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we hope you'll set your dvr to never miss an episode. let not your heart be troubled. laura ingraham is standing by >> what are you giving up for lent? you're going after poor old susan rice and brennan. can you say those names backwards really fast? >> hannity: what are you giving up? maybe i'll give up the e-cigs that i got ridiculed for using for giving up cigars >> are you a vapor, sean? are you veeping? >> i'll give up that and my beer at the end of the night. just ruin my whole life >> no, sean, that was a great show tonight, awesome as always. thank you so much. we'll see you back here tomorrow night. all right. >> tonight. you're not going to want to miss a moment. andy mccarthy is going to explain why senate investigators are calling an email from susan rice disturbing.
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joy behar and the gals from the view are hitting the vice president for his faith. we'll discuss it all with monica crowley. if what's the message behind the obama's bizarre official portrait? illegal immigration and the job that we won't or can't do. that's the focus of tonight's angle. a big immigration debate is underway on capitol hill. mitch mcconnell is saying you only have one week to do the whole thing. i'm telling you, watching this thing, the same old open borders and suspects are it again. front and center is senator dick durbin. he took to the senate floor yesterday to repeated that tedious trope that you americans are just too lazy or unwilling to do the jobs that only illegal immigrants will do.
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>> go to the local meat processing plant or the chicken processing plant and watch what comes out of that plant at quitting time. hispanics and africans taking what are pretty tough, dirty, rough jobs because others don't want them. not many of us say to our sons and daughters, i'm hoping they will, when you decided to pick fruit for a living. you hardly ever hear that because we know it's hard backbreaking work and immigrants do the work. >> laura: that is so offensive on so many levels, we can spend an hour debunking it and analyzing it. from my own personal experience, my brothers, my mother and i did all of these jobs. we did manual labor, fruit picking, paper route, restaurant work, my mother waited tables into her early 70s. if she were alive, i think about her a lot, i think she would probably show up at his office
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to throw one of her own polyester uniforms at him, she would be so mad. i'll tell you what's really going on in this whole debate. the democrats don't really care all that much about these illegal workers, as much as they care about getting their power back. what do i mean? we know a lot of middle-class voters are fed up with the democrats. the party has to begin to remake the electorate. his statement ignores the fact that the inflow of all the cheap immigrant labor hurts americans. who actually will do those jobs that he turns his nose up at. here's how my radio colors reacted to his comments today. >> i was in a position where i desperately needed a job. i went around to these locations that said were only hispanics in the restaurants, i couldn't get my foot in the door. >> i have 38 years experience
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for heavy demolition, i got turned down for three jobs because i don't speak spanish. >> laura: for a fair wage, americans will do and have done these jobs, senator durbin -- stop lying to us. preserving entry-level work opportunities for americans is important for young people, it's also really important for those who don't have a college degree, may be for those who don't have a special skill set. i think it's really interesting to look back, to see how the democrats have shifted on the immigration issue. i remember the time when democrats actually supported the working men and women of the country, they worried about flooding the nation with poor people from other countries who are going to compete with poor people already in our country who are american citizens or illegal immigrants. 25 years ago, this was dianne feinstein. >> mexico does nothing to enforce its borders. it is my view that if we are
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going to have a north american free trade agreement, mexico must do its share. today america could be the welfare system. the people who should be here have come legally at this time. >> laura: what happened to that diane's dianne feinstein. imagine if a republican made that comment today. there would be howells for the lame stream media and democrats, how can you say that? this is bernie sanders 11 years ago who spoke out and voted against george w. bush's push for amnesty. >> i think it's high time that the senate of the united states of america began to stand for the american worker and i would
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hope before an immigration bill is passed that it would respect the whites of american workers and professional workers. >> laura: sanders is right, where is the congressional concern for the human dignity of america's low skilled workers today. they call them the working poor, people can support families on these jobs. they can live decent lives. in certain limited circumstances, in particular industries, guest workers do make sense. it shouldn't become the norm, it doesn't have to be. i was thinking about this as well. it's just once in a blue moon we heard somebody like a senator senator durbin speak in such emotional terms about innocent americans who lost their jobs or their lives at the hands of illegal immigrants. case in point -- on sunday, and
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illegal immigrant slammed into an ambulance carrying a mother and her 3-year-old boy in winston-salem. alcohol blood level was double the legal limit. he injured the mother and the driver and the little boy is dead. how many innocent lives have to be lost before the u.s. congress focuses on the well-being of american citizens and legal immigrants rather than kowtowing to the business lobby? we are all waiting. dick durbin has a job that can't be taken by an illegal immigrant maybe he needs a taste of his own medicine there.
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if it ends up being a deal at all, the needs of the american people, the american worker should always be priority number one. that's the angle. joining us now with reaction as heather mcdonald, a senior fellow at the manhattan institute, written extensively on these issues. along with austin goolsby the former chairman of the council of economic advisors under president obama. have at it -- my concern about what dick durbin said it's really condescending. it's almost stereotyping an entire group of people. you poor people who come from mexico you're going to go to the chicken processing plant as all the other americans are going to pick up the jobs where they can. i found that to be stunning. >> i'm not a fan of that argument. i think the part of what the senator durbin said that i agree
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with, i think most american parents want their kids to get high wage jobs. i'm not a fan of the argument that goes we ought to purposefully create an underclass of the workforce that are things we don't want to do -- that's the saudi arabia argument. that said, i think there is still a case to be made that in the words of abraham lincoln, the immigrants are the replenishing stream for the native population and if you look at our native population, it's not that high. i think i agree with her principal, let's ask what is good for the american nation. when you look at immigrants, the first thing we should ask is are these people who want to become americans? do they buy into the american way? if so, i feel a lot more leniency in trying to incorporate them into the economy than if it's just a permanent guest worker.
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>> laura: he conflates legal with illegal immigration which is an old trick of the open borders crowd. he did that in many of his comments yesterday and he did that again today when he praised an olympic athlete whose parents are south korean emigrants -- an american, let's watch. >> let's remember, chloe kim's story is a story of immigration in america, it's a story of people who came to these shores determined to make a life. they don't bring wealth, many of them don't bring proficiency in english. they certainly in many cases don't bring advanced degrees, they come here with a determination to make a better life for themselves and a better country for all of us. >> laura: nobody disagrees with that. we are talking about illegal immigration and the comments that he made about jobs that americans won't do.
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your reaction. >> they are still doing them, that's the irony. there's about 472 different occupations in this country, aliens make up the majority, of only six of those occupations. you could go to those cities who have not had a flood of low skilled immigration, find americans working the jobs that dick durbin says nobody will take. if they as hotel aides, this is an incredibly condescending attitude both toward americans and toward work. i think what parents would say to their children is you get to any job, all jobs are meaningfu meaningful. the idea that americans are worthless and lazy and we need
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new blood of immigrants, if people are coming here to become have to be realistic about economic consequences of low skilled immigration and it hurts above all people of color. native born americans, legal hispanics, blacks and hispanics that are finding wages cut out from under them. the mass low skilled immigration both legal and illegal is imposing massive social cost on taxpayers in the form of schools in the criminal justice system. >> laura: i did like an hour and a half on this on radio today because we kept getting inundated with calls from americans from wisconsin, texas, all over the country when they heard it dick durbin, they took
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it as a personal insult to them. i know you don't agree with everything he said but i think it's important. it's an argument that is made time and again by those who believe we need to bring in a mass number of people, amnesty people who are here illegally. who try to get jobs in the hotel industry and they literally can't get the jobs because once an illegal immigrant gets into that middle management position, they only hire other illegal immigrants. >> i was following your argument as it was going along but there i think the data don't back that up. if you look at the states where there are the highest levels of immigration both legal and illegal, the wages of natives of the native-born population are actually substantially higher than states where there is not that much immigration. if you look at immigrants, they start businesses at higher rates
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than do native born people. >> laura: legal immigrants, not illegal. >> legal and illegal. >> laura: "the washington post" did this big study that was a pew study. we talk about this on radio. the study demonstrated that illegal immigrants take jobs in various areas. farming, fishing, 26%. 14% groundskeeping, almost a quarter of all groundskeepers illegal immigrants. clothing manufacturing to the extent that there's that left in the country, 20%. these are jobs that americans did do and they are not doing them now because the wages are being undercut by a glut of people. it's not every town and every part of the country but where those jobs are displaced, the wages are not rising.
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commensurate with how they are rising in other sectors, that was my point. >> as you've been saying it's a question of cultural change. i would like to respond to austin's point. you can't look at wages as an aggregate. there is a minimal increase in well-being for americans, most of the benefits go to the immigrants themselves. when you look at the lowest wage americans, the people who have the high school education at the most, their wages are driven down by mass, low skilled immigration, and that's why it's so important not just to end the flow of illegal immigration but to change immigration flow overall. >> laura: production from both of you, is there going to be an immigration deal at the end of the week? yes or no. >> i don't think so. >> i agree with austin.
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>> laura: joy behar, she hit a new low today. she is attacking the christian faith of vice president mike pence -- why not, it's so easy to do. especially right as we are getting into lent. listen to these comments today on "the view." >> it's one thing to talk to jesus it's another thing when jesus talks to you. [laughter] that's called mental illness if i'm not correct. >> laura: i'll tell you one voice i wish i never had to hear again. let's get a view from monica crowley and from madison, wisconsin, of course madison, wisconsin, dan barker the copresident of the freedom from religion foundation, it's great to see both of you. let's talk about this joy behar deal. why do they not ever try this
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stuff on muslims, it's always a christian conservative guy or gal that gets hit with this stuff. they never do this with the muslims, they always focus on the christians, dan. >> i do it with muslims, i've debated eight or nine of muslim scholars, belief in a la is just as delusional as christian belief in yahweh. the dictator of the cosmos is talking to them, that's dangerous. >> laura: monica. >> whose voice would you rather hear in a regular basis, joy behar or jesus. i'll take jesus any day. the truth is if the vice president were muslim and he came out publicly and said he regularly converses with paula, joy behar would be celebrating that point.
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the left respects everyone's beliefs unless you are conservative and a christian, in which case you have the wrong belief and you are to be marked and roundly dismissed. the only extremist here is joy behar and the rest of the crew on "the view" who took the opportunity to take cheap shots on the vice president and his personal relationship with jesus which is the essence with christianity. >> laura: i was always wondering the freedom from religion foundation, do you guys meet or is it just you? do you guys have meetings? >> we have national meetings, our next conference will be in san francisco. >> laura: that's a shot, moving on to boulder and then we are going to austin, texas, and then we'll finish up in cambridge. then the final meeting in washington, d.c. what i'm doing to you it's not fair, you're so fun especially around christian holidays, i
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don't want to ridicule you i'm glad you're on the show. i want to play for both of you what the gals on "the view" were discussing when the former white house aide said last night on celebrity big brother, watch. >> we would be begging for trump back if mike pence became president. i'm christian, i love jesus, but he thinks jesus tells him to say things. i'm like jesus didn't say that. it's scary. >> laura: even the other contestants on the -- whatever that is, i didn't know that was still on. i think she has become her own character in her own continuing reality show. even the other people didn't seem to buy what she is saying. >> the national discussion, the parameters should never be
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defined by omarosa -- i want to make a bigger point. the sickness of the left is that they think they are god. made it illegal to worship anyway, elevated the state to replace god. anybody who believes in jesus or god is a fool to be targeted or mocked. it's only christianity, they look at that as a tool of the week. to be mocked and dismissed, it is gross and disgusting and should be rejected and all of its forms. >> laura: when obama was over there with rick warren at his church in california, when hillary spoke at various churches during her campaign, al gore appeared at a church --
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does that keep you up at night, where you really worried about that? i don't remember you speaking out when obama was doing that kind of stuff. >> we complain about religion mixing with our secular government. it's a christian criticizing other christians. when i was an evangelical minister i used to think god was talking to me until i realized everybody think god is talking to them and nobody agrees with one another. a secular government to lead her to think he's getting direction from something we cannot confirm. he can have his fuse if he wants to, if he wants to pray to jesus or whatever, that's america. >> laura: just so i'm clear, you must be really offended by most of george washington's seminal speeches to the country and to his troops, correct? >> we are not offended by
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personal views. >> washington someone at the almighty both for inspiration and protection for our troops and our nascent republic. does that bother you? >> george washington was not the kind of christian at the evangelicals would embrace toda today. >> laura: you can go back and your time travel machine and figure that out? >> we do know that. i bet on george washington having a lot more respect for mike pence than hanging out with a bunch of atheists who complain every easter, christmas. >> your exaggerating here. >> laura: you know why i'm not exaggerating, your idea of bravery is putting up a billboard insulting christians, that's your idea of a brief statement. we support you, will have you on your show, but that's not courageous and brave.
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that's being a pain in the backside because you know every time a christian holiday comes along, you get invited on tv. that's your right to do it but is not brave and it's not courageous. will pray for you regardless of what you believe. >> you invited me, you know my views. you know that tens and millions of good environments do not believe. >> laura: i never said otherwise. were talking about someone who goes on tv and mocks someone for his faith. you go on television and mocks someone for their sexual preference and you will never work again. you mocked someone for their faith in you get the applause and the love of the elites and maybe some groups like yours. if we are out of time. we have to have you on radio, it would be fantastic. from a war on faith to one in cyberspace, a massive cyber attack could soon stop life as we know what in the united states, is the usa ready
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institutions to their advantage. from u.s. businesses to the federal government, to state and local governments, the united states is threatened by cyber attacks every day. >> laura: security expert morgan wright is here to address the big question, it's not a question of if but when. one of the great moments came from marco rubio where he pointed to a country where i know you've been focusing on which is china, let's watch. >> the biggest issue of our time in my view and i think in the view of most members of this committee is that china and the risk they pose. i'm not sure of some hundred 40 odd year history of this nation we've ever faced a competitor of this scale and capacity. everything from companies and critical infrastructure and defense contractors, everything you can imagine.
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>> laura: of course we helped enriched them all these years with a massive trade deficit that only trump is attacking, what do we do and what could happen? >> they are taking over the south china sea, they are stealing our technology. the latest announcement of their stealth fighter looks suspiciously like the b-29. we've got to hit back hard on these guys, our research university i won't say which one it does but i had a chance to speak with former chief of station at the cia, they will not let any of the chinese into their national security program. with the people are getting better intelligence training. >> laura: they are setting up centers, we saw this happening starting 20 years ago. mandarin, let's do a dual learning and mandarin and english, et cetera global economy.
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they are doing it as part of a global plan. they want hegemony not just in the south china sea but all around the world. what does this mean if china decides to flip the switch on the united states. >> they have 1.2 billion people, they have a very advanced cyber threat capability. they will collect information over and over, at a time and place of their choosing, they will do to us what we are not willing to do to them, attack the power grid. >> laura: how many days does it take for society to deteriorate, food can't be delivered it's all electronic. >> what we started seeing very quickly, when russia started attacking, you will see it devolve very quickly. we don't have the civilian police force, there are only a million cops in the united states. if people decides to start getting out of hand and rioting,
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they are not enough civilian police force to be able to manage these things. god forbid, you take out facebook, twitter -- >> laura: people freak out at hotels, wi-fi is down. it's like they never lived, they can't survive without that. >> you're talking about hospitalization, critical surfaces, critical infrastructure -- we are such an open society and we are allowing foreign nationals not just to be in certain sensitive areas like our universities but in our critical infrastructure, we lose it so much intellectual property that is designed to defend us every year to the chinese and the russians. >> laura: we also have birth tourism which we are going to get into later in the week, thank you so much, great segmen segment. have you seen the official new portraits of the obama's? they tell us more about the couple than you might think, what were the artists thinking? will get into it ♪
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man -- i was also inspired by barack obama's personal story. that sense in which he and i have an echo of the search of the father, that sense of twinning. there is this echo of he and i in that narrative. >> laura: it's him and me, but who cares about grammar at this point. here to discuss, fox news contributor raymond arroyo and state department senior advisor from hillary clinton and i'm wearing mardi gras beads because lent is an hour and 15 minutes and i'm going to have fun for the rest of the day. i always do that, tell me about the portraits on what they represent, they are interesting, they are conversation starters. >> i was told there would be no math or art when i can. >> laura: will make you do 50
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push-ups. >> i didn't know anything about the artist or his background and i did some research, i have flashbacks of college art history. >> laura: i never took it, you can educate me. >> i got a c. it's a scene of judas and please let me get this right, a hollow furnace -- >> he's done that in the past. he put black subjects in historical settings. >> they have represented to people differently. >> he has black women decapitating white women. he says it's his take on the kill whitey thing. >> laura: how is that a positive image for the portrait gallery. i kind of like that, a lot of boring stuff happening, i like his jacket. >> definitely not boring.
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i think the thing is the depiction of president obama, it gets into a larger issue of race. if he was the first black president of that triggered a lot of change and discomfort and that manifested itself in different ways including the birther movement and others. if we are seeing a little bit about that now. i think sean hannity tweeted something about there being people are seeing things that are not there. >> this is my background, i was in the theater. this isn't fair. this is the one thing i'm qualified to talk about. you see the president in that -- standing in front of that shrubbery of poison ivy, it is an odd picture. what is that artist trying to convey? it doesn't look like the president that we know him.
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there is none of the obama hope and change. if we call it leonard nimoy in propose. >> laura: i don't care about politics in this, it's a goofy painting. it doesn't matter if you love obama or don't like it, he is a handsome man. i think that makes him look like the little shop of horrors what it's like feed me. that guy sitting in the signs all come over him, -- presidential paintings. >> it's all relative. >> laura: you don't like it! >> that faces out of proportion. >> laura: do you think michelle obama look happy about it? >> she's clapping and tried to
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be happy. barack obama looked at it as if he is looking at something from another planet. her hands are too large, their dresses like a mountain. >> laura: she is really pretty and it makes her look not happy. they are both handsome -- i don't think either of them look like -- >> whatever you think of each of them tomorrow, the same way you did yesterday. this is a fun distraction. >> historical markers are remembered. >> laura: leon panetta the former secretary of defense, when he had his ceremonial portrait hung, he commanded that his dog was in the portrait. the first black artist to paint a president that's not true. simi knox painted an attractive photo of bill clinton in 2004. he is the first black portrait
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artist. >> you know what the scandal was for that? he wasn't wearing his wedding ring. he took it off, he took the liberty of taking it off. we have to spend a week with "the new york post" showing photos of him posing. >> you're making my point that art asks questions and the artist answers them, just like the other -- the question is why did you take off? they question his fidelity. >> art tells things, that's what it's about. >> laura: i'm still trying to get over he said we are twin -- >> can't we talk about russia or something? >> laura: no. >> long after the rush investigation will be staring at these portraits.
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>> laura: that was fun. he was going to put him with a scepter and on a horse and then he was going to put them with a jaguar. >> he puts the artists -- i hope the portraits are -- >> laura: as the media scrutinizes the trump white house they ignore another flashing sign that the obama administration was up to no good. andy mccarthy is going to be here to explain the latest revelation about susan rice, wyatt's significant -- ♪ you hit me like fire, shot me like a bullet. ♪ ♪ burned me up and down, no way to cool it. ♪ ♪ every time you kiss me it's like sunshine and whiskey ♪ ♪ like a bottle of jack straight to the head. ♪ ♪ one shot, two shot, copper tone red. ♪ ♪ every time you kiss me it's like sunshine and whiskey. ♪ ♪ applebee's handcrafted burgers. any burger just $7.99. now that's eatin good in the neighborhood.
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>> laura: senate judiciary members are pressing susan rice to explain an email. >> talking about her conversation on january the fifth with a president, reassuring herself and i guess the president that this would be done by the book. i think that's odd or disturbing because we know that the investigation regarding the trump campaign was anything by the book. >> laura: the email indicates the obama administration may have withheld information from the trump team, meanwhile there is new information on michael flynn's guilty plea, who better
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to explain a tall thin former federal prosecutor eddie mccarthy who joins us from new york. i have been dying to talk to yo you. it seems like she is back, she is there to save him on benghaz benghazi, when out to lie about the deal and what caused the attack. now she is back again and what looks like a bee why a email to herself. >> there are two interesting things about it, you would think at the very tail end of the administration that always did it by the book it wouldn't be necessary to tell people that things needed to be done by the book. particularly when senator graham points out this thing was anything but done by the book unless the book is rules for radicals. they didn't identify the book. the other interesting thing that
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you point to is this holding out, laying the groundwork to hold out information. president obama wants to know over the next couple of weeks if there is any reason why we can't share with the incoming team, you have to think about what was going on then. they were investigating flynn at that time and he was going to be susan rice's successor who you think she would be cooperating with and sharing information with. they were regarding him as a criminal suspect, thinking about doing a logan act prosecution on him which is absurd. they ultimately had the fbi go speak to him and ended up prosecuting him for false statements. i wonder if they are laying the groundwork to not let him in on things because they are regarding him as a suspect rather than a successor. >> laura: a friend of mine today reminded me of one we were in the reagan administration, usually in the last few days
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you're not still sending emails. i don't know what time that email dropped, was it before 12:00 noon -- what was the timing of that? >> she should have been clearing out her office, she is gone. this is a trump land after 12:00. >> still using government email and i think she still had her a security clearance. she is creating a government document on purpose, we know that's not the usual thing in the obama administration. often they try to not create government documents when they were doing government work. she was making a paper trail here. >> laura: want to ask you quickly about this deal with robert porter and this whole thing with his ex-wives and accused of abuse. the timeline it might be
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different from what the administration initially said, what's going on with these security clearances and individuals who are still working in the white house without security clearances -- is that normal? >> is not normal for people to be working and an extended period of time without a full security clearance. the white house evidently said the fbi investigation was continuing. it looks like according to what director ray says they had wrapped it up last year. >> laura: great insights as >> laura: great insights as always, wefor 100 years, herita and innovation have made gillette the #1 shave in america. now get gillette quality at lower prices - every day. brought to you by more than a thousand workers in boston. we're proud of giving you our best. gillette - the best a man can get.
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awesome. that's all the time we have the, lent begins in 59 minutes. mardi gras is officially over. did shannon bream it catch thos those? >> i nailed it, one hour from now we will start behaving, will pay attention. >> shannon: here is what we have coming up tonight. who knew what and when about the domestic abuse allegations of a top presidential aide to? the fbi calls into question the white house timeline on rob porter. >> the administration disclosed the file in january. >> the fbi disclosed, the white house security office had not finished their process. >> shannon: we separate fact from fiction. >> the president's framework deal is not open for negotiation. if it's down for
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