excellent student who love the beach and playing with her young cousins. may they rest in peace two. the story for tonight, i am martha maccallum. tucker is up next. ♪ >> tucker: good evening, welcome to "tucker carlson tonight," the news gets weirder. one certainty in the news business, robert mueller's investigation claimed another victim today, someone you have not heard of. he has dutch attorney alex van der zwaan. he worked for the law form, one of the biggest firms in the country. and included work for ukrainian president victor janne kovic, work that was arranged by lobbyist paul manafort. it appears that he weaponized a number of american law firms on half of his ukrainian client. he is paying the price for that

tonight, so why is any of this matter exactly? none of it as anything to do with donald trump, the 2016 election. it turns out as some of us predicted, robert mueller's investigation has taken often unpredictable directions. indictments like the one today expose the truth about to the foreign influence. other countries do subvert our democracy, but not without vast conspiracies, those are fake and delusional actually, the real threats, and it is real is foreign lobbying and influence buying. foreign interests push push us to sign trade deals to pass specific laws, too often they succeed in that. that is a diversion to what we were promised, american government made by americans. paid by foreign influences everywhere, hiding in plain sight, virtually everyone in washington implicated in some way that may explain why whenever he mentions it. paul manafort is a republican, a

modesto group that helped him lobby was a democratic firm, one of the biggest. the head of the team working on the account was greg craig, one the most famous democratic operations. the white house counsel, before that a key assistant to bill clinton for years played a huge player in democratic circles. is dave craig one of the new targets? we cannot say, but what is obvious is that this investigation is no longer about the 2016 election. mueller is imposing on the real scandal in washington, the one that the media ignored for decades, the real foreign influence scandal. and if that is the case, god bless them. fox news political analyst joins us tonight. >> hi, tucker. >> tucker: what is the significance of a another indictment for lying? speak of the first thing that struck me about it was that this

man is accused of a crime that happened during the course of the investigation, which is to o investigation, no crime. this is absolutely typical of what we have a special counsel and independent counsel investigations. they end up as often as not being after people for what happened during the investigation and not so much for the event or the crime or the issue for which the investigation was started in the first place. and that is where we are here in this case. that is also true of the papadopoulos indictment. and also likewise true that to the paul manafort and associated charges were about things that happened before the campaign, which was supposed to be the principal subject events during the campaign and the principal of the investigation, as he pointed out earlier, tucker, we are ready for here from the original purpose of the

investigation, which if you are right, may be a good thing. but it is also giving you an idea of what a wide-ranging and largely unaccountable force a special counsel investigation can be. >> tucker: imagine if mueller decided in the course of this investigation to broaden his aim to uncover the extensive web of foreign influence on our policy, not our elections, but how we make laws and trade deals et cetera. you know from spending your life here that it is extensive. that would be in an enormous investigation, would it not be? >> it would be an enormous investigation. i'm not sure that i agree with you about to the extent of the influence. it seems like looking through the runoffs that i have seen through the military investigation and major policy changes that they have been widely debated in most cases and i am thinking about the debates that i witnessed on the floor of the house and the senate about these matters. i am must say to you, tucker, maybe i'm blind, but i do not

remember the dark influences on senators i saw. i watch them debate the main elements that you would expect to be spoken of in the course -- >> tucker: but you can see this, everyone who lives here know that a ton of people, a legitimately a lot of people taking money from foreign governments to influence our policy. that is not an unusual thing to do for a living here. >> it is certainly true that a law firms and lobbying firms that do business in washington are often hired by foreign clients and foreign interests. that is no particular mystery. and that is out in the open. the question that i think that it raises is how really influential are they? and based on what i have witnessed, i'm not sure that they are terribly influential. i might add to that that speaking about things that are not terribly influential, you can look at the charges that

mueller has brought to the case about the 13 indictments of russian individuals that came out last week it does not add up to very much, not very much money and not as we can tell very much influence. and of course these are 13 individuals who almost will never be prosecuted. they are russians and vladimir putin will not be disposed to extradite them to the united states for mueller's charges. so there we are in that. >> tucker: there we are on that. brit hume, great to see you. suggesting that russia and other countries have been meddling in the country for some time, there is an obvious question that has been dismissed, but a real one, what about the last administration? they knew about this. why did they not do anything about it? where was the fbi, the editor at large for dailymail.com, we are happy to have them tonight. piers morgan, you are looking at

this from an advantage, and you think of them as a law enforcement it always gets its man, have you revised your take on the fbi over the last year? >> well, i've revised it in the last week, one of the worst ever weeks and the fbi and its 198 years of history. i will tell you why, two reasons. take the russian investigation. donald trump is president of the united states now and has been for over a year, but there remain zero evidence that says that he colluded with anyone from russia in an attempt to fix the u.s. election. now mueller may have some secret evidence, but he is not provided it. there is no evidence with trump to any collusion. well, okay, we know that it is russian meddling, we do not know the scale. but it may be reasonably small and not that significant. but there was meddling, you would expect that. but whose job was that it to deal with the meddling?

that would be the previous president, barack obama who from 2014 when the meddling started, it was his job and on his watch. and he has 17 intelligence agents led by the fbi, and it is their responsibility, in my view to investigate and to stop and to close down the kind of meddling that we saw from the use russians. and that simply did not happen. so i would say if you combined that performance by the fbi in terms of the russian investigation or lack of it that was going on, and then you look at what happened with the mass shooting this week in florida. this is one of the most spectacular ball drops that i have ever seen from any intelligence agency. the fbi were worn twice. once that this guy posted on a blog or common tree that he was going to be a school shooter. nikolas cruz, spelt in a unusual way. they were not able to trace

him, and he had a block around -- background check. they could've found him in 5 minutes. four months to the start of january, and then we have the most extraordinary situation where it turns out to that somebody very close to the shooter phoned the fbi tip line designed for tips about crime and potential crime and said that this guy is dangerous, he is heavily armed. we think that he may shoot up the school. and to the fbi did not even refer it to its head office in miami. it did not even see it despite having two warnings that this guy might be armed, dangerous, unstable, mentally ill, and prepared to shoot a school up. putting those two things together, and i'm sorry, this is a pretty poor performance by the fbi leading me to conclude in my column today that will be better off call the calling them the federal bureau of incompetence.

>> tucker: i think your interpretation is right, you add to that to the las vegas shooting, we have no understanding of why that happened, and there is a trail of incompetence by law enforcement, so here's my question, given all of that, i think your position is a reasonable one, why is that the people who say that are denounced as unpatriotic by media figures? why is it unpatriotic to question federal agents? >> it is interesting, isn't it? i think the partisan nature is so extreme on both sides to a large degree. the anti-trump theory in particular means that people are not able to see the woods through the trees. i come from a different country, i come to this with a clear open mind. i wrote 36 columns about donald trump to daily mail last year. 18 were supported in 18 were critical. and the reason is impartial voice in the debate. i would say to all of those who

do not want any criticism of barack obama to what happen with the russian meddling or with the fbi to the meddling in the investigation into the shooter, take a good long look at yourselves, because if this happens with donald trump, let's reverse it. let's say that donald trump had been the president when all of this meddling was actually going on. and we knew it was going on. there will be absolute outrage that he had not stopped it. so it is legitimate to look at barack obama and say, where were you when this meddling was happening on your watch? and the answer is that he and the fbi seemed far more exercised to be investigating other technology in terms of emails, hillary clinton, services on, quite legitimately. but where they basically taking their eye off the ball and not focusing on what is probably for the american country far more serious, which is the sister russia meddling through american companies like facebook, twitter, google, and others,

using and if lucidly meant diffusing them to interrupt to the thinking. >> tucker: you cannot argue simultaneously that there was a big deal and obama is blameless. i agree with that. pierce morgan, thank you. good to see you tonight. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: the horrifying shooting in parkland, florida is putting new demands on bands of firearms, what is being pushed this time, would it make you safer, your children safer? we will tell you, next. ♪ ♪ when you have a cold, stuff happens. [ dog groans ] [ coughs and sneezes ] nothing relieves more symptoms than alka seltzer plus maximum strength liquid gels.

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in parkland, florida, has not supposedly sparked a new push on the left to take guns away from american citizens. in the new call is for a ban on so-called assault rifles, a and precise term that includes ar-15s. fans of any type are not popular, but many are upset that if it promised to save lives? would an assault weapons ban and prevent future shootings? that is the key question. luckily we do not need to guess on the answer. we already had an assault weapons ban for ten years starting in 1994. that law when it was written mandated a comprehensive study of the effectiveness which was produced. so we have a definitive answer. according to the justice department, the assault weapons ban passed in 1994 had no effect on crime rates. none, nobody was saved by it. that should not be surprising if you know the numbers, because despite the hype, rifles are not

the weapon of choice for the overwhelming majority of killers in america. in 2015, the most recent year which we have data, rifles were used in a total of 252 homicides in america. by comparison, old-fashioned knives, sharpened metal was used in 1500 killings, blunt objects killed 437. 624 murders were committed with bare hands and feet. the actual numbers on that from the government. the sciences and on this as conclusive, and the very people who tell you that they still believe in science and you don't do not care about the science. they are still trying to ban ar-15s. to the new legislation in the assault weapons ban of 2017, produced by several democratic senators would outlaw the manufacture, the sale, the transfer of more than 200 "military style assault weapons." what is a military style assault weapon? anyone that has features like a detachable magazine, a pistol

grip, a forward grip, a folding stock or the burial shroud, presumably made because of its purpose is shrouded in mystery for the people that propose banning it. they have no idea what that is. most are cosmetic features, they do in mount make them more deadly, they make them look more scary. and that is enough. none of this nonsense would limit mass killings. the people pushing a do not believe it would have that effect. they will admit that, because it is impossible to deny it. the numbers are in. the real problem is they have is loathing the second amendment, like the first amendment they no longer believe in. they think that you do not have a right to own a gun and working hard to make sure that you cannot own a gun. it is not about safety, it is control. here new york city council member, running for lieutenant governor, joining us tonight. counsel williams, thank you for joining us. >> it is good time to talk about gun safety. >> tucker: it is a good time

to talk about gun safety. i think it is always a good time. we had an assault weapons ban much like the ones that democrats and the senate are proposing. we had it for ten years, and we know, because it was studied exhaustively that it saved no lives. what is the motive and re-imposing the law? >> i noticed on your data coming he did not put that 90,000 americans are shot, 30,000 killed by guns every single yea year. -- >> which percent are suicides? >> people are acting like that matters. >> tucker: it does matter, the majority are suicides. >> that would mean that 10,000 are murdered. and two which is critical and important. the presence of the gun increases a successful suicide percentage. so that is important. >> tucker: suicide side note, you are suddenly against suicide when it is committed by a gun?

>> i want to make sure that we are all clear, your massive inflation is all good. >> tucker: you cannot to note that two-thirds of the deaths were self-inflicted. i'm not for suicide, but i'm sure that you are, but i want to be clear with our viewers -- >> i want to be clear and say that the lives of suicide also matter and the 10,000 murders should be counted as well. >> tucker: i'm not for a gun and killing of any kind, my only point is that legislators make laws and they do so in the hope that they will have the intended effect. and we know from ten years of experience that an assault weapons ban does not work. there is no debate, the doj came to the conclusion after studying it. why would we want it again? >> the real question is and it is to you, tucker. do you believe that we should not have unscented access to guns in this country? >> tucker: i do not know what that means, uncover lawmakers

who are trying to impose laws on the rest of us and i try to assess whether those laws are effective. >> if we are both being honest -- >> tucker: i am being honest. >> we have to start it a point where people agree. should we have unvented access to guns in the country? >> i do not know what that means, we do not have unfettered access. that is viscerally overstated. >> that is the question that i'm trying to get to you so that we can have a conversation about what to do after we have agreed with that. >> tucker: rather to get into this scary world -- >> it is not scary. >> tucker: those words do not mean much. let's get into the specifics of the legislation that to the left, the democratic party is pushing now. guns that have a burial shroud ought to be prohibited, outlawed, banned. my question is wide? why would the barrel shroud to make the gun more dangerous? >> that is the wrong question. >> tucker: this is the question that is here.

>> and it works, because you are giving people the resume -- >> tucker: it is not responding to me, i'm responding to a piece of proposed legislation proposed by your allies in the democratic party, and i'm asking you about the details of the legislation pretty were propose banning guns that had pistol grips and barrel shroud's and bayonets gloves. what is this? >> what you do well is focused on something. >> tucker: focusing on facts. >> i want to focus on the real question that you refuse to answer, whether or not this country should have on fetid access to guns. >> tucker: the answer is no, we do not allow a 9-year-old's guns. >> that is the answer. the question is what should we do, because when you look at something like a car that was made just to transport people and accidentally kills people, we have tremendous amount of regulation.

you need insurance, you have to have training. >> tucker: cars are not tremendously regulated. >> a gun that is made to kill people, you have to have training to purchase a gun in this country -- >> tucker: are you going to address the actual law proposed by actual democrats in the actual u.s. senate or no? >> the country that has 50% of all civilian guns in the world and 4% of the population, are you willing to admit that that has something to do with the gun violence in the country? >> tucker: i am dealing in the realm of social science and facts. here's what we do agree on. i want to start -- we are both responding from school shootings, but the fact that you are unwilling to address the spe legislation suggests to me that your real name is not reducing gun violence, but something, i would say, hit in. >> not at all.

>> tucker: that is probably your aim. >> i'm running for governor, because in new york city, i have been a leading voice among others reducing gun violence by 22%. what have you done to reduce gun violence in the country? >> tucker: i don't know. >> exactly my point. and you have a purge, you should be responsible. you need to be responsible -- >> tucker: i am responsible, because i deal in facts, while you deal in mindless generalizations. >> people should not have unfriended access to guns in the country. >> tucker: i don't know who gave you the talking points, but you should fire him. >> there will be people that always respond to me and i am happy because i came on the show. >> tucker: you ought to get off of twitter and do something for the state of new york. you have too much free time, get off of twitter! >> i told you what i did.

>> tucker: thank you, congressman. councilman, rather. boy, gave him a job boost. secret service team joins us tonight, so there is a huge controversy online that i am hesitant to waive in on, but i think that it needs to be addressed and over the protests led by the students for whom all of us feel terrible, you cannot imagine anything worse than your kids school getting shot up, but all of the sudden you are seeing these kids involved in calls from very specific pieces of legislation. in the allegation has been that they are in some way in contact with antigun movements, and they've been denounced as a moral and heartless and how how dare you attack them, which i am not doing, but it raises interesting questions about how we make our laws. >> what is interesting about this is that i am with you 100%, if you are involved in a horrific unimaginable tragedy, your voice should be heard, but

what i find ironic is a couple of things. number one, where their voices are most valuable are not on the components that the media is paying attention to. supply side measures to get funds. where their voices would be valuable are where are the signs missed? they were there and they dealt with this kid every day, but the media has focused more on a teenager's expertise in supply side control measures for guns, which, tucker, let's be candid, they have not studied in complicated layered issue. they absolutely unequivocally have the right, we want to hear their voices, but the media is focusing on an agenda and not ironically where the kids -- >> tucker: they are using these kids in a moral blackmail where you are not allowed to disagree or you are attacking the child, which of course the last thing that i would ever do as a father of four. i would never attack a kid. you can disagree with other people's opinions without

attacking them. but the press is conflating that. >> did you notice the doublespeak as well? when it comes to things like immigration rights, they do not seek subject matter expertise from parents who have been killed by illegal immigrants. when it comes to the victims of terrorist attacks, to be candid here, i get it, they can say that the republicans come out and they submit about -- we gave them a voice and we followed up with a subsequent law. but the media will not do the same. they will give these kids a platform to talk about these legislative issues, but they will not give anyone else on an issue that does not fit their agenda the exact same. >> tucker: prepay propaganda, i guess what i disagree with is the idea that anybody with an alternative view is removed from the conversation. that is the play. >> it is all critical theory stuff. it is meant to minimize -- it

wins the argument before it starts by making sure that tucker carlson is a bad guy, therefore whatever he says is therefore unworthy. >> tucker: that is so smart. i wish that i would express it as crisply as you did. that was good. i'm impressed. thank you, dan. washington is focused on russia and daca. as we look away from the capital city, the rest of america has come to shocking footage of the richest city as he was not have not seen it before. ♪ puts me at greater risk for heart attack or stroke. can one medicine help treat both blood sugar and cardiovascular risk? i asked my doctor. she told me about non-insulin victoza®. victoza® is not only proven to lower a1c and blood sugar, but for people with type 2 diabetes treating their cardiovascular disease, victoza® is also approved to lower the risk

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>> tucker: here in washington the focus is on russia, daca or plans to regulate guns -- we want to show you drawing footage of just last month in orange county, carl bloom and california. showing one of the vast homeless encampments that has become routine in southern california paid watch this. ♪ ♪

♪ >> tucker: it goes on like that for miles, literally for miles. and that is not the only place in america where you can find it. it is all over the country, almost 12,000 homeless people in seattle, most without shelter, l.a. county has posted 60,000 homeless people. to drive around, if you have not done so, you will be shocked. most do not look like slums, they are literally becoming slums. the bay area investigation, one of the richest cities in the world, surveyed 130 blocks in downtown san francisco, trash literally every single block. 41 blocks had needles on the ground, 96 with piles of human, it is repulsive. trash, drugs, homeless. the daily life in the richest big cities. formerly run by progressives, the generation of mass

immigration, sanctuary cities, police were supposed to make everybody prosperous. it looks like port-au-prince. it is awful, nobody mentions it. the democrat representing ohio, to his great credit to embarking on the cross country cities tour to investment in these cities. uni disagreed on a lot the last time you were on, we got in a shouting match. i am impressed that you are doing this, i want to hear about it, i think our viewers will too, you are one of the few people that seems to notice what is happening, so tell us what you are doing to make it better. >> i appreciate that, tucker. yes, it's always fun being on with you. we have about 80% of venture capital money in the united states that goes to three states, california, new york, and massachusetts. about 10% goes to women, less than 2% goes to hispanics command less than 2% goes to

african-americans. what we are trying to do starting tomorrow is a comeback cities tour that starts in youngstown, ohio. we are bringing 12 venture capitalists, some of the biggest in the country that invest in airbnb and uber and spotify. we are going to get on a bus, go to akron, ohio, south bend, indiana, and put these venture capitalists in the room with emerging companies and emerging communities to try to reconnect some of the industrial midwest in the south. >> tucker: good for you. i've two ideas that i want to run by you. the first is simple, so huge american charitable foundations. the rockefeller foundation sending a lot of money abroad. do you think that it would be worth encouraging them to turn their sites domestically and use some of that money to tax free and help american cities?

>> absolutely. i think a lot of the money that they invest globally is very important, because we do want to prevent disease and to lift people up and get people out of poverty. a lot of that money is very important. but we are trying to build a new way of doing this, using public, private partnership. in washington right now you either think that the government is the problem or you think that to the government is the solution, and it is an either or when the reality is that it is a balance in the middle. it is, okay, what can the government do property, efficiently? when investment can they make in the parks, bike trails, riverwalk scum of the infrastructure that you need, but at the end of the day that government cannot hire everybody, so you need that private sector to create the jobs and work about how to strike that balance. >> tucker: here is something that to the government can do,

move a lot to the states, why isn't the trance partition department in detroit, why are they all here? the richest area in the country in the world? why not do that? >> i actually have a bill that puts the commission together to look at exactly what agencies you could move out of washington, d.c., and into the heart to land or the south and the communities that need it. there are 300,000 federal employees that work in washington, d.c., think if you could get 100,000 of those out of d.c., you could put 1000 federal jobs and 100 communities or you could put 500 federal jobs in the 200 different communities in the youngstown, gary, indiana, biloxi, mississippi and really rebuild and heal some of these communities and make them go into the downtown distressed communities, now you're starting to build out your tax face for your schools and your income

tax. and a lot of development but the increase in taxes, data local community can then float bonds d they can take the money and build out the public space with the new revenue, it is a win-win-win. employees who make 60 or $70,000 a year which is a heck of a lot more money, whatever the case may be, a lot more and a place like gary, indiana, or akron then it is in washington, d.c. >> thank you for that. good to see you. afghanistan has lasting more than four times as americans involved in world war ii, is there any hope for getting out? eric prince is here with the latest from afghanistan. ♪ ♪ oh, why you look so sad, ♪ the tears are in your eyes,

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>> tucker: america has been at war in afghanistan for more than 6000 days. put that in perspective, napoleon bonaparte seized control of france, crowned himself emperor, defeated four solutions against him, and exile return, and exile begin all in less time than the u.s. has spent trying to create democracy out of afghanistan's mountainous waste. is there any hope for bringing about the long-term resolution, erik prince might know. a former navy seal, thank you for coming on. how do we get out of afghanistan? >> all of the metrics are in the wrong direction. more tell the ban, more violence, 40 afghans on average per day are dying. how do we get out? we go back to the original intelligence led effort like we did right after 9/11. a hundred or so soft guys backed by air power with some local tribes devastated the taliban, when we went to a army approach,

we are back ever since. spending more than the u.k. defense budget or more than the entire dhs budget in afghanistan. >> tucker: more than the entire u.k. budget in the country? >> $52 billion. >> tucker: and the net gain has been? >> we are losing the people, we are losing afghans, a lot of military equipment torn up, and it is just a continuous loop of insanity. the president has an opportunity, he campaigned against endless wars. he had an opportunity, got rolled by the very conventional generals around him last summer. i think hopefully he pays closer attention this next time around, because it is not working. >> tucker: if you were in that position as chief executive, what would you do starting tomorrow? >> the cia could take the lead on more of this, doing the way that things were done back in the '60 is the end in indochina,

a property proper program, we w going to our 30th rotation of troops coming extend the u.s. guys they are, they attach and they learn the way in the certain area, and then after seven or eight months, they leave and then you send a whole another group in. we have done that 30 times. you have to have continuity with the mentors and the trainers that actually live with the afghans the way that it worked in the east india company is for 100 years. this does not cost very much to do it that way. certainly less than sending b-52s to bomb $100 drug bouts like the penitent nomadic pentagon has been trying to do. >> tucker: talking off-line, you said part of the problem is that we have been doing it this way -- >> an object in motion remains in motion. hopefully donald trump is a strong enough force to break the lock on this really grotesque waste of pentagon, of taxpayer resources. >> tucker: a lot of conservatives do not want to say

anything because they revere the military as they showed and they know that the intentions are honorable, but this does not honor them. >> does not honor our veterans. we still have $1 trillion of health care costs coming from this war. the cost in world war ii were not experienced until the 1980s. so we are going to be paying for afghanistan for many, many years even if we pull out tomorrow. just in health care cost. >> tucker: you have the knowledge and the authority to make those statements but i'm glad to get them. >> there are other options available, mr. president, let's go. >> tucker: erik prince. the media spent a year shrieking about collusion between trump and vladimir putin. now they are claiming that that never happened at all and they never believed it. that story is next. ♪ or psoriatic arthritis, little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats differently. for psoriasis, 75% clearer skin is achievable

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♪ >> it is starting to smell more and more like collusion to the public. >> it's beginning to look like christmas and collusion. >> if they just do their work and their job, they will find out that it was collusion. and i believe that this president should be impeached. i don't care what others say about it is too soon, we don't know, we think. what more do we need? >> tucker: well, for more than a year we have listened to elected democrats in the media who serve them, how about russian collusion? why we need a far-reaching all-powerful investigation to uncover its command now you are unpatriotic if you have questions. we have our investigation, and has not found a whiff of evidence that anybody colluded vladimir putin, so now the same people who have been yelling at us for a year have decided to forget that they ever said anything like this, now claiming

collusion was never a point at all. just wanted to know what russia was doing. devin nunes involved in the investigation since the very beginning, joining us tonight. thank you for coming on. >> always a pleasure, thank you. >> tucker: you have requested a number of documents from federal agencies, intelligence and law enforcement that apparently have not got them, why is it so difficult to get facts from our government? >> well, it has been a challenge as you know the whole time, we have had to subpoena, threatened contempt, but we are having a showdown between the legislative branch and to the executive branch, and just going to what you talked about to open up the segment, the facts are not bearing out to what the democrats wanted to be. because we have found collusion, we have found collusion between the democrats, specifically the clinton campaign and the democratic national committee and the russians, however, does not seem to be like nobody is

interested in that collusion, we have also found to fill any leaks, nobody seems to be interested in getting to the bottom of the felony leaks, so it is about what the house intelligence committee led by the republicans are trying to get to the bottom of despite what we are up against a lot of odds. we are not getting help from the democrats in the house and also not getting any help from the mainstream media. >> tucker: and you are being lied to. here's an example of the line going on, john brennan, the cia director comes before congress and testifies under oath that he had no idea who wrote the trump dossier and that that dossier faces no conclusion by the intel community. it seems very much like a lie, because the fbi knew exactly who wrote to the dossier, he lied to congress under oath, will he face perjury for that? why not if not? >> we sent out a questionnaire today command we are asking several former and current officials to answer ten sinful simple questions.

these are questions that the public should know, and they want to know. and that is when did you learn about the dossier? when did you learn that it was paid for by the democrats? when did you learn that this was a political piece? these are all questions that we should be able to get answers to come and we will. so part of what we sent out today was the questionnaire, ten questions on ant, also was a cover letter that says that if you do not answer this you will be subpoenaed and you will come before congress to tell us when you knew about this. >> tucker: but he did already say, he said his piece, and it looks really clear that he lied, is -- do you think he lied? >> we do not know, we do not know the answer, maybe he is telling the truth, did he not know that the democrats paid for the dossier, it is possible, now one of the things that he set on another show was that he knew that press people were talking

to him about the dossier in 2016, now we do not know who the press people were, it is possible that he did not know the dead democrats paid for it at that time, but clearly he knew about the dossier back in . >> tucker: thank you for coming me on and clearing that up, we appreciate it. last year the trump administration crackdown on chicago-area bakery that employed thousands of illegal workers, what happened after that? interesting story. stay tuned. e stars, two thumbs , 12-out-of-10, would recommend thing. because if you only want the best thing, you get the #1 thing. directv is rated #1 in customer satisfaction over cable. switch now and get a $200 reward card. more for your thing. that's our thing.

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>> tucker: about 800 employees out of clover hill bakery in chicago lost their jobs after a dhs audit presenting fraudulent ids, which is illegal, you read how mean it was to put them out of work. people here illegally, the massive loss of labor caused a crisis, and the bakery was able to recover by hiring local

citizens from chicago's black neighborhoods. these employees have been paid an average of $14 an hour instead of ten dollars the illegal immigrants were making. creating high-paying jobs for african-americans. who would've thought? >> sean: welcome to "hannity," a fox news alert, breaking elements into the russian collusion of 2016 election. devin nunes demanding answers to find out what president obama and his cohorts knew and when they found out about the clinton bought four paid for dossier filled with russian lies paid to sara carter reporting tonight to that chairman nunez has a list of questions to senior obama officials about hillary's dossier. and new at this hour, the special counsel, robert mueller has concealed another criminal charge, small against a lawyer for lying to the fbi.