"fox news @ night." in the meantime, most-watched, most trusted, and was grateful you spent the evening with us. good night from washington, for "fox news @ night," i'm shannon bream. see you tomorrow. ♪ >> tucker: good evening, welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." special counsel robert mueller's investigation claimed another victim today, someone you have never heard of. he is dutch attorney alex van der zwaan. he pleaded guilty of making false statements to the fbi. he worked for the law firm skadden, one of the biggest firms in the country. and included work for ukrainian president victor yanukovych, work that was arranged by lobbyist paul manafort. it appears that manafort weaponized a number of american law firms on law firms on behalf of his ukrainian client. he is paying the price for that

tonight, so why does any of this matter exactly? none of it has anything to do with donald trump, the 2016 election. it turns out as some of us predicted, robert mueller's investigation has taken off in unpredictable directions. indictments like the one today expose the truth about the foreign influence in the united states. other countries do subvert our democracy, but not without vast conspiracies, those are fake and delusional actually, the real threats, and it is real, is foreign lobbying and influence buying. foreign interests push us to fight to certain wars, to sign trade deals, to pass specific laws, and too often they succeeded not. that is a clear perversion of the democracy we were promised, and america governed by americans. it's also unconstitutional. but foreign influences everywhere, hiding in plain sight, virtually everyone in washington implicated in some way and that may explain why whenever he mentions it. by the way, it's a bipartisan crime. paul manafort is a republican, the podesta group that helped him lobby was a democratic firm, one of the biggest.

the head of the team working on the ukranian account was greg craig, one the most famous democratic operations. he was the obama white house counsel, before that a key assistant to bill clinton for years. a huge player in democratic circles. is dave craig one of the new is greg craig one of the new targets? we cannot say, but what is obvious is that this investigation is no longer about the 2016 election. it never was. mueller is imposing on the real scandal in washington, the one that the media ignored for decades, the real foreign influence scandal. and if that is the case, if that is what mueller is doing, god bless him. fox news senior political analyst brit hume joins us tonight. hey, brit. >> hi, tucker. >> tucker: what is the significance of another indictment for lying? >> the first thing that struck me about it was that this man is accused of a crime that happened

during the course of the investigation, which is to say no investigation, no crime. this is absolutely typical of what we have with special counsel and independent counsel investigations. they end up as often as not being after people for what happened during the investigation and not so much for the event or the crime or the issue for which the investigation was started in the first place. and that is where we are here in this case. that is also true of the papadopoulos indictment. and also likewise true that the paul manafort and associated charges were about things that happened before the campaign, which was supposed to be the principal subject events during the campaign and the principal subject of the investigation, as you pointed out earlier, tucker, we are pretty far afield from the original purpose of the investigation, which if you are

right, may be a good thing. but it is also giving you an idea of what a wide-ranging and largely unaccountable force a special counsel investigation can be. >> tucker: imagine if mueller decided in the course of this investigation to broaden his aim to uncover the extensive web of foreign influence on our policy, not our elections, but how we make laws and trade deals et cetera. you know from spending your life here that it is extensive. that would be an enormous investigation, would it not be? >> it would be an enormous investigation. i'm not sure what it would find. i'm not sure that i agree with you about to the extent of the influence. it seems like looking through the runups that i have seen to the military investigation and major policy changes that they have been widely debated in most cases and i am thinking about the debates that i witnessed on the floor of the house and the senate about these matters. i must say to you, tucker, maybe i'm blind, but i do not

remember the dark foreign influences on senators i saw. i watch them debate the main elements that you would expect to be spoken of in the course -- >> tucker: i may be more cynical. will you can see this? everyone who lives here, everyone knows a ton of people, legitimately a lot of people taking money from foreign governments to influence our policy in one way or another. that is not an unusual thing to do for a living here. >> it is certainly true that a law firms and lobbying firms that do business in washington are often hired by foreign clients and foreign interests. that is no particular mystery. that's and that is out in the open. been huge, out of the open the question that i think that it raises is how really influential are they? and based on what i have witnessed, i'm not sure that they are terribly influential. i might add to that, by the way, speaking about things that are not terribly influential, you can look at the charges that mueller has brought to the case

of the 13 indictments of russian individuals that came out last week, it does not add up to very much, not very much money and not as we can tell very much influence. and of course these are 13 individuals who almost will never be prosecuted. they are russians and vladimir putin will not be disposed to extradite them to the united states for mueller's charges. so there we are in that. >> tucker: there we are on that. brit hume, great to see you. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: mueller's investigation shows there is that russia and other countries have been meddling in this country for some time. this raises an obvious question that has been dismissed in the media, but what about the last administration? they knew about this. why did they not do anything about it? where was the fbi? piers morgan joins us tonight. the editor at large for dailymail.com, we are happy to have him tonight. piers morgan, you are looking at this from an advantage, and you think of it as a law enforcement it always gets its man, have you

revised your take on the fbi over the last year? >> well, i've revised it in the last week, one of the worst ever weeks in the fbi in its 198 years of history. i will tell you why, two reasons. one, take the russian investigation. donald trump is president of the united states now and has been for just over a year, but there remains zero evidence that says that he colluded with anyone from russia in an attempt to fix the u.s. election. that's just a fact. now mueller may have some secret evidence, but he hasn't produced it. there is no evidence with trump to any collusion. well, okay, we know that it is russian meddling, we do not know the scale. it may be what brit hume just said, it may be small and not very significant. but there was meddling, you would expect that. but whose job was that it to deal with the meddling? that would be the previous president, barack obama, who from 2014 when the meddling

started, it was his job and on his watch. and he has 17 intelligence agencies led by the fbi, and it is their responsibility, in my view, to investigate and to stop and to close down the kind of meddling that we saw from these russians. and that simply did not happen. so i would say if you combined that performance by the fbi in terms of the russian investigation, or lack of it, that was going on, and then you look at what happened with the mass shooting this week in florida. this is one of the most spectacular ball drops that i have ever seen from any intelligence agency. the fbi were warned twice. once that this guy posted on a vlogger's commentary that he was going to be a school shooter. he is a very unusual name. nikolas cruz, spelt in a unusual way. they were not able to trace him, and he had a background check. they could've found him in 5 minutes.

cut forward four months to the start of january, and then we have the most extraordinary situation where it turns out to that somebody very close to the shooter phoned the fbi tip line designed for tips about crime and potential crime and said that this guy is dangerous, he is heavily armed. we think that he may shoot up the school. they gave them chapter and verse on this bloke. and to the fbi did not even refer it to its head office in miami. it did not even see it despite having two warnings that this guy might be armed, dangerous, unstable, mentally ill, and prepared to shoot a school up. putting those two things together, and i'm sorry, this is a pretty appalling performance by the fbi leading me to conclude in my column today that will be better off calling them the federal bureau of incompetence. >> tucker: i think your interpretation is right, you add to that to the las vegas

shooting, the biggest in american history, we have no understanding of why that happened, and there is a trail of incompetence by law enforcement. so here's my question, given all of that, i think your position is a reasonable one, why is that the people who say that are denounced as unpatriotic by media figures? why is it unpatriotic to question federal agents? >> it is interesting, isn't it? i think the partisan nature is so extreme on both sides to a large degree. the anti-trump hysteria in particular means that people are not able to see the woods through the trees. i come from another country, i come to this with a clear, open mind. i wrote 36 columns about donald trump to "daily mail" last year. 18 were supportive and 18 were critical.

i'm a reasonably impartial voice in the debate. i would say to all of those who do not want any criticism of barack obama what happened with the russian meddling or with the fbi to the meddling in the investigation into the shooter, take a good long look at yourselves, because if this happens with donald trump, let's reverse it. let's say that donald trump had been the president when all of this meddling was actually going on. and we knew it was going on. there will be absolute outrage that he had not stopped it. so it is legitimate to look at barack obama and say, where were you when this meddling was happening on your watch? and the answer is that he and the fbi seemed far more exercised to be investigating other technology in terms of emails, hillary clinton, servers and so on, quite legitimately. but where they basically taking their eye off the ball and not focusing on what is probably for the american country far more serious, which is the persistent russia meddling through american companies like facebook, twitter, google, and others, using and abusing them to interrupt the thinking.

>> tucker: you cannot argue simultaneously that that was a big deal and obama is blameless. i agree with that. pierce morgan, thank you. good to see you tonight. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: the horrifying shooting in parkland, florida, is sparking new demands on bans of firearms, what is being pushed this time, would it make you safer, your children safer? we will tell you, next. ♪ you totanobody's hurt, new car. but there will still be pain. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three-quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do? drive three-quarters of a car? now if you had liberty mutual new car replacement™, you'd get your whole car back. i guess they don't want you driving around on three wheels. smart. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, we'll replace the full value of your car.

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in parkland, florida, has not surprisingly sparked a new push on the left to take guns awayus from american citizens. in the new call is for a ban on so-called assault rifles, an intentionally imprecise term that includes ar-15s. bans of any kind are not popular, but many are upset. release so that they may be open to a benefit promised to save lives. the question is, what an assault weapons ban prevent future shootings? that is the key question. luckily we do not need to guess on the answer. we already had an assault weapons ban for ten years starting in 1994. that law, when it was written, mandated a comprehensive study of the effectiveness, which was produced. so we have a definitive answer. according to the justice department, the assault weapons ban passed in 1994 had no effect on crime rates. none. nobody was saved by it. that should not be surprising if you know the numbers, becauseas despite the hype, rifles are not the weapon of choice for the overwhelming majority of killers

in america. in 2015, the most recent year for which we have data, rifles were used in a total of 252 homicides in america. by comparison, old-fashioned knives, sharpened metal, was used in 1500 killings, blunt objects killed 437.al a striking 624 murders were o committed with bare hands and feet. the actual numbers on that from the government. the science is in on this and it's conclusive, and the very people who tell you that they still believe in science and you don't do not care about the science. they are still trying to ban ar-15s. the new legislation, thehe assault weapons ban of 2017, introuduced by several democratic senators, would outlaw the manufacture, the sale, the transfer of more than 200 "military style assault weapons." what is a military style assault weapon? any weapone that has featureswe like a detachable magazine, a

pistol grip, a forward grip, a folding stock or the infamous barrel shroud, presumably made because of its purpose is shrouded in mystery for the people that propose banning it. they have no idea what that is. most are cosmetic features, they do not make them more deadly, they make them look more scary. and that is enough. let's stop pretending. none of this nonsense would limit mass killings. the people pushing a do not believe it would have that effect. they will admit that, because it is impossible to deny it. again, the numbers are in.l the real problem is they have is loathing the second amendment, like the first amendment they no longer believe in. t they think that you do not have a right to own a gun and workin hard to make sure that you cannot own a gun. it is not about safety, it is control. new york city council member jumaane williams, running for lieutenant governor, joining us tonight.nt counsel williams, thank you for coming on. >> it is a good time to talk about gun safety. >> tucker: it is a good time to talk about gun safety. i think it is always a good time.al

we had an assault weapons ban very much like the ones thatat democrats in the senate are proposing. we had it for ten years, and we know, because it was studied exhaustively, that it saved no lives. what is the motive in re-imposing the law? >> i noticed on your data, you did not put that 90,000 are shot, 30,000 killed by guns every single year but the real question is -- >> tucker: which percent are suicides? >> people are acting like that matters. >> tucker: it does matter, the majority are suicides. >> two-thirds were suicides. that means 10,000 americans are murdered.00 that's one. and two, which is critically important, it shows the presence of the gun increases a successful suicide percentage. so that is important. >> tucker: just as a side note, you are suddenly against suicide when it is committed by a gun? >> i want to make sure that we

are all clear, your conflation is all good. >> tucker: you cannot to note that two-thirds of the deaths were self-inflicted. i'm not for suicide, physician-assisted or otherwise, i'm sure you are, i just want to be clear with the viewers -- >> i want to be clear and save the lives lost to suicide also matter in the 10,000 murders and should be counted, as well. >> tucker: i'm not for a gun and killing of any kind, my only point is that legislators make laws and they do so in the hope that they will have the intended effect. and we know from ten years of experience that an assault weapons ban does not work. there is no debate, the doj came to the conclusion after studying it. why would we want it again? it's a simple question. >> the real question is and it is to you, tucker. do you believe that we should not have unfettered access to guns in this country? that's the question. >> tucker: i don't know what that means. i want specifics.

i cover lawmakers who are trying to impose laws of the rest of us and i try to assess whether those laws will be effective. >> what we should do, if we are both being honest -- >> tucker: i am being honest. >> we have to start at a point where people agree. should we have unfettered access to guns in the country? >> tucker: i do not know what that means, we do not have unfettered access. >> wee absolutely do ask max. when that overstated. >> that is the question that i'm trying to get to you so that we can have a conversation about what to do after we have agreed with that. >> tucker: rather to get into this airy world -- >> it is not airy. >> tucker: those words do not mean much. >> they mean a lot. >> tucker: let's get in thele specifics of the legislation of the left, the democratic party, is pushing now. guns that have a barrel shroud ought to be prohibited, outlawed, banned. my question is why? why would the barrel shroud to make the gun more dangerous? >> that is the wrong question. >> tucker: why is that the wrong question? this is the question that is here.

>> and it works, because you are giving people the red meat-- >> tucker: it is not responding to me, i'm responding to a piece of proposed legislation proposed by your allies in the democratic party, and i'm asking you about the details of the legislation it would propose banning guns that had pistol grips and barrel shrouds and bayonets gloves. what is this? >> what you do well is focus on something. >> tucker: focusing on facts. >> i want to focus on the real question that you refuse to answer, whether or not this country should have unfettered access to guns. >> tucker: the answer is no, we do not allow a 9-year-olds guns. they are not currently allowed to have a guns, and they will never be allowed. there is no disagreement. >> then my question is, what should we do? because when you look at something like a car that was made just to transport people and accidentally kills people, we have tremendous amount of regulation. you need insurance, you have to have training.

>> tucker: our guns are tremendously regulated. >> a gun that is made to kill people, you have to have training to purchase a gun in this country -- >> tucker: are you going to address the actual law proposed by actual democrats in the actual u.s. senate or no? >> the country that has 50% of all civilian guns in the world and 4% of the population, are you willing to admit that that has something to do with the gun violence in the country? >> tucker: i am dealing in the realm of social science and facts. here's what we do agree on. >> you are dealing in the realm of conflation. >> tucker: i'm not conflating anything. >> i want to start from here -- >> tucker: the fact that you are unwillingg to address the specifics of the legislation should address to me that your real name is not reducing gun violence, but something, i would say, hidden. may be taking guns away from the population.

i would suspect that is probably your aim. >> the reason i'm running for lieutenant governor, i've been a leading voice among others in reducing gun violence dressed in the past year by 22%. what have you done to reduce gun violence inon this country?en >> tucker: i don't know. >> exactly my point. and you have a perch, you should be responsible. you need to be responsible. >> tucker: i am responsible, because i deal in facts, while you deal in mindless generalizations. it does nothing against something -- >> people should not have unfettered access to guns in the country. >> tucker: i don't know who gave you the talking points, but you should fire him. >> there will be people thato always respond to me and i am happy because i came on the show. i'm looking forward to working with you in the future. >> tucker: you ought to get off of twitter and do something for the state of new york. you have too much free time, get off of twitter! >> the question, what have you done to deal with gun violence? i told you what i did and i'm very proud of it.

>> tucker: thank you, congressman. councilman, rather. boy, gave him a job boost. dan bongino, the secret service agent, joins us tonight, so there is a huge controversy online that i am hesitant to wade in on, but i think that it needs to be addressed and over the protests led by the students for whom all of us feel terrible, you cannot imagine anything worse than your kids school getting shot up, but all of the sudden you are seeing these kids involved in calls for very specific pieces of legislation. and the allegation has been that they are in some way in contact with organized antigun with organized antigun groups, and they've been denounced as a moral and heartless and how dare you attack them, which i am not doing, but it raises interesting questions about how we make our law. >> what is interesting about this is that i am with you 100%, if you are involved in a horrific, unimaginable tragedy,, your voice should be heard, but what i find ironic is a couple

of things. number one, where their voices are most valuable are not on the components that the media is paying attention to. supply side measures to get rid of guns. where their voices would be valuable are where were the signs missed? they were there and they dealt with this kid every day, but the media has focused more on a teenager's expertise in supply side control measures for guns, which, tucker, let's be candid, they have not studied a complicated, layered issue. they absolutely, unequivocally have the right, we want to hear their voices, but the media is focusing on an agenda and not ironically where the kids -- >> tucker: they areng using these kids in a moral blackmail where you are not allowed to disagree or you are attacking the child, which of course the last thing that i would ever do as a father of four. i would never attack a kid. you can disagree with otherr people's opinions without attacking them. but the press is conflating that.

>> did you notice the doublespeak as well? when it comes to things like immigration rights, they do not seek subject matter expertise from parents who have been killed by illegal immigrants. when it comes to the victims of terrorist attacks, to be candid here, i get it, they can say that the republicans come out and they say what about kate's law, but we gave them a voice and we followed up with a subsequent law. but the media will not do the same. they will give these kids a platform to talk about these legislative issues, but they will not give anyone else on an issue that does not fit their agenda the exact same.se >> tucker: creepy propaganda, i guess what i disagree with is the idea that anybody with an alternative view is removed from the conversation. that is the play. >> it is all critical theory stuff. it is meant to minimize -- it wins the argument before it

starts by making sure that tucker carlson is a bad guy, therefore whatever he says is therefore unworthy. >> tucker: that is so smart. i wish that i would express it as crisply as you did. that was good. i'm impressed. thank you, dan. washington is focused on russia and daca. as we look away from the capital city, the rest of america has we'll show you shocking footage from one of america's richest! cities as you have not seen it before. ♪ , my phone. ♪you built the flame ♪that warms my heart, ♪but lying and cheating ♪has torn us apart ♪and i'm moving on.

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>> tucker: here in washington, all the focus is on russia, daca, plans to regulate guns, meanwhile, the country that washington rules seems to be hollowing out. if you don't believe us, watch this. we want to show you jarring footage last month of orange county, california, one of the country's richest places. showing one of the vast homeless encampments that has become routine in southern california. watch this. ♪ ♪

>> tucker: it goes on like that for miles, literally for miles. and that is not the only place in america where you can find it. it is all over the country, almost 12,000 homeless people in seattle, most without shelter, l.a. county has close to 60,000 homeless people. drive around, if you have not done so, you will be shocked. increasingly, many communities don't just look like slums, they are literally becoming slums. we are not overstating that. and nbc bay area investigation into san francisco, one of the richest cities in the world, surveyed 130 blocks in downtown san francisco, they found trash littering every single block. 41 blocks had needles on the ground, 96 with piles of human, it is repulsive. trash, drugs, homeless.

the daily life in the richest big cities.ma formerly run by progressives, the generation of mass immigration, sanctuary cities, police were supposed to make everybody prosperous. a lot of our greatest cities increasingly look likeik port-au-prince. it is awful, nobody mentions it. tim ryan, the democrat representing ohio, to his great credit to embarking on the cross country come back cities tour to investment in these cities. you and i disagreed on a lot the last time you were on, we got in a shouting match. i am impressed that you are doing this, i want to hear about it, i think our viewers will too, you are one of the few people that seems to notice what is happening, so tell us what you are doing to make it better. >> i appreciate that, tucker. yes, it's always fun being on with you. we have about 80% of venture capital money in the united states that goes to three states, california, new york, and massachusetts. about 10% goes to women, less than 2% goes to hispanics

and less than 2% goes to african-americans. what we are trying to do starting tomorrow is a comeback cities tour that starts in youngstown, ohio. we are bringing 12 venture capitalists, some of the biggest in the country that invest in airbnb and uber and spotify. we are bringing them to youngstown. we are going to get on a bus, go to akron, ohio, south bend, indiana, and put these ventureet capitalists in the room with emerging companies and emerging communities to try to reconnect some of the industrial midwest in the south. >> tucker: good for you. i've got two ideas that i want to run by you. the first is simple, so huge american charitable foundations, the rockefeller foundation, sending a lot of money abroad. the ideaa is the rest of the world needs it more than we do. do you think that it would be worth encouraging them to turn their sites domestically and use some of that money to tax free and help american cities? >> absolutely.

i think a lot of the money that they invest globally is very important, because we do want to prevent disease and to lift people up and get people out of poverty. a lot of that money is very important. but we are trying to build a new way of doing this, using public/private partnership. in washington right now you either think that the government is the problem or you think that to the government is the solution, and it is an either/or, when the reality is that it is a balance in the middle. it is, okay, what can the government do efficiently? when investment can they make in the parks, bike trails, riverwalks, the infrastructure that you need, but at the end of the day that government cannot hire everybody, so you need that private sector to create the jobs and this tour is about how to strike that balance. >> tucker: here is something that to the government can do,

move a lot of the government agencies to the states, why isn't the transportation department in detroit, why are they all here? the richest area in the country in the world? why not do that? >> i actually have a bill that puts the commission together to look at exactly what agencies you could move out of washington, d.c., and into the heartland or the south and the communities that need it. there are 300,000 federal employees that work in washington, d.c., think if you could get 100,000 of those out of d.c., you could put 1000 federal jobs in 100 communities or you could put 500 federal jobs in the 200 different communities in the youngstown, gary, indiana, biloxi, mississippi, and really rebuild and heal some of these communities and make them go into the downtown distressed communities, now you're starting to build out your tax base for your schools and your income tax.

and a lot of development with the increase in taxes, that local community can then float bonds and they can take the money and build out the public space with the new revenue, it is a win-win-win. employees who make $60,000 or $70,000 a year, which is a heck of a lot more money, whatever the case may be, a lot more and a place like gary, indiana, or akron then it is in washington, d.c. >> tucker: i hope you get that on, congressman. thank you for that. i agree with you on that part of the program. >> good to see see you, tucker. >> tucker: the war in afghanistan had lasted four more times longer than the americans involved in world war ii. is there any help in getting ou out? erik prince is here with the latest from afghanistan. ♪ ♪ oh, why you look so sad,

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6000 days. to put that in perspective,ha napoleon bonaparte seized control of france, crowned himself emperor, defeated fourur coalitions against him, and exiled, returned,, and exile begin all in less time than the u.s. has spent trying to create democracy out of afghanistan's mountainous waste. is there any hope for bringing about the long-term resolution? erik prince might know. he is the founder of blackwater and a former navy seal. he joins us tonight. thank you for coming o on. how do we get out of afghanistan? >> all of the metrics are in the wrong direction. more taliban, more violence, 40r afghans on average per day are dying. how do we get out? we go back to the original intelligence led effort like we did right after 9/11. a hundred or so soft guys backed by air power with some localnd tribes devastated the taliban, when we went to an army

approach, we are backwards ever since. spending more than the u.k. defense budget or more than the entire dhs budget in afghanistan. >> tucker: more than the entire u.k. defense budget in the country? >> $52 billion. >> tucker: and the net gain has been? >> we are losing the people, we are losing afghans, a lot of military equipment torn up, and it is just a continuous loop of insanity. the president has ant opportunity, he campaigned rightly against endless wars. he had an opportunity, got rolled by the very conventional generals around him last summer. i think hopefully he pays closer attention this next time around, because it is not working. >> tucker: if you were in that position as chief executive, what would you do starting tomorrow? >> the cia could take the lead on more of this, doing the way that things were done back in the '60s and '70s in indochina, a proper program, we are now

going to our 30th rotation of troops, you send the u.s. guys there, they attach and they learn the way in the certain area, and then after seven or eight months, they leave and then you send a whole another group in. we have done that 30 times. you have to have continuity with the mentors and the trainers that actually live with the afghans the way that it worked in the east india company is for 100 years. this does not cost very much to do it that way. certainly less than sending b-52s to bomb $100 drug vats like the pentagon has been trying to do. >> tucker: talking off-line, you said part of the problem is momentum, that we have been doing it this way -- >> an object in motion remains in motion. hopefully donald trump is a strong enough force to break the lock on this really grotesque waste of pentagon, of taxpayer resources. >> tucker: a lot of conservatives do not want to say anything because they revere the

military as they should and they know that the intentions are honorable, but this does not honor them.he >> does not honor our veterans.n we still have $1 trillion of health care costs coming from this war. the cost in world war ii were not experienced until the 1980s. so we are going to be paying for afghanistan for many, many years even if we pull out tomorrow. just in health care cost. >> tucker: you have the knowledge and the authority to make those statements and i'm glad you did. t >> there are other options available, mr. president, let's go. >> tucker: erik prince. the media spent a year shrieking about collusion between trump and vladimir putin.r: now they are claiming that that never happened at all and they never believed it. c that story is next. ♪ that story is next. ♪ oh, that's lovely... so graceful. the corkscrew spin, flawless... ...his signature move, the flying dutchman. poetry in motion.

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♪ >> it is starting to smell more and more like collusion to the public. >> it's beginning to look like christmas and collusion. >> if they just do their work and their job, they will find out that it was collusion. and i believe that this president should be impeached., i don't care what others say about it is too soon, we don't know, we think. what more do we need? >> tucker: well, for more than a year we have listened to elected democrats and the media who serve them, howl about russian collusion and why we need a far-reachingar all-powerful investigation to uncover it and how you are unpatriotic if you have questions. we have our investigation, and has not found a whiff of evidence that anybody colluded vladimir putin, so now the same people who have been yelling at us for a year have decided to forget that they ever said anything like this, now claiming collusion was never the point at all.

just wanted to know what russia was doing. devin nunes has been involved in the investigation since the very beginning, joining us tonight.in mr. chairman, thank you for coming on. >> always a pleasure, thank you. >> tucker: you have requested a number of documents from federal agencies, intelligenceer and law enforcement agencies, and apparently have not got them, why is it so difficult to get facts from our government? >> well, it has been a challenge as you know the whole time, we have had to subpoena, threatened contempt, but we are having a showdown between the legislative branch and the executive branch, and just going to what you talked about to open up the segment, the facts are not bearing out to what the democrats wanted it to be. because we have found collusion, we have found collusion betweend the democrats, specifically the clinton campaign and the democratic national committee and the russians, however, does not seem to be like nobody is

interested in that collusion, we have also found felony leaks, nobody seems to be interested in getting to the bottom of the felony leaks, so it is part of what the house intelligence committee led by the republicans are trying to get to the bottom of despite what we are up against a lot ofn odds. we are not getting help from the democrats in the house and also not getting any help from the mainstream media. >> tucker: and you are being lied to. here's an example of the line going on, john brennan, the ciae director, comes before congress and testifies under oath that he had no idea who wrote the trump dossier and that that dossier formed the basis of no conclusion by the intel community. it seems very much like a lie, because the fbi knew exactly who wrote to the dossier, he lied to congress under oath, will he face perjury charges for that? why not if not? >> we sent out a questionnaire today, and we are asking several former and current officials to answer ten simple questions.

these are questions that the public should know, and they want to know. simple questions like, when did you learn about the dossier? when did you learn that it was paid for by the democrats? when did you learn that this was a political piece?s these are all questions that we should be able to get answers to and we will. so part of what we sent out today with the questionnaire, ten questions on it, also was a cover letter that says that if you do not answer, this you will be subpoenaed and you will come before congress to tell us when you knew about this. >> tucker: but he did already say, brennan said his piece, and it looks really clear that he lied, is -- do you think heis lied? >> we do not know, we do not know the answer, maybe he is telling the truth, did he not know that the democrats paid for the dossier? it is possible, now one of the things that he said on another show was that he

knew that press people were talking to him about the dossier in 2016, now we do not know who the press people were, it is possible that he did not know the democrats paid for it at that time, but clearly he knew about the dossier back in 2016.i >> tucker: thank you for coming on and clearing that up, i appreciate it. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: last year the trump administration cracked down on a chicago-area bakery that employed thousands of illegal workers, what happened after that? interesting story. stay tuned.

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>> tucker: about 800 employees out of clover hill bakery in chicago lost their jobs after a dhs audit, presenting fraudulent ids, which is illegal. not surprising because they were illegal immigrants. you read a lot about that, how mean ito was to put them out of work. these people from other countries here illegally. the massive loss of labor caused

a crisis, and the bakery was able to recover by hiring local citizens from chicago's black neighborhoods.ze these employees have been paid an average of $14 an hour instead of ten dollars the illegal immigrants were making. in other words, and created high-paying jobs for african-americans. who would've thought? >> sean: welcome to "hannity," a fox news alert, breaking new developments into the russian collusion of 2016 election. devin nunes is demanding answers to find out what president obama and his cohorts knew and when they found out about the clinton bought for, paid for dossier filled with russian lies. sara carter reporting tonight sara carter reporting tonight that chairman nunes has sent a list of questions to senior obama officials about hillary's dirty russian dossier. and new at this hour, the special counsel, robert mueller has unsealed another criminal charge, albeit small against a