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♪ >> greg: i'm greg gutfeld with kimberly guilfoyle, juan williams, jesse watters and dana perino. this is "the five" ." as students plan gun violence protests, let's be honest. no one trusts each other in this debate. if you say sensible gun control, others hear code for "you are taking away my guns." if you say protect my gun rights, others call you a murderer. let's make it simple. we need to harden soft targets. big companies do this already. they are surrounded by guards. so should schools. it's a trillion dollar industry waiting to happen. bring back psychiatric hospitals. the house less than one-tenth of
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the people they did 60 years ago. if our agency look at this latest creep in 2016 but they let him go. do you want to bet it was based on space, that he wasn't worth a bed? we must -- the media footprint of killers. creeps obsess over the fame of previous creeps. it's their drug. let's take away that drug. we need to think all offensively. instead of asking how do we rig the system to stop perps from getting guns. ask how do we tag the purpose and keep them from getting guns. we want to get the bad eggs, not the law-abiding ones. florida was preventable. red flags, perfect for a database of the nuts and perps who shouldn't get guns. this guy had no violent felonies or civil tag is what could've nailed him based on testimony from cops, students, school officials, a judge could issue a simple court order. rather than defectively cast a wide net that catches tons of
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fish we don't want, you tag the right people who are placed into one single database along with violent felons. if you are in it, no gun. you violate the database, that's mandatory prison time. so this isn't just seeing something, say something, it's actually do something. by all means, protest. but it won't do much when you are targeting the haystack while letting the needle slip through. we learned about the fbi screwup, kimberly. now about this florida mental health agency, that it examined this guy in 2016 but they didn't hospitalize him. the article i read didn't say why but i'm assuming if there was room for him, why not hold him for 72 hours. they didn't even do that. >> kimberly: that's the problem. they're going to have to do some analysis on that, talk to the people in charge, the supervisor on duty, who had contact with him and made that determination. that's the only way we are going to get better. unless you do these kinds of
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thoughtful, deliberate, deep probing investigations. to figure out how we can do it better for the next time because this cannot continue to happen, especially when someone is basically screaming out for help, presenting these problems, having this violent ideation, saying they want to become a school shooter, they have the weapons in amenability to do so. they go in front of a mental health professional. the fbi has them on the screen. it wasn't on one level this was a fail, it was multiple levels people could have caught this. maybe 72 hours. >> greg: self harming, snap chats. this guy has more red flags and a red flag factory. we talked about vegas, i don't know how we could have prevented that. that guy capitalize on obscurity. no one knew. this is a guy telling you what he's going to do and nobody
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listens. >> juan: the question is whether or not you take him seriously and his civil liberties. what we know is going back to the '80s and earlier, the day d institutionalized people and said folks have a right to not have their freedoms taken away because you deem them to be some help mentally incompetent. we are not sure who you are picking on, who you are not picking on. i couldn't agree with you more. i think it's a danger, increasing danger to society when you have so many not only people who are of a murderous instinct. but i think we have high rates of people who, for example, veterans who have traumatic syndrome as homeless people. i see more homeless people all over the country than ever. i think that's a lot of mental illness. i will say it's great the young people are willing to march in washington. i think hopefully it will change the tenor of the debate. maybe if young people are saying
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you've got to do something, it will appeal to people who, as you point outcome are locked into own, you are going to take my guns. gun owners, nra members think background checks can be done better. president trump has said today, or his aides of said, he is interested in doing something to strengthen the background checks. >> greg: these suggestions i made, i think david french wrote a good piece for national review on -- >> dana: gun violence restraining orders. >> greg: from the conservative libertarian side. no one trusted coming from the other side because everybody is so -- we hear the dog whistle that they are coming to the guns away. >> jesse: it is true. a pre9/11 mind-set when it comes to school shootings. after 9/11, everyone realized they were -- the agencies weren't sharing anything with each other. and i have the police, school,
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department of children and family. everybody knows something, even the fbi, no one is sharing this information. you look at a threat matrix on a kid like this. he's diagnosed autistic, depressed, mentally unstable by the agency that looked at him and someone who is an at risk adults because of mental instability. he was develop mentally disabled. you have a mobile crisis unit dispatched to the school. he's expelled for violent behavior at the school. the police are called dozens of times to the house. if you add that up, all those different things, you say if someone qualifies for 60% of all those things, then maybe they don't get a gun. maybe you make them wait a few years before he's able to purchase a weapon like that at that age. obviously we need gun control but it wouldn't be taking guns away from people. or not manufacturing the hour 15. can't even band bump stocks
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after vegas. but we should do these background checks and make sure the information shared appropriately. >> greg: whenever gun control, the law-abiding gun owner thinks it's about them. the idea is to switch it. no, it's most like stop and frisk corporation community policing applied to this. >> dana: i think so and i think it's not necessarily a congressional move here. states are the policy innovators. this is mostly estates -- state right issue. you could do that in tallahassee. that could happen in florida. or you might do it in another state and it's an experiment. that's where the experience exs happens, in the states. sometimes the federal governments will do things like type transportation funds in order to get a state to comply with something like the drinking
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age or something. if this were to work in a certain place, you could try it out somewhere. you have somebody like the mother from connecticut at sandy hook. she tried to get help. she didn't know where to go. there's real concern about cuts to medicaid which is where a lot of people get their mental health help if they are going to get any. i hadn't heard the autism diagnosis. i think -- i don't know enough about it. there is a tendency to extrapolate that into others. i would say on the communication standpoint, the kids staying in this story makes it very hard for the media to ignore it. they know that. i think they've been pretty smart. they are working together, using social networks in order to gather not just in tallahassee. they are calling for a march on march 24. that sounds weird. a march in march. march 24. the more they stay in the story, it's harder for people to ignore
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but i don't necessarily think this is just a congressional issue. i think you can get more done faster at the state level. >> greg: i think the media doesn't have to be -- this is a highly visual protest, especially if it's going to be nationwide and the women's march is going to get behind it which is going to raise suspicions that it's a political event and a liberal one. that's an error. and an error to doc about repealing the second amendment because that's not going to happen. but you hear that. i think the media may be focused why he wasn't placed in the hospital. how did the fbi dropped the ball as well as these protests. >> kimberly: you want to make sure it's not going to be a direct, full on assault on the second amendment. given the political differences and ideological differences, to try to use this as a vehicle to try to confiscate guns. there are situations where somebody can just make a complaint against your neighbor or something like that and then you have to be very careful. >> dana: it will be like once
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you get on the list, how would you -- in order to get off of i it. i think one of the states could start this. >> greg: if it's a civil tag, that means the bars lower. it's about these people. it's about the guy you know. it's like nobody knows what to do with the problem. >> jesse: kimberly mentioned that a state agency visited this guy after he was posting pictures on social media of him cutting himself and saying he wanted to do violence and buy a gun. he was wearing long sleeves of the time and the reason they didn't commit him was because they never checked and looked at his sleeves. pull your sleeves up. pathetic visit by that state agency. >> kimberly: that's what happens. they are pressed and they have so many occasions and they do a rush. i won't even tell you. they didn't check a little girl had been beaten.
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her scalloped was duct taped. >> greg: juan, you brought up vets. >> when 9/11 happened, the planes hit the towers, airports were changed forever. we got the tsa. our children are getting hit. it's time to change the schools forever. there's a population of there. i didn't have a new stance but last year's stats for .3% unemployment for returning vets in this country. 435,000 trained men who have eyes and ears. we need to have them at the schools. >> greg: i think it's a great idea. >> juan: the criticism is if you police the schools so intensely, then everything a young person does becomes a criminal act rather than a teenager acting up. all of a sudden, now there's a
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criminal record. essentially you are institutionalizing a school in a way that i don't think schools are intended. >> dana: if i understand what tyrus is saying, they wouldn't be there in order to have disciplinary action oversight. they would be there to protect. >> juan: that would be ideal boat if you have police there, then i think the school authorities -- >> dana: the vets wouldn't be police. >> juan: the bigger point is basically people get locked in to their political boxes right here. people will say you're coming from my guns. to my mind, when i think about the nra and its role here, i don't see how you get away from it because they are so heavily politicized and they put so many dollars into republican candidates. they backed republicans. >> jesse: i think the nra influence is a little overrated. planned parenthood puts a lot
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more money. if any president could do something on this issue, i think donald trump good. very, very supportive of the second amendment and if he wants to give a little on background checks come i think the country would be open to it. >> juan: absolutely. the question is would his right wing be open to it. with the nra be open to it? i think so many of the case of gun owners are single issue voters, and that's the only issue. they see the whole world through that prism and are easily threatened. i think if trump, others at the nra would say listen, here's a reasonable step we can get behind, it would make a huge difference because remember, we didn't get bump stocks. we haven't had any added steps in terms of the mental illness issue that greg is talking about today. medicare, as dana was talking about, less opportunities for coverage for mental health issues. to me, this is staring us in the face. we don't need to wonder about it. >> greg: we haven't had good,
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practical solutions from the loudest voices. the aclu came out against the obama bill because it was a defensive move, casting a wide net on people who can't fill out their social security benefits because of a disability. this is not the type of crowd that shoots up schools. president trump's tweeting over the russia probe. that's next.
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♪ >> kimberly: president trump chided the fbi for missing warnings on the accused florida gunmen and spending too much time and stood on the russia probe. he fired off more than a dozen tweets after the special counsel's indictment of russians from meddling with our election. he also, continuing his terror on president obama. "obama was president up to, and beyond, the 2016 election. so why didn't he do something about russian meddling?" >> i have said the obama administration should have done more.
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we couldn't get them to acknowledge the russian interference. they were wary of appearing to be putting their hand on the scale and the election. now they did make an acknowledgment of the following month but i don't think that was sufficient. >> kimberly: dana, interesting. strange bedfellows. >> dana: thumb on the scale, not hand on the scale. >> greg: he has tiny hands. >> dana: [laughs] on the obama administration, that's one of the underreported stories of the last year. while there's been a huge focus on the mueller probe, that if you go back to now we know in 2014 that was one when russia started going after us. at the same time they are invading ukraine. the obama administration would say we were focused on the fact that we were trying to protect the actual people. they don't get ahead of this one. history will have to decide what it will on that front. a lot of people on the
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democratic side very frustrated that not more was done. i look back and think i don't know what more could have been done in the middle of it. i understand the sensitivity about not getting in the middle of the election and acting like the russians were trying to help president trump and it would look like obama was trying to help hillary. that's another reason why there are a lot of people that want mueller to finish his investigation at least by the late spring. the later you get, then you're getting involved in another election, the midterm elections of 2018. on the other front, i think talking about the fbi being distracted by doing too much on russia and that's why it couldn't prevent 17 children from being murdered, a fine line for a pundit. not a good one for a president. if the president believes that the mueller indictment of the 13 russians was a good news for him, let it sit. instead it stirred the pot even more and made the story last through the weekend.
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>> greg: i have advice for democrats and republicans. for democrats, i'm going to use an olympic metaphor. when you are a curler, that's are not your full-time job. it would be foolish to pin all of your hopes and dreams on being a curler. those skills are not transferable. especially if you lose, you are quickly forgotten. the democrats -- >> kimberly: people not following. >> greg: curling. the democrats, the collusion obsession is curling. unlike the athlete, they don't have a backup. they need a backup. if they are planning everything on a very specific event like russian collusion with a low chance of path, they're going to lose big. for the republicans, last year, i said do not take satisfactions of russians hacking of dnc or john podesta because it's going to happen to all of us. the russians do not play favorites. they play the hand they have. they were going after the
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democrats and rnc but it was easier on the democrats. it's not about territory. it's about broadband. people bring up paper ballots. we talked about this, to combat this intrusion. we don't have that remedy for our banking system. we don't have paper ballots for our banking system or the electric grid. when somebody hacked that stuff, then it's over. that's what scares me. it's not about -- the marginal attacks on the election system, we do that already. we do that to ourselves. we are as negative as they are to ourselves. i am worried about what happens when they paralyze our banking system, you can't get money out of your atm. we all end up robbing each other. >> greg: i thought you keep it in your mattress. >> greg: i do. my pillow. >> kimberly: it's gone. >> greg: eyes sleep on nothing but my
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pillows. >> jesse: russia should have helped hillary. obama was soft on russia. he let them take over ukraine. he gave the iranians a billion dollars or so in cash. they ran wild during his administration. trump comes in. energy is soaring. we are beating them in the energy production. we sent missiles on their doorstep to syria. we slapped him sanctions on them. i think we are overstating the whole issue when it comes to this interference. they spent $40,000 on facebook ads. hillary and trump spent $81 million. if you talk about the propaganda injected into the election, think about the corruption that really happens. cnn, donna brazile, gave information, questions to hillary beforehand. nbc leaked the locker room talk tape. there was a lot of really dirty
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stuff that went on through media and hillary. the dossier is more impactful than a few russian bots on twitter. that affected the entire mainstream media. they reported trump was a traitor the last three months of the election. imagine if donald trump had paid a foreign agent millions of dollars to bring russian dirt and pump it into fox news and smear hillary as a traitor, he would've been the biggest cold or ever. hillary actually did that on the other side and no one wants to talk about it. >> juan: what stands out to me this afternoon is that the president over the weekend went on a twitter rage. he was upset about something and he is blaming democrats. he is blaming the fbi. she did not see the result of the indictment last week of the russians in the way he had hoped -- he said it was going to vindicate him. over the weekend he hears people say no. the russians may have unwittingly, but they were involved with trump officials in
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their efforts. to jesse's point, if he wants to take action right now, he could implement the sanctions that were passed by congress that he is sitting on. he's not punishing the russians with something that is right before him. when you talk about the impact of what the russians did, there is email hacking, there's the clinton speeches. they even got inside the democratic campaign because they tried to exacerbate tensions between bernie sanders and hillary. >> greg: don't forget jill stein. you add all of the liberals showing up at the anti-trump rallies run by the russians. >> juan: my favorite part of all of this, they go after the minorities and they say to minorities, black people who are woke would never vote for that devil, hillary. they make black people threatening so the trump people are afraid that black people are going to take over. >> greg: i've got to respond
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to that. we are already doing that to ourselves and it ten times greater scale. >> dana: that's why we should be kinder to each other as americans. >> kimberly: ahead, fergie giving roseanne barr a run for her money with the most widely panned rendition of the national anthem yet. little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months, ... with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting.
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♪ banner yet wave ♪ and the home of the brave >> kimberly: oh, my gosh. the singer has given a statement. "last night i wanted to try something special for the nba. i am a risk-taker artistically but clearly this rendition didn't strike the intended tone. i love this country and honestly i tried my best." jesse, i cannot sing at all. i don't sing ever. >> greg: we know. >> dana: i'm not going to sing. but that's pretty bad.
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>> jesse: i'm worse than you. i'm the worst singer of all time. i never sang and i would never allow myself to sing in front of you. the only time i sing is injured, and it's embarrassing. i would say this. i don't like it when people take liberties with the anthem. i think it's such a great song in such a perfect song that i don't want to hear your spin on it. i want to hear the anthem. a lot of the times the artists make it about themselves when they do their little twists and turns with it. just keep it about the anthem. keep it about the country. ben shapiro said it was like if she had knelt during the anthem, it was worse than that. [laughter] >> dana: what do you think, juan? >> juan: i liked charles barkley's comment. he said after that, i need a cigarette. i guess she was trying to be bluesy with it but it didn't work for me. i love the cutaways. the players, didn't work for the people listening there. you think this is in los angeles. they could've gotten tremendous
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talent. >> kimberly: she is a good singer normally. i don't know what happened here. >> juan: there are lots of renditions of the national anthem that are a little bit different and sometimes i'm thrilled with them. obviously i think what marvin gaye, jimi hendrix, those were great. >> dana: do you think this would've been one of those times where nobody in her entourage her in her bubble wanted to tell her it wasn't great. >> greg: one of the problems i have with my entourage. they don't tell me in. i go out and do something and embarrass myself. why don't you tell me. greg, we can't. i have to give her credit for knowing all the words. that's good. she reminds me of my drunk aunt at a wedding reception karaoke. in her head, she sounds fantastic. but the other thing, this is what society has mistakenly identified as sexy. it's like ooh. "gilligan's island," it is supposed to be ginger but it's
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marianne. sultry. >> kimberly: >> kimberly: are wg role-playing. >> greg: confidence, self assurance that is alluring. she was like marilyn monroe doing happy birthday. but i like the fact that she took a risk. >> dana: my fondest wish is somebody makes a gif of greg doing what he just did. >> kimberly: this didn't hit the right notes. i think she should get a do ove over. >> greg: her and roseanne on tour. >> juan: roseanne has taken advantage of it. not as bad as i did. >> dana: oprah interviewed voters last night and i got president trump all riled up. guys, i know it's so hard to trust
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♪ >> juan: oprah winfrey has been shutting down rumors of her running in 2020 but she challenged president trump on "60 minutes" last night as she was interacting with some of his supporters. >> who here believes he made the comment about "[bleep] countries." >> he did not say haitian people or the people of africa, he said those countries. >> come on. polls show respect of the united states is eroding around the world. they have been some members of congress including republicans who question his stability and fitness for office. do you think the president is held to a different standard when it comes to this issue of sexual harassment? >> the question is are the accusations credible. >> juan: the president was watching and he had a lot to say about it on twitter. "just watched a very insecure oprah winfrey, who at one point
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i knew very well, interview a panel of people on "60 minutes." the questions were biased and slanted, the facts incorrect. hope oprah runs so she can be exposed and defeated just like all of the others!" gregory gets a kick out of it. >> greg: i do. why does he do it? it's fun and requires minimal effort for maximal impact. took him a minute to write. creates a day of magical chaos. this is what happened to him at the correspondents' dinner. people mock him and he became president. you usually expect a person to hold back on oprah because she's wildly popular african-american woman. he is the least aware of identity politics of anybody on the planet. he doesn't care. he will make fun of anybody. he will go after -- virtue signaling is not in his dna. >> jesse: he went after gold star families. doesn't care. he's got to defend his brand.
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i'm a little worried he's watching 60 minutes on a sunday night. i'm not sure if that's the best use of his time but i understand the strategy. instead of giving a huge speech and wasting 45 minutes, he can send out a tweet and create a narrative where he is seen as a victim and the media is seen as trying to get him. i understand why. i would be sensitive to. heats it's funny he is calling e else insecure. the only president to fight back against the biased media. you have a celebrity who comes out who endorsed hillary, endorsed barack obama hurling slanted questions that trump supporters. i don't mind if cvs is tough on trump -- cbs. they don't treat people of
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different parties the same. i don't care if you are tough on republicans but beat tough on democrats. if you want to do softer, more personal interviews with democrats, do something with trump two. cbs tried to get bush with the documents. cbs is in the tank. we know it. >> juan: dana, what did you think of the questions? >> dana: i am curious about the assignments they are giving oprah. i didn't think she would be doing as many political segments for 60 minutes when she was announced because we haven't really seen her in mainstream media for a long time. she has her cable network, the own network. i want to listen to her. i usually like the questions. but i could see why somebody would think that just is not -- there is a divide there. there's an obvious bias that comes into it from both sides. everybody is suspicious of each other. i admire her for going and maybe we can hear from her personal how she feels about that. if i were the president, i would focus on hobbling people who are really going to run, like
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john kerry and bernie sanders. cut their legs out from under them before they get going. >> kimberly: oh, my gosh. >> juan: this was a group put together in michigan by a conservative pollster. what you have is this group had been together before. they come together again. she's asking questions about polling that shows eroding support for the u.s. overseas, about questions people in congress questioning the president's abilities. the comment about the african, caribbean, latin american countries. do you see it as biased or is it a journalist asking a question? >> kimberly: the president felt it was biased against him, that these were inflammatory. planted to give him a response. he reflexively reacted on twitter. i'm not really sure what's going on here in terms of, it seems like they are positioning oprah a little bit.
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they are saying the assignments, the coverage, the topics. i look at this through a critical eye. >> dana: it's good for both of them. everybody is talking about oprah and trump today. >> juan: it is being talked about as the cruise from hell. a violent, bloodied brawl on a south pacific cruise. that's next.
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♪ >> jesse: family vacations can sometimes get tense but i've never seen anything like this. [bleep]. space 623 members of a family kicked off a carnival cruise ship after engaging with brawls with other passengers. it's not clear what set this off at the original fight may have originated from someone stepping on another passengers flip-flop. guests reportedly locked themselves in their cabins to
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escape the violence. something tells me, greg, you would be the one locking yourself in the cabin. >> greg: they should have gone camping. then it would really be intense. this is finally something that's interesting about a cruise. a cruise is essentially a mall/hotel on a moving platform. it's basically house arrest with a buffet. the result is you can't get away from the people you want to get away from. this is better than the forest friendships you acquire on vacation. vacation friends. you find out they are swingers and alcoholics. >> kimberly: what kind of vacations? >> jesse: the security guard was delivering a bunch of blows. he was stomping on people. >> juan: i don't know what led to this level. >> dana: don't step on my flip-flops. >> juan: what i read there was a big family and one big family
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sort of nursed a grudge against another big family and then it blew up. it's like a virus was spreading on this cruise. i have only gone on one cruise. i did that as a favor to some friends at "the weekly standard." >> greg: [laughs] >> juan: i am not a cruise guy. you're trapped in with people. if you get people who are violent or crazy or angry, i don't see that you have an out. >> jesse: i think "the weekly standard" cruise might sells more tickets. >> juan: if it got like that. >> jesse: some more action. kimberly, have you ever been on a cruise before? >> kimberly: no. i have nothing against cruises except for norovirus, he will getting thrown overboard or murdered. i have been on big boats before but not like this. this is really out of control.
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you are sort of trapped there. what are you going to do, jump overboard to get away? seems like security was overindulging. there's going to be lawsuits. >> dana: i've never been on a cruise and i don't think i could -- i don't think i have 23 members of my family i could pull together. >> jesse: does your family fight? could they throw down like that? >> dana: no. >> greg: they bite. >> juan: carnival is being asked for refunds and they say we're going to do very little. >> dana: i wouldn't refund their money. >> jesse: maybe we should do a "the five" cruise. charge people a lot of money. we could all go together. >> dana: that's the worst idea i've ever heard. >> greg: great idea. great idea. i would go on that. i would be on a lot of pills. >> jesse: if the price is right. "one more thing" is up next.
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♪ >> greg: it is now time for "one more thing." i shall go first. greg's flashback. i like to go back to earlier times in my career when i was just starting out, like about 2. yeah, it's amazing how quickly this showed up.
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10 minutes before i was making fun -- well, no, i was making fun of fergie and now i am fergie. we are all fergie, juan. >> juan: who was the sexy guy, the singer. >> greg: tom jones. i've been hit by his underwear. he used to throw underwear in the crowd. >> kimberly: way to ruin the whole show. >> juan: what do doing the snowy woods on a winter's day? how about start a fire. this one is unlike any you've seen. 42,000 matchsticks, they hang it in the woods. he is trying to light it three times. boy does he get a blazing resul result. >> greg: that's pretty interesting. you promised. >> greg: wait for it. >> dana: there you go. is that a good idea?
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>> kimberly: doesn't seem so safe. >> kimberly: there is a lot of trees. >> juan: a lot of snow on the ground. the video has been viewed over 4 million times. >> kimberly: i want to give a quick shout out to a young man who is an amazing example of what you can achieve when you put your mind to something and never give up. his name is andrew. when he was 13, he was a six time alaska state wrestling champion. he had a tragic atv accident that left him sadly paralyzed from the waist down but his physical therapist encouraged him to do this skiing. he never lost his faith and made the u.s. paralympic national team. he's won four metals and now he's competing in the games in pyeongchang. cheers to andrew. he's a fantastic role model for so many young people. >> greg: i had a great "one more thing" idea. the key to living to 90 is
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drinking alcohol. that just came across. i should've done that. >> jesse: happy presidents' day, everybody. all five former presidents are alive. this rarely happens. carter, hw, w, clinton, barack obama. i want to wish everybody a happy presidents' day. i think it was george washington's birthday. that's where it becomes regionally known as. and then a in '71, they includd everyone. throw it all together. we are even celebrating jimmy carter's birthday. [laughter] >> dana: that was a great "one more thing." >> jesse: maybe next time i will do a dog. >> dana: i have a presidents' day related one. the 2018 white house christmas ornament introduced today. they are going to make a tribute
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to our 33rd president, harry truman. honors the changes truman made to the white house. first is the seal. he turned the american eagle to face the olive branch of peace and he oversaw the building of the south portico, the truman balcony. the back of it, a christmas tree in the blue room. i collect these and i think this might be the best one. >> greg: it's only february. >> dana: they have to have a whole year to market them. >> juan: the white house historical society. i don't care about your politics. they do great work. >> dana: stuart mclaurin runs it. he's an amazing guy. >> jesse: not a holiday ornament. a christmas ornament. >> dana: it says christmas ornaments. it always has. they never caved.
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>> greg: set your dvrs. never miss an episode of "the five." "special report" is up next. john roberts is in for bret. >> quiz, what else is harry truman famous for? >> greg: he had a secret tunnel? >> john: the bowling alley in the executive office building. >> juan: way to go, john. >> john: president trump backs efforts to improve federal background checks as florida shooting survivors challenge washington to do something about guns. the kremlin says indictments over russian election interference proves nothing and politicians and one u.s. state want to improve election security by going back to the past. this is "special report" ." good evening. welcome to

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