can't let that happen. it is really affecting our workers and everything. so that's going to be a very big part of what is happening over
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the next month, everything is related to this meeting. i wanted to mention that specifically. i like to a county commissioner bovo of miami-dade say a due words and progress being made there also. >> thank you, mr. president, you would appreciate knowing miami-dade the way you do and the gridlock we're experiencing gridlock could be one of the biggest attracters to economic investment. miami-dade county has embarked on the miami spark plan. we're trying to be aggressive. we not only decided to put skin in the game, we also created til legislation that allows us to create -- >> we've been watching this and the president likes to let us see what is going on inside the white house in these big meeting. he said a lot is going to be developed and talked about, depending on what they discuss in this meeting inside the state
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right now. what is superinteresting is to hear the go back and forth on how dollars would be spent. this 3 trillion. >> i spilled my coffee. >> the congressman, one of your constituents in florida is up talking with the president now. what do you make of us getting -- getting to see all of this up close? >> i think it is good. the president excels in these forums. in teams of infrastructure, it is going to be 200 in billion in fell or whatever. that's important, to me the most important thing is he's saying these projects take forever and a day to get done. if he streamlines that, particularly for the local projects that have a real small federal component you shouldn't go through the federal hoops.
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we'll see them get finished which will make a huge difference. >> the president said in one state it took them 17 years to get a permit. he said we're going to stop that. he's answering something you were keeping up with. >> ron dow watched. there was sell-offs in the market last week. the market has slowly been going up. one could make the assumption that this market likes what it is hearing. infrastructure was in the cards. so this market was depending on this. but let me challenge you on something. because jerry wrote a piece in the journal looking at the president's infrastructure plan and he challenged it. it is a gamble. he said it is a heavy lift on the state and local governments. >> who knows best how to spend the money. you go to any local community. you see the mayor there talking
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about the gridlock. they see it every day. the traffic is brutal. they'll know which projects are good. people in washington log rolling. >> not real log rolling. probably feels like real log rolling. >> you'll join me tonight. my big issue is with states like new jersey, california and illinois who have so many unf d unfunded liability issues, how are they going to -- these states are cash strapped. you'll see states where residents won't claim the deductions that they were going to. how will they raise 8 billion dollars when they have no money? >> here's what i would say. you guys -- how much does it cost to go over the bridges in new york. it is unbelievable but yet the
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roads are problematic. where does the money go? there's a lot of money going into those states. >> are they going to take the money and channel it to -- >> they'll have to determine that when they elect people. >> you lose the tax base. if rich people there go to another state. >> that's 100 percent true. that's their fault. they're driving capital out of their state. florida you're going to have people come into florida in droves as a result of this tax bill. they're going to respond by not lowering taxes. they're going to keep doing the same failed policy. >> we have to rebuild the infrastructu infrastructure. trump facing backlash after deciding not to release the memo by abuses by the justice
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department. he said it had too much sensitive material in it. here's the ranking democrat adam shift. >> the hypocrisy of this, unlike the republicans, we gave the department of justice the information. what is going on, the president doesn't want the president to see the underlying facts. >> counselor kelly ann conway defending the president. >> it went through the same process, national security team looked at it and they feel it needs that -- it reveals sources and methods that -- that were not the case in the republican memo. >> what is going to happen next? >> schiff i think drafted that to bring this about.
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there's source material in there. footnotes. people criticize the memos. there's statements, there's for amplifying evidence. the reason they did it is they wanted it released. the schiff memo was designed for the opposite. i want it released. so change whatever and do it. i think it buttresses nunez's memo. a lot of the issues they're raising are tangential. >> you've read it? >> yes. >> a lot is side by side and the democratic response validates the memo. >> you need to declassify it. >> going back to the fbi. you see a different memo? >> this'll be interesting to see. president trump released the republican memo over the objections of the fbi and now he's listening to them. we'll see what happens.
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schiff has said he wants to do what it takes to get this out. the american people want to see it. so long as they're working in good faith, we want to make sure the white house is doing the right thing. the nunez memo i don't think shows misuse of fisa. the big question is about fisa and how this is done. the memos aren't getting us anywhere. >> which memo do we need to see? >> i agree. i agree on the evidentiary support. but from what i've read that would have to be so heavily redacted we may not see what we need to see. >> if the dossier, last a democratic party document that they paid for. some of it is absurd on its
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face. >> some is true. >> carter paige is getting 10 million dollars. that's absurd. release it all. at the end of the day, this fact is true in the nunez memo and schiff's memo won't dispute it. the fbi took paid research from another party's candidate and used to get surveillance on the campaign. that's the reality. that happens. >> we'll follow after president trump blasts the lack of due process following the swift departures of white house staffers. whether the critics are getting this one right. we'll discuss.
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there's no recovery for someone falsely accused. their life and career are gone. is there any due process. the president's remarks after rob porter and david sorensen stepping down after denying claims of violence against their ex-wives. other saying trump is ignoring the women. >> the new mantra is we believe the women and he's froze ern in believe the men. why are you nodding? >> because all of the things trump has said over the years, his reaction to this story makes me most upset, we as a country are having a conversation on the hill, in media and hollywood on how to deal with sexual abuse and harassment. for him to come out and say he's concerned about rob porter.
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it is a tough time for rob porter. to put -- not even say, obviously assault and harassant is bad and we should stand up against it, his white house kept people on for months and only fired them after the press reported it. the president has a history of believing the men. he supported roy moore. >> bring a man in the conversation. >> i think -- i think what happened that porter has gone is the right thing. having allegations is one thing. when you see the photos and blog posts from two different women. i believe in due process. you don't have a right to work in the white house. i think that was the problematic situation and i think john kelly as soon as he had all of the facts i think he acted swiftly knowing john kelly.
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in terms of the president, i think the president has been falsely accused of a lot of different things since he's been a candidate. i think he sees some of the stuff through that prism. >> that's a point mark shore his legislative director made over the weekend. going back to john kelly, do you think he would have dug deeper when they found out the details rather than waiting for them to come to him. >> what i like to know, when the fbi does the background check, how is this being reported, what information is being provided. it is one thing to say, although he may have had a problem in the marriage, it is another thing to say, there's specific allegations of spousal abuse. was that in there and given to first prebus and youn kelly. >> you come back to the original question of sandra asked, at what point do you say, until this investigation let's set you away from a president
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that you may jeopardize. >> you wouldn't get that job if you were applying to be a police officer or firefighter. you shouldn't be in that close proximity to power. and it is never okay to -- to -- to hit people, sorry. some of the media are being criticizeded for how it covered the visits of north korea and how they cover kim un yung's sister at the olympics. that's next.
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>> athletes are not the only ones getting attention at the olympics. plenty of coverage was given to kim jong un. she's getting plenty of attention. she turned on the charm. you're shaking your head. >> the press has a problem with credibility in our country now, particularly some of those outlets at least from people that i know and -- and are
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contingents of mine. why would you do this narrative with this sister who is part of one of the most repressive regimes in modern times. it floors me. >> what are those outlets, what do they need to know about this regime? >> they're not dumb. they know that. why are you romanticizing this individual. it is a prison, that country. they're oppressed. it is one of the worst places you could be in the world. >> the story is north koreans are trying to do a charm offensive. so there's actually an interesting story to be written. will not romanticizing her but it was just weird, the headline over the top but then in order to counter that, u.s. and south
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korea and japan have to remain cohesive. >> don't fall for the propaganda. she's not a figure skater. she's sister of brutal murderer. >> you can't fantasize this brutality. they're doing a charm offensive. >> propaganda. let's call it for what it is and not give the dictatorship any slack. those headlines are active on the websites. the last i looked. more outonumbered in just a moment. flawless... ...his signature move, the flying dutchman. poetry in motion. and there it is, the "baby bird". breathtaking. a sumo wrestler figure skating? surprising. what's not surprising? how much money heather saved by switching to geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more.
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congressman dos santos good to have you here. >> president's agenda is out. let's go to "outnumbered overtime". asking for a 1.5 trillion dollar investment in our infrastructure. watch. >> we're trying to build roads and bridges and fix bridges that are falling down. we have a hard time getting the money, it is crazy. think of that, as of a couple of months ago, 7 trillion in the middle east as the budget was recently passed.
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