court later today to answer these charges officially. >> thanks for joining us. great to be here. >> "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: and this fox news alert, students who survived that deadly school shooting in florida are taking action. first, they attended a funeral for one of the victims of the massacre. 16-year-old after a candlelight vigil at the school last night. in a little more than an hour from now, about 100 kids are going to board buses to head to tallahassee, florida. their state capital. they say they have ideas they want to talk about with lawmakers. they're hoping to make sure no one has to go through what they went through again. this is "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, the editor of townhall.com katie pavlich is here. republican strategist and fox news contributor lisa boothe. i love how she waves. democratic strategist and fox news contributor jessica tarlov, and you can wave if you want. former secret service agent,

former nypd officer, and host of the dan bongino show, he's given the double wave because he rolled like that. >> lisa: there's already an agreement the couch. >> harris: i don't know if our fantastic viewership can see those socks. >> dan: i was a blackhawks where, he inspired me to get a little more colorful. >> harris: he went from neutral to patriotic. >> dan: i was a secret service guy, we had to wear black socks. >> harris: 's get to the news. for students who survived that deadly shooting in florida are heading into their state capital today. they're going to meet with lawmakers tomorrow to discuss strengthening gun-control mental health laws. when student shared some ideas. watch. >> ban assault weapons. we do not need these weapons. these are weapons and for killing and attacking people, not for defense. the second amendment thing is the only thing that opposes it and it's a good amendment. however, we don't need to have these things.

the second thing is, i propose that the government of each state has a state agency that they could work to interact with the fbi and local law enforcement. >> harris: students are planning to march on washington next month at the white house as president trump is open to a bipartisan bill to strengthen background checks for gun buyers. here's white house crystal secretary raj shah. >> there are ways to strengthen the background check system. we are looking at that, looking at other items as well. there were many red flags that were raised and nothing was done. i think the expectation is to figure out what had gone wrong in society when these kinds of horrific acts keep occurring. they are 15 people talk about has been a legal firearm for nearly five decades i believe, and we are just seeing these types of incidents rise in schools and in other places.

>> harris: meanwhile, i'll pull five and 77% of those asked say congress is not doing enough to prevent mass shootings. 62% say they're not doing enough. they think the park when shooting could've been prevented by more effective mental health screening and treatment. but it looks like the nation is divided on a ban on sale of assault weapons. 50% support a nationwide ban, 46% oppose it. dan bongino, a lot of that may have to do with the fact that this is so multifaceted. you have something happening at the fbi level. i really want to know your thoughts on that first. >> dan: signs were missed. we had a secret service back in the 80s or we would go on presidential threat cases and sometimes remit them secret service was very open and honest about it. sarah jane morris, squeaky crown, the general board incident, we interviewed one of those folks, and they came away saying they weren't a threat. the secret service just like what happened here with the fbi

where signs were missed and things could've been done. what they did as they came out with a standardized form in a process and it was a way to follow that process step-by-ste step-by-step. if anything was missed, they could come back later in his ways to look at that process and what went wrong. that's why i kind of object although i respect these kids in their right, the absolute should speak out, they've been through a horrible tragedy, but banning quote assault weapons is not the right approach. >> harris: let's look to the left of the screen because this is a live picture of coral springs, florida. i mentioned a moment ago that about 100 kids are going to get on buses and head to their state capital tallahassee to voice their opinions and their ideas after the parkland school shooting. so we are watching that happen live. we do have a reporter and others out there. if you pulled somebody aside, we will go to a live. watching these pictures as the bus pulls up to take these kids. we are kind of the way and you heard dan talking about it, away from the guns conversation and

more on the mental health conversation and the things that got left behind. there's a process and an opportunity for democrats and republicans to come together. >> jessica: is incredibly exciting and i really give credit to these kids, these teenagers who have been such a vocal advocates for a new america that they would like to see whether or not they're scared to go to school. they have been having a multifaceted conversation, to your point, there is no emphasis on what the fbi missed here. but these kids if you listen to them, the been incredibly nuanced. school security as well and these types of weapons and i know we are here with katie who knows a lot more about guns and i do and i can admit that freely but i do understand why there are so many americans making up the day after yesterday saying what is a normal person need a weapon like this. i know there are answers that people give, i personally don't agree with that. it's not the way that i grew up in a way that i live. i respect the second amendment entirely but at a moment where i hope we are seeing a change in

this conversation, those kids are not going to be able to be ignored and they're going to show up in washington over and over again. the nra is in a lot of trouble here especially in places like florida. >> katie: i would say nobody wants america where schools are places where school shootings always occur but you have to look at the reality that schools are the softest targets that we have in america. we hear these calls for a new assault weapons ban which is really a ban on semiautomatic rifles. when you look at the details and the data from the clinton era assault weapons ban, the clinton doj said that it didn't recruit reduce crime been the type of firearm and it didn't reduce mass shootings. when you ask people why did they need a certain type of firearms, let's talk about need, it's about the second amendment and what people have a right to have read the ar-15 is the most popular rifle in this country. it's owned by 6 million people. when you look at the data from dhs, handguns are the weapon of choice when it comes to mass shootings. you go down the slope of if you're going to go after one

thing and effectively because more people are killed with hands and face every year than they are by rifles, you can't really justify taking away people's second amendment if it doesn't add up with the data. >> harris: real quickly, and i'll come to you in just a second. i want to press and a little bit on the ar-15. i know you know a lot about it. from what i understand some of this is a gun not only owned by a lot of people but there's a reason for that. it mimics military type weapon although to my knowledge, the military doesn't use is gone but has that look. it's got a very short recoil so when you fire it, as a novice more likely you're not getting hit by the concussion of the gun so much, other physical reasons why people wanted. >> katie: in ar-15 functions the exact same ways that semiautomatic handgun, one round per trigger pull. when you look at what people are saying about this particular firearm, it is in wide use. their people her own every day who don't use it for these purposes and must not forget that during the church massacre

in texas that we so recently, it was an nra certified instructors who use it ar-15 to stop the killing there. so there are two sides to the story when there are plenty of students on the other side that we are not hearing from who want more security in schools, who want their teachers to be armed which we've actually seen implemented in school districts across the country at a local level rather than having federal government attack an issue that really needs to be dealt with on a case-by-case. >> harris: it's interesting you bring up that because in ar-15 was also losing the las vegas massacre. >> lisa: i think at the basic level, there's an dis- and genuine. >> harris: i'm going to have to get some coffee but i need to bring this attention. on the left of your screen because we are going to continue to watch live events as they happen this hour, these are high school students from boca raton, florida, and they have just walked out of their high school and they are protesting for gun control against gun violence is what we are understanding, so again,

this is boca raton, florida, when we are getting these pictures live from the air obviously and as we get -- we're going to kind of rotate in a way from here was coral springs, florida, where you saw about 100 kids getting on the buses after a funeral for one of the victims of the school shooting last week, they are boarding and there's that picture again now. and they'll be headed to the state capital tallahassee. lisa boothe? >> lisa: i was going to say i was out of the democrat earlier today and she presented the argument that if we just remove the ar-15, we are not going to see some of these mass casualties. to katie's point, that is a completely disingenuous argument. after we go back and look at virginia tech which i mention this yesterday, i am from virginia, and friends from high school who attended virginia tech at the time. two handguns killed 32 people. you look at nice, france, a truck and kill 96 people i believe, solicit completely disingenuous argument and there's also this argument of congress needs to do more, government needs to do more but you look at the failures of the

system with the florida shooting whether it's the fact that the police went to the house 39 times, this was alerted to the fbi twice, he was reviewed by a mental health institute in florida. again, right down after breakdown of the system in plac place. >> harris: i have to ask you because in addition to your secret service work, you are an nypd officer and i know you and others i've talked to say domestic violence cases are the most deadly that you've ever faced in the field, externally unpredictable. >> dan: i got hit -- i got hit by an ironing board one time, the only time i ever got attacked at a domestic call. the guy literally picked up an iron cord and buckled us in half. the objection i have, i do some contribution work in the nra to be clear. i work for nra tv but the nra what is they have to do with this? they supported the expansion, they also supported the bum stock ban. >> jessica: and they withdrew that. there's about to advocate a move. after what happen. what they have to do about it is

the millions and millions of dollars that they pump into our political system. >> dan: where those dollars coming from? 5 million americans who believe in the second amendment. >> jessica: i believe in a second amendment as well. they should have their voice. >> dan: just planned parenthood, should they showed up to? >> jessica: planned parenthood, those dollars a month they are not, their medicaid dollars. >> dan: why can nra >> lisa: you can also provide better service. >> harris: let me back in here. i don't like where we're going here in terms of -- this is the argument that's being had. i know it is on washington on capitol hill and i would imagine across the nation as we look at live pictures of the students getting on buses to go to town and where the conversation needs to go.

on the one hand, we've got lawmakers including the president were willing to look at background checks. so if they're involved, they're involved because they've been requested to be and they came back with a "yes" on background checks. please correct me if i'm wrong. >> dan: criminals don't care about your gun laws. don't care about robbery laws, homicide laws, gun laws, or anything else. i don't know why you think a supply-side measure meant to limit criminals who simply cut them off the street and open them on a log. >> jessica: that's not what lynn nicholas cruz dead. the problem is the mental facility, they should've taken that gun away from him. >> dan: there were already laws. >> jessica: i started by saying i it was law enforcement. >> harris: so sensitivity or

lack thereof for mental health issues in the 39 visits to the house but the local police which is why i know when you go to a house 70 times from what you and others have told me, you know the intensity there but the fbi didn't take what guys like you would've told them then. >> dan: and now you want to institute more obstacles for legal gun owners. this is what's frustrating. >> harris: we will continue to have this conversation. the news is breaking this hour as a couple of things are happening. if you're watching on the screen your left, students and boca raton high school walking out of their high school to protest gun violence in a way it was coral springs, florida, after one of the victims was buried, the students are getting on buses to go to the states capital in tallahassee to meet with and discuss with lawmakers their ideas to make things safer in schools all across the state of florida and across the country i would imagine. stay close here on "outnumbered "outnumbered." new developments in robert mueller's investigation. a charge filed against an attorney for lying against his

last communication with former trump campaign aide rick gates who was indicted in october. what does this mean for the investigation? and new questions about the circumstances under which former national security advisor michael flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi. a judge is telling mueller to hand over any evidence that is favorable to flynn's defense but he wants a real close look at that case. the details next.

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>> katie: another new charge of the russian investigation. a prominent new york attorney expected to plead guilty this afternoon after special counsel robert mueller trusted him with lying to investigators about his former trump campaign aide rick gates who was indicted back in october. this comes amid a report that keats is planning to plead guilty to charges related to fraud and is willing to testify against longtime business partner home in a as part of the probe. white house deputy press secretary rush on reacting to the latest charge earlier today. >> we know this indictment just like the one on friday only reinforces her overarching point when it comes to the special counsel's investigation which is as the president has long

stated, there is no evidence of collusion because none existed. and there's going to be no findings of wrongdoing. an attorney representing one of the individuals who's already been indicted has nothing to do with actions related to its president. >> katie: so these charges seem to stem back to paul manafort's refusal and failure to register as a foreign agent in his work for the ukrainian government which is for pro-russian ukrainian political group but again, here we are with another charge. evidence of actual collusion, we have a time of felonious to the umpteenth degree. what's going on here? and a constitutional republic, we don't target people. we target crime. what happens to a federal agent of people would walk in the secret service agent where i work and say we want to investigate katie pavlich for what, something, she ripped a mack tag off once.

the point is, we don't investigate people. don't do witch hunts because the problem with government witch hunts as they always find a witch. and it's clear as day to me now, a federal agent that we are absolutely looking at trump. they are not looking at collusion because there is none. nobody's pled guilty to conspiracy to collude yet. >> harris: so no doubt you guys are reading because it's out there, there are conservatives who feel very strongly that the president should just be pertinent to pardon anybody in this investigation including himself because of the reasons that you just listed. >> dan: let's be clear though, the metaphor thing has absolutely zero to do with trump. it has to do with his business dealings in ukraine. but do you flynn thing which is a total complete debacle.

>> katie: they're not necessarily calling it an indictment, also in trouble for not turning over a series of emails and documents the special counsel which seems like a pretty basic thing to do if you're being asked to be part of this investigation. >> jessica: they usually know what this means when they say turn over all your documents. to dan's point here, what i would say is now this investigation has gotten far more wide-ranging then certainly it began. it came out of potential obstruction of justice because of what donald trump said to jim comey allegedly in the oval office and the loyalty pledges. now we are looking at collusion, and also looking at financial issues relating to trump businesses. it's getting a lot broader. worked with the russians to tilt the election, we have gotten broader than that. that doesn't mean that paul manafort, you're kind of okay with him going away. this is someone who we knew that a problem.

>> katie: what about that point of because what all has come out of the special counsel so far is irrelevant to the trump campaign? to harris' point about how the president has reacted to this, don't these continuing referrals or indictments unrelated to the campaign further proof the president's point that this is a political witch hunt rather than a serious investigation of collusion? >> lisa: i do think that and we also found out it was hillary clinton in the dnc funding the dossier, that was a massive blow to the democrats argument of collusion because we found out it was in fact democrats who were paying russian sources via christopher steele for information but to jessica's point, if you're concerned with abuses, the fair act which is failing to register as a foreign agent of another country, are you also concerned with fusion gps which many individuals including chuck grassley, the chairman of the shish erie committee is called n simpson and fusion gps agents of russia as well, are you concerned with that?

>> katie: when she was talking about the fbi. >> jessica: seeing a big problem because of how the dossier got funded and we debated the carter page prize award before. personally finding out that the pfizer warned would be on other dossier and there was that, that doesn't bother me. you've never seen it redacted. it was only based on the dossie dossier. >> lisa: i'm going to say that so no and my question to her. >> jessica: is great they testified. >> lisa: meanwhile, new questions about the circumstances under which former national security advisor michael flynn came to the fbi. that may have been previously withheld. sullivan took over the case and issued the order after the

previous judge put flynn's guilty plea back in december and recuse himself less than a week later. the recusal was likely due to the fact that he also served on the fisa court that approved the controversial application allowing surveillance of the trump campaign by the fbi. here's fox news sr. judicial analyst judge upon the follow. >> why would he want that after general flynn has already pleaded guilty? that is unheard of. he must suspect the defect in the guilty plea. meaning, he must have reason to believe that general flynn pleaded guilty for some reason other than guilt. lay off my son, and i don't want to have to mortgage my house again. so give me something to plead guilty to let this can be over with. if the government accepted the guilty plea knowing he wasn't guilty, but lawyers involved a very serious problem. >> lisa: i also want to couple it with the fact that this comes

on the heels about the fact that congressional investigators are very concerned about flynn because comey had told them that they believed that -- comey think that he had viper that's the impression that fbi investigators gathered from their conversations with him. so what do you make of that and then also judge napolitano statement? >> dan: this is the problem i have with civil liberty advocates on the left. i have never in my time in government service afterward seen a case of government abuse as a rank as the mike flynn prosecution. the head of the fbi is on the record, the fbi agents in the room. i know the other guy's two. in the room, so that they thought flynn was truthful as well. let me get this straight, you are charging him with lying to the fbi despite that they are in the room. but that that he thought it was

truthful. how does that make sense to you. i don't want to hear this garbage is line. he played guilty. he is an agent for 12 years. people plead guilty all the time. sometimes they plead guilty when they're guilty of lesser things to get out of the financial burden to stop the penalty against them, to get a lesser sentence. saying that is absurd. i think the government when after flynn. or to protect their child. i think sally yates, deputy attorney general at the time with this logan act is going to have a lot of explaining to do. >> katie: it's one thing for flynn's attorneys withheld important information in the case, it's another thing for an independent judge to look at the case and say it's very clear that he withheld some pretty important information when it comes to defense of this guide. that definitely gives the claim from the flynn attorneys much more credibility when it comes to moving forward on that. >> harris: 's particular judge has done this before. in his history, he likes to take

a look at things. this is what you said you wanted, but are potentially look at the evidence. they decide it can be released in some form or they could to say because everything leaks unfortunately. they make it to see kind of what led them down this road and if there's anything that's more clear to general flynn will know about it. and what does that say about the investigation? >> dan: the secret service, we didn't interview. we take notes and we type it up later but it wasn't really a formal form at the time. if the fbi has a formal form to summarize that interview. those interview notes with mike flynn were changed to reflect a different opinion, than the opinion of the agents of that room. i wouldn't be surprised if someone or someone in the fbi may be subject themselves to criminal prosecution themselves.

>> lisa: he was the one that served as the reversal of the charge against senators ted stevens as well. >> harris: he wanted to look at the total evidence. >> lisa: moving on, sparkling students are bound to head to their state capital to lobby their lawmakers, resident trump is back at the white house. he's being criticized by some for not talking about gun control in the wake of the shooting. that killed 17 people in florida. tomorrow, he will hold a listening session with the kids parents, teachers, affected by the school students. another meeting is planned for this thursday whether he is being unfairly criticized or more that he can do. stay tuned.

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>> harris: students who survived the deadly shooting in four to get ready to board a bus. trump is back in the white house. some are criticizing him for not talking about gun control after the parkland massacre but the white house says the president

is open to tightening background checks and is planning to hold a listening session tomorrow to hear concerns from the students and teachers. it is not clear who will participate in that. thursday, he is set to meet with state and local officials to talk about school safety. here's more from pismo deputy white house press secretary raj shah. >> the listening session tomorrow is about hearing from students, from parents, from teachers and others who are affected by these types of horrific tragedies to really hear what they feel and what they confront on a daily basis. will make them feel safe. also going to be meeting on thursday in which the president is going to hear from local law enforcement among school officials and others more on the policy side of the local level were dealing with this. >> harris: the president also talking about increasing school safety when he meets this weekend with the national governors association. so we go back to this and kind

of a different way because the conversation will bring in teenagers and students and teachers. how do you see it going from here? >> dan: i don't know if it's going to be common ground on this but let me tell you why. i believe there are ways going forward and you're never going to prevent all this but the incidence of these horrific tragedies. the problem is neither side of this debate trust the other side. i'm not making this politically convenient but i blame a lot of it on liberals because if you look at the social media, their first attack was you guys are accomplices to murder if you guys support gun control and secondly, they say things like we don't want to confiscate your gums but we want to do what they did in australia which is confiscate guns. so how can we have a reasonable conversation? i'm not saying we don't get passionate. i dropped some explosive stuff on twitter as well. but just be honest about what you want. >> harris: can i ask you a question because i know that you were up at in the nra tv. we are talking about the nra

earlier. if we put guns aside in this conversation, can we put guns aside in this conversation? there's so much more there in terms of what got missed, in terms of where this young man was. and how you fit the gun control >> dan: is a constitutional right. you can't stop it in advance. in other words, we have the right to free speech, but yield fire in the movie theater but no one stops you before you walk into a movie theater and said are you going to scream fire in a movie theater oath you can go in. >> harris: but law enforcement didn't come to my house 39 times and that the fbi no. that's the difference. i just want to get on board with that because you have a different type of relationship with the nra so it's interesting to get your perspective. >> katie: i just say i'm a lifetime member of the nra to for full disclosure. there are a lot of nra members

who are teachers who have children who feel very, very differently than the media and bipartisan as well. there are a number of people in the nra who been accused by the media, by the left, by politicians on capitol hill of being child murderers and thinking that shooting children is a sport when they have children too. they were teachers and schools and they feel like they are sitting ducks every single day because they've been legislated into being in a position where the only thing they can attack children with their bodies and that's what they want changed as well. >> lisa: this also would -- how it can out, an article by the national journal in the wake of the biggest shooting and he pointed out the fact that we were hearing from liberal democrats running in red states about gun control. jackie rosen i believe the last name who is running the las vegas democrat running against dean heller statewide said that no gun policy would

change these. so is not just arborist. you have a completely different perspective on this then someone asked katie. you both hail from completely different places in the country so this isn't just a left issue. it's much deeper than this and i think that it's also part of the problem and trying to derive solutions as well. >> jessica: we have an enormous vast country. >> harris: allow me just for a second because whenever i see a camera choke up like this on a post up i would like to see what's happening on the center of the screen. just to explain to everybody, coral springs, florida, there was a funeral that has happened for one of the students, one of the people who died in the school shooting and students come out to board the buses clearly the situation no coming up with a little bit different than it was a few minutes ago, that might be because the shot is tightening because those buses are expected to pull away in the next 20 minutes or so. i just want to make the point that's what we're watching. >> jessica: i just wanted to add the country as a enormous,

320 million people here who will have incredibly different experiences and different attitudes towards these issues but the point about the constitution, a number of amendments to the constitution that have made our nation better. and our founding fathers could not have predicted what happened last week and parkland they certainly did not think that's how weapons are going to be used. so i think having a thoughtful conversation about gun control and mental health and law enforcement and all of it is productive. there was a piece that i read about other nations that see the constitution is a living breathing document because we have to update for the times and we have ethical advances. we treat people as equals now when they used to be. women can vote now. there's a lot how that has changed. what amazing? i'm not. i would encourage everyone to read bret stephens piece on thi this. it was calling out liberals hypocrisy. it says just say it. if you don't want the second amendment anymore, don't come out and say i really respect it.

it just said be honest. that's my point about it. if you don't want guns anymore, just be honest and say that. >> katie: i just want to address your point of arguing that the founding fathers could have never seen this was going to happen. the thing about the constitution and the amendments and bill of rights as it applies equally to everyone. in the first amendment. the damages that has done to its society and the discourse that we have in this country, he can make the same argument. the first amendment doesn't exist without the second. it's being weaponize in some way. if we have are stretches of the first memo just like we do want to second amendment but to act like leg we do have control his country and that nothing is being done is just not true. they do 25 million background checks every single year. the mental health authorities said that he was fine.

the bigger question -- >> harris: the local police, guys like dan bongino would have the full skinny. >> lisa: would've prevented previous mass shootings or future feet shootings. >> harris: i've got to go. that means to our audiences we want to bring in these live pictures when they happen but also keep this incredible conversation going. you guys are amazing. a very wide ranging. i hope you're paying attention. amid president trump's war of words with the media, now he is preparing to dine with reporters next month in his first gridiron dinner after skipping the event last year. so what can we expect and does the signal and move, a potential fall with the media over the battle continue? stay close. oh, that's lovely...

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>> katie: admit the ongoing tension between the white house and the media, president trump all slated to attend the gridiron dinner bring together prominent washington journalists and politicians. if the president skipped the event last year but politico is reporting "trumps the prize decision to purchase paid in a ritual maintains his desire to maintain some sense of spectrum decorum and was welcomed by some veteran gridiron club members." also likely to renew questions about whether journalists should break bread with the president given his antipress rhetoric. earlier, white house spokesman address of the president may enjoy taking a few shots of the press during the roast. >> it should be a fun night. the president is up to the challenge and hopefully he will give it to the media is good if not better as they been giving it to him. >> is he backing away from the

air of fake news? >> absolutely not. i think every day, we see a new headline that isn't true. the president might even spend his time with them microphone pointing that out. don't want to get to the plan jokes when he takes the microphone. >> katie: fake news accusations are here to stay. he remains unclear if he will attend this white house correspondents dinner which is televised. the floor is yours. >> harris: someone just hit me as a journalist and we are in two more words, not fewer. we get hit with things that hurt our heart and we could hit by things that make us angry and has the president said anything that is not free-speech? >> katie: it's in the same category. >> harris: he is the president of the united states. i would think that they would be jumping at a chance sit down with him, do whatever paired the choices down his if he wants to sit down with all of us. he's never missed a chance for an opportunity. every time he goes, you better

build in some extra time in your lunch hour because the president might have something to say to the press. so i'm a little confused when i hear journalist talking about kind of pushing against this president. they may not agree with him and so then i scratch my head too because why should we know that a journalist doesn't agree with the president of the united states? so i just have so much to say. >> jessica: the president tells you, the way that he calls out individuals is very different than those in the past who didn't agree. >> harris: when he has found things to be incorrect. the media, these media outlets, and everybody has a printing press in their building, have come out to correct their steps. i wouldn't even call the abc networks meaning abc the output network, not that particular one who had to go on record and correct their mistakes. thank you mr. president for putting us back on even ground. >> lisa: there's also this argument from the left in the mainstream media of somehow how president trump's stifling axes

but as harris just laid out, he is letting them in on meetings that previous presidents never did before. constantly, let the cameras rol roll. >> katie: i want to get to dan because we have to wrap up here. what about this media being so buddy buddy one night with the president? under obama, they loved it. they were so happy he was there but with trump. >> dan: i worked for three presidents. bill clinton, george w. bush, and barack obama and you are absolutely right. they should be kissing this guy. their ratings aren't up and nobody has given more access to the media than donald trump. they just don't like him. >> katie: moving right along. we'll see how the dinner goes. a big special election next month, both parties shifting into high gear, weather will be about whether to the upcoming midterms. we will talk about it. . and this is laura's mobile dog grooming palace.

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>> lisa: welcome back. republican groups are pushing to avoid a democratic upset in pennsylvania special election next month and a pittsburgh area district. republican facing off against democrat connor lance and district president trump won handily in 2016. the polls like this one showing

the race in a virtual dead heat with the three-point lead within a margin of error. he has been campaigning as a moderate. president trump has endorsed the republican candidate tweeting just last month that he gets his total support to rick saying he's a great guy and many more republicans to continue our already successful agenda. the president was said to attend a campaign rally tomorrow but it was postponed in the wake of the florida shooting. i'm going to start with you. so the national democrats have not invested a ton of resources into the special election. i think you see a little over $300,000. why is that the case? spaces are national organizations are not fund-raising nearly as well as individuals are. people are giving to candidates that they like and to caucuses that they like. so connor lam support is coming from people in pennsylvania, coming from individual donors who like what they are seeing. >> lisa: do think that part of

the reason is the fact that there's an enormous amount of resources invested in georgia, and perhaps the national democrats realize that this will likely go in that direction of a race that they're going to win? >> jessica: i'm not sure. there has been a general disenchantment with our national organizations going on for a while. and the whole scandal around the emails and i think people feel a lot better about their dollars going directly to those people in those causes that they support. >> harris: dan has run for office. >> lisa: i have a question i really want to answer from you. i think one part of concern for republicans is at the monmouth university poll, 50% of democrats were paying attention to this race, only 26% of republicans so i do think there's an enthusiasm concern in the midterm election. he ran for office. what do republicans need to do to tap into that base to get them to turn out in the midterm? >> dan: there's always going to be an anti-incumbent wing.

if you saw the blue state republican governor took over and i came in within one point which would've been an enormous congressional upset. i can candidly tell you what i like to think i was some wonderful candidate, i thought it was okay. but there was a lot of anti-democrat sentiment. first of all, thank you. the problem that democrats are going to have in the midterms, the biggest problem is we really want to be the party of collusion that didn't happen in crumbs? i'm asking a genuine question. what do they actually stand for outside of we hate trump, show up because you're angry? i couldn't tell you that. maybe you have a better idea. >> jessica: i do have a better idea. i think that the headline is a lot of what joe kennedy was talking about his reaction to the state of the union which is about being a party that emphasizes the quality of the g.o.p. tax proposal is helping people and we said crumbs is not good for us.

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>> katie: thanks to dan bongino. you will be at cpac. you are heading down to d.c. >> thanks, you will be there too. >> katie: i will be there.

>> jessica: i got no invite. >> katie: up to harris for outnumbered overtime. >> harris: thank you very much. we will pick it up here. a growing political storm after last week's deadly florida school shootings. going outmurder overtime here i'm harris faulkner. just minutes from now 100 students, survivors of the massacre after attend ago funeral for one of their classmates will be boarding buses headed to the state capital in tallahassee. they will be meeting with state officials ahead of a rally tomorrow demanding tougher gun legislation. some florida students staging a walkout to protest gun violence in another area of florida moments ago. let's go live now to steve harrigan who is live in corls springs, florida. everybody is starting to get on the buses. i understand that you had the opportunity to talk with one of those students. >> harris, right here public shopping center parking lot. can you see around me a crowd of students and parent. a lot of them holding sleeping bags