guns and all he could hear was guns at night reloading. >> emily, we're out of time. but you have remarkable poise. thank you for joining us. >>welcome to hannity. this is a fox news alert. 17 people are dead. a horrific tragic shooting at a south florida school. law enforcement now detailing a 19-year-old suspect, nicolas cruz seen in the video in custody. they're now working a possible -- the suspect wore a gas mask, had smoke grenades and set off the fire alarms so that students would come out in the hallways.

a teacher from the school saying the suspect has been identified as a possible threat to students in the past. the latest details of this investigation. phil. >> this will be the last briefing of the evening. i'm here with governor scott. i'm here with rob lasky, director of the fbi in miami field division. i want to start out by saying to broward county, to the state of florida, and to this nation, another horrific day, a detestable day. i'm absolutely sick to my stomach to see children who go to school with backpacks and pencils, lose their lives. this nation -- we need to see something and say something. if we see different behavior, ab

-- we've identified 12 victims within the school. we will not be releasing the names of any victims until every family and every parent is notified accordingly. as soon as that's been done, of course we will release a list. i want to thank you for getting the information to the folks we need. i'm going to bring up mr. runcy. and then you'll hear from governor scott. we'll take any questions and probably give you your next briefing tomorrow. thank you. >> this evening, our district is in a tremendous state of grief, sorrow. we're heartbroken over this

unspeakable tragedy that has occurred here in florida. words cannot express the sorrow that we feel. the victims and their families, our thoughts and prayers go out to them. no parent should ever have to send their kids to school and have them not return. that should not happen in parkland. it shouldn't happen anywhere in this country. and we've got to find a way for this to stop. as a district, we will continue to work with law enforcement. we are focusing on providing all of the support that our students, our families, and employees need to cope with this devastating tragedy. it's going to take us some time to go through this, to heal, to figure out how to move on.

some updates on marjory stoneman douglas, as for activities in school, we'll be closed for the remainder of this week. all activities will be cancelled as well. we are going to provide grief counselors. they will be available to marjory stoneman douglas students and families at the pines trails park recreation center and amphitheater located at 10555 trails end, parkland, florida, beginning at 8:00 am tomorrow morning. we will also have grief counselors available for staff members at the parkland library at 6620 north university drive in parkland. again for the staff members, we

will have grief counselors available at the parkland library at 6620 north university. the grief counselors will also be available at west glades middle school, which is right adjacent to this high school as well. and what i can tell you about today's shooter, today's shooter was a former marjory stoneman douglas student and was currently enrolled in broward county public schools. because of laws, i can't provide you any additional information about the student at this time. again, we are tremendously heartbroken, saddened. our prayers and thoughts go out to the marjory stoneman douglas family and the victims. we're going to pull through this together as a community. this has been a day we've seen the worst in humanity.

tomorrow is going to bring out the best in humanity as we come together to move forward from this tragedy. it's been unbelievable the courage and support almost every municipality in broward county has been here. they've been working nonstop. the governor, his office, the state, everyone has just been outstanding in terms of their support and their efforts. and it's been heartwarming to see that. so as a community, as a state, i'm sure we'll be able to recover from this. governor scott, thank you. >> so as soon as you hear something like this is happening, the first thing you start thinking about the families. you think about your own family. as a grandparent and a parent,

the first thing you think about is, god, i hope this never happens to my family. then you think about -- you're furious. how could this happen in this country or this state? you come to the conclusion this is just absolutely pure evil. this state does not tolerate violence. we have law enforcement that will always show up to defend our safety. as soon as this happened, i started having updates from sheriff israel. i've talked to donald trump. the commissioner of law enforcement, florida department law enforcement. and i know everybody has worked tirelessly to make sure we do everything to keep everybody safe and to have a thorough

investigation. my prayers are with everybody. i can't imagine what the families that are sitting there wondering if they've lost a family member. they don't know yet. those that do know they've lost a family member, i just can't imagine how their lives have been changed. like all of us, we'll be praying for each of those. everybody in the hospital, i pray for their full recovery. all the individuals that unfortunately had to go through this experience, i know there's going to be grief counselors and i'm sure it's going to be very, very difficult as they think through what happened and replay in their mind what happened. i just can't imagine going through that. after this press conference, i'm going to the hospital to do everything i can with those families. i'm going to continue to let local law enforcement, the school district, everybody involved know whatever state resources are necessary, we will provide whatever resources are

needed to do what we can, either with the investigation or help any family member that's impacted. again, i just -- this is just pure evil. but i will be staying here in broward county to do everything i can to be helpful. >> basically, minutes after this event happened, i got a call from our attorney general pam bondi. hours later, she's here. she sadly, when i was speaking to her privately, she knows all too well about these tragedies. she was in orlando in the aftermath of the pulse nightclub and she's come down here to help the families. so i'm going to bring her up here to talk about some of the things she'll do for our families. >> i cannot thank you, the governor, and the fbi, you've been incredible. all of the agencies working

together. it's a horrible tragedy. and sadly, we've been through this before. i was also out in nevada for the mass shooting. in fact, one of the victims called me on the way here from the nevada shooting and said, "i can't believe this is happening again." she still has ptsd, and she was a survivor. my office functioned in a way -- this is what we're going to be doing. i have five advocates headed in right now. i will have at least ten more tomorrow, driving in from all over the state. we will pay for the funeral expenses of these poor victims. the state of florida, we will pay for counseling for the surviving victims. we will pay for students who need counseling. we will have the paperwork that must be filled out. we bring it to the victims' families so they can get it done right now, don't have to worry about the expenses. we will take care of it.

gofundme reached out to me tonight. if you think you're going to scam people during this tragedy, you're not. they're monitoring every site that's popping up, and no money will be dispersed under gofundme unless they know it's legitimate. gofundme is making sure that those funds will go to true victims and their families. we've also reached out to the funeral homes, the directors in florida who have been great partners through pulse. we will not let funeral homes gouge us. they're sending down people tomorrow to help with the cost of the burial expenses for these victims. sadly, we've all become a club that we never wanted to be a part of, partnering with the fbi and now this is our third time dealing with such a mass tragedy. but we will continue to work

together as a team, as a family, and love and take care of all of these victims and their family members. that's why we're all here. governor, thank you for everything you do for our state. >> they bring in victim advocates. and her and her team will go through and help each family that has been impacted. the best way to reach out to the attorney general's office -- >>we'll find our victims. >> in this beautifully town of parkland where i've lived with my family, we lost a football coach from stoneman douglas high school tonight. my triplets graduated from this very school. we had a deputy sheriff's whose son was shot tonight, shot in the arm. he's at one of the local area hospitals. i'm being told he's being

treated with non-life-threatening injuries. if you know something or you've seen something, and you see something that's not right, you owe it to your family and you owe it to your community, and you owe it to law enforcement to make this a safer nation by calling up someone tonight. call up the fbi. call up the broward sheriff's office. call someone tonight and let them know that you have information that something's not right. you can prevent a major tragedy like this devastation that happened in parkland tonight. any questions? >> can you provide insight on the ages? how many were students? how many were teachers? whether all of the parents have been notified at this point, if in fact they do have a deceased son or daughter. >> no. i'll repeat what i said earlier. 12 of the victims have been

identified. their parents are in the process of being notified. some of these children had no idea. they left their backpacks and no cell phones. we're in the process of identifying these children and adults so their families can be notified. i can't elaborate any more than that. >> have you identified all students or is there anyone still missing? >> we have only identified 12 of the 17 that have lost their lives. >> do you know of anyone missing, student body wise? >> no. everybody's accounted for but we're identifying the victims. we don't know the names of the victims. >> but you've accounted for all the students in some way? >> yes. >> governor scott, question for you. are we all a society, politicians like you included --

people like you are very pro-gun and don't want to see gun restrictions. when do you take a stand or are you willing to take one now that it's in the backyard of your own state? what is your response? >> my heart goes out to everybody impacted today. all of us can internalize this, if it would happen to their family. all of us want to live in -- have everybody live in a safe community. and there's a time to continue to have these conversations about how through law enforcement, how through mental illness funding, that we make sure people are safe. and we'll continue to do that. >>what business does a

19-year-old have in having an ar-15? >> we're finding all the facts. there's a thorough investigation going on. the sheriff's department will release exactly what happened and how. we'll learn those things and then we can determine the future, how we continue to make this place safe. >> are there armed guards in the school to prevent this type of tragedy? >> yeah. you want to answer it? >> if a person -- i've said this over and over and over again. if a person is predisposed to commit such a horrific event by going to a school and shooting people, if a person is going to drive a truck into a crowded area, if a person is committed to committing great carnage, there's not anybody or not a lot law enforcement can do about it, or any entity could do about it. the only things we can do are

train very hard. and we do. we have to be able to mitigate and respond quickly so we can lessen the loss of lives. certainly, more money should go to mental health. i've said this time and time again. if we tear a knee up, we go to an orthopedic surgeon. if we have mental health issues, we need to be treated. but people who are the victim of mental health issues in this country are being treated, they should not be able to buy, surround themself, or purchase a handgun. those two things do not mix. thank you for coming out here. i think we've answered the appropriate questions. tomorrow we'll update you again. the most important thing is we need to pray tonight for these families, the victims, our communities, and we need to report anything we see that is different, that doesn't make sense, that can help us prevent

these mass tragedies. thank you all. appreciate it. >> all right, sean, that was broward county sheriff who has led the investigation all day. bondi right there. attorney general pam bondi, as well as governor rick scott flew in from tallahassee. they have met with all of the investigation leaders behind me. as we did just hear, sean, of the 17 fatalities. only 12 have been absolutely confirmed as far as theiritis -- their identities. they're trying to further identify some of these victims who left identification behind as they ran for their lives trying to escape what happened here. the accused suspect, whom he is

convinced is the lone gunman, a 19-year-old nicolas cruz. a former student of the marjory stoneman douglas high school, which is a quarter of a mile behind me. expelled last year. further details about where that student was enrolled this year, they cannot expand on per the broward county school superintendent. but clearly according to the sheriff, he was armed to the gills with magazines full of bullets, an ar-15 assault rifle and went to the school today. pulled the fire alarm in the afternoon, getting all of the students and teachers to suddenly flood the hallways and flee the classrooms, and then proceeded to one by one start opening fire. we have 17 confirmed fatalities, 15 others were wounded and have been treated or are still being treated at broward county florida hospital as we speak.

the suspected gunman, cruz, did get treatment at broward county north. he has since been released. we don't know how the gunman may have been injured, what those injuries were, but the gunman is alive and appears to be fine and is now being processed in custody at the broward county jail and in the next day or two will face a long list of very serious charges. 19 years old. that certainly entitles this defendant upon conviction of guilt to be going to life in prison for the rest of his life or perhaps in death row. no more details regarding motive, but according to social media investigations as well as other reports from other students, this was a student who seemed to try to enjoy being

perceived as strange and weird, had a fascination with guns and bombs, was wearing a gas mask, has gas grenade or smoke grenades on his person. that is the latest. this is just getting started here as far as the investigation, sean. >> all right, phil. 17 families tonight having to deal with losing loved ones. unbelievable. a lot of kudos. we just heard from the local sheriff, the school superintendent and of course the governor, the attorney general of the state of florida, pam bondi, rick scott, everybody, all hands on deck today in what is an unbelievable tragedy and obviously pre-med --

>>when you look at the death toll, it does appear the shooter planned this out meticulously. he was enrolled just a few months ago before he was expelled for disciplinary reasons. so at 2:00 in the afternoon, he knew his former classmates would be on the third floor of the school building, and he knew that by pulling the fire alarm, it would draw students into the hall and toward the gunfire. last year many of the suspect's classmates joked that if there was a school shooting, he would be the attacker. he planned to use them because shooting weapons gave him "an exhilarating feeling." one teacher said cruz made threats against students last year and was listed an a security threat. he was not to be allowed on

campus with a backpack. and now buzzfeed is reporting that last year nicolas cruz complained to him that he was being bullied and tired of it. on instagram, nicolas cruz followed several gun groups, posted pictures of himself brandishing knives and guns. and he recently posted a picture online of a bullseye riddled with bullets and reads "group therapy, you should try it." >>all right. we keep going back, every time these shootings occur. we've got the social media footprint. and one has to wonder why there's not a stronger presence.

when you have one kid saying today, everyone predicted it about this student, or this student wasn't allowed to bring a backpack to school and the student was expelled. i don't want to politicize this as others have already tonight. but can we have retired military, retired policemen in our schools as a first line of defense. it doesn't mean it's going to work every time. if they have an active shooter in an administrative building of any kind, would they rather have retired military and police there. i think we owe it to our students because i don't think you can take evil out of people's hearts. >> and there's a big debate about whether or not you have armed police officers on campus. this school did have a police presence at all times. but the question remains, do useful armed police officers? and as far as the social media aspect of it, it goes on every campus across the country. there are privacy laws that

protect a lot of these kids. the problem becomes, if you see something, you say something. every one of these kids that spoke out today said, look, we knew last year. we jokingly said if there was a school shooting, this would be the guy who did it. but the question is did they tell the teachers. the one teacher that said that this kid was a threat, that he was deemed a security threat and if he brought a backpack on campus, that teachers should notify the school administration. and that same question was asked of the school superintendent and the superintendent says there was no security threat or any kind of intimidation that we know of. >> if a kid gets thrown out of school -- and i'm not blaming anybody. you always blame the person responsible. if you're going to throw a kid out of school for disciplinary reasons, it might be a wise thing to offer counseling and

maybe look at the social media aspect of what might be going through their mind. trace, stay with us. we're going to get back to you in a second. we go back to parkland. phil, i don't think the attorney general can hear me. if she could go into the whole aspect of a social media imprint, what some of these shooters are saying online. are we capturing enough of this? are we paying enough attention to that? >> all right, sean. the first thing he wants me to ask you before we get to what you said with president trump today is social media and what some of these killers and accused killers in these mass murders and shooting sprees are posting or hinting at or alluding to. what can we do about that from a law enforcement perspective? >> first of all, when they're posting it on social media, they have followers. so kids are out there, parents, you've got to monitor this stuff. and if you see it, take

everything seriously. take every threat seriously and report it to law enforcement. we would rather you do that than be wrong 99% of the time than have anything happen in this world. and these teens now are vocal on social media. they don't just pop up from anywhere. there are warning signs. if you see warning signs with your child, if you know some of your kids' friends, you need to report it. you need to go to school counselors. you need to let people know that something isn't right. >> last summer you spent so much time in orlando for the pulse nightclub shooting. how sickened were you today when you got the call? >> it was heartbreaking. and immediately i came down here. but on my way down, i also went to las vegas when they had the mass shooting at the concert out there. and one of the victims that i still keep in touch with, she

has a bullet lodged in her spine. she contacted me on my down and she's so traumatized, crying, saying she's still praying for the victories here. we have partnered with the great men and women of the fbi who are victims advocates with mine and we're working to get these families through this, to get them the counseling, the help they need, and to not be taken advantage of during this tragedy. >> attorney general bondi has been known for really tough law and order attorney general in the state of florida. if we can't monitor evil that's in people's hearts, is it time -- what about retired military, retired police in every school? at least have some frontline of defense to give some capacity to stop carnage when it starts like

this. >> as an aggressive law enforcer and the chief law enforcement officer in the state of florida, the fourth most populous state in the country. >> third. >> third. is it feasible and plausible, and should we do it, start having armed guards at every school, if not armed guards, do you have retired military or law enforcement to provide a beefier scenario in and around schools as a form of deterrent? >> i firmly agree with that. yes, that's why we have school resource officers. do they need more help? yes. of course if we have the funding for it, i think we do, i think we need that now. that's what we're seeing around this world. and we have to protect our kids from these monsters. president trump called me tonight and we talked at length. he is heartbroken and praying for all these families.

how are the families? and that's where i'm headed now, today my job as attorney general and with my advocates, provide counseling, funeral expenses and mental health counseling for all these traumatized victims as well. >> president trump is scheduled to be in orlando in light of this. did he indicate whether he would also be making a visit down here? >> all we talked about, his only concern tonight is the victims, as it should be. all he asked about were, "how are the victims? how are the families?" she was so word about -- he was so worried about the family and the victims. >> and granted, we are very early into the prosecution of this case. but clearly he's 19 years old. he is eligible for the death penalty, eligible for full convictions on murder, multiple counts and life in prison.

>> well, you're talking to a career prosecutor who has prosecuted death penalty cases. we don't know the a -- >>and i can't talk about the facts now, but given what i know, i would firmly believe it would be a death penalty case. >> thank you for being with us here. he said, as a grandparent, a parent, you see this on the news and wonder could this happen to me? your heart sinks. his conclusion was, this man, this suspect is nothing but pure evil. >> thank you. the president did say no child, teacher, or anyone else should ever feel unsafe in an american

school. i just think that once they put -- i don't think you're going to change anybody's mind on the gun debate. i don't think that's going to happen. but can we have former military, former police inside the schools, defending against people that want to get in that shouldn't get in there, that you can lock the doors, have one, two, three entrances? we've got to answer these questions sooner than later. anyway, earlier today, one of the students inside the school when the shooting started. her name is megan hill. listen to her describe this harrowing scene. >> i was sitting in class, the bottom floor of the freshman building. we all dove to the side where the windows were. our teacher told us to get to the side closest to the door. so we ran behind the desk. good thing the door was locked. i was sitting right behind the cabinet and the bullet passed my ear got a girl next to me.

911 wasn't working on my phone. apparently the guy got out there, there was dead bodies in the hallway. people were killed in the hallway. my sister was running. she ran from him and got luckily into a room that she found open. >> on the phone right now is that student that you just heard from, megan hill. megan, thank you for taking the time to join us. you're a junior, as i understand it. you're in a room. this door is locked. this guy is shooting. take it from there. what happened from there, megan? >> as the shooter was in the hallway, i'm not sure if i was the first room. he shot through the glass window, did not open our door. and he turned the gun toward the side of the wall where the student was sitting. he shot four people. one was dead. there were three other injured. a girl was shot in her ribs. i was told to stay calm.

all i wanted to do was help. after ten minutes, i finally couldn't stand it anymore. i took off my jean jacket. i threw it over the desk and tried to help someone in front of me. everyone was trying to stay calm. i finally got a hold of my sister mackenzie. she was in the second floor bathroom, got into a door safely. and the teacher -- they're not allowed to open the doors for a policy on code red. but he luckily did and he saved her. she was put into a room and survived. it's just very traumatizing. we were told to leave the building. heads down and run. there were bodies on the floor, i'm not sure dead or not. we were just told to run. and here's my sister mackenzie. >> hi, this is mackenzie. >> yeah, go ahead, megan. >> hi, this is her sister mackenzie hill. first of all, i want to say i'm

so sorry for all of the victims and their families. >> megan, let me -- so all of the sudden, the door of your classroom is locked. and the shooter shoots through the door. then sticks his gun into the classroom. four people get shot right in front of you. one person you believe is -- died, is instantly killed. you're trying to help a friend of yours and pass over your jean jacket. and what happened from that point? i didn't fully understand. >> from that point on, in about a couple of minutes, the swat team and police banged on our door. we ducked down. they came in and asked who was hurt. we told them the four people that were hurt. they got them out of the door

and they escorted us. >> yeah. and then about ten minutes go by. in the interim ten-minute period, did he stay shooting long? how long was he actually shooting into the classroom? >> he was shooting into the classroom no longer than a couple of seconds. he was shooting in the hallway up at the ceiling and dust was falling onto us. and then he turned his gun to the right and shot a couple of people. >> and then i guess you heard a loud bang and that was the police coming to rescue all of you? >> yes. >> i can't even imagine what it had to be like for you. and you had your twin sister who was on the floor above you in the bathroom? >> well, actually, she was actually -- she's in that class with me. it's ap psychology. five minutes before the shooting actually happened, she asked the teacher to go to the restroom.

the restroom on the first floor was walked, so she went up to the second floor. she was with a friend. and she left the bathroom. and she saw the shooter but got into a classroom just in time for them to let her into the room. >> i understand your sister was there. she was in the second-floor bathroom. i don't know if she can hear me. but you had an experience that you went up to the bathroom. you both i guess are in ap psych. and there is a freshman girl that had severe asthma. and take it from there. and all the teachers had locked the door and you guys are running literally door to door and this poor girl is obviously struggling, right? >> correct. while i was in the bathroom, i heard 10 to 15 gunshots. i ran to the nearest classroom. i went to the door and the teacher in the classroom under school policy, they would not let me in because of this school

policy. and luckily they let me inside the classroom. i feel that if the teacher knows in his gut that he can let you in the classroom in the scenario i was in, then he should do it because if that teacher did not let me in, i could have been killed today. and i'm very grateful for that teacher. and as i got in the classroom, the teacher locked the door after me. everyone was crying, too. immediately, i contacted my sister who was in the classroom on the third floor, not knowing anything. she did not respond and i could not bear the fact of losing my best friend. and i heard nothing else. i did not know if she was inside. >> yeah. i want to say this to both you and your sister, megan. both of you showed amazing today, megan trying to help the girl next to her and you obviously helping this poor girl

that had this asthma attack as she's going on there. >> yes, her inhaler was on the first floor. i was trying to calm her down. >> when did you actually reunite? because how long after was it that you were able to find your sister again? >> well, after i got out of the building, she told me that she got out an hour before me she was because she was already down the street waiting for me? and i didn't know she was inside because i was in my classroom and told to silence my cell phone. i finally see her. and as i walk out the building, i'm seeing blood and people wounded everywhere. and it just broke my heart. i couldn't bear the fact that someone could come to this school and shoot up stoneman douglas. it was like a dream to me. i couldn't believe it. i'm still in shock right now. >> yeah. i can't imagine how hard this is for both of you. both of you showed amazing courage today under the most difficult of circumstances.

no child should have to see that ever. megan, mackenzie, thank you both. we miss you and your families and your friends obviously, you're going to have a very tough week ahead, as these families and school is struggling. this is a very tight-knit community in parkland. thank you both. criminal defense attorney ted willia williams. we saw the police, the sheriff, the fbi. we see first responders. you see everybody, the superintendent, the governor, the attorney general, everybody all hands on deck today. i was watching this all unfold live when i was on my radio show today and just how amazing these people are. but it's after the fact. do we need to reconsider safety

for these schools? >> well, yeah, i think we do. but let me say, sean, from the beginning, the interview you just had with those two young women. we saw the best of america in those two young women. and when you look at this guy nicolas cruz, you're seeing, as the governor said, pure evil. this was a cold-blooded, calculated, carried-out carnage massacre. and we do have to start rethinking how we have guards and security in these various schools. the sad commentary, sawn -- sean, is we cannot make our schools a prison. we did have a guard there. but if somebody is hellbent on going in a school and killing young people, 12 of these beautiful young people are dead tonight. this is a tragedy, sean, in and of itself.

>> this is not a political statement. i know i'm known for talking politics all the time. this is not political. i don't think it is something that most people would disagree with. and manny, i'll throw this to you. if you're in any administration building -- in this case it's a school. it seems there's got to be greater order in terms of monitoring who's getting into these schools. i know schools that monitor and control who gets into them. it can be done and it can be done fairly easily. but more importantly -- and they did have a guard. but a school this big with 3200 students and multiple buildings, it seems to me you need a few people in each building. retired military, retired police. and i would think over time that families -- we're not talking about all that much money at the end of the day if each district

is paying for that security. every buildings i walk into in new york city, every single building, if i don't have an id, i will go through security. and if i don't have a clearance, i'm not getting in. and if we can do it in every building in new york post-9/11, i would think we can do it in every school in america if we want to. >> this has nothing to do with guns. this has to do with protecting our children. i totally agree with you in terms of having former military and/or former law enforcement. one way to do it is to perhaps federalize it. so that might be something that congress may want to consider and moving forward set up a federal system to protect our schools, because some school districts honestly don't have the budget for it or may not be

willing to raise taxes for it, even though it's a necessary thing. >> at the end of the day, we've got to put a price -- i remember the movie years ago "lean on me." it was about the principal joe clark. he got in trouble because he chained the school door shut. that's not necessarily the answer. there should be very specific entry points and other entry points should be closed off. but beyond that -- and look, i don't know if it would be applicable in this situation. but i've got to believe in some situations that if you have first-line defenders there, people that are trained, retired military, retired police, that they're going to be able to at least hold off for the five minutes. the police got there. the sheriff got there. they got there as fast as humanly possible. swat team was there. first responders were there. everyone did their job today and did it so well. but i'm just thinking for the long term, we've got to secure

these schools. again, it's not about guns. it's secure the schools. >> 100%. >> i've got to tell both you guys, i disagree. it is also about guns. if you put a security guard in with a pop gun in one of these schools and you've got a guy come in with an ar-15 rifle -- >>i'm talking about armed former military and armed former police. these are people we trust. those retired military and police would become the best friends of the students over time. they get to know each other. it would be good all the way around for everybody. we can secure anything we want to secure in this country and nobody's going to convince me otherwise. >> i totally agree. so going back to former military, former law enforcement as an added benefit, going back to your win-win, now you have

somebody who's been trained. and if there's other things going on in the school, this is a trained professional that can deal with that, identify it, investigate it and deal with it. so that's an added benefit of having somebody of that caliber there. but it has to be funded. and it has to be a serious conversation where we as a nation say enough and we need to fund this just perhaps, like i mentioned, the tsa program. >> i was not talking about unarmed former retired military police. they don't have to be showing -- they could obviously have it concealed. but they certainly would be the front line of defense. but i do believe securing those doors. nobody that is expelled from the school should have access to that school ever. the other thing is paying attention to mental health issues or disgruntled kids or disciplinary issues, looking at the social media footprint of a

kid you throw out of school. apparently, we're learning we could have learned a lot about this kid. and that happens after almost every shooting. people are telegraphing where they're headed. >> you're right. if you see something, you need to say something. and we don't have enough of that. but i was also happy, i must say -- and i'm using the word happy and encouraged about what pam bondi, the attorney general said there as it pertains to the death penalty. when you put gas masks on, when you put smoke bombs, you go in a school and pull an alarm, you're able to shoot all these people and then able to leave that school and i want to find out that you're mentally ill. i have a serious problem with mental illness when you have the sense to do all of that. >> i know schools that have this security and it works. thank you both.

joining us now, larry elder and american first action spokesman senior advisor former milwaukee county sheriff david clark. what about the idea? let's protect the kids. forget about all the other debates? ex-former military, retired military, retired police. every school should have basic fundamental security. we should secure anything we choose to secure. >> they should be at least as secure as airports. i heard about this taking her from her school to her after school activity. another loser with an ar-15 slaughtering the innocent. how did he get the gun? where was his family, parents, friends? it is just absolutely outrage s

outrageous. when are we going to see this is a national emergency? what about $25 billion in making our schools secure from these savages that all they want to do is -- >>you will agree with me, we've got to get away from already the same predictable, frankly, insane and intellectually lightweight debates are going on. this is we can secure these schools if we choose to. we have the mindset, the manpower, the people to do it. and i don't even think it would be that expensive. we just have to decide we're going to secure it. >> i agree with everything you're saying. and i want exactly that as the remedy, sean. but the ar-15 was designed to kill people.

we've been selling them like hot cakes. >> this is not a gun debate. >> i've carried firearms for 30 years of my life, geraldo. and there are guns that also protect people, guns in the hand of retired military and guns in the hand of retired police with track regards that are beyond a admirable are going to protect those schools not perfectly. but it would go a long way to making every school safer. and if we need them in some schools, you put the metal detectors in. >> i couldn't agree with you more. i want to just say to my friend geraldo, far more people are killed with handguns than ar-15s. you would be banning all of the weapons. >> that's a bogus argument.

>> let me just finish. >> did you hear the guns going off in that classroom? did you hear that ar-15? did you hear that bang, bang, bang? and there's a kid defenseless and this guy's got a long rifle and he's popping with that. come on with this debate already. >> when you're done, i'll answer. far more people are killed with regular handguns than ar-15s. if the goal is to eliminate death, then you'll be eliminating regular handguns. are you prepared to do that? i don't think you are. what common-sense gun control measure can we pass to minimize the carnage? if it was some sort of common-sense gun control legislation, which is a phrase you guys always use, that doesn't slightly the second amendment. i'm done with it. tell me what it is. >> i don't think it's about the gun. i don't think anybody's mind is going to be changed.

i've been on radio 30 years. i'm now on my 23rd here at the fox news channel. i believe in the second amendment. i disagree with geraldo because you could easily bring in any gun. you know how quickly clips could be changed out or you bring in multiple guns with you. i support guns as a safety feature, especially in the hands of retired military and police. he's right. this is a national emergency at this point. let's save the kids, secure these schools. we can do it if we decide to do it. >> well, sure, sean. we're all shocked after what happened today. but the worst thing you can do i think in a time like this in the early stages, your emotion takes over. you can't let emotion take over policy. you have bad policy.

we should have this discussion at the state level, not nationally, about armed guards in school to protect these valuable assets, our children. the left call that a crazy idea. and then what happens long after these incidents occur, everybody forgets about it and they just go home and the discussion doesn't continue until the next incident. so i think, again, we need to have that discussion to occur at the state level. but this is not a gun control issue. we don't need any knee jerk reactions, which is what i hear after things like this. my god, let's let the grieving period happen for these families. >> and now literally they didn't have id and they're still identifying them. i think there is a middle ground here that would keep these kids safe. thank you all for being with us. when we come back, the mindset, social media aspects of people

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>>sad tragic day, 17 dead after the school shooting in florida. joining us now live on the scene in parkland, radio talk show host is with us. dr. gina, the social media imprint we see after the shooting, signs and symptoms. what should we be doing in terms of looking at this more often? >> definitely we should, sean. and you make a great point. the first thing i did was look up this man's instagram. and i notice that there were animals dead on his instagram. that's a definite sign, something we worry about in this field. and make sure your kids have meaningful relationships outside of social media. and that goes not only for kids that are troubled, but even the children now going through the grieving process. >> he lost his mother.

we knew he was troubled. he got kicked out of schools. should they be offering, in this case, counseling ahead of time? >> you hope they are. and i don't know what they're doing, but i myself would volunteer to help, as i know the good doctor here would. i think everywhere to take a hard look at one thing we're not looking at, too. that's psychotropeic drugs. >> we appreciate your insight. >> sean, what we need are not metal detectors. we need mental health detectors. when we see something, as you say, we have to say something. it's the only way that we can slow these people down or prevent it from happening all together. >> thanks so much for being

with us. our thoughts and prayers go out to these 17 families tonight. we need some solutions. got to be a middle ground here. laura ingraham is straight ahead. we'll see you back here tomorrow night. >> good evening from washington. this is the ingraham angle on this dreadful evening. we have everything you need to know about this horrific school shooting. 17 people killed, many others wounded, at least a dozen more. most have been identified but not all. it was absolutely terrifying, shocking, and harrowing. eyewitnesses who were on the scene. you see some of that video there when the s