washington. we are glad you are closing and i had with us. most bots, most trusted, most grateful you spent the evening with us. good night from washington. for "fox news @ night," i am shannon bream. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: well, good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." you may think the media are only capable of skepticism and loathing. think again. journalists can love, too. latest crush is the democratic people's republic of north korea. kim yo jong is at the winter olympics this week. according to the press, she is a huge star. bigger star even than our vice president, mike pence, or for that matter bigger than the actual athletes. don't believe it, consider some of these descriptions from "the washington post: "the ivanka trump of north

korea captivates." from cnn, she is stealing the show. the "new york times" sayse "she turns on the charm." reuters, the news wire, meanwhile, writes this, "north korea has emerged as the early favorite to grab one of the winter olympic's most important medals, the diplomatic gold." ugh. the reporters gushed over the last totalitarian state, mike pence, who again is the states, was attacked for not standing up to honor north korean athletes, watch. >> my thought was that mike pence said it was inappropriate to make political statements ate sporting events.po [applause] >> if you are in korea, you need to stand up. you need to stand up and show respect. the olympics are supposed to be the one place where politics is not supposed to play a part. that's my understanding. [applause] >> tucker: if you are surprised, you shouldn't be. progressives have a long and dishonorable history of supporting the world's's most repressive regimes.

no exaggeration. "new york times" supported joseph stalin even as he was murdering uped to 12 million ukrainians in the famous famine there. that paper led the cheering for fidel castro as he turned cuba into a police state. in 1975, we're not making this up when khmer rouge swept to power, the "new york times" made this prediction in a headline, quote: for most, a better life. one of the worst general sides in history followed shortly thereafter. turned out not to be true. it's hard to find a dictator the left has not supported. chairman mao, hugo chavez, they all hate america. progressive activists also have one thing in common, they resent their fathers. that's where their politics come from. the rest is just window dressing. a weekly communist newspaper that supports the north korea regime where she has visited, she joins us tonight. t deidre, thanks for coming on. you are a long time communist. long time supporter of the

dprk. you visited at the invitation of the government. you think its leaders are great. when you see cnn and reuters agreeing with you that its leaders are great, that must validate you? i mean, you must cheer as you watch the olympic coverage. >> i have been to both north korea and south korea and i'm on this program because i want to talk to the w people who watch your show and make a serious point that we're in the process of moving towards a nuclear war. and they have never experienced that but the korean people know very much what war is like and they are not for it. and the people of south korea don't want war any more than the people of north korea do. and they showed that at the olympics, in the opening ceremonies when they cheered with great joy the fact that the north and the south were marching together. >> tucker: so since have you

been to both countries, i'm wondering. one is the last regime. pretty rigidly marxist. south korea is flooredly capitalist. market based economy which, of course, you reject. which country would you rather live in personally? >> i won't try to answer, debate you on everything have you said. >> tucker: notin debating you. that's a sincere question. >> you got the whole hour. i only have a couple ofe minutes. but what i want to talk about -- >> tucker: you're not going to answer the question? >> what i want to talk about is what i think is really an importance to the people of this country. that is that there is a group in washington that really wants to push for a war.r. the korean people don't want it. people here don't want a war. but they don't know what a war is like. they think you just push a button somewhere. that's not true. >> tucker: i have never said this to a communist before but i actually agree with you. i don't want a war in korea. >> good. >> tucker: i think there are people in washington who are pushing for it, i think you are absolutely right there. where i disagree with you, we don't know what the people of north korea want because they are not allowed to say what they want. >> that's bologna.

>> tucker: really? do they have internet access there? oh, they don't. >> i've been there. they know what's going on in the world. they know perfectly well what is going on in the world. >> tucker: how would they know? it's illegal to watch a foreign movie there. >> you are making up a lot of stuff. >> tucker: is that not true?re >> people of north korea very aware of what is going on in the world. north korea has a 100 percent literacy rate. did you know that? >> tucker: i did, yeah. >> i got that figure from the cia fact book if youur wants to check it out. i've seen that -- >> tucker: i've seen that as well. if you can't read anything but the propaganda -- >> they have universe at universal medical care. they are not in some kind of jail. they want to get underneath from the threat of war that the u.s. has posed ever since it invaded their country -- >> tucker: i know you don't want to debate but i'm assuming you don't want to answer real questions. let's try a couple of them. if they are free, why can't they

leave? it's a fair question. >> people go back and forth. you are taking this in a whole other direction that shouldn't be of any significance to people here for. >> tucker: wait, why does it look -- you are up here speaking, hold on. >> people in washington who are for a war. why do you think they are for a war? >> tucker: that's one of the questions i haven't been able to answer for 35 years here. one question i have been able to answer simply is this north korea a free place a place you would want to live or is it a prison? do you know what the imprisonment rate in north korea is, 800 per 100,000? >> do you know what the imprisonment rate in the u.s.? >> tucker: it's very high. north korea is the highest, though. let me ask you a question -- >> i'm talking about the number of prisoner, the highest in the world in the united states. that's true. and the majority --

they are poor people and they wouldn't be in jail l if they hd a lawyer to get them out of jai jail. all the people in washington and wall street have lawyers. >> tucker: this is the point i'm making, no regime, no matter how oppressive, no matter how many of its own has killed, is never undefended by the left of it hates america. if-a north korea became pro-american, you wouldn't support it, would you? >> you see that this is a country that hates america. >> tucker: i would say that if north korea. i think that's fair to say -- [laughs] going out on a limb there, yes, i am. >> if they ever do what the u.s. did to korea, does korea feel good about what the u.s. did to korea? they bombed every building over onee floor. >> tucker: do you ever say to

yourself, i dislike americaca where i live more than i dislike -- > i don't dislike the peoplef this country at all. i am thinking of them as well as the people of korea. >> tucker: why make excuses? >> we shouldn't have a war against korea. >> tucker: i'm with you there. >> they are actually doing the planning -- >> tucker: let me ask you one asked question. i don't want to have to cut you off. i just want to ask you one last question. a sincere one. does it bother you at all, does it make you rethink your defense of north korea when you see is population starving and its leader dying of obesity? >> the people they are not starving. >> tucker: they just had a famine 15 years ago. >> this is a country that was left in ashes -- in ashes -- just a generation and a half ago. >> tucker: so wasey south korea. how did south korea get so built up? >> they rebuilt their country. if you look at the koreans, they

are the healthiest looking people in the world. >> tucker: except for the tapeworms. they are awesome. you know what, you should get them some dental work. >> you are telling people lies about the world. or that is what your station has done. i am not surprised by that at all. >> tucker: we are glad to have you on for some truth. great to seeee you. dr. alan mendoza's e executive director of the henry jackson society and he joins us tonight. dr. mendoza, thanks for coming w. >> a pleasure to be with you. >> tucker: do you think we are overstating it when we describe north korea as basically a person? >> no, of course not. it's basically a prison. this is the world's most repressive regime. it is indeed a prison. you can't leave, your last guest was smoking before she came on. i have to say, the most extraordinary points but together, in a sort of policy

statements. this is a state which exists and runs on terror, entrance on terror, its runs on torture, trends in imprisonment, and it runs on ensuring that the people who live there are active back end women of the regime. it is indeed a prison camp.yo you are correct. >> tucker: supply the impulse -- you've watched the reaction of the international left to a lot of these regimes over the years. why the impulse to defend, to side with, make excuses for regimes that are indefensible simply because they hate the west? >> there is an extraordinary romance of the left believes them. his story to the idea that we can convert these people someho somehow. it goes on the line that we have something in common with them. youu are right to highlight that the factof that the u.s. is free from the chief end of a newly if these regimes is something that appeals to the left, as well. take these things together.

you look at these together, and you realize that you get a complete opposite to whatt would happen if it was a right-wing regime. if that were the case, the left would be first thing we must announce them, ignore them. when it comes to someone who is purportedly anti-american, they have a very different view. >> tucker: it is strange, though. if you live in the west, in the u.k., our united states, and enjoy the fruits of the society, why devote your life to destroying it? only the west does not, right? >> absolutely. here you come toel the crux of e matter, which is, why is it that members of our society, who have so many freedoms, will go out onto a limb to defend dictators, repressive regimes, who prevent their citizens from doing it. extraordinary. what you should be seen, were true liberals should be doing, is arguing for the inhabitants of those countries or subjected to human rights abuses. getting them the same rights

that they themselves enjoy but you don't havejo that at all. >> tucker: a good point. why fathers should be nice to their children otherwise they will grow up to be progressives. they will hate you and make a whole politics out of it. thank you very much. >> my pleasure. >> tucker: the democrats fbi memo is not out yet. the white house as there is too much classified information enters. was that the democratic plan all along?he putn in classified intel and it so the white house wouldn't release it? will put that question to a congressman next. ♪ ♪ some moments can change everything. you can't always predict them, but you can game plan for them. for 150 years, generations of families have chosen pacific life for retirement and life insurance solutions to help them reach their goals. being ready for wherever life leads.

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>> tucker: there's a battle underwayve in washington over memos. democratsse have asked president trump to release their memo, a rebuttal to the nunes memo tenil days ago. the president says he will release it but at this point, the memo contains too much classified information that must be taken out or altered before the public can see it. some are saying that was the plan all along. democrats deliberately created a memo they knew couldn't be released. congressman eric small ball represents california and he joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. >> thank you for coming on after our court ordered cooling off period back. >> tucker:r: i was thinking about that today. i'm grateful you came back. ten days ago, february 2nd, the data nunes memo was released. this show called for to be released. because of that you saidr we wee working for vladimir putin. another democrats have a memo, the minority memo, and i would like to see it released. do you still think i'm working for putin know that i want your memo to be released? >> i never said that. i said that you are making the

same argument. >> tucker: but i was doing his bidding. the question is, asking for your memo to be released doing his bidding also? >> no. when you s are on the same side, you asked have to ask whose bidding are you doing? >> tucker: please answer the question. you said that because i wanted nunes' memo to become public. now i would like adam schiff and your memo to become public. am i still on putin's side? >> s it sounds like it will be a short interview because you and i agree. the memo should be public. >> tucker: the answer is if i want the republican memo to be released i'm on putin's side. but i'm on god's side what i want the democratic memo to be released? >> i think we should agree that we should get past the memo and get back to the evidence in this investigation. >> tucker: what is so striking, when nunes was releasing his memo, you said this is hurting american national security. it's averting the rule of law.

this mama that you are trying to release now has classified information, i think you'll agree that it does, the intelligence agencies he say that it says, why is there not also hurting american national security and subverting the rule of law? >> we did something that the republicans weren't willing to do.. we ask the department of justice to review it. if there's anything in there that would hurt the rule of law or national security, we want unredacted. it seems odd that the president now wants to listen to the fbi when he was willing to release the memo before even hearing from them or looking at the mem memo. >> tucker: weight.ha as a great respecter of the fbi, that is the case you've made for months, they protect your life as you sleep, how dare you question her judgment. are youul questioning your judgment?t wouldn't you want the fbi to hold that memo if they believe it imperils national security? >> we do. we are working to make any reductions necessary. the way the president has framed this is very suspicious. i want to know if he has pressured them at all to hold

back information from the american k people. >> tucker: i are you saying the fbi is subject to political pressures? i thought they were above political pressures. that's the case you've made. >> he fire the guy who was investigating him. >> tucker: all of a sudden the fbi was a political tool. i thought i was immoral for suggesting that ten days ago. it's kind of weird. >> there not a political tool. >> i thought you just said that. you said they had been pressured. didn't you just say that? >> i want to know if he is pressuring them. he can apply pressure without them being pressured. w we should work with them. this is all a. distraction. a charade, actually. we should be hearing from witnesses, it may surprise you, we haven't heard from her witness in over a month now. >> tucker: i agree. to be clear i think that classification is used for sure up people's power in washington. i think a lot of things that we should be able to see, we can't because they are classified for no good reason.

i'm very sympathetic to your case. when i'm not sympathetic to his the changing goal line. when you do something, it's great, and the national interest. when the republicanst' do the se thing, it is somehow doing the bedding of of vladimir putin. you see what i'm saying? >> tucker, the fbi said it would be extraordinarily reckless to release a memo and the president did it anyway. now they have concerns about ours and what are we doing? we are working with him. we are not going to the house floor and reading it recklessly. we are doing it because we believe in the rule of law and the institution of the department of justice.. >> tucker: why did you send it to the white house? why didn't you ask the fbi first? you could have asked them before you sent it to the white house. butt you didn't because he wantd to grandstand about it obviously. right? >> no. it's not grandstanding.t it's about an attack that occurred in our country. witnesses in this investigation

are being given information by the republicans are in us wanting to follow the rules. god forbid we have a rule of law and a process that has worked for over 200 -- >> tucker: why didn't you run the memo by the fbi before you sent it to the white house? >> t tucker, we've been followig the rules that we've been given. we are in the minority right now. >> tucker: really quick, we've been talking about this for over a year. you've suggested that the president of the people around him sold out our country to a hostile r foreign power, russia. you've presented no evidence, you've said it's either classified or the investigation is ongoing. i want to make a deal live on tv. if you have any evidence that trump or anyone around him colluded with putin to end the election, i will give you a half anan hour of this show come ali, on fox him a big audience, and you can present it.hi i mean that because this has gone on too long and i want to know what the evidence is finally. fair? >> fair, tucker. we are not looking for

collusion. that's the problem. we are attacking the process, not interviewing witnesses. if youne give us time to intervw witnesses, we could tell the country once and for all what happened. >> tucker: it's gone on ford. over a year.r. if you have any evidence at all of collusion, and he, i don't care how small it is, i will give the floor to you. i mean that. w i want to wrap it up and i'm sure you do, too. >> a lot of my conservative friends would love to see me on your show for a half-hour. >> tucker: congressman, thank you for joining us. think of my pleasure. >> tucker: president obama and the first lady michelle obama just had their smithsonian portraits revealed. they are really odd. honest.e they are weird.h we also you them to you next. of pneumococcal pneumonia. isn't it like a bad cold or flu? pneumococcal pneumonia is a potentially serious bacterial lung disease. in some cases, part of your lung

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then the president was talking about legalizing 1.82 million. where did the extra people come from? >> that started several weeks ago, actually a year ago, when tom cotton and i started talking about we f have an opportunity o fix the immigration system. when the president decided a couple months ago that he -- that obama had done the incorrect thing with daca, he said that he will put that back on the plate to congress. that is where we are. we've been working feverishly to follow up on his agenda that he laid out several weeks ago in the white house when he had democrats, republicans in the white house talking about how to fix his immigration system on the legal side. illegal immigration system. >> tucker: if we legalize that, put them on the path to citizenship and voting. previous amnesties have drawn other people. how do you stop at? >> this is not amnesty. second, if that's all you did, you wouldid not and --

>> tucker: how is it not amnesty? >> they have not violated the law. the issue is, the president made a bold move. he put this out as an offer if and only if he gets the four facets of the framework that he laid out, that includes the end of the diversity lottery, the chain migration, and border security. those are things that would preclude us from being back here again and just a few weeks. >> tucker: to immigration hawks, this seems to moderate prey to a lot of republicans, is seems that it's too fierce. can you get united republican support for this? >> we are finding out right now. this is a bill that are supported by the american peopl people. two-thirds of americans want to end the daca situation. they also want border security and chain migration. 71% believe immigration should be based on the worker, the immediate family, and the spousal lawn. president has reached out and has got a bill -- we've got a build of the president will sign into law. >> tucker: among republicans,

who would vote against this, and on what grounds? >> some people will say, we don't support a pathway to citizenship. well, this is a price to pay to end this nonsense right now and to get to a solution that will keep us from being here in a few short years. most republicans that i know we'll back this bill the way we have -- >> tucker: do you have any democrats? >> we hope so. it will be interesting to see, the interesting thing right here is that over the last 30 years, democrats in different forms have actually asked the same facets that the i president has outlined. as early as amis '90s, barbara jordanio headed up the commissin that called for an end to chain migration. >> tucker: the noted white supremacy of barbara jordan. thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: and immigration attorney joins usth tonight. jose,g thanks for coming on. the president, as you know, has put on the table and republicans, you just heard from the senator, are willing to back

up, legalizing, giving amnesty to 1.8 million people who came here legally. if that happens, if trump does sign a bill giving citizenship to these people, will you vote for trump? will anybody in that group vote for him? >> i can't vote for him because i am a daca recipient. >> tucker: i'm aware. i'm including you in that. if this goes through, you will get a path to citizenship. >> unfortunately this won't go through because the plant of the white house proposed has no legs. met with hundreds of republican officers in the house and senate, there is not enough for its -- >> tucker:es there's no doubt that a lot of republicans on the hill are adamantly in favor of open borders. that is why these people are here in the first place. i want to argue the principal. what's right and wrong. what about this bill is unacceptable? >> i want to know what happened to the president trump that campaigned who promised to be an advocate of legal immigration? this framework would radically

cut illegal immigration to levels not seen since the great depression. >> tucker: that's not s true. >> tucker:uc levels not seen 1995. h you have the wrong numbers. the point is, this bill does what specifically that you think is unacceptable? chain migration states, limited to the nuclear family, you go to bring your nuclear family, they just can't bring other people. should they be able to? >> president trump during their migration promised he wouldut pt a big, beautiful door at theio nation's border for legal family immigration. >> tucker: we get 500 -- 500,000 legal immigrants a year. what should be the number if that's not enough? >> right now we have about a million. i think the number should be slightly more. i think that -- >> tucker: why? >> a million and a half, 2 million. immigration makes this nation consistently great. 86% of the american people, including 79% of the republicans want the dreamers to stay here.

>> tucker: as long as he will throw poll numbers, which, with which i familiar, there is no group of americans that wants 2 million immigrants per year. people want less legal immigration. >> people want the daca recipients to stay. to be when he's giving citizenship to people who came here illegally, 2 million of them, and that's racist because by? i'm serious. specifically. >> the president had an opportunity to t make a deal on this, but he rejected the proposal -- >> tucker: please don't get political. i just want to talk about the policy. what about this specifically? this would prevent people from bringing their relatives who aren't part of the nuclear family. you think that people should be able to come here illegally, get amnesty, and then bring grandparents, uncles, cousins? what do you want? >> i think our system is restrictive. already you can't sponsor

grandparents, uncles, cousins. it takes decades to bring your family here. often i can't come because of collateral provisions in thee ina. we have a restrictive system already. >> tucker: you should be able to come here illegally, get amnesty, become a citizen. you snuck in the country, you are here illegally but we give you amnesty and you should be able to bring your cousins, uncles, and grandparents? >> most of the normal paths are being eliminated by the white house immigration proposal. if this white house is so committed to legal immigration -- >> tucker: these are people who camere here illegally. we have no duty to keep them, we could deport them, including you. >> i hope you bought into port makeup me, tucker. >> tucker: lots of people to part people. a lot of countries do. >> s we don't set our immigratin policies based on other countries. >> tucker: we have no moral responsibility to deal with who are citizens. people sneak in here, they are here illegally, we give them citizenship and it's immoral not to let them bring, not just their parents and siblings, but

their grandparents, uncles, and grandparents? >> this proposal what a fact even individuals who come to the united states legally. i thought the republican party was all about family but this makes it easier to break families apart. >> tucker: you don't have to come here. i don't know if you knew that. our country, you don't have to come if you don't want. >> is my country, too. >> tucker: i don't think it is. i don't think you're a citizen. >> i have property, i have degrees, i am a small business owner, do you want to kick me out? >> tucker: the basis of our country of citizenship. nothing against you personally. >>na let's create additional lel channels for people to bring their close -- >> tucker: how about we don't like people who come illegally bully us into bringing their relatives? how about american society makes the cut? >> we did. over the t course of the last 10 years, congress has established a family immigration -- >> tucker: a thank you, good to see you. good luck staying.

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them on theit screen for the viewers who aren't familiar. here is one of them. the famous decapitation, the racially fraught decapitation portrait. i wonder, you don't have to be creative, if you flip this around, that is pretty heavy-duty thing, isn't it? there's another one. this is a person. painting the obama's portraits? >> yeah, i think this is what happens when you try to be up to the moment. clearly, the apartments didn't want to -- my advice, if anyone wants to do a formal, official portrait, is to just climb into a suit, stand in front of a fireplace, or sitec in a winged chair because almost any time you try to do it differently, it comes off worse and in five years' time, you look completely ridiculous. it's like a portrait of howard dean in the state capital in vermont, which is commonly referred to as the lld in

portrait because all of the other governors are lined up looking like a bunch of stiffs who look like governors, and players ll dean looking as if he's about to go in the wilderness to communion with algonquinit natives. anything you do risks other than the conventional, risks looking ridiculous. i think in the case of president obama and front of all those leaves, that's very much the case. >> tucker:>> i should point out that has portrait was painted by a different artist from the one who painted his wife's. he made -- i don't know if you saw this. there are only nine members of the supreme court, one of them is called ruth bader ginsburg. she's a hero on the left. she recently said that sexismlas to blame for hillary losing. supreme court justices obviously typically avoid partisan political expressions. she was attending a columbia conference, and she aired her grievances.

listen. >> i think it was difficult for hillary clinton to get by the macho atmosphere prevailing during that campaign. and she was criticized in a way i think no man would have been criticized, sexism was -- played a prominent part. >> tucker: does she have evidence or is she making it up? she's a supreme court justice, i guess. >> that's the point at which i would have leapt up and said, objection, your honor, moved to strike. there is no evidence. she shouldn't be talking about this, for a start. it shouldn't be necessary to say this obviously. she's a judge. she shouldn't be doing this. this is not just political, but

it's actually speculative. she is purporting to explain, as hillary has tried to do, why hillary lost. and she's revealing that she is making assumptions about half the people who will be appearing before her bench in the court. in that sense, or speculations, as thee lawyers like to say, hae no probative value. she's a judge and she should know better than to concoct evidence based on her own assumptions. i think this is terrible. you know, i loathe the rule judges which alas, this great republic has dwindled down to. but people accept because they think they are a kind of super legislator, nine robed regents who are above the law. who are above politics. if these nine robed regions start purporting to know the minds of 100 million voters, i

think that is very disturbing. with respect, this is something know judges should be doing. she should be rebuked by the chief justice for doing it. >> tucker: i wonder what she would make of the majority of marriedd women who voted against hillary? >> you know something, that's a fact, and that fact could be laid before the court. but with this judge is doing is just actually speculating based on her own prejudices. and that's a kind of weird thin thing. for any judge, never mind one who's got this far off the chain.uc >> tucker: i agree. i think it's a serious thing and i'm glad you think so, too. mark steyn, great to see you. >> thanks a lot, tucker. s >> tucker: one professors says that you ought to stop having children for the sake of the planets. he'll join us next to explain why. stay tuned. ♪ colitis. but i realized something was missing... me.

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♪ >> tucker: want to save the planet? don't have kids. more and more people are coming to that conclusion. the new york teams has profiled the growing group of people who say they are refusing to have children because they don't want to contribute to global warming. joseph palermo is a professor of history at sacramento state university and he says that the right idea. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me, tucker. i need to make something clear before we start. i'm from sacramento. i have to give a shout out to anthony sadler, our student at south stage, who's playing himself in the new clint eastwood movie. he graduated in 2017. >> tucker: i just interviewed him! what a great guy he is! >> we are not indoctrinating the students and telling them to worry about trigger warnings and structuralism --

>> tucker: that kid is brave. >> go hornets! >> tucker: that wasn't bad. i usuallyha hate that stopper tt was a good one. >> the other thing -- i can't let you. >> i'm not a scientist, i am a historian. >> tucker: i know. let me ask you this question. here'sho the question. you think that people should have fewer kids because of global warming but all the highest birth rates are in africa. the top 15, malawi, somalia, burkina faso. you are tellingng african womeno have fewer kids? that is what you are saying. >> this is going to put a furlough in your brow, tucker, i'm telling you rightt now. although i i think that articles legitimate and that it raises some legitimate concerns, it's really a a dumb article we are

talking about because what are wewe going to do, stop reproducg the species? is not going to happen. we're going to havee children. i don't believe we should stop having children. i believe we should look to the future and look at with the markets are telling us right now, which is that renewables, solar wind, all of those, the capacity is increasing. they are saying global capacity for renewables and electricity globally by 2020, 2025, is going to be increased by 40%. there is going to be -- >> tucker: that's partly true. wind is a joke but solar is real. hold on. there are a lot of people out there who are arguing that you shouldn't have children or you want to limit the number of children you do have because of the earth and the pressure they put on the earth. i guess my question is, are you going to take this message to the countries that are having the most children, all of them in sub-saharan africa, and jericho, it's a little antihuman? isn't it?

>> i am a historian. i'm telling you, this country has been through that whole thing. it's called eugenics in the early 20th century. we don't want to go there. what we want to do is work altogether, people in all the world, to face the global problem. fox business news on december 20th was urging its readers to think about investing in alternative fuel stocks. i mean, elon musk is going to have 100,000 electric semi trucks in the next four years. he wants to produce 100,000 here. he just shot a tesla into outer space. that is the future. and the stocks are showing that, the marketss are showing -- >> tucker: so what you are saying, the stock market -- this is why i love liberals. the stock market is always right. you take a lot of your cues from the stock market? of tobacco stocks go up, his, smoking okay? >> i'm just saying, back in the day when henry ford was moving

the country to automobiles, there weren't people saying, we've got to hang onto the web and buggy industry, we moved -- >> tucker: a lot of people said that. > people moved into electric vehicles, vehicles. we just shot a car into space, man! it was so -- >> tucker: i'm not sure what that means. you are freaking me out a little bit. >> we are leaving the 19th century, going into the 20th century. >> tucker: we are almost out of time and this interview is insane.. is there anything about the future ande. technology -- >> te market has spoken. >> tucker: a new liberal position. is there anything about technology or market that makes you uncomfortable? are they always good and right? >> there's a woman running for governor in minnesota right now on economic stimulus to tackle climate change. i mean, we are moving forward. this conservative group in wisconsin, energy form -- >> tucker: nothing can go wrong. technology is always good.

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any immigrant was like that. don't all the morons on the lef left. they think in english justice system is ranked on mike racist. a senator from hawaii tweeted this... it's pretty funny. he probably doesn't know what but the hawaiian state flag has a union jack in it. clearly racist. by the way, we know someone who used the phrase anglo-american, but hee did it anyway, and he used it in a sentence. 2006, barack obama, praising habeas corpus is a key part of "anglo-american legal system." that was a dog whistle to his fellow whites and pharmacists. too many dumb people on television. we will and tonight's programul with a congratulations to one of our favorite people, a key member of our team. kelly mcnally, senior broker of this program, and beloved in the building. she's responsible for a lot of the people you see on the show. this past g weekend, she got

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