received a request to follow up and submitted in november. earlier this month they received additional finish owe and passed along. probably one of the bigger news items out of there. >> "outnumbered" starts right now. >> you've been watching a critical hearing on capitol hill. top intelligence officials including f.b.i. director christopher wray fielding tough questions on a variety of national security topics including alleged agency bias, house fisa members. this is "outnumbered". republican strategist lisa boothe is here. former deputy spokesperson for the state department and fox news analyst marie har *f. joining us on the couch press secretary ari fleischer is here and happy to have him. you are out numbered, sir. back to the couch for you. all right, always good to have

you. a lot going on this morning. let's get started. a tough round of questioning for christopher wray this morning. lawmakers demanding answers on whether or not anti-trump bias exists within the f.b.i. here is what he had to say. >> my experience now six months in with the f.b.i. has validated all my prior experiences with the f.b.i. which is that it is the finest group of professionals and public servants i could hope to work for. every day many, many, many times a day i'm confronted with unbelievable examples of integrity and professionalism and grit. there are 37,000 people in the f.b.i. who do unbelievable things all around the world. and although you would never know it from watching the news, we actually have more than two investigations. and most of them do a lot to keep americans safe. >> chief intelligence correspondent catherine

herridge has been watching all of this with us. a strong defense christopher wray of his agency there. >> it was, sandra. good afternoon. christopher wray the f.b.i. director took questions from two senior senate democrats on the committee pressing him on this issue if he would defend the bureau against what they describe as attacks by the president, describing corruption within the executive branch of the f.b.i. and that the bureau's reputation was in tatters. here is another one of those exchanges. >> i'm a big believer in the idea that the f.b.i. speaks through its work. through its cases, through the victims it protects. and i encourage our folks not to get too hung up on what i consider to be the noise on tv and in social media. >> f.b.i. director also took a number of questions again from democrats on the republican staff memo that alleged abuse under the f.b.i. and the justice department during the

2016 campaign. director wray repeated some of the comments that he put out in a paper statement about a week and a half ago that he felt the memo was somewhat misleading because there was an omission of fact. he wasn't asked about the counter memo. he has done so in a written letter to the committee democrats in the house where they outline along with the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein what they consider to be sensitive national security information that should also be redacted. one of the other big talking points in the hearing today was on russia and the bottom line there from the intelligence chiefs. russia sees what it did in the 2016 presidential election as successful and that the russians are at it again. let's listen. >> we expect russia to continue using propaganda, social media, false flag personas,

sympathetic spokesmen and other ways to build on its wide range of operations and exacerbate social and political fissures in the united states. >> one of the most emotional moments of the testimony came from the senator from maine king where he talked about the fact that at least publicly and to his knowledge privately there hadn't been any real sort of punishment with teeth against the russians for this kind of activity and he said without any kind of meaningful deterrents the russians would continue to reengage and other nations would also follow suit in this particular case. >> thank you for that. ari fleischer is on the couch with us today. did we get any answers in their testimony today? >> i think on the topic of the porter issue at the white house you have further confusion. the contradiction of time lines. i don't think the timelines is what is the essence here. did the white house make the right decision or not in

believing rod porter's denial. when it comes to the memos, collusion, of course we got no answers. we'll have to wait for mueller and the i.g., the inspector general michael horowitz on the hillary investigation. >> the hearing was wide ranging in topics discussed. what stuck out to you, lisa? >> i would remind everyone with the f.b.i.'s director response for republicans having concern with bias in the f.b.i. it wasn't too long ago that democrats shared those concerns. you had minority leader harry reid saying comey -- clearly the f.b.i. had concern, mueller had concern by demoteing some of these individuals both at the f.b.i. and also having demoted individuals at the doj and also having the inspector general, the doj inspector general having concerns enough

to look into the handling of the clinton investigation. and congress as a body is supposed to be conducting oversight. i don't think those are fair criticisms and i think these are things we should get answers on and get to the bottom of. >> today is one of those days when it's sad when i harken back to hillary clinton saying who her enemies were and picking a political party. what stood out to me today we actually have some enemies. china, russia and it was at one point when the independent senator from maine, senator king, whatever we do let's separate out the collusion investigation in russia on the trump campaign and russia actually meddling. we better get it right. they're going to do it again in the another election. it won't just be russia but china, too. those in the specer of hitting us as a nation cyber-warfare are enemies on the platform and

we should be focused on that and less on the politics. i wonder if we can do that. >> the point of this hearing is the worldwide threat briefing and gives the american people a good sense of what the intelligence community is looking at in the future. cybersecurity is a huge part of that. interesting in the 2018 mid-terms when they said we expect russia to continue their efforts. one of the questions they were pressed on that we didn't get good enough answers to whether there is a whole of government plan and approach in place to prevent that from happening again. mark warner pushed and said who is actually in charge? there was a little disagreement whether it was the f.b.i., the intelligence community. i really -- i think all americans should want them to all get together and figure out how to make sure our election is secure. >> let me separate two issues. an attack on one party is an attack on all parties. those are things that should alarm every american. social media and their interference in our election.

this is some of the soviet union have done for decades. they haven't stopped doing it. they did it repeatedly throughout the cold war on issues involving racial relations in the united states. the soviets stirred the pot. in the social media era. you can tweet anything. how do you stop it without sacrificing greater liberties? how do you say you because you are russian cannot put a political message on twitter but because you're an american you can? when i thought about speech, you need more free speech to drown out the bad speech. i worry how do you stop the russians from social media use. >> where is that discussion? >> the collusion question, we have got to make sure nobody hacks or steals. that's the attack on all of our political parties. our whole system. the social media issue i've

never heard anybody come up with a solution to stop a citizen from another nation from posting a message that talks about an american election other than drown it out with trillions of other tweets. >> facebook has been criticized for not taking it seriously enough. >> criticized for not taking it down. >> another point to bring it back to the point of the hearing the world wide threat hearing that was so wide ranging which we did get a heads-up on. there was a lot of talk about the national debt. director coats continued to bring up what a threat our surging national debt is to our national security. >> of course, because it gives other countries more of a hold on us if they share a part of our debt. we're indebted to them. of course that's a concern. we've heard -- i forget the joint chiefs of staff previously who mentioned our national debt is the biggest

national concern. that is one of our biggest national security concerns and puts the conversations that we've had in recent days into context with congress just agreeing to hundreds of billions of dollars in additional debt. raising the debt ceiling without stipulations. they are concerns and both parties speak out of both sides of their mouth on the issue. >> the iron -- irony in it was military people. it was necessary to raise the cap on military spending what we saw as making our military anemic after the sequestration. the sad point is you couldn't even get to that very important nugget without making everybody in the room happy by getting drunk on spending. i don't know how you fix it. you can't fix it in an intel hearing. it was interesting that a lot of the answers, not cyber, will come in the private meeting after 2:30 p.m. eastern do.

a chorus of we'll talk about that later. >> i'll make you a prediction. there won't be a lot of answers in that closed session either because there are no answers how do you stop people using social media to influence another country unless there is a nationality check. if you only have to be an american. i don't know what the solution is and i don't think facebook and twitter can solve the problem. >> an environment where citizens can engage in a large scale. you see political vinsment who is spending $20 million on an effort to try to impeach president trump. so we have the way our system is set up you have a lot of individuals that can easily engage and influence and shape elections. >> new fallout for the white house as the president's team is now criticizing the media's handling of the rob porter domestic controversy. what white house staffers may have known and when exactly

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chain migration and relocating the visa lottery. >> we cannot make the dreamers a blank check for a nativeist far right fringe agenda. we're willing to compromise, absolutely. border security is a must. >> the president tweeted this. negotiations on daca have gun. republicans want to make a deal. democrats say they want to make a deal. wouldn't it be great if we could finally after so many years solve the daca puzzle? this will be our last chance. there will never be another opportunity. march 5. is the president right? >> we'll see. i don't think you can see but i do think that president trump has the afwoilt get this done where his predecessor could no. he will deport people and puts democrats. if you should be deported it makes the democrats have to

compromise. >> can i have a follow up before i open it up to the couch? you worked for the former president bush. how much flavor was there or taste was there to actually go and solve this issue? >> it was huge. it was part of his campaign. september 11th derailed it. he ran on family values don't stop at the rio grande. you have to understand a mom is coming here to feed their hungry child. september 11th happen and it shifted to security. we tried to get it back in the second term. no center to be held. i am the son of an imgrant. my mother came here legally in 1939. immigrants make us a better country. we're all better off for people wanting to come to america as opposed to any other country. when people get off their couch at home to come to america those are the best. the best because they aren't willing to sit in the status quo. willing to risk their lives and limb to find something better in life. we want people like that here. we need a legal system, though,

so they come here only legally and not illegally. >> i think that is an important point that you are making but i also think it's an important point to differentiate between legal immigration and illegal immigration. too often those two issues get confused. the reality is charlie hurt made this point last week. i went back to do some research. if you look at polling the vast majority of americans agree with president trump in what he is putting forward on immigration. he was right. there is a poll recently indicating that almost 65% of americans collectively agree with president trump's plan that he outlined. for a pathway to citizenship for daca recipients it would include merit-based immigration. getting rid of diversity lottery. or even with border security. 53% of americans agreed with some sort of hybrid between a wall and some sort of electronic fence as well. so the vast majority of

americans, this isn't a fringe issue where president trump is on this issue. there is a danger for democrats in putting it forward that way. simply the facts don't bear it out. it is problematic for them entering into this debate. >> what i glean from what you're saying. we aren't looking at this from the perspective of americans having given us much more thought than we give them credit for. they look at the issue saying if this is our chance for the best deal, what's in it? >> the politics of this will get interesting because of the timing of this. we are oef in an election year and the next couple months is going to be a pretty intense fight. >> it is. the closer we get to november the harder these decisions become. on the timing there is an interesting side note here. the courts have put a stay on president trump's decision on daca so this march 5th deadline many people believe there slip into april and possibly as long as june. >> the white house is pushing back on that. they may make a situation

different through an appellate process. go ahead. >> where things stand now the courts and ruling have put a hold on the end to daca coming on march 5th. so march 5th isn't that far away in terms of congress. they're out of session next week, i believe. there is a lot of work to be done and not a lot of time. why don't we work on weekends and night? >> a handful of legislative days. >> it may keep getting pushed. the longer they wait to make tough decisions in an election year. it doesn't get easier. >> the judge that pushed the stay say it might not be on his docket until june. we'll follow this as they pop up. new questions regarding the russia investigation amid a report that one of robert mueller's legal hires is a self-described democrat and donor who also wrote for a liberal news outlet. does this raise any red flags? plus a potential twist in the russia investigation.

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>> two top gop senators are asking susan rice to explain an email she sent herself on president trump's inauguration day. that email summarized a meeting earlier that month between president obama and top intelligence officials including then f.b.i. director james comey. the topic was the ongoing investigation into possible trump campaign collusion with russia. rice writing, quote, the president stressed that he is not asking about initiating or

instructing anything from a law enforcement perspective. he reiterated our law enforcement team needs to proceed as it normally would by the book. chuck grassley and lindsey graham saying it strikes us add your activities in the final moments of the final day of the obama administration you would feel the need to send yourself such an unusual email. in addition, despite your claim that president obama repeatedly told mr. comey to proceed by the book, substantial questions have arisen about whether officials at the f.b.i., as well as the justice department and the state department, actually did proceed by the book. does this look unusual to you, ari fleischer? >> memos to yourself in the file aren't unusual. the way people in government will formally record something. what is unusual is the perfection of this memo. the saintliness and cleanliness

of it and 15 days later it came out on the last day of the white house. why not come out on january 5th? that is my problem with it. when they say it's by the book, this is like in the casa blancas. i saw no alcohol in the bar. when you say it done so well it makes you scratch your head and go why do you have to say that? >> by the book was said twice. >> maybe it is what president obama said in this meeting. that is also a distinct possibility. we have no evidence to the contrary and a loot of us who were there at the end were making sure all the records were in place before we left. we were sending memos to ourselves and making sure the archives were getting things. this is a fairly standard memo that she would have written. there is really nothing unusual. i think that everybody is reading this and seeing in it what they want based on how

they feel about susan rice. i think those of us who worked with her think it's fairly normal. those people who don't trust her for other reasons think there is something. it is a test how people feel about susan right. >> if someone doesn't have a history of lying it is easier. she has a history of lying. she most recently lied about unmasking trump officials names. she said she did not on national television and said wait, i guess maybe i did. she also lied about benghazi and an administration that has a history of weaponizing agencies against political opponents, obstructing congress with fast and furious as well as the benghazi investigation. >> two senators clearly say there is important questions to be asked of susan rice, clarify what was happening here. the white house raj shah this morning saying we have legitimate questions about this. >> if there was nothing when she answers we'll say you're right, there is nothing. if there was nothing. if she refuses to answer we'll

all wonder i wonder why she won't answer. i understand what you're saying, the last days. you're getting out the door and trying to finish your last moments of work and send yourself an email. we were talking on the couch. i don't do that. a lot of people do. i do think its bears asking the question. it is a simple question. why did you write it and what was it about? >> in context the same obama administration if he very end who declassified classified information by putting it in a widely circulating document alleging collusion with russia and trump. they sent it to a wide list designed to get the word out about further evidence of trump collusion, russia. i do question the motives of this administration on the way out the door. >> also changing the rules in the way that classified information could be shared across agencies as they were

leaving the administration. unmasking trump officials. >> good reasons for information sharing. we have to protect our national security. >> there are clear concerns as ari laid out. >> do you think it's interesting marie, the saintly nature of that letter? >> no, i don't. working with susan she was meticulous in documenting things. i truthfully do here. grassley and graham should have gone to her for the questions instead of making a public thing. i bet she would have answered them. >> when she was asked if she ever unmasked? >> you're twisting your words a little bit. i wish they had gone to her privately instead of making it a partisan story. >> the former administration had a habit of writing talking points and whether she thought they were true or not. we don't know what she thought.

with regard to benghazi. >> i think she trusted that. he think she trusted what the c.i.a. and intelligence community gave her in their earliest assessment to what happened. if she had -- if she had changed the talking points because of her own personal opinion we would be furious at her. >> by the third sunday show. >> all in the same day. >> you know you are getting realtime feedback. you aren't sitting like birds on a wire. she is going places i'm putting it out here. >> where does this go? i don't think it will go anywhere. i think the big moment we all need to wait for is the i.g. report' f.b.i. he has knowledge, access and will make a report and shed a lot of light on a lot of things. >> moving on to another topic. special counsel robert mueller facing new questions of bias amid a report that one of his legal hires is a self-described

democrat and a donor who also wrote for the left leaning huffington post. he wrote nearly 50 articles as a contributor for the liberal news outlet from 2009 to 2014. i'm a democrat, he wrote in one piece. and in a column for a newspaper he cheered on former president obama ahead of his first debate with mitt romney. stay relaxed. you did the debate thing in 2008. he joined the special counsel's team is the growing list of democrats currently working on mueller's team. more than half of the team, nine in total. have contributed to democrats on the federal level. ill oh he start with you, ari. we're in this place right now as a country of great bias. great political divide as well. we've seen instances of concern at the f.b.i. as well as the d.o.j. is this smart? couldn't robert mueller find

people that don't have such association with a political party? >> bob mueller. i continue to defend his integrity. i think he has a blind eye to these types of things because he thinks he would never do anything that is political so he doesn't pay attention to people -- i wish one person on the staff was a conservative writer. it seems like the deck is stacked. his top deputy attended hillary's victory party. one is you believe in the candidate and want them to win or you want a job. i have a lot of problems with mueller's staff. faith in mueller he will sit on the staff and make sure what they come out with is proper. mueller has invited a lot of criticism of himself, justifiably so for turning a blind eye to staffing. >> you said on this program many times that you know that mueller is a man of integrity

and will lead a fair independent investigation. have you changed at all? >> not about mueller but the staff issue. bob mueller made mistakes. ultimately it will be a political issue unless he indiets the president. reports like this become political and influence elections and influence whether or not there is an impeachment or not which is a political decision. mueller would have a lot more support for his report if he did not have these problems where it's a democratic staff writing the report. he is inviting criticism of himself in partisan places because he has too many partisans on his staff. >> when you say you trust robert mueller to sit on his staff and make sure i'm just wondering when you have a guy like peter strzok having an affair with another f.b.i. agent and plays a critical role in your investigation into a sitting president, former candidate and his campaign and russia. when you say sitting on the staff that's a lot of distraction. i believe anybody can

multi-task. i want to make sure he has everything he needs. >> strzok played a role in the investigation of hillary. he fired him toward the beginning of his investigation into trump. he did interview former national security advisor. strzok was mostly the hillary investigation which raises issue about that investigation and integrity. i'm in a wait and see mode. i believe in mueller. i wish he didn't make the mistakes in hiring. he has only invited criticism of himself. we need to have faith when somebody in a special counsel or f.b.i. reports something we can take it to the bank. >> if it came out other people political contributions or maybe they contributed to republicans. if it came out. it's why we're here. wait. i want to ask a question. >> can't you concede even as a

card carrying democrat that republicans and trump supporters could have concerns when you look at the deck that mueller has staffed among his team regardless if you trust him or not. doesn't the public optics of this matter? you do not need to be totally political to never have donated to a candidate and not be affiliated with party to be objective and do your job well. if he indicate out he required republicans who donated would that bother you? >> great if he had least had one. my point is here when you have one, two, three, four, five, nine and a writer it's a problem. if you had three and three, two and two. then i would say no, this is not a factor. >> a bunch more people working on the mueller investigation. everyone's history to make us feel better. robert mueller is republican and so do many people who work at the f.b.i. >> there is nothing wrong with donating. you have to admit if you were

to set up an investigation you wouldn't want to be tainted with people associated to one party or another. >> the fact that mueller and others have given to the republican party. >> f.b.i. director christopher wray raising more questions over former white house staff secretary rob porter and his security clearance before he resigned amid the domestic abuse allegations. who knew what when and whether the white house has more explaining to do. we'll get to the bottom of it. i. i. but it's my anniversary. aw. sorry. we've got other plans. your recurring, unpredictable abdominal pain and diarrhea... ...may be irritable bowel syndrome with diarrhea, or ibs-d. you've tried over-the-counter treatments and lifestyle changes, but ibs-d can be really frustrating. talk to your doctor about viberzi,... ...a different way to treat ibs-d. viberzi is a prescription medication you take every day

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people being exposed to that. we don't know the extent to which this one will bear out. yesterday donald trump junior's wife vanessa received correspondence and she in a precautionary measure was taken to the hospital and it was baking soda and not toxic or harmful. corn starch. we don't know about this white powdery substance here. the letter, we're told, for federal law enforcement officials, the suspicious letter was not addressed to former president obama but to the worldwide life fund and they received such letters in the past. secret service was on site with police out of an abundance of caution and clearing the scene shortly is what is being repeated to us. if there are more pertinent details we'll bring it to you right away happening in washington, d.c. to the left of your screen. >> a fox news alert. at a hearing today on capitol

hill f.b.i. director christopher wray laid out the timeline when it came to the former white house staff secretary rob porter's security clearance. thank you for standing by. live television, people. there has been a lot of controversy which you may know over how he was working in the white house for about a year without permanent clearance. porter resigned amid accusations by domestic violence by two ex-wives and a former girlfriend. >> the f.b.i. submitted a partial report on the investigation in question in march. and then a completed background investigation in late july that soon thereafter we received requests for follow-up inquiry and we did the follow-up. and provided that information in november. and that we administratively closed the file in january and

then earlier this month we received some additional information and we passed that on as well. >> here is white house press secretary sarah sanders yesterday on the timeline. >> look, we learned of the extent of this situation involving rob porter last tuesday evening and within 24 hours his resignation had been accepted and announced. >> ari, what do you say about the timeline situation? >> i think the white house counsel's office needs to sit down and go through this more carefully. that's where the press secretary gets her information from, the counsel's office relates it to them. when sarah said we received this information, what is this information. was it additional information? it is so hard to know. i don't think the timeline whether it precisely matched up with the f.b.i. is the core of the issue. the core of the issue is should the white house said you may not work here. you have denied these

allegations but they're so searous we don't want anybody in the building accused of it. they didn't make that call. it is a political judgment not a security judgment. the white house's evaluation on january 20th, 2017 they are short staffed. don't have people and that rob porter denied it and so therefore they accepted his denial. >> what's interesting about that chief of staff john kelly is at the center of things now. he wouldn't have been the person to have hired rob porter back then. >> that's a valid point. general kelly was not there. what would typically happen when a new chief of staff comes in the counsel's office has the obligation to go to the chief of staff and say by the way, we have three people here, five people here that situations have come up before you got here that you need to know about, mr. chief. then he is appraised of it. i will go back to the core of the issue. porter denies it and so you have one of these terrible in this case he said she said that rob porter is on the other side of. the white house knew that

because the f.b.i. conveyed that. maybe they didn't know all the details or maybe they didn't have the picture. i don't know. the white house has to make its call. >> how many shes do you need. she said versus he said. while we figure where the truth is let's set you aside in your position and bring you back if it's found to be that this didn't happen. >> i strongly suspect in the bush administration he wouldn't have gotten a job. in the obama administration he would have have gotten a job. in the trump administration they didn't have a number of people to go into the administrations we believe in this guy and he denied it and therefore we'll believe him. >> that's what's so disturbing so. >> breaking news right now. >> i think we have a few minutes. >> that's disturbing. never mind. >> want to alert this meeting

happening at the white house in the cabinet room now. the president is holding a meeting on trade, a bipartisan meeting. members of congress weighing in on their take on the situation with trade in this country happening just a few moments ago. let's step in and listen to the president here. >> korea announces the first step in necessary restructuring. they are going to korea company said it will close its plant in may of 2018 and they will move back to detroit. you don't hear these things except for the fact that trump became president, believe me. you wouldn't be hearing that. they are moving back from korea to detroit. they are moving also you saw chrysler moving from mexico to michigan. you have many other companies they all want to be where the action is. the tax -- big tax cuts had a big impact and kevin knows that maybe better than anybody. it had a big impact on that decision. when you see that general motors. we have a very bad trade deal

with korea, very bad trade deal. a deal that is incompetent that somebody could have made a deal like that. we have a horrible trade deal with korea. now even before we do something with that. we're negotiating the trade deal with korea. we'll either negotiate a fair deal or terminate the deal. already general motors is coming back to detroit. that's a really significant statement. many others to follow from many other countries. mike, go ahead. >> mr. president, 2800 people were laid off in my district in 2015 in a steel plant that's been operating for over 100 years. the concern is, that steel plant produces what is known as the oil country tubular goods. octg, when we're doing the exploration and everything like that in oil we are but korea dumped 200% in the last year in

an over abundance in that particular market. because of that we can't get those 2800 jobs back. those have been there. that group of people there -- >> where did it go. korea? >> they're coming from korea. unless we use the power under 232, because if something goes south, now all of a sudden while we're trying to become energy independent these plants don't turn up overnight and we have to work for a long term goal. >> the korean agreement and most of the people at this table know was done by the last administration. it was supposed to produce 150 to 200,000 jobs and it did for korea. for us it produced nothing but losses. it's a horrible deal. all you have to do is look at it and you know it will be bad. the korea deal was a disaster. it was supposed to be good for us and turned out to be very bad for us. just you are one example of it. there are many examples all

over the kun traoe. i just think the general motors moving back to detroit is a fantastic thing. that's a sign of many other companies to come. mike pence, would you have something to say? >> thank you, have president. i want to thank all of the republican and democrats taking time to be here and their profound interest in this issue. to your point, this is about our economy but it is about national security. >> you have been watching a discussion happening at the white house. the president meeting with members of congress to discuss trade and the president making it very clear progress that has already been made but also the fact that he doesn't like a lot of the stuff that's out there. ari fleischer is with us now and listening to president discuss trade issues at the white house. something that's very important to this president. >> actually, my notice of that was he likes to keep the cameras rolling now after the first one was a success, another one and now another one. >> it is closed to the press and he said let the cameras roll, yeah. >> i suspect on this meeting

what we'd hear is how boring the business of government actually is. these meetings can be pretty dry. that's what we would have seen. >> it is interesting to see them have those discussions. starting to get used to. >> well, turning back to politics it looks like nancy pelosi has set her plans for the mid-terms. the house minority leader is urging democratic colleagues to oppose the trump administration's new budget and infrastructure plans and keep trying to fight tax reforms. she writes quote, we must pivot aggressively to show the country how the trump budget is not a statement of our values and how the trump infrastructure plan harms taxpayers and consumers and continue showing the public how unfair the gop tax scam is to the middle class and hold the gop assault on the affordable care act. this is the time and opportunity. senate minority leader chuck schumer says democrats need to be more than the party of no if they want to pick up seats in november.

>> our mistake i think, you cannot just run against donald trump. it is the job of we democrats to put together a strong, cohesive economic group of proposals aimed at the middle class and those struggling to get there. that's our job as democrats. we have always been the party of economic advancement. and i think we may have lost some sight of that. >> you and i have both lived through mid-terms. some good well, less well when you're in power. what do you think? are you with the schumer you can't just run against trump model or the pelosi let's put it all on the line and go hard after the administration? >> it depends on what district you are in. history says republicans and donald trump will have a trump year the first year of a president's term. the mid-term election is a setback for the party in power. george bush's first year in 2002. 9/11.

republicans will lose a number of seat. the question is how many? all the energy is with the anti-trump voter. what is most important is for donald trump to get his approval rating up so he has more people who want to be for him. if he is in the 30s it will be hard for the president. he has moved up to 42. which is only two points below from where he started his administration on january 20th. he needs to keep moving in that direction. >> lisa, are you worried? >> senator chuck schumer was the one in 2014 who said obamacare was a mistake for democrats and what they should have done was focus on the economic issues that middle class voters care about. maybe the party should listen to him on this a little bit. but i think if regard to nancy pelosi. we'll see her dig her heels in in the mid-term elections. it's about self-preservation for her. her speech on daca bass with self-preservation. feeling people trying to push her out and concerns over that. i think we'll see more of that

from her. >> if she is taking this as seriously as we all think she is that she is not laying out a plan to fight the trump economy and the trump tax cuts. that's where they will struggle. if the economy is booming and you still see people feeling the effects of those tax cuts it will be hard for democrats to fight that message come mid-term elections. >> in part. you get to a numbers game. democrats need 24 seats in the house. there are that many seats in california, new jersey, new york and illinois combined. those are high-tax states that will hurt more under the tax cuts than other states. at some point is it is a numbers game. a district fight for who will have control. not every democrat will win those districts, to be sure. some of those economic headwind aren't as helpful everywhere. >> president trump won and democrats hold. you could reverse that as well.

but look, it is a mid-term elections. republicans are in the minority. it wouldn't be surprising for republicans to lose some seats. >> bill: more "outnumbered" in just a moment. we'll be right back.

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>> who knew marie is so into sports? >> i watch football. >> i didn't know this. you learn something every day. >> it's wonderful to have you, thank you for being here, that's tuesday for us. here's harris. >> harris: will begin with a fox news alert on the hot seat e the fbi. let's go "outnumbered" over time on harris faulkner. fbi director christopher wray at a hearing with the nation's top intelligence officials testifying he sees "no inherent political bias inside his agency." this amid charges that pro-clinton agents abuse their surveillance powers in the 2016 election and use the fruits of an unverified dossier to go after members of the trump campaign. watch a bit. >> there's no shortage of opinions about our agency just like every other agency appear. through its work,