♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: well, good evening and welcome to tucker carlson tonight. you may think the media are only capable of skepticism and loathe some. journalists can love too. latest crush the democratic people's republic of north korea. kim yo jong is at the winter olympics this week. according to the press, she is a huge star. bigger star even than our vice president, mike pence or for that matter bigger that are stan any of the actual athletes. don't believe it, consider some of these descriptions from "the washington post: the ivanka trump of north korea captivates. from cnn, she is stealing the show.

the "new york times" says she turns on the charm. reuters, the news wire, meanwhile, writes this, quote: north korea has emerged as the early favorite to grab one of the winter olympic's most important medals, the diplomatic gold. ugh. the reporters gushed over the last totalitarian state mike pence who again is the vice president of the united states attacked for not standing up to honor north korean athletes, watch. >> my thought was that mike pence said it was inappropriate to make political statements at sporting events. [applause] >> if you are in korea, you need to stand up. you need to stand up and show respect. the olympics are supposed to be the one place where politics is not supposed to play a part. that's my understanding. [applause] >> tucker: if you are surprised, you shouldn't be, progressives have a long and dishonorable history of supporting the world's most

repressive regimes. no surprise. "new york times" supported joseph stalin even as he was murdering up to 12 million ukrainians in the famous famine there. that paper led the cheering for fidel castro as he turned cuba into a police state. in 1975, we're not making this up. when the swept to tower in cam body i can't. the "new york times" made this prediction in a headline, quote: for most, a better life. one of the worst general sides in history followed shortly thereafter. turned out not to be true. it's hard to find a dictator the left has not supported. chairman mao, hugo chavez, they all hate america. progressive activists also have one thing in common they resent their fathers. that's where their politics come from. the rest are just window dressing. a weekly communist newspaper that supports the north korea regime where she has visited she joins us tonight. deidre, thanks for coming on. you are a long time communist. long time supporter of the

dprk. you visited at the invitation of the government. you think its leaders are great. when you see cnn and reuters agreeing with you that its leaders are great, that must validate you? i mean, you must cheer as you watch the olympic coverage. >> i have been to both north korea and south korea and i'm on this program because i wants to talk to the people who watch your show and make a serious point that we're in the process of moving towards a nuclear war. and they have never experienced that but the korean people know very much what war is like and they are not for it. and the people of south korea don't want war any more than the people of north korea do. and they showed that at the olympics, in the opening ceremonies when they cheered with great joy the fact that the north and the south were marching together. >> tucker: so since have you been to both countries i'm wondering. one is the last stall inist

regime. pretty rigidly markist. south korea is flooredly capitalist. market based economy which, of course, you reject. which country would you rather live in personally? >> i won't try to answer, debate you on everything have you said. >> tucker: not debating you. >> you got the whole hour. i only have a couple of minutes. but what i want to talk about. >> tucker: you're not going to answer the question? >> what i want to talk about is what i think is really an importance to the people of this country. that is that there is a group in washington that really wants to push for a war. the korean people don't want it. people here don't want a war. but they don't know what a war is like. they think you just push a button somewhere. that's not true. >> tucker: i have never said this to a communist before but i actually agree with you. i don't want a war in korea. >> good. >> tucker: i think there are people in washington who are pushing for it i think you are absolutely right there. where i disagree with you we don't know what the people of north korea want because they are no not allowed to say

what they want. >> that's bologna. tucker tuck do they have internet access there? oh, they don't. >> they know what's going on in the world. they know perfectly well that's going on in the world? >> tucker: how would they know? it's illegal to watch a foreign movie there. >> you are making up a lot of stuff. >> tucker: is that not true. >> people of north korea very aware of what is going on in the world. north korea has a 100 percent literacy rate. did you know that? >> tucker: i did, yeah. >> i got that figure from the cia fact book if you wants to check it out. they have universal medical care. they are not in some kind of a, you know, jail. they are not. they are. >> tucker: really? >> they are people who want to get out from underneath the threat of war that the u.s. has posed ever since it invaded their country in 196 -- i know you don't want to debate. i'm assume you don't want to answer real questions. let's try a couple of them. if they are free, why can't they leave? >> look, people. >> tucker: that's a fair

question. >> people go back and forth. you know, you are taking this whole -- in a whole other direction that shouldn't be of any significance to people here. >> tucker: wait, why does it look -- you are up here speaking, hold on. >> people in washington who are for a war. why do you think they are for a war? >> tucker: that's one of the questions i haven't been able to answer for 35 years here. one question i have been able to answer simply is this north korea a free place a place you would want to live or is it a prison? do you know what the imprisonment 800 per 100,000. do you know what it is in south korea 100. >> do you know what the imprisonment rate is in the united states. >> tucker: it's very high nowhere near 800. >> greater than any other country in the world. >> tucker: that's not true. north korea is the highest. >> no, no, no. i'm talking about the number of prisoners highest in the world in the united states. that's true. and the majority of them are poor people, and they wouldn't be in jail if they

had a lawyer to keep them out of jail. >> tucker: right. >> people in washington have lawyers. keep them out of jail. >> tucker: this is the point i was making. is that no regime, no matter how repressive, how many of its own people had has killed, is ever undefended by the left if it hates america. if north korea suddenly became pro-american, you wouldn't support it, would you? you know that you wouldn't. >> you say that this is a country that hates america. >> tucker: i would say that of north korea. i think that's fire say. going out on a limb there, yes, i am. >> come over to this country and bomb us? if they ever do what the u.s. did to korea, do you think the koreans feel good about what the u.s. did to korea? the u.s. bombed every building over one story during the korean war. bombers had to come back with their pay loads undropped because there were no buildings left to bomb. >> tucker: just a quick reality check do you ever say to yourself you know, i

dislike america where i live. >> i don't dislike. >> tucker: more than i dislike north korea. >> i i don't dislike the people of this country as well. i'm thinking about them as well as the people of north korea a we should not have a war against north korea. >> tucker: i'm with you there. >> the pentagon who are actually doing the planning for such war? >> tucker: let me ask you such question -- >> -- you know there is going to be war games coming up north korea. >> tucker: i don't want to have to cut you off. i want to ask you one last question a sincere one. >> we have to worry about that. >> tucker: i got it does it bother you at all. rethink your defense of north korea when you see its population starving and leader dying of obesity? >> the people there are not starving. >> tucker: they just had a famine. >> this is a run it that i was left in ashes, in ashes. >> tucker: it's our fault. >> just a generation and a half ago. they rebuilt their country. they have rebuilt their country: they have, you know, if you look at the koreans, they're the healthiest looking people in

the world. >> tucker: they're the best except for the tape worms and tuberculosis. you know what? you should get some dental work. >> you are telling people lies about the world. and that's what your station does. and i am not surprised by that at all and i'm glad to have had an opportunity. >> tucker: thank you so much. it's great to see you. dr. allen mendosa executive director of the alan jackson society and he joins us tonight. dr. mendosa, thanks for coming on. >> a pleasure to be with you. >> tucker: so do you think we are overstating it when we describe north korea as basically a prison? >> no, of course not. it is basically a prison. this is the world's most oppressive regime. it is indeed a prison camp. you can't leave. your last guest was sort of smeeg before she came on, but i have to say most extraordinary set of sort of points, different points put together in a sort of a policy statement. look, this is a state which

exists and runs on terror. it runs on terror. it runs on torture. it runs on imprisonment, and it runs on ensuring that the people who live there are at the beck and whim of the regime. it is indeed a prison camp. you are absolutely correct. >> tucker: why the impulse? you have watched the reaction of the international left to a lot of these different regimes over the years. why the impulse to defend, to side with, make excuses for regimes that are indefensible simply because they hate the west? >> there is an extraordinary romance the left actually believes in when it comes to these regimes. it starts with the idea that actually we can convert these people somehow. and it goes along the lines actually we have something in common with them. you are right to highlight the fact that the u.s. is frequently seen as the sort of chief enemy of these regimes is something that actually appeals to the left as well. and take those things together, you look at those two things together and you

realize that you get a kind of complete opposite to what would happen if it was a right wing regime. if that was the case the left would be first out on the street must ignore them. when it comes to someone who is anti-american, they have a very different view. >> tucker: sort of strange though if you go live in the west, in the u.k., the u.s. enjoy the fruits of the society. why devote your life to destroying it. only the left does that right? >> absolutely. here you come to the crux of the matter. why is it the citizens of our country who enjoy free societies, who enjoy the ability to argue and enjoy the ability to discuss. go out on a limb to defend dictators oppressive regimes who prevent their citizens from doing that is an extraordinary, extraordinary turn of events when that happens. what you should be saying, what true liberals should be too long is arguing for the inhabitants of those countries who are subjected to human rights abuses. getting them the same rights that they themselves

enjoyed. you don't have that at all. >> tucker: why fathers should be nice to their children otherwise they will go up to be progressives. they will hate you and make a whole politics out of it allen, thank you so much. >> thank you, my pleasure. tub tuck white house says there is too much classified information it but they are workings on it. was that the plan of the democratics as long? we will put that question to the congressman next ♪ some moments can change everything. you can't always predict them, but you can game plan for them. for 150 years, generations of families have chosen pacific life for retirement and life insurance solutions to help them reach their goals. being ready for wherever life leads.

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underway in washington over memos. democrats have asked president trump to release their memo. it's a rebuttal to the nunes memo of 10 days ago in the fbi. the president says he will release it but at this point the memo contains too much classified information that he must be taken out or altered before the public can see it some were saying that was the plan all along that democrats deliberately created a memo they knew couldn't be released. congressman eric swalwell represents the state of california and he joins us tonight. congressman, thanks for coming on. >> tucker i great to be back after our court ordered cooling off period. >> exactly which i was thinking off today and grateful that you came back. so 10 days ago february 2nd was the day the nunes memo was released and this show had called for it to be released. because of that you said we were work for vladimir putin. now the democrats have a memo, the minority memo, and i would like to see that released and we called for it to be released on the show as well. do you still think i'm working for putin now that i want your memo released. >> i never said that i said you are making the argument and same side of them.

>> tucker: i was actually doing his bidding. so the question is asking for your memo to be released doing his bidding, also? >> yeah. no, i said when you are on the same side you have to ask whose bidding are you doing? >> tucker: so now, hold on, wait, please answer the question. i'm asking for your -- you said that because i wanted nunes' memo to become public. now i would like adam schiff and your memo to become public. am i still on putin's side? >> it sounds like this is going to be a short interview because you and i agree the democratic memo should be public. >> tucker: so the answer is if i want the republican memo to be released i'm on putin's side but when i want the democratic memo to be to be released i'm on god's side? >> i think both of us should agree we should get past the memo attacks on process and get to the evidence in this investigation. >> tucker: what's so striking though is that when nunes memo it's hurting national security and subverting the ruler rule of

law. apparently this memo you are releasing has classified information it in it apparently it does the why is it not subverting the rule of law. >> we did something the republicans weren't willing to do. he would asked the department of justice to review it if there is anything in there that would hurt the rule of law or national security we would want that redacted. it seems odd that the president now wants to listen to the fbi when he was willing to relee lease the memo before even hearing from them or looking at the memo. >> tucker: great respecter of the fbi and that's the case have you made for months that anyone who questions the fbi is unpatriotic and they protect your life even as you sleep and how dare you question their judgment. are you questioning their judgment? wouldn't you want the fbi to hold that memo if they believe it impayrolls national security? we do and working with them right now. the way the president is working with suspicious. we want to know if he is

pressuring them to hold back. >> tucker: i are saying the fbi is subject to political pressures? i thought you said it was above politics? isn't that the point you made night after night. >> he has already fired the guy who was investigating him. tuck tongue all of a sudden the fbi is a political tool. i thought i was immoral for suggesting that 10 days ago but now you are suggesting it. >> they are not a political tool. >> tucker: i thought you just said that. they had just been pressured. didn't you just say they had been pressured. >> i want to know if he is pressuring them. he can apply pressure without them being pressured. we should work with them. but, again, tucker. this is all a distraction. it's a charade actually. we really should be hearing from witnesses because it may. >> tucker: i surprise you. >> we haven't heard from a witness in our investigation in over a month now. >> tucker: i agree. look, again, just to be totally clear. i think that classification is used to shore up people's power in washington. i think a lot of people we should be able to see we can't because they are classified for no good reason. so i'm very sympathetic to your case. what i'm not sympathetic too

is the changing goal line here. when you do something it's great. it's in the national interest. when the republicans do the exact same thing, it's somehow doing the bidding of vladimir putin. do you see what i'm saying? >> well, no, tucker, what i see is the fbi said it would be extraordinarily reckless to release a memo and the president went ahead and did it anyway. now they said they have concern about ours. what are we doing? we're working with them. we are not going to the house floor and just reading it recklessly. we are working with them because we still believe in the rule of law and the institution of the department of justice. >> tucker: can i ask you a question though? why did you send it to the white house? why didn't you ask the fbi first? i mean, you are part of the oversight of the committee. you could have asked them privately hey, is there anything in here you think would imperil american national security before you sent it to the white house because you didn't because you wanted to grandstand about it obviously. right? >> no. it's not grandstanding. it's about an attack that occurred on our country. witnesses in this investigation now being given information by the republicans and us wanting to follow the rules.

god forbid we have a roughly law and a process that's worked for over 200. >> tucker: why didn't you asked the fbi ahead of time. run the memo by the fbi before you sent it over to the white house? >> tucker, we have been following the rules that were given. we are in the minority right now. >> tucker: no answer? okay. >> how it would be run if we were in the majority. >> tucker: i know we would be in the middle of impeachment. we have been talking about this over a year. you suggest you had that the president and the people around him basically sold out our country to a hostile foreign power russia. you present nod evidence of that you said it's either classified or the investigation is ongoing. i want to make a deal live on tv. if you have any evidence that trump or anyone around him colluded with putin to win the election, i will give you a half an hour of this show live on fox, big audience and can you present it i will let you present the evidence. i mean that because this has gone on too long and i want to know what the evidence is finally. fair? >> yeah. fair, tucker. but we're not even looking for collusion. that's the probable on our committee. we are attacking the

process. we north interviewing witnesses. if you gave us time to interview witnesses and the subpoena power, i promise you we could tell the country once and for all what happened. >> tucker: it's gone on for over a year. if you have any evidence at all of collusion, any. i don't care how small it is. i will give the floor to you and i will mean that. i want to wrap this up. i'm sure do you, too. you are not enjoying it? >> a lot of my conservative friends would love to see me on your show for a half hour. >> tucker: congressman, thank you for joining us. i appreciate. >> it my pleasure. >> tucker: president obama and first lady michelle obama had their portraits revealed. really odd. to be honest with you they are weird. why will show them to you just ahead. ♪rr ♪ oh! my wallet! un momento. card lock from capital one. instantly lock your card. in case your card goes...

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1.82 million. where did the extra people come from? >> this started several weeks ago. actually started a year ago when tom cotton and i and we have been on your show a couple times about that. we started a year ago talking about we have an opportunity to fix the immigration system. when the president decided a couple months ago that he wanted -- that obama had done incorrect thing by executive order regarding daca. so we have been working feverishly to follow up on his agenda that he laid out several weeks ago in the white house when we had democrats and republicans in the white house talking about how to fix this immigration system on the legal side. the legal immigration system. that's where we are. >> tucker: if we legalize 1.8 million. put them on a path to citizenship and voting. how can we make sure it stops there. previous amnesties have drawn a lot of other people. how do you stop it? >> first this is not amnesty. second of all if that's what you did you would not end. >> tucker: how is it not

amnesty. >> people not actually violated the law. here is the issue. the issue is the president made a bold move. put this out as an offer if and only if he gets the faucets. end of diversity lottery. end to have chain link migration we have and border security. those are the things preclude us in being back here again in a few years. >> tucker: immigration hawks to seems too moderate. to a lot of republicans in the senate it seems too fierce. can you get united republican support for this? >> we are finding out right now. this is a bill that is supported by the american people. two thirds of americans want to end the daca situation. they want to end it. they also want border security. end of chain migration and end to diversity lottery. 71% believe immigration should be based on the worker, immediate family and spouse alone. so this president has reached out and has got a bill or we have got a bill that the president will sign into law. actually will assure us be here again in a few short years. >> tucker: who would vote

against us and on what grounds could a republican be against this bill. >> some people will say we don't support a pathway to citizenship. this is a price to pay to end this nonsense right now and to get to a solution that will keep us from being here in a few short years. most of the republicans i know will back this bill the way we have it. >> tucker: will you get any democrats. >> we hope. so it will be interesting to see if they will vote against this solution. what they called for before. the interesting thing over the years democrats in different forms have actually asked these same facets that the president has outlined in this same framework as early in the 190s, barbara jordan headed up a commission that called to an end to chain migration. >> tucker: the noted white supremacist barbara jordan. senator, thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: immigration attorney joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me, tucker. >> tucker: the president as you know has put on the table and republicans as you just heard from the senator are willing to back up legalizing, giving amnesty

to 1.8 million people who came here illegally. if that happens, if trump does sign a bill giving citizenship to these people, will you vote for trump? or anybody in that group vote for trump? >> tucker, i can't vote for trump because i'm actually a daca recipient. here 30 years. i have a small business. >> tucker: i'm aware of that so i'm including new that if this goes through, you will get a path to citizenship. unfortunately this won't go, tucker, the plan the white house has proposed has no legs. i have met with hundreds of republican offices in the house and the senate. not 218 votes in the house and not even 50 votes in the senate. >> tucker: no doubt on the hill for open borders. i don't want to argue the. what about this bill unacceptable to you. >> i want to know what happened to president trump that campaigned during 2016 promised to be advocate of legal immigration. this framework would cut

immigration to levels not seen since the great depression. >> tucker: not levels since 1995. you have the wrong numbers. look, not to get them in your face. the point is, this bill does what specifically that you think is unacceptable? chain migration stays. it's related to the nuclear family. you still get to bring your nuclear family. they can't bring a lot of people after them. should they be able to. >> president trump himself during the campaign promised he would put a big beautiful door at our nation's border for legal family immigration. >> tucker: so we get -- let's just say 500,000 legal immigrants ear i don't. what should be the number if that's not enough? >> right now we have a million. i think the number should be slightly more. i think. >> tucker: should be what and why? >> 1.5, 2 million, immigration make makes this country great. 86% of the public. 79% of registered republicans want the dreamers to stay here. >> tucker: as long as you are going to throw poll numbers around with which

i'm familiar. there is no group of americans who wants 2 million legal immigrants a year pew just polled this two weeks ago. people want less legal immigration. but, whatever. >> 80% want the daca recipients to stay but not under the deal that the president proposed. >> tucker: that's bad why he is giving citizenship to 2 million here illegally and that's racist why? i'm serious? >> the 'has had an opportunity to make bipartisan deal on this he rejected graham durbin. reduce. fund the wall. >> tucker: don't get political with me. i want to talk about the policy. what about this specifically so this would prevent people from bringing their relatives who aren't part of their nuclear family. do you think people should be able to come here legally get am else in city citizenship and then bring who, grandparents, uncles, cousins? what do you want specifically. >> i think our system is incredibly restrict tia. you can't sponsors grandparents, uncles,

cousins, it takes decades to bring your family here. and often they can't come because of collateral provisions. we have a collateral system. >> tucker: you should be able to come here illegally get amnesty. snuck in the country. we give you amnesty and should be able to bring your cunks, uncles and grandparents? that's what you believe. >> most of those normal paths are being eliminated by the white house immigration proposal. if this is path is legal immigration why is it -- >> tucker: these are people who came here illegally, we have no duty to keep them. we could deport them including you, no offense. >> i hope you wouldn't deport me. >> tucker: lots of countries deport people, dominican republic, israel, japan. >> we don't set our immigration policy based on other countries. >> tucker: we have no moral responsibility to deal with people who aren't citizens. our responsibility is to citizens. people sneak in here illegally. it's immoral not to just bring siblings and parents,

uncles and grandparents? that's your position. this proposal would actually affect individuals who come to the united states legally and want to sponsor their family. i thought the republican party was all about family. it makes it easier to break families apart. >> tucker: you don't have to come here if you don't want. i don't know if you knew that it's our country trip and you don't have to come if you don't want. >> it's my country. >> tucker: i don't think it is i don't think you are a citizen. >> i am not. i own property in d.c. two degrees small business owner. you want to kick me out, tucker? >> tucker: basis of the country is citizenship. it just has to be that way or it's not a country. >> absolutely. create additional legal channels for people to be able to bring their close family. >> tucker: how about we decide. how about we don't let people who come illegally bully us into bringing relatives. how about americans decide. congress did that over the course of the last 100 years has established a firm family immigration. >> tucker: it's falling apart thanks to bipartisan effort to bring in cheap labor. thank you, jose. good luke staying. president obama's official

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♪ ♪ it's our tree! ♪ ♪ see how a personalized financial strategy and access to j.p. morgan investment expertise can help you. chase. make more of what's yours. >> tucker: well, michelle and barack obama's smithsonian portraits were unveiled today. it's hard to believe they are real but apparently they are. the president's portrait shows him stuck to a wall of foliage like you were glued to the outfield chicago. michelle obama's portrait less weird though some questioned whether it looked like her at all. the portraits were painted by her previous paintings include racially fraught works of white people being decapitated. of course. mark steyn is an author of and columnist. he joins us tonight. i don't know if you are familiar with her -- i want to put some on the screen for our viewers who aren't

familiar with it. so, here is one of them. there is the famous decapitation racially fraught decapitation portrait. now, sort of wonder you don't have to be too creative if you flip this around. that's pretty heavy duty thing, isn't it? that looks like well, there is another one. this is the person painting the obama's portraits? >> yeah. i think this is what happens when you try to be up to the moment. clearly the obamas didn't want to -- my advice if anyone wants to do a formal official portrait of you is to climb into a suit, stand in front of a fireplace or sit in a wing chair because almost any time you try to do it differently, it comes off worse and in five years' time you look completely ridiculous. it's like the portrait of howard dean in the state capitol in vermont which is commonly referred to as the l.l. dean portrait because

all the other governors are lined up looking like a bunch of stiffs who look like governors. and there is l.l. dean looking as if he is about to go into the wilderness to commune with our natives. anything you do risks other than the conventional one risks looking ridiculous. and i think in the case of president obama, in front of all those leaves, that's very much the case. >> tucker: that's right. i should point out his portrait was painted by a different artist from the one who painted his wife's. he made less sensible than she. i don't know if you saw this. there are only nine members of the supreme court. one is called ruth bader ginsburg. she is sort of a hero on the left. and she recently said that sexism is to blame for hillary losing. the supreme court justice obviously typically avoid partisan political. she was attending a political conference. she aired her grievances in 2016. listen to this. >> i think it was difficult

for hillary clinton to get by even the macho atmosphere prevailing during that campaign and she was criticized in a way i think no man would have been criticized sexism played a prominent part. >> tucker: does he have evidence of that or is she making it up since she a supreme court justice? >> that's the point i would have leapt up and said objection, your honor, move to strike. because there is no evidence. she shouldn't be talking about this first all and shouldn't be necessary to say this obviously because she is a judge. she shouldn't be doing. this and this is not just political. but it's actually speculative. she is purporting to explain

as hillary has tried to do why hillary lost. and she is revealing that she is making assumptions about half the people who will be appearing before her bench in the court. and in that sense, her speculations as the lawyers like to say have no probative value. she is a judge and she should know better than to concoct evidence based on her own assumptions. i think this is absolutely terrible. you know, i loathe rule by judges which this great republic has dwindled down to. but people accept it because they think they're are a kind of super legislature. lined rogue regents who are above the law. who are above politics. so, if these nine rogued regents start purporting to know the minds of 100 million voters, i think that's actually very

disturbing. i think with respect this is something no judge should be doing. and she should be rebuked by the chief justice for doing it. >> i wonder what she would make of the majority of married women who voted against hillary? >> right. but you know something, that's a fact. and that fact could be laid before the court but what this judge is doing is just actually speculating based on her own prejudices. that's actually a kind of weird thing for any judge. never mind one who has gone this far up the chain. >> tucker: i agree with that completely. mark steyn, great to see you. >> thanks a lot, tucker. >> tucker: one professor says you ought to stop having children for the sake of the planet. he'll join us next to explain why. stay tuned. ♪ ♪ tire in the middle of the night. hold on dad... liberty did what? yeah, liberty mutual 24-hour roadside assistance helped him to fix his flat

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>> tucker: want to save the planet? don't have kids. more and more people are coming to that conclusion. the "new york times" just profiled the growing group of people who say they are refusing to have children because they don't want to contribute to global warming. joseph a professor of history at sacramento state university. he says that's about the right idea. he joins us tonight. professor, thanks for coming on. >> hey, thanks for having me, tucker. i need to make something clear though before we start. i'm from sacramento. i have to give a shoutout to anthony sadler, our student here at zac state who is playing himself in the new clinton eastwood movie. he graduated 2017. >> tucker: i just interviewed him on friday. what a great guy he is. i'm impressed. >> see that's evidence we are not indoctrinating the students and tell them to worry about trigger warnings. >> tucker: that kid is

brave. i will say that. >> go hornets. >> tucker: see, that wasn't bad. i usually hate that stuff but that was a good one. >> the other thing, i know the other thing. >> tucker: i can't let you promote anymore. i will get fired. i can't do that i'm sorry. >> i'm a scientist. historian i wrote this book about robert kennedy. better book than chris matthews. >> tucker: let me ask you a question. >> better book than chris matthew's book. >> tucker: that's not high praise. so here's the question. you think people should have fewer kids because of global warming. high the highest birth rates are in africa. top 15. somalia, you are telling african women to have fewer kids? is that what you are saying? that is what you are saying? >> let me, yeah, this is going to put a if you are row in your brow, tucker i'm telling you right now. because although i think that article is legitimate in that it raises some legitimate concerns, it's really a dumb article that we're talking about. because what are we going to

do stop reproducing the species? it's not going to happen. we're going to have children. i don't believe we should stop having children. i believe we should look to the future and look what the markets are telling us right now is that renumbers renewable, capacity is increasing. global capacity for renewables in electricity globally by 2020, 2025 is going to be increased by 40%. there is going to be. >> tucker: i mean, that's partly true. i mean wind is a joke but solar is real. hold on. there are a lot of people out there, hold on, there is a lot of people out there arguing that you shouldn't have children or you want to limit the number of children you do have because of the earth. and the pressure that they put on the earth. and my question is are you going to take this message to the countries that are having the most children and two it's a little appear at this human, isn't it that message? >> i'm historian.

let's go back. this country has already been through this whole thing, it's called eugenics we don't want to go there what we want to do is work all together, people in all the world to face a global problem. i mean fox business news just on december 20th was urging its readers to think about investing in alternative fuel stocks. i mean, elon musk is going to have 100,000 electric semi-trucks in the next four years. he wants to produce 100,000 a year. he just shot a tesla into outer space. that's the future. and the stocks are showing that. the markets are showing -- >> tucker: can i say, so the stock market is going -- this is why i love liberals stuff. stock market is always right now. you take a lot of your cues from the stock market like if tobacco stocks go up is smoking okay? >> no, i'm just saying that back in the day when henry ford was moving the country to automobiles, there weren't people saying oh, we have got to hang on to

wittman buggy industry. >> tucker: yeah, there were. a lot of people saying that. >> now moving into electric fuels, electric vehicles. i mean, he just shot a car into space, man. >> tucker: i know, so impressive. i'm not sure what that means. you are kind of freaking me out a little bit, professor. >> we are leaving the 19th century and going into the 20th century. >> tucker: let me sum this up because we are almost out of time and this interview is obviously totally insane. >> markets from spoken. >> tucker: there you go. new liberal position. markets have spoken. >> they have. >> tucker: anything about technology or markets that makes you uncomfortable at all? are they always good and right? >> there is a woman running for governor in minnesota right now on economic stimulus to tackle climate change. we're moving forward. a woman wisconsin conservative energy forum. >> tucker: nothing could go wrong. technology is always good. all right. good. >> moving forward. >> tucker: i love your child

like faith, professor. i'm not going to do anything -- you know, i'm not going to tell you his stance is not real because i don't want to hurt you. thanks, professor. great to he so you tonight. well, of course, everything is racist in america and by everything we mean literally everything. even acknowledging who founded the country. racist. details ahead. ♪ ♪ >> tech: at safelite autoglass we know that when you're spending time with the grandkids every minute counts. and you don't have time for a cracked windshield. that's why we show you exactly when we'll be there. saving you time, so you can keep saving the world.

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>> tucker: during a recent speech of the national sheriff's association, attorney general jeff sessions praised position of sheriff as, quote, a critical part of the anglo american heritage of law enforcement, end quote. of course that's literally true. america has an english justice system we inherited it. america does not have a chinese or nigerian or iranian system. actually that's one of the main reasons people from china and nigerian and iran want to come here so badly. our english system of justice makes this a great country. any immigrant will tell you that. just don't tell the morons

on the left. they think an english justice system is somehow racist. senator brian shats of hawaii not a genius tweeted this quote do you know anyone who says an grow american heritage in a sentence? for the chief law enforcement officer to use a dog whistle like that is appalling. it's pretty funny, senator shats probably doesn't know it but the hawaiian state flag has a union jack in it clearly racist we do know someone who used the phrase anglo american which should be a crime he did it anyway and used it in a sentence it was 2006, barack obama actually praising habeas corpus as a key part of anglo american legal system. apparently that was a dog whistle to his fellow white supremacists. too many dumb people on tuition. we're going to end tonight's program with congratulations to one of our favorite people. key member of our team on this kelly mcnally senior booker in this program and beloved in the building. responsible for a lot of the people. she got engaged in past weekend to ray innery who is

a very lucky man. congratulations, kelly, you are the best and everybody thinks that tune in every night at 8:00 to the show. >> sean: major breaking news. fox news alert. market research spies paid $100,000 to a shadowy russian last year in exchange for stole nsa documents and for so-called compromising material on president trump. so, in other words, we are american deep state spie -- were american deep state spies paying for dirt. why the democrats memo was not released late last week. liberals set the trap for the trump administration by inincluding sources and methods. only problem for them, the president didn't fall for this. raising questions about former national security advisor susan