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that has been used by previous administrations and we would rely on the law enforcement and intelligence communities to determine if that process >> and they would make that determination and play a role in what that would look like. josh? >> sarah, the fbi said that they made the white house aware of the allegations. the white house officials said until tuesday night, they didn't realize the extent of the allegations. should the fbi be punished for telling the white house officials -- >> that's something well beyond my scope to determine. >> they weren't told if everyone knew but nobody in the senior staff found out? or -- >> i haven't asked them about that specifically. >> raj the other day said last week that the situation could have been handled better.
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yesterday you echoed that the situation could have been handled. today the chief of staff said it was done right. can you explain that the rob porter situation could have been handled differently or do you think it was done right? >> as i said yesterday, we come here and do the best we can. we're going to continue to strive for that. we're humans making us imperfect people. so every day we can learn from the day before and strive to do better. that's our goal certainly within our team and going to continue to try to do everything we can to help serve the american people to the best of our ability. >> was it appropriate for hope hicks to be involved drafting the statements giving her relationship with mr. porter? >> she wasn't involved in many of the conversations. i don't know what comments she made or didn't make. she's the white house communications director and is an important invaluable member of this staff. she's done a great job in that
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role. steve? >> is there some discussion here about promoting rob porter to another job? >> i don't know the answer to that jeff? >> sarah, you said the fbi said the investigation was completed in late july but a follow up required more field work on that. was that because something that rob porter said in response to that, the allegations weren't true or what required more field work follow up? >> i don't know the specifics. i can only refer you to the previous statement. >> in an op-ed in "the washington post" this morning, the first wife of rob porter said specifically of you, i expected a woman to do better. based on what you know, do you believe you were personally misled and do you have any regret for how you have explained this to the american people? >> look, as i said, we do the best job we can every day. i would never presume to understand anything going on with that individual, nor would
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i think that she could presume what is going on with me or the way i'm responding. look, we've condemned domestic violence in every way possible. in fact, the president's budget that he released yesterday fully funds the violence against women's act. we're looking for ways to take action to help prevent this from ever happening to anyone. to presume they feel differently is a very strong mischaract mischaracterization of who i am and who this white house is. >> where do we stand as we sit here today in terms of if the president has confidence in mr. kelly, why does he have confidence based on everything we learned the last week? >> look, i don't have anything further to add. the president has confidence in his chief of staff. we're going to do the best we can to help the american people. julie? >> in july when the fbi was sent back into the field to get more information, are you telling us
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that no senior staff, not mcgann, joe kelly, nobody was involved in that decision to tell them to go back and get more information -- >> again, not that i'm aware of. i can't say with 100% certainty. not that i'm aware of any conversation between those individuals. >> are you looking at now ways that you can change the process so that if a senior official in the white house is facing credible allegations of spousal abuse that senior staff will be notified in a more timely way? if your timeline is accurate, it's taken more than a year. >> this is a process that law enforcement and intelligence community should weigh-in on and determine if changes should be made to the way it's carried out. >> i'm not talking about their process. the process here for an investigation where a serious allegation could surface and nobody in the west wing would be aware of that. >> that would include those
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agencies and those departments. so you couldn't exclude them from a conversation about what changes should and need to be made to any program. that would have to be something that involved all of the stakeholders and something beyond my purview to walk you through today. >> you're saying that law enforcement should weigh-in. you're the white house. you're in charge. this is your process. should you not -- >> it's actually not our process. the background component is run by the fbi, other intelligence agencies weigh-in. again, what i said, all of the stakeholders should be part of the discussion and should be determined whether or not changes need to be made to the process. >> given that it impacts the white house staff, do you not want a request and improved process here? >> that would go beyond my scope to walk you through here today. it's a conversation that all of those stakeholders should have. april? >> in light of everything going
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on, is there an internal review of all of those that have interim security clearances? >> i can't speak about whether or not different staff have interim or permanent security clearances. >> i'm asking -- is there a review of those that have interim passes to see if they're going to stay or go in light of what is happening now? >> my understanding that is ongoing awhile and the determination would be made outside of anything i can walk you through. >> you spoke of fully funding the violence against women's act. it's up for authorization. tell me how much the president is putting in that and was that prior to all of this happened between the two people. >> i'm sorry. >> the budget. you said the president is going to fully fund the authorization against women act. what is he putting in his budget -- >> i'd have to look at the specific number and it was
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rolled out in the budget yesterday. >> is the number that is always been or was it just done -- can you talk to us about the funding -- >> that is what was requested, has been put into the president's budget. >> when was -- >> it was in the budget that was rolled out yesterday. >> we just -- >> we don't write a budget in 20 minutes so it's been a part of something that's been ongoing. >> i understand that. there's some things in that budget mr. mulvaney did not tell us about. >> that means you didn't ask those questions. i'm going to keep going. >> he didn't give us the information. >> i wanted to get some clarification from you regarding the testimony, sworn testimony today by the fbi director, laid out the timeline and according to the fbi director's testimony, the fbi submitted a portion report on the investigation in question of porter's background
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check in march and a complete background investigation in late july. yesterday when i asked you about the white house counsel learned about mr. porter, had he learned before the report in the daily mail last week, your reply to me was the process was ongoing and the white house had not received any specific papers regarding the completion of that background check. so those two statements, the fbi director's statement, mr. wray and your statement yesterday seemed to be at odds with one another. do you see anything that you'd like to clarify in terms of what i asked you today based upon your answer yesterday? >> as i said earlier, my understanding is any information would have gone to the personnel security office. that office had not completed their process in order to make a recommendation for adjudication to the white house. that was ongoing. recommendation had not been made.
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>> regarding the completion of the background checks had not been received -- >> that's part of that process. that's run by career officials and we haven't received a recommendation from that office. >> had the fbi director today said under oath that the completed background investigation was submitted in late july, so which one is it? >> let me read this to you again. the white house security office received information last year in what they considered to be the final background investigation report in november. they had not made a final recommendation to the white house because the process was still ongoing when porter resigned. in the view of a personal security office, the july report required significant additional investigatory field work before personnel security office could begin to evaluate the information for adjudication. we find those statements to be consistent with one another. >>
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[inaudible] is there a feeling that chief of staff john kelly has misled you and his colleagues on what he knew and set up the communications staff to cover up the way that he handled the firing of rob porter? >> no. we're stating that we're giving you the best information that we're going to have. obviously the press team is not as read in as other elements at any given moment on a variety of topics. but we relay the best and most accurate information that we have and we get those from those individuals. >> with you talk about the other staffers that have been dismissed for not passing background checks and why porter -- >> my understanding is the same process was followed for all employees and the same process used in previous administrations. i cannot comment on anybody
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else's dismissal. >> thank you. you talked about giving the best information you have. this scandal has been going on a week now. we still don't have answers to the basic questions of who knew what and when. >> i've done you the best i can to walk through that process, as has raj. i refer you back to the statements that we've given. >> i'm going to ask you if you have spoken specifically to john kelly and the white house counsel to ask them these questions. you said i'm not aware -- >> i have and this is the information that was given to me. >> this morning the reporting on the fox business network said we need to get our other partners in government, white house included, to do the kind of entitlement reform we're willing to do in the house. what does the president disagree with house speaker paul ryan on that question of the structural deficit and the problem of
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mandatory spending? >> i would have to ask him specifically on that question. the president would like to reduce the deficit. that's one of the reasons that his budget this time, this budget, reduces the deficit by $3 trillion, which is one of the largest in history and he's going to continue to look for ways to do that. >> the structural deficit for mandatory spending, not the discretionary spending, which is the same for years. does the president disagree with him? i know he said he doesn't agree with that approach. why not -- >> i would have to ask him the specifics he doesn't agree with him on. dave, last question. >> majority leader mcconnell said the daca negotiations have to be done by the end of the week. did he give the white house a heads-up on that decision and does that reflect any view from the democrats are not bargaining in good faith? for example, they blocked a vote on sanctuary cities today.
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>> it's up to congress to set the timeline. the president has laid out the time line and we're going to support legislation that deals with those priorities. we hope democrats and republicans can come together and not kick the can down the road. thanks, guys. >> shepard: well, there you have it. who knew what and when regarding president trump's former senior aide. we don't have a definitive answer but we do have new information from the white house. a brand new timeline. here's what has happened so far. the fbi director christopher wray testified under oath in front of the senate intelligence committee. it's an appearance that the director makes once a year updating lawmakers on the biggest threats facing the nation. first, the matter at hand. the democratic senator ron widen of oregon asked the director of
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the fbi when the white house knew about porter. director wray said the white house submitted the first report on porter's security clearance investigation last spring. almost a year ago. >> the fbi submitted a partial report on the investigation in question in march. and then a completed background investigation in late july. soon thereafter we received requests for follow up inquiry and we did the follow up and provided that information in november. we administratively closed the file in january and then earlier this month, we received additional information and we passed that along. >> shepard: completed their investigation in july, passed it all along and then did follow up work. we know the two former wives had told the fbi that porter abused
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them. describing in detail multiple incidents and years of abuse, emotional and physical. so the fbi knew all of that and had the photos with the black eye before its report to the white house last july. so now this new story from the white house on day 6 of this scandal. the white house says that may be the case, but the information did not make its way through the personnel security office. the white house wasn't fully aware until last week and porter's background check is still not finished. that's what the white house says. they needed more. presumably the account from the ex-wives and the photos and the rest were not enough. we don't know. even with all of that, even if the fbi knew of the allegations but somehow the white house personnel did not, there are other timeline concerns. remember, the black eye photo became public from the reporting of the daily mail last wednesday. president trump's chief of staff
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says he took action against porter within 40 minutes. but hours after that photo emerged, he actually issued a public statement praising porter, called him a man of true integrity and honor and said he was proud to serve alongside him. then hours later, in a separate statement, kelly said he was shocked by the accusations. eventually the white house admitted that the press office and others by -- the white house admitted not that its account was wrong but everyone in the white house could have handled the situation better. chief of staff kelly disagreed. he talked with the "wall street journal" and said the white house's handling of the situation was all done right and he wouldn't have done it any differently. fox news shares common ownership with the journal. to sum up here, white house and the fbi have different time lights. within the white house there's different stories. today from the press secretary,
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an attempt to explain. >> the fbi would not give a background check investigation directly to senior white house officials. it goes to a security office and relayed maybe up the chain, maybe not. >> the fbi gave the background check to the white house last july. that doesn't mean senior people in the white house new. it got into a bottle neck at the personnel security office. that's the new story. part of the job of this man, porter, was vetting the paperwork that made it to the president's desk. he saw everything. he traveled on air force one, helped write the president's state of the union speech. porter's second wife says she told the agents her ex-husband could be vulnerable to blackmail. porter never got a permanent security clearance and based on all that we now know about him, the experts say he never would have. the white house has not yet copped to it, the timeline is
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becoming clear. the fbi told them that porter was a problem last summer yet he stayed on the job until what the fbi became public what it knew became public. you heard the white house is now claiming that officials didn't learn what the fbi tried to tell them. here's the big picture question. is the white house covering up for porter? did it look the other way because he was doing an important job in their view well? there's more reporting to be done. today's brand new account from the white house about the office of personnel security being a bottle neck where accounts of abuse got stalled is not the end. our chief white house correspondent john roberts is live there today. there was a bottle neck and the -- what is your understanding of this, john? >> this really -- first of all, from the surface, the 30,000 foot level goes against the principle of tell it all, tell it quickly, tell the truth. the white house may be telling the truth but they're not telling it all and certainly not
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telling it quickly. we're seven days into in now and there's another layer that's been peeled off the onion here. white house officials talked to me about this days ago. did the file go to the white house security office? did it go to the counsel's office or end up on the chief of staff's desk? the white house security office is in a red brick building a cross pennsylvania avenue from the white house. staffed by career officials, all of the fbi reports about security clearances go there. then when the personnel who staffs the white house personnel security office believe they have enough information to make a definite nation about a full security clearance, they will make that determination. while chris wray laid out the timetable, we do not know if that information ever made it to the white house counsel's office or to the chief of staff's office because the white house simply won't answer a simple
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question as to whether it didn't or didn't. listen to sarah sanders laying out her new timeline here. >> we expressed the process extensively last week. the white house security office received information last year and what they considered to be the final background investigation report in november. they had not made a final recommendation for adjudication to the white house because the process was still ongoing when rob porter resigned. >> so let's dial back to what we first learned from the white house last week after these allegations became public. we were told by the press secretary that the investigation was ongoing. if the white house personnel security office had not made a final determination about porter's security clearance status, you can say that yes, the investigation was ongoing even though the fbi investigation had long been wrapped up. in terms of the information that the fbi had in march and july and november and january, colby
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holderness, rob porter's first wife, told me that on january 25, 2017, a year and almost a month ago, she did an interview with the fbi and she laid out all of the allegations that she had against him and provided those photographs to the fbi. so if the fbi was to give a preliminary report to the white house in march, did it eninclude that information? when it gave the final report in july, did it include that information? we don't know. now as to the discrepancy between what raj shaw, the deputy principle secretary said about we could have done a better job an john kelly saying we did it all correctly, we did it right, here's what the press secretary said on that front a few minutes ago. >> do the best we can and every day we can do better than the day before and we're going to continue to strive for that. we're humans making us imperfect people. so every day we can learn from the day before and strive to do our better and that's our goal
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within our team and we're going to continue to try to do everything yes can to help serve the american people. >> but again, shep, this has gone on a week now. it's that steady drip, drip, drip of shifting timelines and a little more information comes out every day. you know, you think, shep, tell the truth, tell it all, tell it quickly. that might have been a good principle to adhere to in this case. >> shepard: we're passed that. >> well-passed it. >> shepard: she's being careful and repeated it more than once that staffing this office of personnel security are career people. in other words, not people within our white house. she seems to also be trying to say that if office of personnel security is not part of the white house, which could be any farther from the truth. >> it's part of the white house. because of statute and the job it does in terms of security clearance, it is disassociated a little bit from the political operation here at the white house. it's like the secret service. the secret service is an arm of
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the department of homeland security but operates independently from the white house although the secret service staff that are assigned to protecting the president are here at the white house. there's a little bit of separation but still part of the white house operation. >> shepard: before the photo came out, before that photo came out because the reporting of the dailymail.com last wednesday, before that, we've learned the white house was -- had put him up for a promotion, porter. >> yeah. there's no question that before all of this came out, rob porter was seen as a rock star here at the white house. definitely a rising star that was on an upward career trajectory. jim carroll, one of the deputy chiefs of staff here had just been nominated by the president to become the drug czar. we are told by sources inside the white house, shep, that conversations were being held amonday the senior staff as to whether or not rob porter's position and his responsibilities should be expanded and taking over at
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least some of jim carroll's duties. not necessarily making him a full deputy chief of staff, but at least giving him some of those responsibilities and not long after this conversations began, the hammer fell on porter and he's gone from the white house, shep. >> shepard: all right, john roberts. thank you. appreciate it. let's turn to peter nicholas from the "wall street journal." the journal and fox news share common ownership. good afternoon. >> good to be with you, shep. >> shepard: as this timeline goes and timelines matter as we discussed yesterday, the photograph came out and then kelly says that he 40 minutes later acted and we know that what he did was a couple hours later. he issued a supportive statement. during that period, the white house called in four reporters to have a discussion. can you tell us about that? >> i can't talk about that aspect of it. it does seem clear --
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>> michael bender was right? >> yeah. >> shepard: from the "wall street journal." just that it happened is -- you can't even talk -- i can talk about it happened. it happened. four reporters called in for an explanation was what was going on. the white house was working to construct a narrative even then. >> well, yeah. this has been something that the white house -- it's a huge embarrassment for the white house. they want to explain it the best they could. there was a period that it looked like they thought that porter would hang on to the job. he was a popular guy whose star was rising. he helped write the state of the union speech. they wanted to protect him. there was a point that it was untenable. >> shepard: you said they were trying to protect him after the photograph had been public and after all of this information had been written about in the white house and they knew about it. even if it had been locked up in
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the office of personnel security? >> yeah, it was clear that they thought that perhaps they could ride this out, get their story out and explain circumstances. there was a period that porter's future -- it was not certain that porter was on his way out. so there were efforts made to communicate their position. so this has been an evolving story for the white house and frustrating for reporters to try to lock down their position. >> shepard: and that's the reason that this continues even today. where does kelly stand at this moment? he said the white house handled this just fine and he wouldn't do anything different. >> that's what he told my colleague, michael bander. he said it's been handled fine. that's not what raj shah said last week. there were mistakes made and things could have been done better. again, we're hearing different stories. we have chris wray that laid out
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a timeline that varied with the white house. seems like the fbi gave information to the personnel security office and the white house in march, months before the white house said they had the information. >> shepard: so we're believe this was completed in july, they got information that a man this far from the president who sees every piece of paperwork that comes to the president's desk that flies with the president, the presidential aide, they had information that he had allegedly abused his two former wives and there were photographs and the white house didn't find out about that in july, august, september, october and november and december and january and here it is february because it just didn't make's way through the process? >> if i could add a detail to that narrative. >> shepard: please. >> in november, don mcgann got a phone call from an ex-girlfriend of rob porter that laid out some of the domestic abuse
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allegations involving one of the ex-wives. so mcgann had some of that information back in the fall, too. in addition to the fbi reports. the question is, did don mcgann ask more questions, did he pass that information on to john kelly or the president. there's a lot of internal sniping going on at the white house and finger pointing and people are wondering. i spoke to an aide today that raised questioned whether mcgann protected the white house and john kelly. >> shepard: peter nicholas from the "wall street journal." thanks. >> thanks, shep. >> shepard: one of rob porter's ex-wives is speaking out after the white house refused to say whether they believed her and porter's other ex-wife. colby holderness is her name. have you heard about the op-ed she wrote for this morning's "washington post"? she talks of abuse and survival and the strength it takes to come forward. details of that ahead. police, the israeli prime minute administer breaking in the last
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. >> i'm lea gabrielle with the fox report. more of today's headlines. federal agents they arrested a second suspect after a gunman killed two police officers in ohio. he's the one that bought the gun for the shooter. police officers say the officers were responding to a 911 hang-up call in westerville outside of columbus when the gunman opened fire. passengers on a southwest flight evacuating the plane after it caught fire before take-off. this happened at the airport in santa ana, california. airport officials say more than 140 people were on board. according to the faa, the fire broke out in a power unit in the
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>> shepard: continuing coverage of the new explanations at the white house for the rob porter scandal. rob porter is the president's senior aide. one of his two ex-wives responded to the white house after they refused to say whether president trump believes the former wives accounts. colby holderness said rob porter gave her this black eye. she wrote an op-ed for "the washington post" saying she was disappointed in sarah sanders after this response at yesterday's briefing. >> does he believe rob porter's accusers or are they lying? >> the president and the entire
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administration take domestic violence very seriously and believe all allegations need to be thoroughly investigated and above all, the president supports the victims of domestic violence and believes everyone should be treated fairly and with due process. >> that doesn't answer the question. >> as i just said, i'm not going beyond that. that's where we are right now. >> shepard: holderness has responded to that comment saying while i cannot say i'm surprised, i expected a woman to do better. holderness taking aim at president trump saying he seemed to be questioning the abuse claims. porter has denied the allegations. trace gallagher has more. >> it's important to have context in this. a large part of the colbie holderness op-ed deals with kellyanne conway's response to the allegation. holderness said she appreciated kellyanne conway saying this on cnn. watch. >> you have police reports, you
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have photographs. when you look at that pulled together, you realize that rob porter did the right thing by resigning. >> sounds like you believe the women. >> i have no reason not to believe the women and a week ago i had no reason to believe that ever happened. >> in op-ed, holderness said she was dismassed when kellyanne conway said she was worried about the safety of hope hicks who is reportedly dating rob porter. watch again. >> i'm very close to hope hicks. i don't worry about her in that respect. i'm sorry for any suffering that this woman has endured. for hope, i rarely met someone so strong and excellent instincts and loyalty and smarts. >> and holderness said i have no reason to believe her not to say that hicks is not a strong woman but her statement implies that those that have been in abusive
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relationships are not strong. show goes on to say surviving an abusive relationship takes genuine strength. shep? >> shepard: trace, the white house is facing criticism over one of the president's tweets. >> yeah. that tweet is the reason that kellyanne conway got involved in this to do damage control. the white house has gone out of the way to say that the president supports victims of domestic abuse. he said that people's lives are being shattered by a mere allegation. some are true, some are false. some are old and some are new. there is no recovery for someone falsely accused. life and career are gone. is there no such thing any longer as due process? rob porter denies the allegation saying the reality behind the black eye picture of colbie holderness is nowhere close to what is being described. holderness said the abuse
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started when they were married after dating for three years. shep? >> shepard: trace gallagher live. thanks. there's breaking news. i mentioned it, coming to us from israel. we now have this. police in israel are now recommending an indictment of the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu on charges of bribery and corruption. that's according to a police statement that's now been released. it cites two separate cases. the first claims netanyahu and his son accepted hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of gifts such as cigars and jewelry and much more from a wealthy business man in exchange for favors. the second case accuses the prime minister of giving preferential achievement to a newspaper in exchange for positive coverage. this has been great news -- or i should say all the news in israel for quite some time. greatly covered, i was going to say. the prime minister said the police recommendation will "end
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with nothing." he says his political career has only been for the good of the nation and he promised to remain in office. connor powell is live with us from jerusalem tonight. this break in the last hour. >> yeah, just in the last couple hours. these investigations, shepard, have been well known and underway for months now. prime minister netanyahu is accused of corruption, fraud and bribery. the two separate cases. there's a third case that there's no recommendation on. a short while ago, the israeli police recommended to the attorney general's office that the prime minister be charged in these two separate cases in a defiance, emotional televised speech tonight, netanyahu denied the allegations and insisted to fight against previous investigations against him and will end with nothing but -- in one case as you pointed out, netanyahu was caught on tape trying to help an israeli
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newspaper publisher with his newspaper return for favorable coverage. another case, he's accused of accepting hundreds of thousands of gifts from several businessmen. the prime minister doesn't deny accepting champagne and cigars and jewelry. insists they were just gifts from friends and not bribes. but just because the police have made this recommendation to the attorney general's office doesn't mean the attorney general will in fact bring charges against prime minister netanyahu. the attorney general is a strong ally of prime minister netanyahu. a lot of questions about what happens next. the state department was asked about the charges. they said they're aware of the issue. they consider israel a strong ally of the united states and they said they consider this an internal matter for the israelis. shepard? >> connor powell live in jerusalem. thank you. russia is again right now trying to interfere in our elections. this time the mid-terms.
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mid-term elections as a target for russian influence operations. >> the director of national intelligence, dan coates, testifying to senators that russia is already taking steps to meddle in the mid-term elections. his warning from his federal intelligence chiefs. they told the senate intelligence committee expect russia to pick up the pace as americans get ready to vote in november. catherine herridge is live on capitol hill. hi, catherine. >> hi, shep. what we heard through testimony this morning from the nation's intelligence chief is that russia saw the election in 2016 a big win because they used propaganda, social media, false flag operations and they're already laying the ground work for the mid-term elections in 2018. here's the senior democrat on the committee a short time ago. >> in ways we're no better
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prepared than in 2016. make no mistake, this didn't begin in 2016 and didn't end with the election. we're seeing a continuous assault by russian to target and undermine our democratic institutions. they're going to keep coming at us. >> right now they're about an hour in that closed door classified session where they were going to take up the issue of russia and how they work with their criminal syndicates to amplify these operations and not only target the united states but other western democracies. >> shepard: what did they say about dealing with the meddle something. >> he felt the american publicly was attuned to more russian interference and more like through to see through the operations in the future. let's listen. >> i think the american people are ready for this. they're going to look a lot more
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at the information. the american people are smart people; they realize there's people attempting to manipulate them. >> there was testimony about how the russians on their targeted state boards of elections during the 2016 campaign and the fbi director said they're working with homeland security to combine operations or strengthen the operations in each of these board of elections. >> we gather with election officials and there's ways that people are creative and forward-leaning to educate the state election officials, which is obvious where elections are
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run in this country. >> there were several moments really that would grab you attention throughout the hearing and there was one from the maine senator angus king that there was no meaningful punishment for the russians and they were back at it again and he calls for more leadership from the president. he said let's try to separate this whole issue of russian collusion, which is something that we'll get to the bottom of eventually. there's another issue, russian interference in democracy and that is staring at us with the mid-terms approaching. >> shepard: certainly is. thank you, catherine. >> you're welcome. >> shepard: coming up, we'll speak with the white house how t they are responding to the russian meddling and how to go forward. that's next. ♪ last night took a l, but tonight i bounce back. ♪ what's an l? the rap singer took a loss and now he's ok again.
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>> shepard: continuing coverage now of the nation's top intelligence officials telling our lawmakers that russia is already trying to meddle in the upcoming mid-terms. let's turn to alaina trean for axios. good to see you. >> good to be here. >> shepard: what is the reporting on how we're respo responding to the attacks? >> as you saw today, the chiefs
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are saying there's not enough to be done and they expect russia to meddle in our elections, especially the mid-terms this year. as senator mark warner pointed out, there's not a huge response to what happened in 2016 and a lot of people are concerned that the president and the white house's response isn't necessarily as alarming as it should be. >> shepard: the overall question why isn't there a broader response and what are officials saying when asked that question? >> right. well, some officials as fbi director christopher wray said, there's been some things in place that they can do that they haven't exactly spoke of yet. from what we see as the american public, there's not been anything. something that senator warner pointed to today, when the deadline for -- to impose sanctions came, the president didn't do that even though congress voted to impose more sanctions on russian.
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that is one more thing they could have done. on the other side, you mentioned this earlier, a lot of it is up to the tech companies. >> shepard: well, the truth is that we're very well aware that they're attacking. the president hasn't spoken out about this. when questioned about it, there's really no reason given that we haven't. the bigger question is why is there all of this deference to russia? today there's the accusation that the russian president was speaking with the palestinians for our own government saying the president of the united states has said pass along his best wishes as if vladimir putin can speak for the president. it's a strange series of occurrences when the united states of america is this deferential to the russians. >> it's strange. as we have seen, trump has said publicly that he believes russian president putin's denials about meddling in the 2016 election clearly as we saw
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today from the fbi director to the intelligence director and the cia director, they all believe and agree that they have meddled and they're going to continue to meddle. so it's definitely strange. >> shepard: you mentioned the tech companies. facebook for one has said we're going to change the way the news feeds work. but you wonder if they're going to be able to identify any bots that may be putting out false stories or misleading stories. if they can flag them and get them out of our feeds. >> exactly. as the intelligence chief said today, the companies have like facebook, google, twitter have said they will cooperate. they haven't seen enough done to really abate that problem. that's going to be the big thing. we see this with the release the memo hashtag, a lot of russian bots were helping spread that to sew division in our democracy.
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>> shepard: thanks, alaina. >> thanks, shep. >> shepard: another volatile day on wall street. this afternoon, the numbered turned around completely. the financial sector was leading this turn around. wall street looks as if it's going to end on a positive note about four minutes left to go on the wall street trading day. we'll get to "your world" for connects and perspective. trish regan filling in for shep. continuing coverage of the big news out of the white house in the next hour on fox news channel. the network america trusts for news and information on cable. in the kitchen. i need my blood sugar to stay in control. so i asked about tresiba®. ♪ tresiba® ready ♪ tresiba® is a once-daily, long-acting insulin that lasts even longer than 24 hours. i need to shave my a1c. ♪ tresiba® ready ♪ tresiba® works
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