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tommy, you are so in trouble, still outnumbered. look at her, she is priceless. can't wait to meet her. enjoy those girls, tommy. that's all the time we have tonight. shannon bream is up next. good night from washington. take it away. >> shannon: it is so nice to ended on a beautiful happy note. we need that good news. congrats to tommy and his wife. here is what we have coming up tonight. >> let's have a plan that is going to pass a law, not pass a bill. >> neither side is going to get everything they want, but that's why it's called a negotiation. >> shannon: is a free-for-all as the senate begins or where open debate on immigration. at stake, the fate of nearly 2 million so-called dreamers. iowa senator joni ernst and six of her g.o.p. colleagues have loathed until mike rolled out a new claim to secure and succeed on immigration. she joins us live. plus. >> let's see how badly wanted. >> shannon: president trump
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was not a budget blueprint. even as the administration continues to grapple with questions over the rugged mike resignation of a white house staffer. she's been called a showstopper. the ivanka trump of north korea. just last month her brother kim jong un was threatening the u.s. with nuclear weapons. tonight a debate over whether the media should be fawning over the sister of a murderous dictator. and one night court convenes, fame or fortune. when you only want one of those things. the case of a new hampshire woman trying to hold onto a half billion dollar jackpot without giving up her identity. ♪ >> shannon: hello and welcome to "fox news @ night." i'm shannon bream in washington. it could be all talk and no action, but that's exactly what the senate's top republican promise to do as lawmakers began an open-ended debate on
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immigration tonight. a process that could affect nearly 2 million illegal immigrants. we will try to bring it together concepts, and proposals lauded by president trump and law markers themselves trying to pull it all together into one sort of deal. but is that possible? a look at what is and what probably isn't. good evening, leland. >> good evening. started with some good news. that is that virtually every senator, not just republican, and the president agree that they want to agree, just take a listen. >> democrats are fully committed to protecting dreamers and we have long supported effective border security. >> i wanted to daca separate so we could talk about it and make a deal. >> there it is. the president and the senate minority leader agreeing, so it should be easy, right? well not so fast. drill down and you will find that they don't even agree on what this deal would cover. on the table, what to do with the so-called dreamers, a
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million plus people brought here illegally when they were kids. plus, what to do with their parents, also here illegally. a border security package including the president's wall. hard-line republicans hope to end immigrants ability to sponsor family members later, so-called chain migration. what to do with the visa lottery program and calls by the president for preference to hire skilled immigrants. with that list in mind, now listen to the very same people. >> we want border security and the other elements that you know about. we think there's a good chance of getting daca done if the democrats are serious and they actually want to do it. >> the only enemy here is overreach. now is not the time -- not the time nor the place to reform the entire legal immigration system. rather, this is the moment for a narrow bill. >> in an unusual move, the senate will debate immigration over the coming weeks without a prewritten bill on the table.
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in a perfect world, majority leader's mitch mcconnell's decision would create the best opportunity for compromise. now consider this. house speaker paul ryan says he will only bring a bill to the house that has president trump's support. many conservative members of the house have serious questions about any bill that could conceivably make it out of the senate. enter now seven conservative republican senators who have their own proposal, among them tom cotton of arkansas, often seen as the president's hard-line voice on immigration. we don't have that sound bite, but he says that we want border security and other elements he says, that among other things, the president's framework is not an opening bid in negotiations. he now calls it the best and final offer. the problem is that no matter what the offer is, republicans need some democrats to go along. republicans have already had two
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recent victories, both on government shutdown, also on this recent spending bill. now they want the trifecta with a victory on the immigration reform itself. shannon. >> shannon: thank you, leland. as he just mentioned, a group of seven senators introduced a framework for immigration and daca recipients today. it's called the secure and succeed act and it mirrors the white house framework. joining me now is a cosponsor of that piece, republican senator senator of iowa. thank you so much for being back with us. >> thank you so much. >> shannon: we want to give people -- a pathway to citizenship. $25 billion for border security trust fund. you will limit chain migration, not get rid of it, but then reallocate diversity visa lottery slots as well. it sounds a lot like we heard from the white house. some tweaks. >> it does mirror with the white house has put out previously. we are excited about the opportunity to really work on this legislation.
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we think that it will be a good pathway forward for those daca recipients and important for the folks back in iowa, that it does have border security and protections in place in this bill as it is. we are excited. >> shannon: how do you respond to those who say, but you are not getting the wall, per se. >> we are. in certain areas of course there will need to be a physical structure. but in other areas, that may not be necessary, so we can rely on other technologies like radar, overhead security with unmanned vehicles or aerial vehicles. other ways of making sure that we are protecting, adding additional border agents. we don't have to have a physical wall in every location. >> shannon: i want to play a little bit of water congressman jim jordan, one of the conservative members in the house had to say this weekend on "fox news sunday." chris wallace asked him about the proposals we've seen coming out of the senate. here's how he responded. >> what's being proposed in the senate is not going to be
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acceptable to conservatives in the house. it's not going to be acceptable to the american people. if they do legislation like what is chairman good life legislation, congressman labrador -- congressman mccall mccall. if they put that kind of legislation on the floor you will see conservative support that because, again, it's consistent with what the american people elected us to do in 2016. >> shannon: >> shannon: a few ho get this through the senate, but if it goes to the house you know you're going to face some serious opposition there. a lot of folks what they termed what they see as amnesty, 1.8 million who are here illegally. how do you answer those concerns? >> i would answer that by saying you can't give amnesty to someone who hasn't broken the law. the daca recipients were brought here by their parents, who broke the law, but the children of those parents, they did not do anything wrong. they are here, they are living in our communities, they are providing great services whether
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as our children's classmates, they are churchgoers, they are volunteering in the community. they're going to college. so many of them are providing back to their communities. they haven't broken the law, so what we want to to to do is fia pathway forward for them and i see it as a great opportunity. if you look at the sponsors of this bill, i would say they are all very strong conservatives. >> shannon: that's true, and a couple of them have lost some endorsements by conservative groups. i want to read a little bit from one group that is not happy about this. if they're going after senator scott and grassley, two of your sponsors on this as wel well. by attempting to triple obama's daca amnesty and make that an abomination against our constitution into a permanent law, the senators and the trump administration arbitrating republican voters on a massive scale. americans want our existing immigration laws enforced, not new elaborate promises designed to sugarcoat and pass an amnesty bill for illegal aliens.
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>> again, i would push back a little bit because these were children that were brought here. no fault of their own and the 1.8 million is an approximate number. we know that there are daca-eligible young men and women out there that did not come forward and register, so to make sure all of them are included, if they would like to participate in a pathway forward, then they would need to come forward. the large number, while it may seem large to some, we are thinking at least it's all inclusive. and we won't have to go back and readdress some of the concerns later on. but again, these are members of our community. we do value them, and we want to make sure we are doing the right thing by them. >> shannon: it sounds like there is some bipartisan happiness on the senate side that the leader, senator mcconnell is going to open us up for amendments and out to be a very collaborative process. we know it will take time but we will track your proposal as it works through the process. >> thank you, i appreciate it so
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much. >> shannon: good to see you. the president unveiled his new budget proposal today featuring an initiative aiming at what he fixing what he calls our country's crumbling roads and bridges. ed henry joins us live. good evening. >> great to see you. the big picture is president trump is proposing a new budget. it should be alarming to conservative deficit hawks because with republicans running the house and the white house, that is going to come nowhere close to getting rid of the annual budget deficit that the president repeatedly promised to get rid of. a president right now who wants to build off the momentum of that tax cut victory, to move on to infrastructure, which could have the twin benefit of giving him another win while also turning the page from the rob porter scandal that has been hounding this white house for several days. but this infrastructure plan is going to cost a lot of money and add even more to that deficit, even if the president today extolled all the upside to getting this done, bowing to not just rebuild those roads, bridges and airports, but a comfort campaign promise when doing that but also cutting more federal regulations, bringing
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power back to the states. the plan calls for up total of 1.5-$1.7 trillion infrastructure investment. it's not all federal money. 200 billion in seed money for grants. they want to spur private investment. government also investing 50 billion in rural infrastructure development, part of rich will bring broadband to farms all across the country, yet democrats are arguing this is just not enough federal law money. >> the trump plan as the skin of an infrastructure plan, but it lacks the guts. the lack of direct investment that leave out large parts of america, particularly rural america were local governments don't have the money or the traffic to attract private sector investment. >> as of a couple of months ago we have spent $7 trillion in the middle east. $7 trillion. what a mistake. and we are trying to build roads and bridges and fixed bridges that are falling down and we
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have a hard time getting the money. it's crazy. >> as for that rob porter story, sarah sanders tried at least to shut the door on it once and for all by existing officials were misled but once they learned the full extent of the abuse last evening he was gone within 24 hours. as for why the president has offered support for porter and he has not spoken out against domestic violence, she said she speaks on behalf of the president, he relayed that opposition to it domestic violence. she related to the press, she basically said let's move on, i suspect they will not do that. >> shannon: i suspect you're right. thank you very much. some good news for the markets after the roller coaster wall street was on last week, all three major industries finished with broad-based gains today. the dow rose 410 points, the s&p 500 at a 36 and the nasdaq gained 107 points. president trump's infrastructure and budget plan is getting some of the credit, but experts are cautioning that the market volatility may not be over just
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yet. president trump's daughter-in-law vanessa trump is doing well tonight hours after she was sent to a manhattan hospital after opening a letter addressed to her husband that contained a suspicious white substance. if testing new york city police found the white powder to be nonhazardous. donald trump jr. expressed his gratitude for his family safety on twitter tonight but added truly disgusting that certain individuals choose to express their opposing views with such disturbing behavior. the fight against the opioid crisis is getting some unlikely help as the maker of oxycontin plans to stop promoting the drug to doctors. purdue pharmacist said it has also cut its sales staff in half. been creating stomach treating chronic pain for more than two decades and has ended up at the center for the opioid crisis. they are facing multiple lawsuits filed by city and state officials alleging they misrepresented the risks. just as ruth bader ginsburg spoke to the national constitution center and the university of pennsylvania law school in celebration of what will soon be at the 25th
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anniversary of her supreme court nomination and confirmation. covering a wide variety of topics, ginsberg touched on the #metoo campaign and said it's "staying power." >> my hope is not just that it is here to stay, but that is as effective for the woman who works as a maid in a hotel as it is for hollywood stars. >> shannon: ginsberg has come under fire recently for comments about the 2016 election, blaming sexism for hillary clinton loss. president obama's former national security advisor is back in the spotlight. up next, an email she sent on president trump's inauguration day is raising a lot of eyebrows. plus, her brother is a brutal dictator, and she is part of his and administration. so should the media be fawning over kim jong un's sister? we will debate.
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>> shannon: republicans on the senate judiciary committee are raising new questions about why president obama's national security advisor susan rice sent
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herself an email the day of president trump's inauguration documenting a conversation with the president two weeks earlier concerning the fbi-trump investigation. her email emphasized president obama telling all involved to proceed "by the book." committee chairman lindsey graham and chuck grassley now want rice to explain what they are calling an unusual email. the revelation comes as house democrats are pushing for a release they say counters the republican one that raises serious questions and concerns about fbi surveillance of the trump campaign volunteer. jordan -- joins us live, good to see you. >> hey, shannon. >> shannon: i will read a little bit from the grassley-graham letter. they say this was sent at about 1215 on inauguration day. "president obama began the conversation by stressing his continued commitment to ensuring that every aspect of this issue is handled by the intelligence
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and law enforcement communities "by the book." the president stressed that he's not asking or initiating -- he reiterated that our law enforcement team needs to proceed as it normally would buy the book." what does that email say to you, if anything? >> why was the president at this meeting? i don't want to do anything, i don't want to ask anything. i'm not asking anything. this we know is about trump and russia because the briefing that came just before that the senators reported in their letter to susan rice. again, two weeks and a day later, her last act as national security advisor on the day that president trump was being inaugurated, the minute that she's got left in the white house, she memorializes a meeting from two weeks ago. i tend to believe -- this is my honest belief on this. this was susan rice's attempt to blunt someone who either saw
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this meeting taking place, may have been someone on the outskirts of the meeting. not a principle, but someone who attended. and then ultimately this would come up so she wanted to memorialize it so that this did not look like something the white house under the obama administration was trying to hide. she remembered to do it right before she lost her job. >> shannon: it's interesting, because the senators then spell out a long list of questions they have that they say this email raises. they are giving her until february 22nd i believe it is to respond. we will see. we will keep an eye on that. in the meantime, we will probably have action much somewhere on this democratic memo that went to the white house. the president said on friday on friday we want to release it, but the doj has actually raised objections, so we need you to go back to square one, work on the memo. we want to get it released, but it's got to have some national security issues addressed. here's what the top democrat on the house intel committee says about that. >> other methods and problems with the memory submitted?
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>> we are going to sit down with the fbi and go through any concerns that they have in any legitimate concerns over sources and methods we will redact. >> to do that before you submitted a memo? >> yes we did. unlike the republicans, we gave the fbi and the department of justice our memo even before we took it up into committee. >> shannon: even still, by the time i got the latest, apparently there were still some concerns. does it sound like a good development to you that now the democrats are going to take another swing at this and then maybe we will all get to see the two sides of this story? >> sure. i think everybody including the president has said we want to see this memo released. i think this was a political ploy by the democrats. they were thinking two steps and president trump was thinking three steps out of them. their first up was they were open with a ten page memo -- by the way, the fbi said that even after the release of the house memo, which they had objections to, i'm not trying to hide that, they did. even after the release of that three and a half page memo, they had serious problems with this
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ten page memo. it included more information, obviously, and we believe it's a political ploy that they wanted either one, the president to say absolutely not, i'm not going to release this. he didn't do that. or two, have his own white house counsel and legal team redacted themselves so that the president and united states of the white house what's in the democrats back a memo which, as we've gotten used to with the government, lots of blacked out pages or sections blacked out. and instead, what what the president trump to? he said adam schiff and democrats, go work with the fbi. as you saw in that interview, that's exactly what adam schiff has said he's going to do. is willing to sit back down. ultimately that memo will come out so long as the democrats, i guess, take the advice of the fbi. it seems like they're willing to do that. i think they tried to play president trump and they got played. >> shannon: quickly, do you think that we ultimately get the whole batch of material, the fisa applications, all the underlying documents, or do you think so much reduction would have to take place we couldn't even make sense of them?
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>> we do know a lot about this, unlike any other fisa cases. we've gotten some memos, with gotten some names. we know who signed off on the wards. we know from andrew mccabe's testimony the dossier was the basis, the only way they would go after a fisa warrant and the court. it is unique. there are two ways this could happen under the current system of law. one is the court can do it. so a judge on the fisa court who overheard these cases are granted these warrants to surveilled carter page based off the dossier could say this is absurd, and pretty upset by what i'm hearing and can actually do this on their own. they can release this. they have to make the right actions, but they can release it, and they may consult the executive, but they don't have to. they don't have to go to the white house. they could just release it. the second way is if the house intelligence committee was able to get their hands on this, they could go through the same process they did through the memo, vote on it and then send it to the white house. it may have a lot of reactions,
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but ultimately this may be the only way to settle this issue. i think the democrats are having a tough time with their ten page memo. i learned in law school if you can't respond to a three and a half page memo with a two page memo you've got some problems. >> shannon: we will watch and see because it seems like all sides are saying they wanted out there. we will see if they all make good on that. thank you very much. >> thanks. >> shannon: threatens that the u.s. with nuclear weapons. why would the media go gaga for the north korean dictator sister? she is also part his ruling regime. we will discuss after the break. plus why the unveiling of a portraits left manyth speechles. . vicks vaporub. goodnight coughs.
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that some felt went astray. hello. >> you might think the high point of the winter olympics would be some phenomenal athletic achievement, but according to "usa today," the most indelible memory of the games could be the cheerleaders from north korea. abc news also thought kim jong un's army of beauties come into the spotlight and yet the heaping praise piled on the cheer squad paled in comparison to the glowing reviews of the sister of kim jong un, who cnn suggested was "stealing the show. "the new york times" wrote that she turns on the charm, which prompted g.o.p. senator lindsey graham to tweet "kim jong un has to be tremendously pleased with the coverage his sister received from the international media. frankly, coverage has been over the top. but the media did manage to balance the rave reviews of north korea with scathing reviews of the u.s. cnn even used a north korean
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source to blast mice vice prest mike pence. >> the biggest insult the north korean state is the vice president chose to stay seated and he didn't clap when the unified olympic corinthian didn't lap -- my source called it an undignified act that the greater the status of the united states. >> cnn also criticized penn's part inviting him to the games. he is the father of auto warm beer, the student who was imprisoned by north korea until he was sent home with severe brain damage. he says he didn't come to make a political statement, saying north korea's actions speak for themselves. here he is. >> civilized country does this. i'm telling the truth about the regime's treatment of my son, but guess what? they do this to countless other people. >> including kim jong un's own people, who according to south korea are stark, oppressed and executed by the thousands just to "keep them in line.
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yet despite the public chill between the u.s. and north korea during these games, "the washington post" says private meetings in south korea could lead to direct talks between the u.s. and pyongyang. secretary of state rex tillerson says it's too early to tell them that it's really up to the north koreans to decide when they are ready to engage. and finally it's worth noting that while north and south kore south korea's joint women's hockey team may not take on the gold. a member of the international olympic committee says they should be nominated for a nobel peace prize. >> shannon: we have seen some interesting winners before. thank you very much. what about all that media praise for kim jong un sister? let's talk about it with washington times opinion editor and fox news contributor charles hurt, who was already chuckling. and the former director of strategic communications for hillary clinton, adrian elrod. thank you both for coming in. adrienne, what did you make of this over the weekend? it got a lot of attention on social media. >> it got a lot of attention and
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it was really irresponsible that some of the national media organizations were glamorizing her, portraying her as somebody -- i don't know if it was because she doesn't maybe look the part of what they think a dictator may look like, if she was a little bit more glamorous in her appearance than they thought. it was really, really irresponsible. she is the sister of the most brutal dictator in the world who has done horrifying things to the people of north korea and of course to some american citizens as well. it's really irresponsible. >> shannon: the truth is she's part of the regime, she's part of the rolling party. some kind of title, minister of propaganda. she's not just an innocent bystander who happens to be the sister of the sky. she is actively involved. >> exactly. for once i think the internet got it right. this is akin to eva braun showing up at the 36 olympics. honestly, it's amazing to look at the coverage of this and not
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only how stupid it is and how shallow it is, but have totally un-american it is. the disdain for freedom that is revealed in all of this i think is pretty shocking. but i do think -- to bring it back to sort of modern politics in america, it's why donald trump on the presidency, because he spotted this in the media and he went after this exact thing in the media and managed to beat both democrats and republicans and largely on that message i think. >> shannon: the senator also said this, to call her and the kim regime anything less than a tyrannical family and killer does the world community at large and the people of north korea suffering under their rule a great disservice. that's what we have to remember here regardless of what made your outfit you're coming from. there are millions of people there who have no freedom. a lot of them no food or electricity. >> absolutely. i think senator graham was spot on in his tweet.
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there are also a lot of democrats and republicans were both largely panned the way some of the media has been covering this. some progressive media outlets that have banned other media outlets for the wedding handle this. to cover his sister is anything but a horrifying member of this terrible regime that has done deplorable things to people in north korea and other people and well, including american citizens, it's completely responsible. >> shannon: let's take this much later because today with the portrait on billings for the former president barack obama, former first lady michelle obama. there were mixed reviews. there were a lot of people who had things to say. in "the new york times," their art critic wrote that mr. wiley depicts mr. obama not as a self-assured standard issue bureaucrat, but as an alert and trouble thinker. his is the one where he's in the nice chair, he sorted in the middle of a bunch of plants. and then this is what they said. we will join some of that. this is what he said about the
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first lady. to be honest, i was anticipating, hoping for a bolder, more incisive image of the strongest person i imagine this former first lady to be. let's show both of these so people can see what we are talking about. to be fair, the artist or to the president, former president, he said all those flowers represent -- they are from kenya hawaii in chicago and places in his life. charlie, you look a little skeptical. i think it looks like the former president. >> the likeness of him is very interesting, and i think good. but then they stick him in a wall of iv, which i don't really understand. the flowers may represent different things, but the idea doesn't i don't think really. and then of course the one of her, it's just so flat and fun dynamic that it's kind of hard to really get a sense of her. i don't think it really looks like her even. but at the end of the day, what
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i find bothersome about both of them if they are both kind of a statement. when i think of his presidency -- i don't mean this entirely as a negative. his presidency was very much of a statement. i guess in that sense it's accurate, but i don't see these two things holding up very well over time. >> shannon: quickly from you? >> i think these portraits are absolutely beautiful. he was the first african-american elected president of the united states. these are portraits that will be sitting in the national portrait gallery for eternity. i think they wanted something a little different. they want with two very creative -- a little unconventional, and they went with two very creative artists who have been socially active on a number of issues and i think they reflected their unique viewpoint of these two people. again, children will be coming into this museum for years and years and will look up to these portraits is the first african-american family who occupy the white house. >> shannon: thank you both very much. good to see you.
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the american-made f-16 was on an air raid over syria on saturday when it was struck by debris from antiaircraft fire. the aircraft crashed on the israel side of the border. the pilot and navigator injected to safety, global residents were alarmed. >> we didn't know this was a jet. if we heard a terrible boom and to add to this, there was a siren. we knew that something was going on in the north. it's a feeling like we are at war. >> the fighter jet was on a mission to destroy and iranian mobile drone launcher. only hours earlier israel said and iranian drone crossed into israeli airspace. israel released videos showing what it says is the girl being shot out of the sky by one of its apache helicopters. iran denied having anything to do with the drone and called the israeli versions of events ridiculous. israel's prime minister didn't buy it. >> israel holds iran and its syrian host responsible for today's aggression. we will continue to do whatever
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is necessary to protect our sovereignty and our security. >> in addition to going after the launch site, israel targeted other military facilities operated by syria and its iranian allies. although israel lost in f-16, roughly half of syria's air defenses were reportedly destroyed. russia, which has troops in syria supporting the regime urged all parties to exercise restraint and to avoid actions that could make the situation worse. the u.s. state department condemned iran and reaffirmed israel's right to defend itself. despite the rhetoric, u.s. secretary of state rex tillerson, who was in the reason, has no plans to visit the jewish state. >> shannon: david lee miller, thank you. president trump offering condolences today to russian president vladimir putin over that deadly crash of a russian airliner. all 65 passengers and six crew members died when the plane crashed minutes after takeoff sunday. investigators have rolled out terrorism as the cause of the
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crash. next up, a new hampshire woman's costly pursuit of privacy. at the powerball winner risking millions to remain anonymous. our legal eagles debate that case next in night court. it later, leave it to alcohol to bring two opposing parties together. ♪ hold together. a little to the left. 1, 2, 3, push! easy! easy! easy! (horn honking) alright! alright! we've all got places to go! we've all got places to go! washington crossing the delaware turnpike? surprising. what's not surprising? how much money sean saved by switching to geico. big man with a horn. fifteen minutes could save you
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>> shannon: night court is now in session. last week we told you about the woman who wants the fortune but not the fame. after winning $560 million in a powerball jackpot the new hampshire woman has filed a lawsuit to protect your privacy after finding out that she can't remain anonymous if she redeems her ticket. she thought she was doing the right thing when she signed the ticket, locked it away and then called the lawyer, but it turns out by signing it with her real name in no means she will have to go public to collect the more than half a billion dollars. every day she's not collecting it she's actually losing tens of thousands of dollars in interest. if so does she have a chance now at preserving our privacy? the case heads to court tomorro tomorrow. our legal eagles will figure it out. fox news legal analyst mercedes and eric chase, criminal defense attorney. great to have you folks with us. pick a great to be on. >> thank you. >> shannon: i want to talk a little bit about what is in her
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complaint, why she's trying out to get her privacy. her attorney says this. without the aid of counsel, petitioner went to the commission website, read the instructions on the back of her winning ticket. she learned that the ticket was a bear instrument until such time as a signature is placed in the designated area. following the commission's instructions, she signed the back of the ticket and later on contacted counsel. where did she go wrong? >> unfortunately for her she didn't continue reading the ticket. it said very clearly that she could put it in a trust, thereby avoiding densification, but she didn't continue reading that. it's very clear in the instructions. if you go on the website it does talk about claiming her ticket, what the instructions clearly say is if you can put it in a trust then you avoid this whole issue about disclosing your identity. she didn't continue reading it, so it's unfortunate. unfortunately for her she didn't continue reading it. she's going to lose tomorrow.
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>> shannon: the three of us would say you got that call your lawyer first. before you make any big decisions. i can understand how she would see this thing and say unless i sign it, what if i drop it and someone else picks it up, i will lose everything. i better sign this thing and put it away. the state is not so convinced. the attorney general there in his filing says jane doe argues that winning in excess of a half a billion dollars is life altering money and that she prefers to live as normal a life as possible. the opportunity for life altering money is the essence of a large jackpot such as powerball. her life will be altered with her her name is released or not. her understandable yearning for normalcy after entering a lottery to 100s of millions of dollars is not sufficient basis to shut the public out of the business of the government. they are saying the matter what this is going to change her life and when you win a half a billion dollars you have to know that. >> imagine what she was going through at the moment she looked at her ticket and realized she had just won over half a billion
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dollars. the decision-making process was not as good as it should have been. and of course she made the mistake, but the lottery commissioner's comments are just way out of line. there is a mechanism for remaining anonymous. that's the use of the trust as has already been pointed out. his comments about the fact that the life is going to be changed, her name should come out, they are just off the mark. the question here is should she be penalized for making a very minor mistake in the excitement of that moment signing the back of the ticket. at one of the important things to remember is that she called the commission first and the commission gave her advice, very bad advice. as they say in the filings, and her filings, her lawyer said it is akin to legal advice. they may even be some type of an argument that the commission cannot now argue that that mistake is going to prevent her from protecting herself. aren't we supposed to be looking at what the ultimate outcome
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should be? if there's a mechanism for protection and she wants to use it, she should. i think ultimately she will be allowed to do so. >> shannon: i started going flashbacks to law school, but these are important legal arguments. there are number of states that will allow you to remain anonymous. others that will allow you to do this through a trust, but the vast majority of states want people to know who the winners are. they want you to stay in stand there with the big fake check because the publicity help them sell more tickets. any chance they are able to convince this judge otherwise? >> doubtful, because frankly it's all about transparency. anybody that has ever litigated with the government, it's all about transparency. they have to go forward, this is what happens when you purchase these lottery tickets. it's clear in the walls. great that you may have an argument, but frankly it doesn't stop the fact that the instructions are so clear. you go on the website, it's clearly defined for anyone that wins the lottery, what they have to do to ensure there are nonentity. she didn't comply with what was
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stated very clearly on those instructions. it's unfortunate for her. >> shannon: what you make of those who say by bringing this lawsuit -- first of all, she is losing money on the interest she would collect. she's not collecting this thing. her team is arguing they need to get this resolved. but what about those who say that by doing this she's actually drawing so much attention that if she loses, as mercedes predicts, no everyone in the world is going to want to know who this woman was? >> first, let's forget about the 14,000 approximate dollars she's losing a day from her 500 plus million dollar fortune. i'm not worry swayed by that argument. this is not about transparency. this is about rules and new hampshire does allow for the use of a trust. if you have to publish the winner, but the winner can be a trust. the problem is she didn't properly execute the procedure and will the judge ultimately excuse her either because the commission advisor, or because
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it's a mistake that is so small. you will have the transparency that's required by the new hampshire law. >> shannon: this goes to trial tomorrow. we will watch and see how this night court case turns out in reality. in the meantime, thank you both for the preview, great to see you tonight. >> great to see you. >> shannon: at home, let us know what you think. we want to see how you, the jury out there, would rule on this. in the meantime, mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer. paraded barbs today over a very contentious topic, bourbon. more on their lighthearted spat after this break. ♪ nothing relieves more symptoms than alka seltzer plus maximum strength liquid gels.
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might not realize we have in common. bourbon! it turns out that brooklyn, where i was born, raised, and still proudly live, produces some of the best bourbon in the world. [applause] >> there is no such thing as brooklyn bourbon. >> shannonr: there is no such thing as brooklyn bourbon. there's a whole lot more to that story. it turns out that step from brooklyn may have actually come from kentucky, at least in some part of the process. back to reality for those two. they came back to washington to get back to work on that open-ended immigration debate which started tonight. they voted on it and it apparently is going to allow amendments and all kinds of input from both sides. although, all sides now say what passes in the senate is going to have a much tougher time in the house. so we'll keep an eye on that. the president's infrastructure and budget proposal, as well. all the happenings here in
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washington. we are glad you are closing and i had with us. most bots, most trusted, most grateful you spent the evening with us. good night from washington. for "fox news @ night," i am shannon bream. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: well, good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." you may think the media are only capable of skepticism and loathing. think again. journalists can love, too. latest crush is the democratic people's republic of north korea. kim yo jong is at the winter olympics this week. according to the press, she is a huge star. bigger star even than our vice president, mike pence, or for that matter bigger than the actual athletes. don't believe it, consider some of these descriptions from "the washington post: "the ivanka trum

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