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day on the fox business network at 2:00 p.m. eastern. i am also in for my good friend lou dobbs tonight at 7:00 p.m. on the fox business network. "the five" is next. >> jesse: i am jesse watters with kimberly guilfoyle, juan williams, dana perino and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five" ." the white house is responding after serious questions are raised about the russia probe since it was revealed former obama national security advisor susan rice sent an email to herself on president trump's inauguration day. the partially leaked declassified email describes a high-level meeting where she says president obama urged his team to conduct the alleged russia election meddling investigation "buy the book."
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as a result of the email, at least two republican senators are demanding answers. >> the question as to the president know anything about the fisa warrant application. did susan rice know the warrant application included a dossier from mr. steele when he was on the payroll of the democratic party coming from russian sources and that the information in the fisa warrant application with the dossier that was political in nature and mr. steele hated candidate trump and was trying to do everything to beat him. that's not exactly by the books. >> jesse: deputy press secretary on these developments. >> i have a lot of questions and frankly i don't know what's going on. the email raises a lot of questions but i can assure you that 5 minutes before you walk out the door of the white house on january 20, 2017, you write an email about doing something by the book, it's pretty clear you didn't operate by the book. >> jesse: okay, greg. >> greg: why me?
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>> jesse: do you find anything suspicious about the email? >> greg: i don't know. whenever i write emails to myself, it's because i am drinking and i'm going "this is a great idea. i'm going to do this on "the five"." i wake up in the morning and it no sense. i don't know about this russian stuff. the democratic response is so different than their philosophy. we are going. never mind. see you later. >> jesse: we are taking you to the white house where president trump and the first lady are holding a reception for black history month. [applause] >> president trump: thank you, they'd is and gentlemen. i appreciate you being here. it's an honor for the first lady and i, a true honor, to have many of my friends in the white house, all of you. the great vice president is right here. thank you, mike. so many of our wonderful cabinet. it's really a terrific day. it's so much fun, so much fun to have you here. celebrate a very important
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element of our culture and our life, african-american history month. right? we are very glad to be joined by our art standing surgeon general -- our outstanding surgeon general . i also want to recognize our great secretary of housing and urban development, dr. ben carson. where is ben? great guy, great friend. thank you to the members of the cabinet and all of you here and some of you came from far because this was very important for you to be with us here today. thank you very much. and to the hope christian church choir. i heard that sound outside. i said that is a beautiful sound i am hearing. alveda king is my friend. i saw you moving to the music.
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thank you very much. special special person. right from the beginning. thank you very much for everything. i was privileged to sign the martin luther king jr. national historic act a few weeks ago with alveda by my side and that was such an honor. i want to thank you and naomi earp for serving on the frederick douglass bicentennial commission. as we mark 200 years since the birth of a truly great american icon. 200 years. that is something. as we come together to celebrate the extraordinary contributions of african-americans to our nation, our thoughts turn to the heroes of the civil rights movement whose courage and sacrifice have really totally inspired us all. through their brave and incredible journey.
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perseverance. then gone tremendous perseverance. they have made america more just, more equal and more free. african-americans civil rights champions have brought out the best in america, calling us to live up to our founding creed and the truth that we are all made equal by god. [applause] this year we honor a special theme, african-americans in times of war. african-americans have fought courageously in every war since the revolution. long before our nation righted the wrongs of slavery and segregation, african-americans gave their hearts, their sweat, their blood and their very lives to defend the united states, its
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flag, at its highest ideals. thank you. very proud history of african-americans serving our country in uniform began all the way back at our nation's founding. they joined units like first rhode island regiment, the first all-black unit of american warriors. many were slaves. in exchange for their service, they were promised their birthright of freedom. these soldiers bravely repelled repeated assault by enemy forces in the battle of rhode island. later they fought at yorktown where the british ultimately surrendered and america's independence was won. they would not have surrendered so easily and so quickly without you, that i can tell you. decades later, african-americans volunteered to fight to preserve our union in the civil war. among them was a soldier named
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william carney who was born a slave in virginia and later enlisted in the union army. during the second battle of fort wegner, sergeant kearney saw the color guard of unit fall and he was mortally wounded. immediately he threw down his rifle, raced to grab the flag and carried it forward, planting it on the walls of the ford. through a hail of gunfire and enduring multiple wounds, he protected that great american flag throughout the battle. he later remarked to his comments that the old flag never touched the ground. that's a big deal. sergeant carney's valor made him the first african-american
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awarded the congressional medal of honor. highest award. extraordinary patriotism and devotion has distinguished african-americans through every generation. it has inspired acts of heroism and sacrifice that have engraved these heroes names into american history, names like charles is the who joins us here today. charles. thank you, charles. incredible job. incredible guy. charles followed in the footsteps of his father, a famed tuskegee airmen and distinguish himself as a naval aviator and graduate of the famed top gun. that's a lot of courage, right? thank you. charles went on to command an air wing and served as the
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director of the va center for minority affairs with great distinctions. to charles and all those here today who have served, you have earned the everlasting gratitude of our nation. charles and everybody, thank you all. thank you. great courage. you defend for all americans the same beautiful dream that inspired frederick douglass, harriet tubman, booker t. washington, rosa parks, dr. martin luther king jr., and countless others. it's the dream of a nation where every citizen regardless of color, religion, or background can grow up to succeed and thrive. a nation where every community can prosper and where all americans can stand tall and proud and free. i know this vision of freedom,
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equality, and dignity lives in the heart of every american patriot. just like so many african-americans throughout our history who have struggled and sacrifice for freedom, we must do our part to make that vision real for every single american. as long as we have faith in our citizens, confidence and our values, and trusting god, we will not fail. we will protect the birthright of freedom for all americans. i want to tell you. we have made such incredible progress over the last year. it was just announced, and perhaps you heard me say it, we had the lowest african-american unemployment rate in the history of our country. charles, that's good. alveda, that's in honor of you, alveda. lowest in the history of our
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country. we are very proud of that. i want to thank you again all for being here. god bless you, and god bless america. god bless america. thank you very much. i now would like to invite our really terrific young -- she's very young -- i won't ask you how old what you are a young guy. surgeon general to the podium. thank you very much. >> thank you very much, mr. president . thank you, mrs. trump. wonderful speaking with you. before we came in. i really, really honored to be here to honor the history of black americans. i'm humbled to be here today with all of you. with my family, with an audience of black leaders to celebrate black history month. [applause] is a black man and as you are surgeon general, i am proud to
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serve our great country. i have the privilege of leading the united states public health service mission car, a uniform service of over 6500 officers dedicated to protecting, promoting, and advancing the health and safety of our great nation. growing up, i was surrounded by relatives that protected our country through service in the armed forces. my uncle teddy, my aunt susie, my father ricky. my mother have three brothers who served in the military. service to our country runs deep in my family's blood. my uncle vincent served two tours in vietnam. [applause] service runs deep in our family, and it runs deep in the black community. in high school, i applied to the naval academy but my admiral prevented me from serving. my time spent in the hospital
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due to asthma and lighten me to another form of service, the medical profession. the first time i ever interacted with a black physician was in college when i had the opportunity to meet dr. ben carson. to see a black man making such important contributions to the field of medicine, dr. carson, it lit a fire in me. it instilled a belief in me i could do the same. secretary carson is here with us today. if you have a chance, stay thank you to him. thank you, dr. carson, from my heart for inspiring me and inspiring so many others. [applause] this year's theme for black history month is african-americans in the military. i would like to share a brief story with you. in the mid-19th century, alexander thomas augustine
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dreamed of being a surgeon but he was refused entry to u.s. medical schools because of the color of his skin. undeterred, he enrolled in medical school in canada. when the civil war broke out, dr. augusta offered his services to president abraham lincoln. he became the army's first ever african-american physician. he went on to become the first african-american professor of medicine and the entire country, working at the newly formed howard university right here in washington, d.c. dr. augusta was honored as the first african-american ever to be buried in arlington national cemetery. following the footsteps of leaders like dr. augusta, today we have trailblazers like general west. raise your hand. >> jesse: we will be right back in a moment. -if you told me a year ago where i'd be right now... aah! ...i would have said you were crazy.
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♪ >> kimberly: major developments coming out of capitol hill about the biggest security threat. the director of national intelligence issuing this alarm. >> frankly the united states is under attack. under attack by entities that are using cyber to penetrate
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virtually every major action that takes place in the united states. from u.s. businesses to the federal government, state and local government, the united states is threatened by cyber attacks every day. >> kimberly: director coats warned russia may be already trying to meddle in this year's midterms. >> we expect russia to continue using propaganda, social media, sympathetic spokesman and other means to influence to try to build his wide range of operations and exacerbate social and political figures in the united states. there should be no note russia -- no doubt russia perceived its past effort to be successful and views the u.s. midterm elections as a potential target for russian influence operations. >> kimberly: dana, this is sort of been in the works. what kind of national security
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threat the russians pose and now looking at a target of the midterm elections. >> dana: this hearing was super interesting. all about these different threats. there's a lot of them. this was the one that got some attention. we have been talking about this for a long time. democrats really want to relitigate 2016, and there is not evidence there was russian meddling in the actual machines that changed votes but i don't think there's anyone that still is questioning whether or not they tried to influence through other means. false flags. it's clear the government hasn't done enough to try to figure out what we are going to do going forward. part if it is americans are quite have to be smart about the information they consume. that's okay. in a democracy, we can trust voters to do that. in the meantime it's the other threats that are also a problem. bill gates today issued his
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annual letter to microsoft employees in which he said something greg has had for many years which is that when you marry this pretty easy technology with biological agents, get them put on a drone and send it into the city. all these things are emerging and you don't have to be a super power in order to wage war. one person in your basement working on it. >> kimberly: greg. you are familiar with one person in your basement. >> greg: at me or lou dobbs depending on what day of the week it is. the top security threat is technology married to tara. you don't need 10,000 jihadists. you just need one with know-how. it's not like a nation-state which has everything to lose. north korea and russia still want to survive because their goal. our biggest fear or danger is
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our own complacency. we have to look at the jihadist threat. toxic ideology and we have to deal with it. about the cyber terror thing, we have to be careful when we keep saying we are under attack. obviously russians are going to spy. north koreans are going to spy. the chinese are going to spy. everybody's spies. we look at spying us on how a defensive tool, like we're going to get information. we are going to get information about the ussr or russia and that's how we create our defenses. the problem with packing is when you say somebody hacks. north korea, russia hacks. we think of it as a nation. we think it's a nation attacking us. i think that's a bit dangerous. we have to look at this the way we look at normal spying. hacking is an adaptation of the spying. it's not a nation on the offensive. is perhaps a spy on the defense. it is still bad but we have to put it in perspective so we don't mistake a defense of
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action as an offensive one and launch a war. that's my theory i've stolen from somebody else. >> kimberly: when you want to get back to us with the attribution. >> greg: i don't remember what was. somebody smarter than me. >> kimberly: that is everyone. >> jesse: i think the russian cyber threat is real. the russians put $100,000 on facebook ads the last election. hillary clinton spent tens of millions of dollars on facebook ads. her campaign spent $1.1 billion in advertising. when you look at outside groups, 1.4 billion in advertising. when you add the mainstream media propaganda to that, combined that with hillary, there is much more anti-trump propaganda and then there was pro propaganda in the election. >> kimberly: purchased influence. >> jesse: the biggest influence i believe of russia propaganda in the last election was the dossier. paid for bell hillary clinton --
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paid for by hillary clinton. we are talking about it a year later. the dnc claims they were hacked by the russians but they never handed over their server. how seriously do they take it? john podesta said he was hacked by the russians. he ended up giving them his password. president obama admitted he was worried about russian interference in the election and never said anything about it. actually feels guilty. i am friends with a guy who runs the harvard cyber security team and he briefed congress and he said it's like a crime. you're never going to fully prevent it. you have to realize some of it is going to happen but when russia comes to mess with us, we have to get them back hard so they pay a price. >> kimberly: well, good. juan, swivel for me. >> juan: it seems like people are putting on blinders so they have don't have to say russia influence the 2016 election. we should know the details so we
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can prevent an occurrence in the future. what we heard today was this is an ongoing assault. it is an old offensive result. in the course of the budget shutdown there was a hashtag called #schumershutdown trending. got lots of attention and amplified by mainstream media. democratic politicians in the midst of their effort to say we are going to blame it on the republican said look at how social media is playing. later it comes out the pool supported the democrats but the russians, the bots and their propaganda efforts, were pushing hashtag #schumershutdown. this goes on every day these days on every political issue in america where public opinion is influenced for the benefit of the russians. we cannot sit silent as americans and say it could be that this country, that country. according to the top intelligence officials testifying today, it's russia,
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iran, china. if we want to protect our democracy, our basic, fundamental, we have to get serious. >> greg: can i respond to that? this issue is damaging that it thrives on team sport politics. for russia, it's about disrupting our foundation. the way it disrupts our foundation is by splitting us. we are spending all this energy quarreling over who do the russians help. who did they hurt? it's exactly what a global prankster wants. the solution, we have to step back and say there aren't two oppositional sides. both sides, juan and myself, we should relinquish this tribalists. we can agree there is russian interference. i know there is. there always will be. you have to think there might not be evidence there was another side to it, that trump didn't do anything. >> juan: i am open to the investigation but when i am saying there can be no debate about what took place.
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>> kimberly: we get it. everyone knows, the u.s. intelligence community, the russians are sophisticated in terms of the nation state actor actors. >> greg: don't forget canada. >> kimberly: no. white house under fire after rolling out a plan with the food stamp program. the controversy when "the five" returns. (avo) help control cravings
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at the white house. kind of an innovative thinking, it sounded like you were trying to make food stamp recipients bad guys and that we were going to send them food. they used the example of blue apron went to this kind of a yuppie thing to do. i'm not against this idea of sending nutritious foods directly to the home and then the remaining money is on an ebt card. >> greg: like a hairy and david basket? >> dana: no. >> greg: it's a good idea in the sense of making sure people get their food. the only war -- the war on poverty has worked. if you look at the statistics over time and the primary cure of poverty is capitalism. these programs, boxes of food or welfare, you have to have a strong economy that creates wealth so that it gets distributed.
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in 1820, 94% of the world live in extreme poverty. by 2015, 90% are not living in extreme poverty. the biggest impacts our democracy, market forces and education. it really is about market forces. allowing people to great wealth so they can help others. >> dana: part of market forces is creating new technologies that allow you to deliver goods and services in a different way. this is the white house coming up with a different idea. >> jesse: i think it's a great idea. food stamps skyrocketed under president obama and under president trump, they are coming down. that's a good thing. you don't want to be dependent on government but you want to do it with heart. right now the program costs $70 billion and i think the poverty line is, family of three, $26,000. you're going to get about $125 a month. it's not a racial thing either. most of the people get food stamps or white. food stamp fraud is pretty bad and i have a whole list here of
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people ripping off the federal government for three, four, $5 million what happens you come in with your ebt card and you buy $100 worth of food, not really. you buy $50 with the food and the guy behind the counter gives you $50 cash. that needs to change and this helps. >> juan: i was listening to jesse because i was interested but the thing i read today was that fraud is only 1.5%. it's very low. >> jesse: 1.5% of 70 billion is a lot of money. >> juan: the electronic benefit transfers cannot be monitored carefully and they can detect fraud. things like fresh fruit, i don't think you're going to see that. the second thing is, why do you want to punish people who have very few choices in their lives anyway. >> dana: being able to choose what you want. there's nothing to say he wouldn't be able to choose. >> juan: i think these were called harvest baskets or boxes and they decide what goes in the
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box and they give you the box because they say it's nutritious food and it's good enough for you. >> kimberly: kind of like school lunches. >> dana: i don't think they are trying to punish anybody coming up with an idea just to talk about. it's not actually happening. something to figure out away. >> kimberly: i think it's a novel idea. be able to provide nutritious food and make sure. people are going to want self-determination and choice. we tried this in san francisco, providing services and beds and drug counseling instead of just cash. huge controversy. they licked a sofa in front of my house on fire. it didn't go over too well. i like the idea behind the concept of blue apron. if you want to make healthy choices, especially for families and children to have nutritious food. they are going to want to decide whether to buy junk food or not. >> dana: artificial intelligence meets man's best friend. the latest robot innovation getting a lot of attention. up next from greg.
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for a friend. it's adorable. unless that other robot is female, then it's clearly sexist. this is impressive stuff. perhaps too impressive? this technology can goes two ways. robots can do good, rescue loved ones from hostages and earthquakes while also insisting the invalid. they can replace humans and other high-risk endeavors like war. they likely won't be traditional bots but swarms of insectlike drones that could get into places men can't. the second more disturbing tact is a nonconscious goal oriented creature with computation speed beyond our comprehension. once unleashed, we can't stop them. if their goal is to openly open a door, he may want to open all doors and may dispense with us to do so. nothing personal. you are just in their way. we become barnyard chickens. the metal gods are merciless farmers. i digress. i welcome our robot overlords. old robots and artificial
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intelligence can only be our allies, as long as we get there first before everyone else because the country that reaches superiority in this arena rules the planet forever. this is bigger than the a-bomb. to be scared of progress is natural but the only thing more frightening is living in the country that comes in second. you get my point, dana? let's say china beats us in this, china is the number one country in the world. >> dana: first to the moon. we need to be first. all the money, everything focused on this. i don't think we are set up for it. china is spending trillions of dollars. >> greg: i am worried about this. worried, worried, worried. the country that doesn't perfect this technology might get there first, create doing a creature that is evil. and then we all die. >> jesse: when i saw the video, the first thing i wanted to do was shoot the dog.
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i think it's terrifying. i would shoot it. i would shoot the whole thing. i would shoot it and shoot it and shoot it and then i would feel safe because the guy i share an office with this kind of a tech geek. he said people can hack into these things and you can put cameras in them. it can record all the things you're doing. i don't trust these things. i like them as a servant or a butler but if they turn, i shoot it. >> kimberly: it is like alexa with legs. if you're going to shoot it, go with center mass. >> greg: what is wrong with you people? >> kimberly: you just told us! >> greg: no, no, no. robots, you're looking at this show, remember i defended you. come for me last. >> kimberly: i am coming for you first. >> greg: there's going to be all kinds of litigation with these things. that guy opens the door, might slam it on somebody's face.
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creates a whole new legal system. >> juan: to me that's a secondary issue. the primary issue is what you just described which is they are opening doors and doing things and they've got cameras in them. elon musk says we've got to merge with them. instead of worrying about them taking over, we've got to figure out how to work with them or become one with them. >> jesse: we will never get through security at the airport. >> juan: they would know who you are. >> greg: look at this the way we evolve from primitive man. this is the next evolution. we are neanderthal compared to this. we might as well get used to it. i don't think you can meld a machine with man. you are already melting it with your phone. i already put chips in my body.
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♪ >> juan: just-in-time for valentine's day, a new trend for
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you lovebirds thinking about tying the knot. many modern brides living in the age of the women's movement are no longer waiting for for prine charming to pop the question. the report in "the new york post" says more women emboldened by the #metoo movement are putting a new twist on the engagement. it's valentine's day tomorrow. >> kimberly: yes, i have a nice special for you you're going to see coming up. >> juan: if you were to say i've decided it's going to happen. we have been together for a while and he's been slow about it. >> kimberly: that has never happened to me. honestly, i usually try and say, i would say -- seven total.
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two yeses. >> jesse: i like the idea of the woman has to buy the engagement ring which means we are off the hook. >> kimberly: cheap. >> jesse: the thrill of the chase is gone. the "me too" movement in all of this other stuff. the courtship is over. women proposing to men. it's all upside down. it's all backwards. >> juan: dana. >> dana: i am a traditionalist. i am. i don't see anything wrong with this. maybe i could be convinced by some young women are older women, i don't know, that this is the weight to go. i have to stick with the tradition. >> jesse: this has nothing to do with the "me too" movement. what i meant to say is that pendulum has swung so far this way culturally. we saw what happened. my sister did not take the last name of her husband.
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they hyphenated their child's last name. i mean, what is happening? what is happening? >> juan: greg, women are the majority of college students, grad school students. they earn more money than men in many cases. the majority of the workforce. they are taking more initiative. >> greg: i agree with you, juan, and everything he said. the only people who know of these women who propose our female newspaper writers in manhattan. leads me to believe this story is completely and utterly bogus. every couple years around valentine's day, you see this story. it's called "the women are proposing" story. every time they struggle for an angle to do this story differently, i can hear the pitch meeting where they say how do we do this now. let's tie this cliched article to the "me too" movement and everybody was scared to shoot it down. that's a good idea. let's do it. the fact is, no.
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>> kimberly: did you see the photo? it was a guy on his knee and the woman was standing up. >> greg: the stock photo pile. >> juan: i don't know. >> kimberly: if you want to, go ahead and propose. >> juan: "one more thing" is up next.
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the winter of '77.uring i first met james in 5th grade. we got married after college. and had twin boys. but then one night, a truck didn't stop. but thanks to our forester, neither did our story. and that's why we'll always drive a subaru.
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>> it time now for "one more thing." kimberly? >> happy valentine's day early, everyone? >> let's look at my special valentine's day package early. i kind of want to eat it, but we are going to dip it. >> that is godiva, where i spent a day enjoyably eating everything inside willy wonka and the charlie chocolate factt was fabulous, and we are going to have the whole thing for you tomorrow, a little valentine's day special. >> i have this. >> dana's corny joke of the day. >> i have three. they are valentine's day related so you can have something to delight your children with tonight. the first one. what did the french chef give his wife for valentine's day?
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anybody? that's not it. the french chef gave his wife for valentine's day a hug and a quiche. >> that was good. >> it wasn't really a joke. >> why should you never break up with a goalie? why should you never break up with a goalie? >> because it ends with a face-off in the corner? >> because he is a keeper. >> oh. >> last one. why did the banana go out with the prune. why did the banana go out with the prune? because it couldn't get a date. >> oh. >> that's cute. that's a good one. >> i'm going to top that. let's go to... greg's worst band in the world news. of course, the red hot chili peppers. this guy had just purchased
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tickets to the red hot chili peppers. it is the red-hot chili pipers, a famous tribute band, you can see his text when he realizes they are a bagpipe band, actually, they are a bagpipe cover band, this guy, he should be overjoyed because bagpipes beat aging shirtless dudes on stage like jumping beings. far superior. this guy should be grateful. >> that's a clever one. >> i didn't know you hated them. >> there were studies on this in the early '90s. they documented that they are the worst in the world. >> greg is very consistent. >> maroon 5 and adam levine. >> oh. >> the winter olympics to your
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backyard, watch this, a missouri teenager jumped on a nice-covered trampoline, his seventh grade buddy taped this fantastic video. he said he wasn't hurt and describe the experience is pretty awesome. his mother said he is a daredevil. video viewed 500,000 times. full metal, all for you. >> needs eating his ipod. sounds fun. >> this reminded me of something my parents would do. running for senate, in wisconsin, kevin nicholson, his parents maxed out to his opponent's campaign. they gave $27,000 each to his opponent who is running against their own son. he said, my parents have a different worldview than i do and it is not surprising they would support a candidate like
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tammy baldwin who shares their perspective. >> there is something there. >> there is a back story. >> i think you should get on to it. >> set your dvrs. "special report" up next with bret. if you ever need a caddy, i am your man. >> bret: that last story was like your mom and the letters. the head of the fbi seems to contradict the trump administration account of when it knew about domestic abuse allegations against a chief presidential aide -- one calendar california ten moo become a sanctuary city for marijuana. this is "special report." ♪ good evening, i'm bret baier. we are coming to live tonight from the white house. tonight, new questions about what the trump administration did or did not do about domestic abuse to gallantly m

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