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in fact a forecast suspect being taken into jail after leaving the broward county sheriff's office. this just happened moments ago. rob: yeah. it's a tough morning for everybody. sad story. our coverage of this tragedy continues right now with "fox & friends." ♪ [gunfire] oh my god. oh my god. [screams] [repeat th repeated gunfire] steve: that was yesterday as it was happening. we start with "fox & friends" fox news alert. expelled former student unleashed a killing spree. at least 17 people are dead. more than a dozen others hurt and in the hospital. ainsley: moments ago the shooter led out of the browrtd county sheriff's department on his way to jail. brian: that's what makes this different. he is alive. our own todd piro is in parkland, florida with breaking news on the
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investigation. hey, todd. >> hey steve, hey ainsley, hey brian. overnight we learned brand new information about the killer as the investigation continues at the scene here behind me of yesterday's carnage. and also at a mobile home park that's about 30 minutes away from where we are standing right now. there, a massive police presence was reported overnight. sources saying it is in connection with the shooting. a neighbor in the area said police told him it was some kind of explosive at one of the homes. as for yesterday's nightmare the pictures from inside the school terrifying. students trying to find cover under desks. shaking and crying and not knowing what's about to happen. the gunman mercilessly killing at least 17 innocent victims, setting off fire alarms and then shooting those fleeing with an ar-15. reports of him wearing a gas mask and having smoke bombs on him during his carnage. trying to sneak out in a fleeing crowd before being arrested in a nearby
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neighborhood. >> good thing the door was located. he spooked in and shot right next to me. ight sitting next to a cabinet and the bullet went past my ear and hit a girl next to me. todd: with each passing hour a picture of 19-year-old nicholas cruz becomes clear. his adopghtive mother died last november he was living with another family. he was expelled from school fighting with exgirlfriend's new boyfriend. he had been abusive to the girl. cruz is seen with pictures of guns and knives, bragging about shooting animals. the broward county sheriff calling the post very disturbing. many people described him as, quote, obsessed with guns. former neighbor says police were called to his home multiple times and was seen shooting at a neighbor's chickens, words like sketchy, weird, off, strange, troubled, and super stressed out all the times used by multiple students to describe the killer. one student even told local
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media that, quote: everyone predicted the shooting with kids even joking before yesterday that one day he would shoot up the school. >> he wahe wasn't shy but he wouldn't talk a lot. he was like that weird kid at school that you see walking around in school. >> would you describe him as a loner. >> yeah, like a loner. todd: the fbi is now asking anyone with any pictures from outside or inside the school from yesterday to please get them to them as soon as possible so they can piece everything together in their investigation. all while the major question remains if all these signs were known, steve, ainsley and brian then why couldn't this be stopped. in addition to. so kids saying if anything ever bad happened here we knew it would be him. there apparently was a teacher at this particular
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high school as well who ided him as potential threat to class maids last year. that's why he was not allowed on campus with a backpack. if there's somebody you are not going to let on with a backpack there is good reason not to let them on at all. ainsley: something that also shocked me one of the students said he liked to kill animals, little animals like frogs. they said he was a racist and had a crazy mind. that accords to one student. one student said he did anything crazy for a laugh but he was troubled, that student said. brian: this is not one of those things where you are going to hear people say it's a surprise. he seemed totally normal. almost nobody that interacted with this nikolas cruz thought he was normal. classmates said also after he was expelled that he was fighting a lot. and you can't carry a backpack. also, you have to wonder what he was doing on campus. and then also the motive of trying to survive. afterwards he walks out with
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the kids and picked up a mile later. first spotted, i believe, by a chopper and surrounded and seemed to be taken away without incident. one of the students talked about him, the shooter that he knew. >> how did you know about his guns? >> he showed me personally through his phone and stuff like that. i stayed clear of him most of the time during my time in alternative school. i don't want to be with him at all. i didn't want to cause any conflict with him. i get the impression he could go off. ainsley: that teenager was interviewed by a reporter there on the scene. this kid who is responsible for this allegedly. steve: right there in the burgundy shirt. ainsley: he was adopted at birth by an older couple. and his adoptive father died 13 years ago. his adoptive mother died three and a half months nag november. steve: some people said well, he was depressed at the time. but then again his mother died three and a half months ago on november 1st.
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you would be depressed as well. there you can see him with some of the kids running out. pam bondi the attorney general from florida says, look, when you see warning signs, tell somebody. tell the police. >> they are posting it on social media. they have followers. so kids who are out there, parents, you've got to monitor this stuff. if you see it, take everything seriously. take every threat seriously. and report it to law enforcement. we would rather you do that and be wrong 99% of the time than have anything happen in this world. and these teens now are vocal on social media. they don't just pop up from anywhere. there are warning signs. brian: everything she said makes sense but also looks like people noticed this. according to one report, somebody who sat next to him during school say you know i have been kicked out of two other schools he told them. prior schools. and then he would later be kicked out of this one. and then you have a relative
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on long island where his adoptive parents lived 20 years ago before took them as infants over to florida, say they believe he was on medication. and his brother said that his half-brother reportedly said i could always hear him lootiond and unloading the gun all night. ainsley: if you look at his instagram posts taken down. we decided as a news channel not to show you because they are very graphic. pictures of his covered up. holding up a gun and the captions are really sick. one says pisto pistol fun is blank. knives that are huge. he says mother blanking knives, he goes on to say. then he has a bulls eye and at the bottom of the bulls eye and the bulls eye is shot right in the middle. it says group therapy. he writes in that picture it really does blanking work. give it a try. steve: there can you see him
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be restrained before he was being taken to the sheriff's office. he is put on a gurney because apparently he was reporting a racing heart as you would well imagine. what's interesting about all those images though is he is wearing that burgundy or purple shirt. that's actually a junior rotc polo shirt that he's wearing. not wearing it in that image right there. nonetheless, it does look as if there were some warning signs did. they rise to the level of being really concerned or is this simply something regarding mental illness which we have heard in the past. here's the sheriff of broward county, florida. >> if a person is predisposed to commit such a horrific event like going to a school and shoot people, there's not anybody or not a lot law enforcement can do about it or any entity can do about it. the only things we can do are train very hard. we have to be able to mitigate. we have to be able to respond quickly so we can lessen the loss of lives. i have said this time and time again. you know, if we tear a knee
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up, we go to an orthopedic surgeon. if we have mental health issues, we need to be treated. but while people who are the victim of mental health illnesses in this country are being treated, the opinion of this sheriff they should not be able to buy, surround themself, purchase, other carry a hand gun. brian: wow. so there are some stories that are going to come out from what happened behind the scenes where people went because they had a fire drill in the morning. they did have somewhat of a plan should this happen. but the enormity of the school with over 3,000 students 15 minutes before the final bell, you wonder how you could possibly be organized. they said it was definitely hindered by the fact that people just ran. a lot of them left their backpacks out and made it very hard to secure the scene. there is another story out there that showed a football coach who works as a security guard there. and actually graduated in 1999. we have some sad news about him. ainsley: coach aaron fiis is
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his name. he was hired as the head coach of the jay vee football team. we have gotten word this morning that he has passed away. brian: evidently he shielded students from gunfire. ainsley: jumped in front of them. steve: he is one of the feel who at 2:40 yesterday when the staff heard the gunshots, they went in to code red lockdown. what you do is you lock your door. you lock the door that the students are in a classroom. you lock it so they can't get in presumably. keep in mind, this guy, reportedly, rang the fire alarm. what happens? all the doors open and all those kids are out there. listen to some of the children remembering what happened. >> he shot through my door. three in my classroom got hurt. i just saw blood everywhere. i actually heard the gunshot. i heard at least four, boom, boom, boom, boom. >> people were running and pushing. >> i hid in the tennis courts and then we ran in
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the locker room. we were in there for hours. >> it's valentine's day so it shouldn't be happening. >> we thought it was a fire drill but we heard the shots before hand and guessing he wanted everybody to come out. >> one of my friends died. it hasn't hit me yet. >> in the hallway saw big pile of blood like kind of smeared like they were dragged away. >> i was praying to god thinking that he could save us all and we could make it. brian: this is unbelievable. third shooting this year. deadliest since 2000 12. "the washington post" put this together. they said beginning with columbine 19 years ago, more than 150,000 students attending at 170 primary and second dear schools have experienced a shooting on campus. ainsley: you know, kids, you look at that video. some of them look so young. think about your freshman year in high school, how young you were. and these kids are experiencing this and seeing people, their friends slaughtered in a classroom. 17 families are without their kids this morning,
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waking up the worst nightmare ever imaginable. parents spend their whole lives raising these kids trying to work really hard to give their kids a great life. in one instance, this guy, this evil, evil person goes in and takes that away from else should ever feel unsafe in an american school. brian: i don't know if the security guys are armed or not. but that is key. i know on long island, in my school in particular, almost everybody are excops or detectives and they are allowed to carry a gun. until they get to the high school. they aren't supposed to guard a high school, junior high school or grammar school without a gun. i don't understand that logic. steve: there is a lot to not understand. we don't know whether any
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gun laws were broken. it sounds like he bought the gun legally. were warning signs missed? what about the social media guns and animals. break down of the family. adoptive mom died three months ago. real mom died a decade ago. nobody told anybody. something is not working. getting up on this thursday morning. think about he what did. brian: living in a trailer park with another kid. 13 minutes after the hour. next, we dig into the history of this florida high school shooter. could anything have been done to stop him? were there warning signs? did people actually do did people actually do something and were they ignored? ainsley: ed davis led the hunt for the boston bomber and he can going to weigh in next. ♪ ♪ copd makes it hard to breathe.
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>> already began to dissect his web sites and the things that social media that he was on and some of the things that come to mind are very, very disturbing. ainsley: this morning new details about the troubled teenager school shooting in parkland, florida. brian: weighs deemed enough of a threat that officials were warned about ever allowing him on campus get this with a backpack. they would eventually expel him from the school.
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steve: ed davis the former chief of the boston police department and he joins us right now from boston. mr. commissioner, if somebody is not allowed on a campus with a backpack, there's a problem. >> no question about that. there are incredible issues here where this man was telegraphing his intent to do this. some of the students who have been interviewed on camera say he actually threatened to shoot up the school. that's a crime. it should be recognized as that and reported. and then people can take the right action to try to eliminate this threat. you need to take these things seriously and, unfortunately, this one fell through the cracks. brian: commissioner, pam bondi says if you see signs on this. people fog him on instagram. see horrific pictures is he posting. contact police. if this happens and we do contact police because we see the warning signs, what exactly can you do because at this point the kid hadn't done anything wrong.
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>> well, first of all, social media is a very important tool that police can use. there is a lot of people that a we shouldn't be looking at it but, in this day and age that's like saying we shouldn't be reading the newspaper. police should have software that flags these postings and this software exists right now. we use it in my business. unfortunately police are having trouble getting it because of privacy issues. there are tools that can be put in place that will augment the need to see something, say something. so that he would close these loops before they turn into these terrible tragedies. brian: by the way, if you are seeing this video for the first time. you are saying it just happened. so we're watching it with you for the first time. not this but the previous video off the shooter being walked through. steve: he was being transferred from the sheriff's department to the police department. >> the good news about that is that he was questioned extensively last night. they might get some ideas
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that will help us in the future on these issues. brian: if i'm going to do a back grouped check. this 19-year-old wants an ar-15. he doesn't have arrest record. say that's indeed the case. if you listen to the half-brother or the relative, he is on some type of medication. if you go on the social media site. manual, does he look like a threat. does that pop up on the background check? >> ? is very personal to me. it is not. i issued a gun permit to a man who had severe psychological issues who was under significant treatment by a psychiatrist and he used that gun to kill people. so, right now our system is broken. we need to connect the mental health issues to the licensing people. steve: you are right. something just isn't working right. commissioner, thank you very much for joining us today from boston. ainsley: thanks, commissioner. we don't even know why he did it but democrats are already saying that gun already saying that gun control should have stopped that high school shooter.
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steve: florida senator marco rubio warning people to not jump to conclusions about what happened in the school shooting before knowing all the facts. >> who this person is, what motivated them. how did they get ahold of the weapon that they used dr. darrell porcher screen left along with former police intel officer buck sexton in the middle and
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former new york city police department investigator lou palonbo. googood morning to you. >> good morning. steve: anybody on this panel think more gun laws would have stopped this. >> far more complicated issue than gun control. antiseptic introduced by the left so to speak. we have to take in consideration socioeconomics, public health. education three components the key component to this. look at the historical time line and what happened in that particular school district. this is somewhat of an affluent community. steve: it is. >> the issues there. the fornications put in place i. ific ific steve: with somebody pulls the fire alarm someone is out in the hall and you are a sitting duck. >> the security procedures are often going to be a
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casualty mitigation casualty mitigation function. meaning once one of these things get started the protocols you have in place limit the casualties you have. if somebody gets on the school grounds with a semiautomatic rifle and trying to clear somebod. on the gun control issue until we know if a law was broken we can't begin to look at what would be a possible change. there is no loophole to address. address. i have to say when you look at some of the other major shootings, you are talking about legally owned guns or guns stolen from a legal gun owner there no law that you can conjure up that would have stopped this based on gun control. >> there is a bigger issue here. it is tangential to gun control it deals with mental illness. the interesting part of the three of us and i want to correct you guys i'm retired from the police department. steve: okay. >> we all came from the law enforcement community. part of our vetting process was psychological screening.
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rorschach, and psychiatrists. psychiatrists. we have changed as a culture. i'm a stout supporter of the second amendment but also a stout supporter of change. we need to put in a mechanism that no longer allows individuals who are mentally or emotionally defective from obtaining these firearms. so, a lot of what we're talking about today we're going to talk about again in the future because this isn't the last of these incidents. steve: the big question is where do you draw the line? for instance, there were some children in that school yesterday who said you know we always joked that if anybody came on campus, it would be that guy. but then again he was working at a dollar store and abc went and talked to the people at the dollar store they said he was loyal. he was trustworthy. he would show up for his job a half an hour before the shift started. he was a dream employee. how do you figure it out? >> all senses lead to this person being a sociopath. when we look at his mutilation of animals. propensity for gun violence.
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in some way, shape, or form we should have highlighted in situation to law enforcement. oftentimes when we look at the school community, it's in two components. steve: the social media stuff though, who does that? is it friends of the kid who narcotiwhonarc on him. >> you can't rely on administrators or law enforcement officers to be the first line of understanding when someone on social media presence has crossed over. obviously a lot of people on social media. the issue then becomes what do you with someone who has not actually broken the law although i do believe some of the social media posts did impose a threat. to try to commit them to mental institution against their will without breaking the law difficult to do with good reason. >> most schools have what we refer to as resource officer or police officer. that law enforcement or that security expert or analyst should have been a person that should have been able to trouble shoot this individual. >> one of the problems is that this young man is not
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an anomaly in our culture there are thousands of these children who are quite disenfranchised across the country. if the expectation is for law enforcement or school teachers, for example, to start to intercede on every type of case like this where there is a flag of some type of behavior that doesn't seem to be? sinsinsiwe will be back here ina week or a month talking about this again. we can speak about putting armed people in academic environments, hardens these environments. steve: can't turn in t. into a fort. how we need to address that part of this. steve: something simply is not working. thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having us. steve: we have been talking about this. can school shootings ever be prevented. the judge says yes. how? arm the teachers. he is going to join us live next. >> all i hear is the gunshots. >> i just saw blood everywhere. everywhere. >> this is just absolutely pure evil.
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♪ brian: we're back with a fox news alert. it's not a good one. a football coach, four the first victim identified in that horrific school shooting in florida yesterday, aaron feis, he shielded kids, apparently from gunfire as the shooter gunned down students. he struggled for his life, we think, for hours. steve: heart break spreading throughout the community. that was just one of that city, parkland just named one of florida's safest cities, believe it or not. ainsley: caroline shively following this story closely for us. she is live down in parkland, florida with the very latest on the victims. caroline? >> good morning to you guys. the numbers are absolutely staggering. 17 dead. 15 more injured. and hundreds upon hundreds of students who were in that classroom, in that school are traumatized this
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morning. just think of what they lived through. we are seeing that through some of their postings on social media. they flipped over desks. they hid in closets. they listened to that gunfire as nikolas cruz the accused gunman in this case first shot outside the school then shot his way into the school. pulling the fire alarm. causing them to pour out of those classrooms before they realized what was happening. listening to the gunfire not knowing if they would make it through the day. here is what some of the victims said yesterday. >> all i heard was the gunshots. the police cleared us for us to go outside, i see dead bodies on the floor. >> i know that three people, i think about three in my classroom got hurt. i just saw blood everywhere. >> there was a lot of blood everywhere leaving the hallway, looking on the floor, seeing blood and just kids. >> and counselors will be provided for students and staffers affected in this shooting going on today and tomorrow and as long as it
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is needed. back to you guys. steve: all right. caroline shively live in park land, thank you very much. judge andrew napolitano joins us right now. a fox news senior judicial analyst. so, we just saw this guy being transferred from the sheriff to the police. what happens next? >> well, they will decide to try him as an adult. is he an adult. they will probably seek the death penalty. that's a long way from now. his lawyers will probably challenge whether he is a death penalty eligible either because of his age or because of his mental status. a judge will make that decision. and then there will be a traditional old-fashioned jury trial did he do it and the second fades of the trial death penalty. if he pleads guilty, he still is entitled to a jury still is entitled to a jury trial on the issue of death. judges in america cannot condemn people to death. only juries can. so that's a funny little quirk in the law. it's hard to predict how this is going to play out. but he clearly is an adult biologically and he clearly
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committed a crime that is worthy of death penalty. say again? steve: he appears mentally stable. >> appearances are sometimes deceiving. we don't know. you know, the president said last night it's a mental health issue. mental health is a broad array of behavioral patterns and we have to put our finger on this one. but we can't just say he is crazy and, therefore, he shouldn't be punished, obviously. there has to be the severist punishment we know for this. but, the more thing is this is not a time in tragedy to be redebating the second amendment. i mean, the right to keep and bare arm bear arms the righo speak and the right to worship or the right not to worship. my example is the israeli model. not all the teachers are armed but all the teachers -- the culture is different, i know that all the teachers have israeli
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defense forces every adult except for certain religious groups. spends time there in that time period they are trained. select teachers, quietly, not ostentatiously are armed and quietly trained. can't just carry a gun. you have to practice with it every week. steve: like the pilot program. >> correct. guess how many school shootings they have in israel? zero. ainsley: i'm at least all for less government. but when you see this shooting in las vegas. sandy hook where all the kids were killed. this shooting, the shooter was using an ar-15 in all three of those cases, correct? right? >> yes. it's a very powerful weapon. i know this weapon. it's the civilian version of an m-16. it's very, very powerful. you could stop a person with an ar-16 with a slingshot if you know how to use it all these tragedies end the same way. when the police arrive and shoot back or threaten to
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shoot back at the killer. this threatening to shoot back or shooting back should have -- sorry, i put my finger in your face, brian, should happen sooner rather than later. brian: i understand. the other thing is he passed the background check and got the gun legally. fine. now if we turn out and i'm not going to besmirch anyone on psychotropic drugs. say he has issues one relative says he was taking some drugs. let's say he has these postings that show a disturbing proclivity towards violence, should he pass a background check? >> the current background checks do not show what drugs you're taking. they show -- i'm familiar with the background checks there is a main database that the fbi keeps that the states, through their licensed gun dealers tap into. does not show the drugs you are taking. it shows -- it does not show social media. steve: that's a problem. >> it shows violence.
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it shows law enforcement. ever been involved in law enforcement. have you ever had a divorce? it shows just basic information about -- have you ever been arrested? have you ever been arrested for a violent crime? that's the type of information that's on it. ainsley: can this all be changed? >> yes, it can be changed. i'm sorry to say because i don't like more government bus that is a federal issue bawrts feds maintain this data base. ainsley: there is a reason it happens in this country and doesn't happen in other countries. what is that reason? >> because where there is more freedom there is more violence. i'm sorry to say that it's a price that we pay for living in an open society. steve: judge, it's not working. judge: it's not working right. but it would have worked had there been some teachers in that school. steve: armed. >> if this were jerusalem rather than florida. brian: he isn't stupid. evidence did think this out evidently. you would think he is not going to go for a hard target.
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that's sandy hook. they go for soft targets. no repellant. >> shooting fish in a barrel. last thing he wants is to be shot at. brian: judge, thanks so much. we will turn to another major story and that's politics on capitol hill. while we were on saysed wha obsn what was happening in florida there is a deal on daca. steve: a group of 22 senators finally coming to some sort of bipartisan agreement offering legal status and a path to citizenship for the dreamers along with some funding for the border wall. ainsley: griff jenkins is live in washington with what is coming next. >> good morning. they still have a proceed in the senate. could be four versions in the q. that gang of 22 is new. here's what's in this plan. first it grants 25 billion for the wall over the next 10 years, but only
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2.5 billion up front. and it has congressional oversight of the which means it could be pulled at some point. it provides legal status and a path to citizenship to dreamers. it prohibits dreamers sponsoring parents for citizenship. finally that diversity lottery, that remains in place for 55,000 every year. now, republican senators like lindsey graham who is part of this gang says our proposal would represent the most significant change to immigration law in the past 35 years. and his colleague jeff flake says he's pleased to be part of this group of republicans and democrats who are working together to make a law rather than appoint. now, democrat supporters are part of this group like senator tim kaine says we have reached a deal that gives us the best chance to protect the dreamers against deportation from the only country they know as home. but, guys, here's the deal. it's not likely president trump will go for this because it fails to meet all four pillars of that deal. especially on that chain migration and visa lottery as you just saw. and it's not as conservative as the bill being offered in the house.
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so i'm not sure exactly how far down the road this gets us. by the way, you may want to watch for whether or not this gang of 22 bill is the first or the fourth voted on. the sequencing of votes matters because you want your bill to go last. les all the other three before it should fail. guys? brian: i think they are going to go with grassley's first. even if he gets over 50. needs 60. in comes the other bill and then of course the house weighs in and the president will be the tuscaniny of this flourish or demise. steve: if they don't have his four points is he going to say nope, not going to do it. thank you very much. >> a tweet from the president could sink this any time today. brian: the president tweets? ainsley: thanks, griff. back to our big story this morning. democrats are now calling for gun control after that horrific high school shooting. should they really be pushing for other answers like why were the warning signs missed? lawrence jones on that next. ♪
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♪ ainsley: we are back with a fox news alert. brand new video this morning out of broward county, florida where the suspected gunman you see there behind the horrifying school shooting has been transported now to a jail. brian: you probably have not seen this video yet. 19-year-old former student led the sheriff deputies within the last hour. steve: rebecca vargas there when it happened. she is now live in fort lauderdale. rebecca. >> this morning at this hour nikolas cruz the suspect in this shooting is being booked as we speak into the jail behind me here in fort lauderdale. we will take to you that video once again. our cameras there this morning as he was leaving the s.o. headquarters.
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he spent the entire night there being questioned. we're talking 12 hours of extensive interrogation by the fbi. by broward county sheriff's office. detectives. they are working to find a motive in this tragic shooting. shooting. they are looking into what he was doing in the days and hours that led oup to this shooting. the sheriff telling us just yesterday that they are looking at his social media pages, at his facebook posts. at its instagram post. what they are saying so far is nothing short of disturbing. at this point he is being booked. we ever waiting to hear from authority if they found out anything during this 12 hour long interrogation. but for now i'm rebecca vargas for "fox & friends." steve: thank you for the live report. campus reform.org lawrence jones us right now. >> it's obviously sad what. i feel for the families.
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the part that ticks me off the most about this is the amount of evidence that was there. they could have stopped. this the warning signs were there. the fact that there was a notice sent out that he could have a backpack. the fact that he was kicked out of the school. ainsley: how could they have stopped it though? what could they have done differently? even though they they know he is crazy, problems disciplinary kid. disciplinary kid. what could be done. >> don't let the kid in the building. ainsley: there are 3,000 kids that go to this school. did you go to this school. slip in. >> he wasn't even a student at the school anymore. he was an adult. imagine just some college kid coming back in the school and after you know that a kid has planned and said to other students that he potentially may do something like this, you should have your eyes open for that. brian: psychologist wrote me last night and said here's the problem. it's the same way you look at two people fighting and you keep walking. or you look at a robbery and keep going.
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it's not my problem. kicked out of the school it's not my problem. he's not my friend. is he not my problem. i'm not friend with his parents. it's not my problem. next thing you know he is everybody's problem. >> here's the problem though, brian, we see this with normal terror attacks as well. we have fbi and other agents who say we were watching this person. we knew that this was happening. we knew something was forming, but they don't follow up. and i think part of the problem is that we have normalized this behavior. we're so used to it happening. okay, maybe he was being a little crazy. but you got to start taking this stuff seriously. how many attacks have to happen before we follow up on this stuff. steve: you look at all the disturbing images on his instagram account and social media and combine that with apparently one of the mayors down there said the shooter had been treated at a mental health facility up until about a year ago and then he just stopped going. they had been trying to keep an eye on people who were
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troubled, but that's one of the danger signs, too. the danger signs, too. it's like he was part of the mental health system, fell out, and then what happens? >> that's where it starts to clash with the whole gun debate. if you have a mental illness and i know there is a lot of people on the liberty perspective that believe that the government will take it too far when it comes to the mental health issue. but i think there was enough evidence of this guy having so many issues, that he shouldn't have been able to get a gun. he was troubled. we know he was going through something. he was under medical supervision. steve: his mom had died. >> that should have been enough to revoke his chl. brian: you are on medication. i'm going it take your gun. really? >> you got to be responsible. i own an ar-15 and i don't want mine taken away. steve: right. >> gun owners have to speak up against these crazies that decide that they're going to not follow the rules or our rights are going to be taken away. brian: see you on outnumbered today. you will be the guy in the
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middle. >> thanks. brian: social media playing a huge role. students inside that documenting it all. carley shimkus joins us with all of that and more. ♪ first, we head to vermont. and go to our coffee shop. and meet dave. hey. why is dark magic so spell-bindingly good, he asks? let me show you. let's go. so we climb. hike. see a bear. woah. reach the top. dave says dark magic is a bold blend of coffee with rich flavors of uganda, sumatra, colombia and other parts of south america. like these mountains, each amazing on their own. but together? magical. all, for a smoother tasting cup of coffee. green mountain coffee roasters packed with goodness.
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♪ [gunfire] oh my god. oh my god. [screams and gunfire] ainsley: petrified students hunkering down. some running for their lives. some videoing it. armed student on a rampage to kill them. steve: here are some of the images that lit up social media. carley, it is extraordinary to me to think that as soon as somebody start shooting these days, people actually pick up their phones and start taking pictures. >> everybody has a cell
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phone in their hands. some of these students were able to text their parents, others posted pictures and videos to, you know, social media, instagram, facebook, twitter, snapchat to give us really a horrifying look at the gravity of this situation. take a listen to this tweet from heather. she says: the swat evacuated us and like three people i know were shot in our building and there was blood everywhere. i can't breathe right now. but i am safe. now, another student posted footage that shows a swat team, a swat team actually entering their classroom and telling everybody to put their hands up. >> put your phones away. put your phones away. carley: actually in that footage, can you hear one of the officer saying put your phones away. put your phones away. we want your hands up. put the technology away for now. you guys are safe.
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another student live tweeted the whole thing. he said my school is being shot up and i am locked inside. i'm scared right now. he posted pictures that show students hiding on the ground underneath desks as well. the fbi has also set up a website for everybody affected telling them to post and upload pictures and videos that they have on their cell phones in an effort, you know, get more information about this situation. brian: they have to do their investigation. that's going to be the better evidence than anything else. they have got to try this guy, too. steve: one story where somebody was inside. they were texting a relative and said don't call me because we have got to be quiet. carley: you don't want the calls to go off at&t all. fbi and authority are going to be looking at the shooter's social media presence. we have the pictures that show he did have a very disturbing past. ainsley: valentine's day will never be the same for these kids that witnessed that. >> god bless that community. steve: all right. ainsley: thanks, carley. getting our first look at the shooter's mugshot and as
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♪ [gunfire] oh my god, oh my god. [screams and gunfire] >> another horrific day. a detestable day. i'm absolutely sick to my stomach to see children who go to school armed with backpacks and pencils lose their lives. brian: especially a school that size. how do you control it? we start with a fox news alert. a 19-year-old expelled from that school is behind bars this morning after a school shooting spree leaves 17 dead in south florida and more struggling for their lives in a nearby hospital. steve: the first victim has just been identified publicly as a football coach who witnesses say shield students and died a hero.
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he jumped in front, between the gunman and the kids and tried to save them. ainsley: todd piro is live in parkland, florida with the breaking update on this investigation. todd? >> steve, ainsley, brian, good morning. throughout the course of horrible situations like this that we see all too often, you get stories of heroism like this individual, this football coach who, like you said, jumped in front of a hail of bullets to save his students. his name aaron feis. he has an assistant football coach and security guard at the school. he was also a graduate of this school. and is the first fatality to be identified. meantime this morning the killer taken to county jail and overnight we learned brand new details about him. this after authorities swarming mobile home parks about 30 minutes away from here. a massive police presence recorded overnight. sources saying it is in
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connection with the shooting. shooting. a neighbor in the area said police told him it was some kind of explosive at one of the homes. as for yesterday's nightmare, the pictures from inside the school absolutely terrifying. students trying to find cover under desks, shaking and crying. not knowing what's about to happen. the gunman mercilessly killing at least 17 innocent victims. setting off fire alarms and then shooting those fleeing with an ar-15. reports of him wearing a gas mask and having smoke bombs on him during this carnage. then trying to sneak out in the fleeing crowd before being arrested in a nearby neighborhood. >> i'm still scared. like i just have image -- like the sound of the gunshots right in my head. i hear it like constantly. it was the most scariest
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experience of my life. >> and with each passing hour, a picture of school for disciplinary reasons. his adoptive mother died one student said it was for fighting with his ex-girlfriend's new boyfriend and that cruz had been abusive to the girl. on social media cruz is seen with pictures of guns and knives, bragging about shooting animals. the broward county sheriff calling the post very disturbing. and many people described him as, quote, obsessed with guns. a former neighbor said police were called to his home multiple times and he was seen shooting at a neighbor's chickens, words like sketchy, weird, off, strange, troubled, and super stressed out all the time. use offed by multiple students to describe the killer. one student even told local media and this is particularly chilling that, quote: everyone predicted the shooting with kids joking before yesterday that one day he would shoot up the school. >> he was like shy, but he wouldn't talk a lot. >> what was your take on it. >> i mean, he was like that weird kid at school that you see walk around in school. >> describe him as a loner?
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>> yeah, like a loner. >> right now the fbi is asking anybody from inside or outside the school to please share with them any photos, any videos so that they can piece them together as part of their investigation. all as we try to answer this main question that we have been asking all morning long, we're going to continue to ask, why if we knew so much about this killer why wasn't this stopped? brian: thanks, todd. some of the things that todd outlined and we have been discussing for the last hour and have you been listening to for the last 18 hours. okay. he is trouble. don't bring a backpack to school. he gets kicked out. he tells another classmate when he got to that school last year, he sat next to him during one of the shop classes reportedly if this telling the truth i was kicked out of two schools prior to that. steve: the shooter. brian: if you're 18, turning 19, what's the
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responsibility of law enforcement once the education system says you're too scary or for whatever gown after he was taken to the hospital after he was carted off. apparently after the come in? shooting he tried to blend in with the kids and got through the police and they found him through surveillance video about an hour later. but, regarding not being allowed on campus, that's one thing if he had a backpack. the other thing is he had an ar rifle. and he apparently bought it legally. at this house he is staying at in parkland, florida, apparently, the he is staying with said you can have the gun. you are going to lock it up. but he had a key. as todd said there were other warning signs, the social media. plus the fact that one of the mayors said on television that apparently they had been watching this guy over a year ago for mental health problems. he was at a mental health clinic being treated. and, yet, he fell through the crosswalks.
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apparently he just stopped going. ainsley: yeah there were a lot of warning signs. his adoptive mother died in november. i don't know what the state of her health was. steve: she was sick for a while. ainsley: the question is as a mother, if my child is showing these signs and not going to their treatment facility, i'm going to probably look into that and push them to do that. i don't know the details of what was going on in his personal life. but other students said he liked to kill animals, small little animals such as frogs. he would post these disturbing gruesome photos on his instagram page. and we have always heard that's where it starts. if you can do something like this or if you can mistreat an animal and kill an animal, that usually leads to something bad down the road. yeah, there were warning signs. ed davis said the warning signs slipped through the cracks. he is the former boston police chief. listen. >> this man was telegraphing his intent to do this. some of the students who have been interviewed on camera say that he actually threatened to shoot up the
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school. it's a crime. it should be recognized as the that and reported. and then people can take the right action to try to eliminate this threat. you need to take these things seriously. and, unfortunately, this one fell through the cracks. brian: you just wonder who else is out there. and then you got -- should you violate somebody's privacy? i have seen this kid over in the trailer park. he has a lot of guns and he has a gas mask and he seems to have some body armor. i wonder if i should call the cops or mind my own business? florida attorney general pam bondi says don't mind your own business. she was on the channel yesterday. >> they are posting it on social media, they have followers. so, kids who are out there, parents, you got to monitor this stuff. and if you see it, take everything seriously. take every threat seriously. and report it to law enforcement. we would rather you do that and be wrong 99% of the time than to have anything happen
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in this world. and these teens now are vocal on social media. they don't just pop up from anywhere. there are warning signs. brian: remember adam loan adam , sandy hook guy. he killed 20. this guy killed 17. video games actually desensitizing people. steve: i don't know about video games. he was on social media posted disturbing images. what about the social media company? you know, i understand. ainsley: is there responsibility? steve: you can pretty much post anything you want to on there, if something disturbing keeps popping up on somebody's feed, do something about it this guy as you were talking about posting things with guns and killing squirrels and lizards and stuff like that. ainsley: he doesn't value life. clearly, he doesn't value the lives of animals but the lives of human beings. i talked to my dad yesterday he said ainsley, we worked
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so hard to raise our kids. these are teenagers. you have almost gotten them into college. and 17 families will never be the same. they worked so halder to get their kids to this level to be good kids. and this one nut job, this one evil guy comes in and ruins it for all these families. brian: listen to these numbers. beginning with columbine 19 years ago believe it or not, more than 150,000 students, not counting these students, 3,000 plus attending 170 primary and secondary schools have experienced a shooting on campus. and now these kids are reliving what those kids already lived through. watch. >> he shot through my door and my class kids got hurt. i saw blood everywhere. >> i heard the gunshots, i heard at least four like boom, boom, boom, boom. >> people were running and pushing. >> hid in the tennis courts and then went to the locker room. we were in there two and a half to three hours. >> there were dead bodies everywhere. >> we thought it was a fire drill but we heard the shots before hand and i'm guessing
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that he wanted everybody to come out. >> one of my friends died and i -- it hasn't hit me yet. >> in the hallway saw a big pile of blood kind of smeared as if they were dragged away. >> i was praying to god thanking that he could save us all and we could make it out live. steve: a day they will never forget. keep in mind 2:40 yesterday afternoon when somebody on the staff heard what they believed was gunfire. and so they pulled the alarm. and they turned a code red lockdown. apparently simultaneously, this guy, the shooter, may have pulled the fire alarm, which meant even though you are locked down, have you got to get out of the building because there could be a fire. so what happened? all those kids from all those classrooms, the doors flew open and there he was with a gun. ainsley: he knew there would be chaos and be able to disguise himself.
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there were heroes that we talked this morning about coach aaron feis. we got word this morning did he die in the hospital. he was jumping in front of students according to some of the students that were there and witnessed. there was his picture. employed as a security guard. did graduate from that high school in 1999 and then became the head coach of the jv football team as well. brian: was working security there. and i guess he was not able to carry a gun to shoot back. here's what the president said, tweeted this out. my prayers and condolences to the families of the victims of this terrible florida shooting. by the way the president has already called the sheriff and senator and governor rick scott. no child, teacher e anyone else should ever feel unsafe in an american school. and especially there. i mean, the numbers are staggering to see that how safe this community was considered to be. statistically, they are safer than 85% of the cities in the entire country. the safest city compares safety with the cities of 25,000 or more. steve: well, something went haywire yesterday. as we start to put the pieces together and look at the anguish of the faces.
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ainsley: look at that ashes on her forehead. steve: ash wednesday. warning signers seem to have been missed. look at the social media profile of this guy. that's a red flag. hear these stories about how apparently there was a mental health issue. apparently he had been treated. but just stopped going. who knew about it? well, his family did, but his mom died three months ago, and she was out of the picture. and he was on his own. people said he was depressed. but if your mom just died you would be depressed, too. ainsley: you wouldn't do this. steve: you absolutely would not. not a normal person. we. brian: meanwhile, straight ahead, expelled students wearing gas mask and carrying ar-15 the man we were just talking about on a rampage killed 17 in the school. our next guest takes us inside the mind of a killer. steve: and as their state is stunned with grief florida governor rick scott and florida senator marco rubio will both appear on this program on this thursday morning. ♪ ♪ ♪
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♪ steve: fox news alert. 90 seconds ago president trump tweeted this on the florida high school shooting. so many signs that the
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florida shooter was mentally disturbed. even expelled for school for bad and erratic behavior. neighbors and classmates knew he was a big problem. must always report such instances to authorities, again and again. the president tweets. brian: the president brought that up before when it came to the san bernardino shooter. everybody in the neighborhood knew there was a problem but nobody reported it. here to weigh in with the look inside the mind of a teenage killer psychotherapist himself works in the school system tom kersting. tom, you see this, we are looking on the outside. how could someone have done this yeah they kicked him out. that's not good enough is it. >> the problem is the ubiquity of the situation. take a kid on social media constantly. exposed to violence. a lot of the students that are at that high school said that they sort of suspected that he would do something like this. so, the warning signs were there. and i think what we need to do is really empower our students if they see something, you hear the expression if you hear something, say something. if they hear something on social media or see something, they have to come to somebody at the school front line and we'll handle
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it. ainsley: he was in therapy and stopped going a year ago. what should that therapist have done differently if anything and if you had patients that have acted like this or have seen signs that they might do something like this, what do you do. >> if a situation like, this you would like to think if a therapist knew about this would report it to authorities. any time there is a homicidal or suicidal ideation. i have never had anybody homicidal. situations at the school certain posts and such that would suggest violence. we then meet with the kids. sometimes we will bring in the police and they will just investigate to make sure that this kid is not a danger to himself and others. steve: you know, he looks just like the other kids because he is about their age. but he wasn't a student there. >> yeah. steve: i know your school where you are the therapist at, you know, there are a lot of doors. and there are a lot of kids going in. hard to stop somebody who looks just like everybody else. have you ever heard an instance where somebody was banned from the campus
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with -- if they came on board with a backpack? >> that's the scary part. because i could tell i where i work, all right. we have like the security measures that we have are through the roof. you can't get in that door. through the roof. you can't get in that door. you can't get in that door. there is cameras. thersome situations are not avoidable. >> this guy could sneak under the guise of looking like another student. 1300 students. who is going to notice this? a security guard? brian: time which i have to pull money out of school supplies out of my pocket. there is not a lot of surplus, i get it a system here where you can't get in i don't care if you are the most recognizable person on camera or a p.a., you cannot get in without a pass. without your security. >> here's the issue. brian: without your i.d. you guys need that. >> absolutely. so where we have it at the schools where i work. if you are a former student and you don't have an appointment, they are not letting you in. you come in. there is a camera. they scan you in. letting you in. you come in. there is a camera. this occurred in the
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afternoon. brian: 15 manipulates before closing. >> the more frightening element is if this were before early in the morning. say school starts at 7:30. you don't check every student check into the building at 7:30 in the morning. from a security perspective. brian: do you have armed guards. >> no. we don't have armed guards. we have a great security supervisor. brian: what are they going to do wrestle? >> i know, it's the thing. brian: ridiculous. >> prevention, prevention, prevention. you can't prevent it all. ainsley: tom, thank you for being with us. >> appreciate it. ainsley: overnight the fbi scouring a mobile home. a massive crime scene need bneeding to be combed through. are a director of counter terrorism joins us next with where this case goes from here. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts
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ainsley: we are back with a fox news alert. new video this morning out of broward county, florida where the suspected gunman how see right there behind a horrifying school shooting is now behind bars in jail. brian: 19-year-old former student now facing 17 counts of premeditated murder. steve: rebecca vargas from our affiliate in south florida is live at the jail in downtown fort lauderdale with the latest. rebecca? >> yeah. at this hour, he has officially been booked. that suspect in this shooting. 19-year-old nikolas cruz. our cameras here as he arrived at the jail just about two hours ago. you can see him there in that video arriving still wearing that hospital gown that he had been wearing all night long. again, he was taken to the hospital to be checked out yesterday for about 45 minutes. then he was brought to broward county sheriff's office headquarters to be questioned. he has been there all night
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long. we're talking 12 hours of interrogation by both the fbi and homicide detective. they are both working together these agencies investigating this terrible tragedy. and then this morning he was brought here to the jail in fort lauderdale and has been booked. they are looking at any possible motive he may have had for this shooting. they are also looking at what he was doing in the days and the hours leading up to this shooting. also looked at his social media. his instagram. his facebook posts. the sheriff telling us they are disturbing these posts. so now we are waiting to hear from authorities on what they may have learned in this 12 hour long extensive interrogation process. but the good thing here is he is behind bars. and he is accused of 17 counts of premeditated murder. for now we are live outside of the broward county jail in fort lauderdale, i'm rebecca vargas for "fox & friends." steve: all right, rebecca, thank you very much. overnight the fbi frantically searching for
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answers at a florida home tied to the teen gunman accused of killing 17 people at his former high school. ainsley: here to weigh in on this and where the investigation goes from here is former deputy assistant director of the fbi counter terrorism division terry everyoney. thank you for being with us. what happens next? >> you're welcome, ainsley, thank you. in the strength of providing area of local law enforcement who is obviously in charge of this case. but, several things are going on. first of all, there is extensive crime scene, obviously that have to be done. the fbi's evidence response teams will deal with this. doing these interviews there are a different kind of interviews one subject interview carefully coordinated and the fbi provided behavioral support and any kind of support it could provide before the interview actually occurred as well as being participant in the interview there are literally hundreds and hundreds of interviews to do out in the field. those kind of things in the bureau can bring a lot of manpower into and get it done and track and follow leads and make sure that those are all done and then
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the results are reported. so all of that kind of service is brought in so that we get a quick picture of what happened here. and also a kind of a real rapid determination as to whether or not there might have been anybody else involved. usually in these things they are not. have you got to know and this is how do you that. steve: sure. sometimes, terry, all this fbi and the investigators can do is look at the social media, look at the computer. look at cell phone records. stuff like that because the gunman is dead. but in this case he is alive and he certainly could tell them why he did it. the big question is whether or not is he going to be cooperative. >> well, he could and he may very well. it's not one of those cases where there is a mystery as to who did what. so, we'll just have to watch and wait. but many times people who do things like, this these terrible crimes, are interested in talking about them because, remember, support of the whole tone of the whole environment of these kind of peach is that they want to have some sort
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of publicity in life. they want to matter in a big way. and that's why they get into this societal level violence. so, one of the ways of doing that is to sit down and talk about it afterwards. so, hopefully he will. for not only easing the prosecuting burden but we need to know as much as possible about what's in these people's minds so that we at least learn as much as we can for the next incident that would l. inevitably occur. brian: is this the foundation for insanity defense? defense? if he has psychological problems, history of violence, on some type of mood altering drug, is this something that leads continue to sanity and gets him off for not getting the death penalty? >> well, brian, all those things could possibly come into play. but insanity is harder defense than it looks like. most of the time as long as can you show somebody knows right from wrong, even if they have a mental illness they're going to be found guilty and have to suffer
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the consequences. steve: that's right. also the fbi is asking to the thousands of kids who were in that school yesterday if you have got any images, upload them to the fbi. terry, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. steve: 7:30 in new york city. florida governor rick scott has been in south florida trying to comfort the grieving families. he's going to join us live with the very latest on the investigation. little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats differently. for psoriasis, 75% clearer skin is achievable with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and for psoriatic arthritis, otezla is proven to reduce joint swelling, tenderness, and pain. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting.
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♪ steve: well, this is a fox news alert. it was 2:40 yesterday afternoon at majory douglas parkland school in florida. gunman came in and started shooting by the time it was over 17 children and adults were dead. ainsley: yeah, florida's governor rick scott i understand was in tallahassee and went down to south florida where this shooting took place and he joins us now this morning. governor, we are so sorry what's happened in your
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state. i know you spent time in the hospital last night with some of the family members. can you share some of the stories? >> sure. i mean, as you imagine, they're happy that they, in this case that their children are alive. they are worried about them. one of them was still going through surgery. they are like me, they are mad. how can this be going on in our society. we know that something has to change here. we cannot continue to have this violence. we have got to keep our students safe. but, and at least at the hospital last night everybody was optimistic that their children children were going to be alive. my prayers are with, you know, i can't imagine family member losing a loved one. i have daughters. i have grandchildren. i can't imagine. and i imagine parents this morning are saying to themselves, you know, should my child go to school today? you know, are they going to be safe? and we're going to figure this out. we have got to figure out how to keep our kids safe in this state. brian: we had a number of
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17. 17 have lost their lives. we just found out about the football coach who did something -- you would expect something with the navy seal training to do and that's jump in the way of bullets to save students. but can you give us an idea of how many are in area hospitals and how many are in a life-threatening situation? >> well, you know, the sheriff's office will be putting out more of that information. last night at the hospital irving i spoke to was optimistic. i spoke to the physicians and nurses. they were optimistic about the individuals at the hospital that they are going to be fine i was at north broward general hospital last night talking to different families. i hope that everybody that's in the hospital survives. but, i mean, you know, we're going to do everything we can i'm going to stay here as long as it takes. make sure we have all the resources that we need.
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we are gonna make sure that we -- we in this state figure out how to stop violence at our schools. steve: that's the big key. i know you said a moment ago that the people you talked to yesterday are mad. you know, they want answers because, governor, you know, it looks as if there were a lot of warning signs that were missed. not only did he have a disturbing social media feed with creepy pictures on it. and some really inappropriate passages that he had typed out, but also apparently for a while, he was treated at a mental health facility and then stopped going. yeah, we, all of us have to figure out and talk about when we see something like this happening, you know, there's going to be a thorough investigation. we will know what happened in this case. hopefully we can take whatever happened here. we can't save the lives that we lost here, but we do everything we can to make sure this doesn't happen again. i mean, you just can't imagine how many -- how a
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person can senselessly go shoot and kill another human being. probably somebody that they knew. how can anybody do something like this? i'm furious this could happen anywhere. brian: well, on top of that. a lot of people are wondering what the responsibility is if a public school kicks you out for disciplinary reasons. like you can't carry a backpack. whose responsibility is this kid next? should law enforcement be called by the school system look out for this guy? we're kicking him out because of violent reasons if that be the case? >> we're going to find out exactly what happened here. i have spoken to the superintendent. i've been talking to the sheriff. you know, i spoke with president trump yesterday and kirstjen nielsen from homeland security. spoken with the fbi. happened here. and what we're going to do is we're going to have a real conversation about how we are going to stop it. ainsley: yeah. i mean, he was 19 years old. it's not like he goes to child protective services if
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he loses his parents or orphanage. he's considered an adult at that point. are there any ideas of how people have thrown your way. i heard you say several times you are going to look at different things to make sure this doesn't happen again. any suggestions have you heard so far? >> not today. i mean, not from last night to this morning. but i can tell you we are going to figure this out. we are going to keep our kids safe. i want parents to wake up every day and say my child can going to go to a safe school. steve: i understand the attorney general pam bondi said last night that apparently the state of florida was going to pay for the funerals. is that accurate? >> i know it's what the attorney general has been working on. she also has victim's advocates. she did the same thing after the pulse attack. she brought down victim advocates. they were very, very helpful. i know the attorney general probably will be putting out some additional information about the funerals. brian: governor, i mean you are at your best and sadly have too much practice at it
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times of crisis whether a natural disaster or shooting. right now, if you were to change something it would be maybe empowering counselors and principals to pick out the bad boy or girl in that school that is a threat? are you thinking about a mandate to all public schools in florida immediately to reevaluate these discipline issues? >> you know, brian, we are going to find out exactly what precautions people took and then we're going to find out what we can do to make sure this doesn't happen again. superintendent runs -- i have been able to work with the past few years. we will figure figure this out. we have school system that wants to do the right thing. and so we'll figure this out. steve: all right. governor rick scott down in broward county, florida, thank you very much. ainsley: thank you, governor. hand it over to jillian who has headlines for us. jillian: let's go ahead and get you caught up on other news this morning.
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president trump specifically denounces domestic abuse my amid questions of the white house's handling of allegations against former aide rob porter. >> i'm totally opposed to domestic violence of any kind. everyone knows that. and it almost wouldn't have to be said. so now you hear it but you all know it. jillian: porter served as staff secretary until last week when abuse allegations from two exwives surfaced. the white house has faced questions about when they first learned of those allegations. mitt romney delaying his utah senate announcement today in the wake of yesterday's shooting in florida. the 2008 republican nominee for president tweeting this, quote as a father and grandfather, my heartaches for the victim of today's tragic events. my prayers go out to all of the families and looed ones affected by this senseless act of violence. is he expected to run for the seat being vacated by the retired orrin hatch. the senate could vote on bipartisan immigration deal. the measure would set aside
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$25 billion for president trump's border wall and offer a path to citizenship over the next decade for 1.8 million dreamers. no changes will be made to the diversity visa lottery program, excuse me. texas senator ted cruz joins us live at 8:30 eastern to tell us what's at stake. those your headlines. sorry, i'm fighting a little cold. ainsley: has, did or is. steve: thank you, jillian. brian: we move our way through. his state is mourning the deadliest school shooting in recent modern history. senator marco rubio will join us live to tell us what he sees as he returns. you'll get a free checked bag. two united club passes.
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brian: joining us now with an update from his point of view and a guy who knows that state as well as anyone. g.o.p. senator from florida marco rubio. senator, i know you have been apprized of the situation as it's unfolding. very few people who have been to broward county and read the statistics would ever think something like this could happen there. what can you tell us? >> well, listen, when -- and one individual decides in a premeditated and orchestrated way that they are going to carry something like this out, it can happen anywhere. and this particular case, and i think in the days to come, we will learn more about it. we have a deeply disturbed person, someone you look at the social media accounts. you look at some of the other things that law enforcement has not yet made public. this was someone who kind of had a, you know, a bunch of events come together. his father died a few years ago. his adoptive mother died late last year. he was living with another family. but this is someone that people knew was a danger. someone that in the school there was this running joke. it's not a joke anymore,
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obviously. running joke that he would come back one day and hurt a lot of people. all these things happen and, yet, somehow this individual escaped detection and able to acquire this weapon and able to go in and kill 17 people and jury more. one person in the wrong circumstances and you get in this situation. steve: senator rubio we hear some times if you hear something, say something. apparently a lot of people said things. he was reported to the school authorities, apparently. there are reports online that maybe law enforcement was involved. complaints about things he had done. none of those in and of themselves would have arisen to this level. you have to look in totalit totality. steve: senator. >> we're going to learn more about this. steve: absolutely. what about the threatening
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nature of the social media. >> that's my point. you have to look at the totality. not justth guy you are getting calls about doing weird things. it's a guy that is putting all these things up on social media. it's a guy that has had problems in threatening people at school. when you put the full picture together, you start to say this is a person who could be a very serious problem. and then what can you do about it? how can you get ahead of it? how can you jump on that and prevent it from happening. that's the problem here. we look at these things in isolated way but not in their totality. ainsley: senator, i know you are from the miami area, southlansouth florida. i know this happened in the fort lauderdale area. did you know anyone that went to that high school? do your kids know anyone that went there? do you have any personal stories? >> i don't know anyone personally now. i know the area quite well. miami and fort lauderdale is kind of the same metropolitan area. we are there for all sorts of events youth sports and things that have to do with my job. parkland is one the safest communities in america. it's a place that people move to to get away from. this i say you are not going
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to get likely to get mugged there or car jacked there. your home is not likely to get broken into there. it's a very safe community. this is an isolated instance but a very tragic and catastrophic one where have you one individual with a perfect storm of circumstances and then goes into a school and kills 17 people and juries many more. so i know the area well. brian: senator, i know it's going to be hard. today is going to be one of the most critical times issue you are so passionate about. put a lot of your integrity into. that sim congratulation reform. we understand a series of votes today in the senate. let alone what they are doing in the house to legalize the 1.8 million. giving them a path. not their parents, perhaps, and then in the exchange for some type of border security and up for a debate, of course, is everything including the lottery system and chain migration. what are the plans that have you most optimistic? >> well, to be frank, i'm not sure any of the four plans have the votes to pass today. it's a tough issue.
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but there is four out there. i know for certain that i support the president's plan and all four of those pillars are things i have voted for and supported in the past. and there is a second bipartisan plan by senator rounds and collins. i was involved in a lot of the meetings to help craft it. i haven't had a chance -- i will this morning -- to go and read the language in detail and make a final decision. it has a lot of things in there i likes a well and probably couple things i would do different. i'm open to supporting it. i made that decision when it was sent out all of this happened i haven't had a chance to focus on it i'm going to focus on it this morning because the vote is today. brian: can i give you the overview as i understand it two of the pillars are in there. 1.8 pathway to legalization, their parents don't get. in they don't get legal status. on turn you get 25 billion for the border but you get 2.8 at a time but you need 60 votes to take that money back. so the money is virtually guaranteed over the course of 10 years. can you handle two pillars?
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>> yeah. look, i will handle anything that makes things better. i have often said two pillars are likely even though i support all four. by the way these pillars are inner related. i'm not sure it's 1.8. because the cut off date for people eligible under the rounds collins plan actually doesn't start until december of 2012. not 2007. that's an additional number of people. what that rounds up, to i'm not sure. it's even more people than the president's plan. brian: wow. >> more people than daca. i don't know what that number is that's how i read it. ainsley: no one has been able to tell us why it's 1.8. daca recipients 700,000. >> 1.8 is because under the president's plan not only do the people under daca that signed up for it get it, but also the people who could have signed up for daca were eligible for daca but didn't sign up for it. ainsley: got it? >> were also eligible to get it those two groups are already covered in the collins rounds plan but then it adds an additional group of people not from the cut off date for daca, cut off date for president's plan is
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june of 2007. the cutoff plan for collins rounds plan is 2000 12. another five years of people that become eligible. i don't know how many that adds up to. it will be more than 1.8. steve: busy day there in the senate. we thank you for joining us. >> thank you. ainsley: we still don't know why the school shooter did it but the debate over gun control is heating up. tammy bruce takes a closer look. ♪ ♪
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♪ brian: state of florida reigle at this hour after 17 people, yep, 17 people were killed at a high school making one of the deadliest school shootings in recent history trailing behind
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sandy hook. ainsley: almost immediately after lawmakers turned their focus to gun control but our next guest warns jumping to conclusions. steve: why should we do that tammy bruce. >> look, clearly we all want if we can immediate solution. it's obviously not going to be the fact here. we see this. we have the conversation after so many horrible instances. but here's the fact of the matter. when we talk about the firearm, and then everybody thinks well we do this, this never ends. it's because we never then get to the real dynamic and the core issue which is the human condition. i love that you guys had a psychiatrist on earlier. but there are facts of the matter here on the ground. as an example. 70%, 70% of americans are on at least one prescription drug. the most prescribed drugs, of course, are antidepressants and opioids. they are psychotropics. they affect the mind. we know, of course, how adults respond to these drugs are different than how young people do. so we do see a change in the
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last decade. let's say since columbine. and the nature also that's changed is the availability of extraordinarily violent imagery since september 11th with what's going on, of course, and what was happening with al qaeda and isis. this is the kind of stuff now that is available to especially young people that had never been available before. brian: what about virtual reality? those glasses that put new a battle. put you at war? >> this is what the issue becomes is that we're not addressing how culture has changed, what's available to young people, the fact that we're using psychotropics on virtually all americans and eventually at some point all americans. and the discussions of firearms while, of course, it's important to many people it's immediate reaction for many people. it's also a political one. that is that the goal that they have in that regard. ainsley: psychiatrist during the break we continue to ask him questions because we are fascinated by it what's going on in this guy's mind. he said kids this day and age are exposed to more
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violence. he says the brain normalizes it. >> right. ainsley: back in world war i he said the soldiers would learn with a target. then in world war ii learn with a sill low yet o silhouettn being. they normalize it we saw the violence after the super bowl. these are fans that won and they are vandalizing philadelphia because it's normal to do this now. >> not just normalized within the general framework but the unusual dynamic of what's happening with the war on terror and the imagery of that kind of real violence. it happens not even on video games. so the point has to be that if you ban guns, we see how that doesn't work like in d.c. and chicago. but at the same time, then they don't want to then and they can't discuss the other issues that are underlying. we have got to get past that to the real core of the human condition. brian: chelsea handler pointed out we have to elect candidates not funded by the nra. >> we all want solutions and
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we have all got to come together with them. steve: all right. tammy. brian: thank you so much. steve: breaking news coverage continues at the top of the hour. we have brand new information on the shooter live from florida. ♪ ♪ . . . .
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gunfire. >> oh, my god. [bleep] [gunfire] [screaming] >> no parent should have to send their kids to school, have them not return. ainsley: that fear is now a reality in south florida. the 19-year-old on the right side of your screen expelled student, he is now behind bars this morning after a school shooting spree leaves 17 people dead. brian: first victim identified as a football coach who witnesses say shielded students and died a hero. steve: todd piro live in park
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land, florida, with breaking update on the investigation. what can you tell us. reporter: good morning to you. 17 counts of premeditated murder those are charges we learned were brought against nicolas cruz, following a long night of interrogation. we learned cruz is scheduled to appear in court 12:30 today. like you said, fox news confirmed that the heroic football coach reportedly jumped in front of bullets to save lives of his students has died. aaron feis, assistant coach and security guard at the school is first to be identified. the killer taken to county jail as we continue to learn new details about him. authorities swarm ad mobile home park 30 minutes away from here. authorities say it is in connection in the shooting. a neighbor in the area told him it was some kind of explosive at one of the homes. as for yesterday's nightmare, pictures from inside the school
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absolutely terrifying. shaken and crying, students trying to fine cover. the gunman setting off fire alarms, shooting those fleeing with ar-15. reports wearing gas mask and smoke bombs on him during the bloodbath. trying to sneak out in the escaping crowd before being arrested in a nearby neighborhood. >> i'm still scared. i just, i just have image, like the sound of the gunshots, i just hear constantly. it was the most scary experience of my life. reporter: with each passing hour a picture of 19-year-old nicolas cruz becomes clearer. his adoptive mother died this past november. he was living with a friend's family. he was expelled from school for disciplinary reasons. one student said fighting with his ex-girlfriend's new boyfriend. that cruz had been abusive to the girl. on social media cruz is seen with pictures of guns and knives, bragging about shooting animals.
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the broward county sheriff described the post as very disturbing. people described him as obsessed with guns. words like sketchy, weird, off, strained, troubled, stressed out multiple times, to describe the killer. one student told local media everyone predicted the shooting with kids joking before yesterday that one day he would shoot up the school. >> he was shy. wouldn't talk a lot. >> what was your take on it? >> i mean he was that weird kid you see walking around in school. >> describe him a loaner? >> like a loaner. reporter: fbi is asking anyone with pictures or video from inside or outside the school get it to them i will immediately. so they can piece it together for the investigation. a number of facilities opened up around broward county so parents and students could get grief counseling they definitely need in the largest mass shooting at
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a school since newtown. steve: todd, thank you very much. there are real cold blooded details coming out. he went into the school, started shooting. pulled the fire alarm. according to bill nelsons we confirmed this, he had a gas mask on and also had smoke bombs as well. when he pulls the fire alarm, everybody locked down, got to go out in the hall. ainsley: there were 17 people killed. before the show started we were getting word only 12 were identified. five were not identified. how can that happen? parents were going from hospital to hospital if they hadn't heard from children. in high school, you don't have i.d. you might have driver's license. wouldn't take it to school. aerial view of kids coming out t of the classroom dropping backpacks in a pile. they were going to hospital
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without any i.d. some were in surgery not identified. imagine that as a parent not knowing where your child is. brian: as law enforcement you don't know. this is 19-year-old that blends in. you don't know if he has accomplices. likely to happen in broward county and parkland, florida, the city saw only 19 violent crimes per year. that is crime rate of .6% of a thousand residents. out of all the cities in the country, it is safer than just about all of them. so this is example of one of the safest cities in the country. governor rick scott was just with us. as happy as he is with the crime rate in broward, the fact it happened there, makes him feel like something has to change. >> they're like me. you can't imagine how many, how
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a a person can senselessly shoot another human being? i want to figure this out. i want kids to feel stave. i want parents to wake up every day and say my child will to to a safe school. brian: one thing coming up. parlay this, that will be see curfews debate. allow the security guards, let alone teachers to have guns. most are licensed. they have to leave their guns at home to come to work which is insane. now they have the security people, no matter how skilled have to use hand-to-hand combat with a guy with an ar 15. you're going to lose that. steve: governor was right, speaking to family members, everybody is angry because they want answers. this guy had very disturbing
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social media profile that should have set off red flags. apparently as well he had been in treatment in in a mental health clinic about a year ago. he just stopped going which senator marco rubio told us half an hour ago. some dots needed to be connected. we need to do a better job connecting them going forward. >> you have to look at the totality. not just guy you're getting calls about doing weird things. it is a guy putting things up on social media. a guy with problems threatening people in school. when you put the full picture together, you start to see this is person that could be be serious problem. what can you do about it, how can you get ahead of it, how do you prevent it from happening? we look the at things in isolated way, not at their totality. ainsley: if you look at the kid's instagram since been taken down, thank good tess, we decided not to share the photos, they're so graphic. he is holding up three nerves,
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mother f-ing knives. pistole fun is blank. his language in and itself is terrible. that is how kids talk in this day and age but they don't post picture like this. one kid said he posted animals that he killed gruesomely and killing lizards and frogs, posting pictures. back in the day if a kid can do that to an animal that doesn't usually, the kid normally will do something else major oy violently down the road. steve: a lot of people probably knew that his social media feed was disturbing like that. so you tell somebody. they will go, well it is just knives. it is just words. attorney general pam bondi of florida says, look, threats are threats. tell somebody. >> when they're posting it on social media they have followers. so kids who are out there, parents, you've got to monitor this stuff. if you see it, take everything
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seriously. take every threat seriously and report it to law enforcement. we would rather you do that and be wrong 99% of the wrong than to have anything happen in this world. these teens now are vocal on social media. they don't just pop up from anywhere. there are warning signs. brian: these ar-15s in particular are becoming more and more common. a lot of them used for sports shooting, for hunting, obviously for self-defense. they're labeled essentially a civilian version of the m-16. ainsley: what needs to change? maybe if you have these crazy images on instagram, if there are warning signs, expelled from school, not allowed to take a backpack to school, if you're 19 years old should you be able to have one of these high-powered rifles? steve: he was able to buy it legally. unclear, apparently you don't have to disclose your mental health status. we don't know the nature of the
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treatment at the facility. nonetheless the president of the united states has been taken it all in and briefed by law enforcement and he tweeted this morning, so many signs that the florida shooter was mentally disturbed, expelled from school forker rattic and bad behavior. neighbors and classmates knew he was a big problem. must always report such instances to authorities again and again. he is echoing pam bondi. brian: i have a hunch, we've seen this he have about, we'll find out what role law enforcement played and how many knew this guy's potential danger. there is some reports that not only students gossip bit in school, maybe authorities did know about it. steve: the police had been to his house a number of times apparently through the years. keep in mind he had a terrible family dynamic. he was adopted at birth after his birth mother died. the couple that adopted him considerably older. the father died, when he was very young. then his mother, the woman who
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raised him, just died 3 1/2 months ago. people said, well, he was depressed. then again his mom just died. ainsley: but a lot of people have had parents deceased and they're depressed but they will not go do this. just not sure, if you're 19 years old, expelled from a public school that big, we were talking about it earlier in the show, some of my friend gone to private schools, they will expel you for one demerit, but in a public school like this, it's a large school. i went to a school like this, in order to get expelled from a school like this, you have done a lot of things wrong. you have a long rap sheet of disciplinary campus. steve: they said he could come back on campus, don't come with a backpack. don't ever come. he returned yesterday. brian: he knew a lot of kids in the school. there was reports he felt as
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though he was bullied, you wonder if he was targeting people specifically. meanwhile, some students don't care. they were traumatized by it. and they had come out and they had spoken earlier about what it was like, not only, knowing that they could be shot at any iraq or afghanistan. sounds like a war zone. steve: we opened with the hour with 10 seconds of snap chat which is so scary and so loud. ainsley: so loud. steve: you look at it, say if i was in the room where i would go? no place to run. terrible. 12 minutes after 8:00. we will continue our coverage. i think we've got a special guest coming up. brian: senator bill nelson is coming up next. we have not phone to him in a while. he has the military background and astronaut background. he knows this area quite well. senator bill nelson right after this. spell-bindingly good, he asks? let me show you. let's go. so we climb. hike. see a bear. woah. reach the top.
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brian: this morning investigators frantically investigators frantically searching for answers as florida reels from one of the worst school shooting attacks in recent history. steve: joining us with an update, democratic florida senator bill nelson. good morning to you. you had gotten a briefing from the fbi early yesterday. you were able to tell america some of the details. what's the latest? >> fact that this fellow apparently was really premeditated. he had a gas mask. he had smoke bombs, and he hit
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the fire alarm so that kids would start coming out, and into the hallway. brian: how would you gauge the response time from law enforcement, from when they were alerted, and when they acted, what they did? we did hear he was hurt and brought to the hospital. how did he get hurt? did we hit him at all? >> i don't know the answer to that but i do know that law enforcement was there very quickly. ainsley: senator, i know you were born in miami. then you moved to central florida. fort lauderdale is between the area where the shooting took place. do you know anyone that lives there or talk to anyone that lives there or has kids that go to the school or connected to it? >> i talked to the superintendent of schools. i know him. he is really shaken by this. and he is bound and determined
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that the community and the school family will heal. and he will bring them all back together. brian: senator, do you also think it is time to give the schools a fighting chance when these crazy former students come back to kill and don't you think it is time to arm qualified security guards? >> yes. and this is a mental health problem. and, we have got to face the fact that this is an automatic, military assault weapon. i want you to know i grew up on a ranch. i have grown up with guns. i have hunted all my life. i hunt with my son still. and an ar-15 is not for hunting. it is for killing. and the question is, should this
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be a legal weapon in our society? just think of all of these children are our children. and if we were the parents of one of those children, if we thought that it was not easy to get an assault weapon, we might be thinking that one less child was dead. steve: sure. sounds like you are suggesting another gun law to ban those kind of weapons? >> well you know, we had that back in the '90s. and it expired after 10 years. in the early 2000s. and we can't even get -- senator feinstein offered an amendment, now, get this. it was if you're on the terrorist watch list, you can not buy a gun. we couldn't get the votes to pass that. brian: i believe, if i remember correctly, those couple of years without assault weapons bands
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did not affect anything in terms of crime and killing. >> are you talking about during that 10-year period? brian: yeah. >> i don't know the statistics from that. but i know that an automatic weapon such as this kill a lot of people in a short period of time. time. it can kill a whole lot of things in a short period of time. steve: that certainly will be part of the conversation going forward. >> it should be. steve: along with the mental health issue which you touched on. the disturbing social media. there do appear to have been a number of warning signs simply missed. brian: arming security guards in these schools. >> you asked about that. the fact is, we can't make our schools armed camps. i mean that, that is not practical. and it is not reflective of our open society. brian: i want to qualify with a guy being able to shoot back. we're out of time.
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appreciate it. ainsley: coming up the florida high school shooter due in court later today. where does the investigation go from here? from here? criminal defense attorney and former detective ted williams gives us insight on that. that's next. and get expert backup in the blink of an eye. because safety is never being satisfied and always working to be better. mom anit's not theirs.car... it's mine. mine. mine. and it always will be, forever and forever. the new rx 350l with three rows for seven passengers. experience amazing at your lexus dealer.
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19-year-old nicolas cruz just about three hours ago, formally charged as you said with 17 counts of premeditated murder. our cameras there this morning as he was brought there to the jail, still wearing that hospital gown. as you can remember, when he was taken into custody yesterday they did take him to the hospital to be checked out. we don't know if he suffered any injuries. he was there a short amount of time, 45 minutes. then he was brought to the broward county sheriff's office headquarters. that is where he was interrogated overnight. we're talking about 12 hours of interrogation from fbi, homicide detectives with the broward sheriff's office as well. they're searching for a motive here. what led to this tragedy. they're looking at what he did in the days and hours that led to the shooting tragedy. what we have heard from the sheriff they're not just looking at that. they're also looking at social
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media, at his instagram posts and his facebook posts which have since been deleted. what they did show, it was nothing short of disturbing. that is according to the broward's sheriff's office. he is sitting behind bars as we speak here in fort lauderdale. rebecca vargas for "fox & friends." steve: thank you for your reports this morning. to weigh? on where the investigation goes fox news contributor, former homicide detective, ted williams joins us from the nation's capitol. they're trying to figure out
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what the guy's motive was. in one of these mass murders like this whatever possesses somebody to do something so diabolical? >> you know, that is the 64,000-dollar question, steve. because you're trying to get into the mind of a killer. and that's clearly not easy. but i can tell you there were so many warning signs that unfortunately it appears were missed here. his social media site where he had all of his warped information going back and forth. the fact he would kill small animals. steve: yeah. >> you have got to wonder how did this guy get a gun? and also he was in a mental institution or whatever being treated and he stopped going. and you would have thought somebody, somewhere would have to notify the authorities of what was going on in this guy's head. ainsley: what will investigators be asking him for and what will they be looking for, ted? >> they have to be very careful here. as a lawyer i can tell you they're interrogateing him to find out what was his motive. once he lawyers up he will not longer to be able to talk to them. so what they're also trying to do is listen to what he is
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saying, even when they're not intear gating him. they're trying to determine a motive in this case. steve: sure. regarding the gun he reportedly used, the ar-15, we have senator bill nelson with just about five minutes ago, he referred to it as an automatic weapon but is a powerful weapon. is it fair to say if he didn't use a gun like that, he would have used another type of gun if he was so motivated to kill people yesterday? >> i think that is fair to say, steve. what he had was actually a semiautomatic weapon. steve, i have covered san bernardino, i covered the shooting at virginia tech, i covered the las vegas shooting with the 59, talking about automatic weapon. i'm not for banning automatic weapons, and i am for banning automatic weapons and dangerous
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concoction between them and mental illness. we have to be able to put people on some kind of a mental illness registry, when they go and attempt to buy one of these automatic or semiautomatic weapons that they will show up from a mental illness standpoint. ainsley: you said you're for banning automatic weapons. aren't automatic weapons already banned? isn't this a semiautomatic? >> automatic weapons, are ainsley. ainsley: they're all banned. >> it is semiautomatic. i want to make sure i'm clear. i'm not for banning for them banned for all purposes. i'm interested for them being banned for individuals who show some men that discord and some mental illness. steve: exactly the question where do you draw the line. tammy bruce said 70% of the country is on some sort of drug right now that can impact your a awareness. ainsley: he was 19 years old.
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should they be a little older if they're going to buy this gun? >> you know those are debates that we should have. i do believe that they should be, but guys, we go through this every, several times a year, the same identical conversation. we need to now start doing something about it. steve: something just is not working out. ted, thank you very much for joining us from our nation's capitol. >> my pleasure. ainsley: you stories change. you report on stories differently when you're a parent yourself. you start about thinking about life differently. i think what my little girl and what she will go through over the next decades the argument changed for me. in the wake of the tragedy in florida, some democrats, like senator bill nelson, you heard a few moments ago, he thinks we need thank you gun laws. what do you think? steve: we'll ask senator ted cruz. he is coming up.
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>> he sprinted with everything he had towards it to make sure everybody was safe. i heard he got in front of a couple people and shielded them. he actually took the bullets for them. he didn't make it. but he saved their live for sure. ainsley: we are back with a fox news alert. a student there you hear describing the heroic actions of that football coach right there who has been identified as the first victim of the horrific school shooting in florida. his name is coach aaron feis. steve: dieing a hero after shielding some of the students from gunfire. the heart break felt throughout the country as we hear more about the panic and horror on campus. ainsley: caroline shively down in parkland, florida, with the latest. caroline. reporter: steve and ainsley, by my count i covered seven of the last eight shootings in america.
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sandy hook is the only one i haven't covered. what i'm struck by in all of these, massive scope how it affects the local officials. here is one who spoke with us. >> i'm absolutely sick to my stomach to see children, who go to school, armed with backpacks and pencils lose their lives. my triplets graduated from this very school. we had a deputy sheriff whose son was shot tonight, shot in the arm. he is at one of the local area hospitals. reporter: school is closed today and tomorrow. grief counselors are talking to students and staffers who need it. steve, ainsley, back to you. steve: caroline shively, life in parkland, florida, thank you very much. let's bring in texas senator ted cruz who joins from us statuary hall this morning. senator, i think you're in our bureau. >> i am. steve: senator, your thoughts about what happened yesterday in florida? >> it is truly heartbreaking and
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all of us, our prayers are with the families and all of those children who went through that horror. you know, just a few months ago i was in sutherland springs, texas with another horrific shooting in that beautiful church. i have grieved with the families mourning their loved ones. and all of us together, this horror shouldn't exist. we don't know right now exactly why this deranged individual did this. i'm sure in the days to come we're going to find out more about what his, what his motives were, whatever they were, they were evil this is horrible, horrible thing and our prays are with us for the families. brian: could something like that happen in texas? do they have armed guards at public schools in texas. >> sure, this can happen anywhere. we have seen evil, evil can occur whether in parkland or in a church in central texas or in schools across the country. i mean there are murders, evil
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is sadly always present and we do what we can to act to prevent it. sometimes you see brave heroes who are able to step forward and, sometimes you have to people like in sutherland springs, who were armed who can engage the killer and stop them, save peeps lives. brian: i say do your public schools allow it. i know every state is different. do your public schools allow armed security? >> certainly some schools have armed security, that can make a difference but it varies school by school. ainsley: the democrats are calling for more gun control. not allowing you to buy the ar-15 anymore. how will republicans respond to this? because we have seen multiple shootings recently, mass shootings using this weapon. you're a parent. you have young girls who will grow up and go to school as well, already in school. how do you think republicans need to respond? >> well look, of course your reright reaction of the democrats to any tragedy to
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start to politicize it. they have start calling we have to take away second amendment rights of law-abiding citizens that is not the right answer. i can tell you in sutherland springs, i was there the day after the shooting. i was in that sanctuary that was covered with bullet holes and blood, and was, the most horrific thing i have ever seen in my life. i was at the hospital with the victims, with the victims families. over and over again what they said to me in texas, they said gun control is not the answer here. this is moms grieving while their sons are being operated on. look, we all had our guns. this is one of the moms i talked to in sutherland springs. we had our guns, left them in the car for respect for the church. if any of us had brought them in, the gunman wouldn't have killed any of these people. the answer to focus on criminals, focus on violent criminals. this individual, appears to have significant issues with mental illness. i think we will certainly be asking were there signs of mental illness? could we have stepped in
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prevented this beforehand? with sutherland springs, had the obama administration simply followed federal law, enforced the law, existing gun laws made it legal for the sutherland springs sheeter to buy the gun but the obama administration failed to report his criminal convictions t wasn't in the background check. brian: that was military thing. something else you're doing legislatively that will impact this country. we understand there are two plans you're voting on, the round plan and grassley plan. what would ted cruz accept? >> listen the plans before the senate right now, think they don't make any sense at all. we should not granting citizenship for people here illegally. for whatever reason you have a whole lot of republicans eager to propose granting citizenship for 1.8 million people here brian: you don't like the president's four pillars? >> that is dramatically to the left of where barack obama was.
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barack obama in duck can, which was executive amnesty, it was illegal, unconstitutional, daca covered 690,000 people. why on earth are republicans trying to more than double, nearly triple that from 690,000. brian: more accurate number? but it's a more accurate number? >> tell that the steelworkers. tell that to the truck drivers. tell that the american people we promised we wouldn't do amnesty. secondly, daca, under obama did for the life of me, i do not understand -- daca was a work permit. no citizenship whatsoever. why would republicans be galloping to the left of barack obama because -- brian: they want border security and they have to give to get something up. you only have 51 votes. >> mark my words, if republican majorities in congress pass citizenship for millions of people in many necessity, i think it is quite likely we will lose both houses of congress and
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speaker nancy pelosi will impeach president trump. brian: do you not think it is accurate that 70% of the country want a pathway? >> no, i don't think it is accurate. those polls are done, those polls are deceptive. i can tell you the american people don't want amnesty. we want the border secure. you know what we ought to be doing? we ought to be passing thing like "kate's law" which i introduced. "kate's law" says violent felons repeatedly enter the country illegally face mandatory prison sentence. that is common sense legislation. legislation. overwell minimumming majority of americans agree with that if we passed "kate's law," that beautiful woman, kate steinle would not have been murdered by a repeat violent criminal in and out of prison deported repeatedly. it is profound mistake for republicans to grant amnesty and path to citizenship for millions of people here illegally. it is not being faithful to
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promises we made to the voters. steve: senator, you say if republicans pass this, what you regard as am festty they will be punished at polls in november. what about the, look across the aisle, what is the political motivation for the democrats? >> look the democrats, their base, the extreme left, they're angry. they hate the president with a passion. i will tell you it is not clear anything will pass the senate. ironically enough republicans may be saved from our foolishness because democrats are so radical and extreme they will say no to everything. that is possible. but on the left they are filled with fury which means 2018 is going to be a turnout election. the left is going to show up in massive numbers of the only question we need it ask if we want to know is 2018 good election, to republicans pick up for, five, six senate seats, or is it disaster election we lose both houses? it turnout. do conservatives show up? if you want to design in a
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laboratory legislation to keep millions of conservatives at home, it would be what is being proposed right now. let's go to the left of obama and give a couple million people citizenship here illegally. that is real mistake. brian: in exchange for a wall lot of people want. >> you know what we saw this deal in the '80s. the wall won't happen. a border security is promise of paying you tuesday for a hamburger today. brian: put money in trust fund it will happen. if they don't they won't. >> that is it not what the legislation does, it does over 10 years. democrats understand the game. they know it promises border security. it doesn't happen. the american people are tired of that bait and switch. brian: senator, thanks. ainsley: coming up next, we turn our attention to the top story, school shooting in parkland, florida, we don't know why the shooter did it but some are saying gun control could have stopped him? is that really true? what do you think? our panel will debate that coming up next. ♪ ♪
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brian: would more laws have stopped the deranged teen killer who is 19 years old and in jail? here is what marco rubio had to here is what marco rubio had to say earlier on our show. >> we have a deeply disturbed person, someone with, you look at the social media accounts, look at some other things law enforcement not yet made public. when you put the full picture together you start to say this is a person who could be a very serious problem, what can you do about it, what can you get ahead of it and how do you jump on it to prevent it pro happening? that is the problem here. brian: what do you do with a school system where they kick you out into the legal system where they should be watching you? let's talk to our panel. we have dr. dare run procher and psychologist, dominic portelli.
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and retired police officer. he had problems kicked out of school, kicked out of two schools prior to that he is 19 living in a trailer park. he goes back to the school and kills seven teen people. hopefully that is number where it stops. who is responsible? >> talk about mental health responsible. not a gun control issue, a mental health issue. first and foremost, as mental health expert, when we look at statistics overall, mental health, by polar disorder, schizophrenia, severe depression we do not see increase in violence over all. no different than the general population. as a matter of fact, people with major mental illness more likely to be victims of crime. this is the difference however. i need to make this point. this gentleman here had a personality dysfunction. he was a sociopath. that is very different. brian: right. so, darren, where do we go from that? a sociopath kicked out of a public school, 19 years old, what should step in there? >> we have to take into
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consideration educators and in most schools you have someone referred to as resource officer. the collaboration of those two components should have got this information to law enforcement. this is someone that was genuine threat to society. he should have been on society's radar. therefore the police should have been able to do some type of surveillance on this individual. you don't need probable cause to conduct a surveilance. brian: lou, you are shaking your head. >> the unfortunate part is, resources mechanism does not exist to monitor individuals of this type who i guarranty you are in thousands in the country on daily basis but there is bigger issue here we're not speaking to. it is we have contaminated an entire generation of our culture, period. our children. and it isn't done by any one single method. the media, the entertainment industry, the lack of parenting, there is a whole dynamic here that is breaking down our children. we're teaching them violence. the entertainment industry teaches them that the resolution
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to conflict and injustice is violence. and the tool every time we use is a firearm. we have to look at what happens here and then try to figure out how we ratchet this back, how we ratchet this back, because we can sit here and intellectualize this problem all day long. it will happen again tomorrow. >> i agree with what you're saying here because things now, as psychiatrist, i'm a child psychiatrist, kids, can not tolerate frustration now. they can not tolerate failure. social media makes everyone want to be famous, which in part drives some of these horrific acts. brian: when they post something they think they are, it gets should we look at that -- >> gets to the point we need to alert law enforcement. we need the proper entity to be involved. we need subject matter experts that can effect -- >> law enforcement is not prepared to go in on case-by-case basis like this to intercede with these children that is the sad dynamic. brian: find out more facts, have you all back to see if we get closer to stopping the next one. great job guys.
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how does a community come back from a tragedy like this in this proportion? father jonathan morris is next. ♪
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>> we're waiting a live update from the broward county sheriff after 19-year-old student opened fire killing 17 adults. teen charged with 17 premeditated murder counts. we'll go live to the press conference when it begins. brow card county police commissioner and response from lawmakers. jim jordan joins us live in moments from "america's newsroom." steve: fox news alert we learned from the white house moments ago president trump signed a presidential proclamation honoring the victims of the parkland, florida, shooting. joining us is fox news religious correspondent father jonathan
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morris. >> good morning. sad day. steve: what would you like to talk to us about this morning? >> i think the debate we'll have in this country whether mental health or gun policy, that is important and excellent, but what i'm seeing, so many people across the country are seeing we're living in different times and there are lots of young people, teens, i see them in my own neighborhood desperately broken. many of them do not have a stable family structure. and so the normal pressures that have always been there are now exasperated in ways that you just can't believe. this weekend i was with a family whose 12-year-old girl tried to commit suicide. earlier last year, a 16-year-old jumped off a roof in my neighborhood to commit suicide. i have three kid that are missing right now who have run off with 30-year-olds. these are 13, 14, 15 year-olds. there are pressures today, that are different than times past. ainsley: breakdown of family values though? this kid is posting pictures on instagram. the "f" word is on the bottom of
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every picture. think of what we were growing up, you said, yes, sir, yes, ma'am, you didn't write cuss words or write it in a letter. >> of course you were responsible to someone. so many kids today are living in homes that are very broken. i don't mean just normal, difficulties in family life but seriously broken families. look at this kid, right. he had a very, very tough upbringing but there are lots of kid who are, maybe different situations but are equally desperate. and they're going to act out in different ways. steve: i think you're right. i think that will be part of the conversation trying to figure out what went wrong. >> we have to love people who are broken. and of course our own kids but also look around in our neighborhood okay? that is i think it is important. steve: i think you're right. jonathan, thank you very much. weil be right back. pain a dist.
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>> we've just heard from the press secretary of the united states. the president will be addressing the nation regarding
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the shooting in parkland, florida, at 11:00 this morning. you'll see it live right here on fox. >> we'll debate immigration as well as give you the latest on the shooting on radio. >> see you tomorrow. >> bill: our coverage continues. breaking news on what we're learning after the parkland massacre. the teenage suspect charged with 17 counts of pre-meditated murder. this nearly a day after walking to his former high school wearing a gas mask and gunning down his peers. we're hearing there will be a news conference with the broward county sheriff in an hour. welcome to "america's newsroom." good morning at home. >> sandra: two big events. the president will address the nation at 11:00 a.m. we're learning more about the

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