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>> laura: president trump is directing the justice department to look into a band in the wake of the florida shooting, or the las vegas shooting more accurately. he's targeting bomb stocks, like the one used in that las vegas shooting in october. >> it just a few moments ago i

signed a memorandum directing the attorney general to propose regulations to ban all devices that turn legal weapons into machine guns. >> laura: 's bomb stocks semiautomatic rifles to fire rapidly. close to an automatic rifle. joining us now to discuss implications of the president's move our executive director of the gun owners of america, eric pratt and philippe, senior advisor to the former secretary of state hillary clinton. great to have you both on. we will start with you. good move on the part of the president? >> i don't think you will be surprised to hear me say yes. but i grew up in new york city. i'm not going to pretend i'm a lifelong hunter, i've never been hunting, i'm an animal lover. i totally understand why people of hunting. to meet guns with the bad guys had guns and i was happy the cops had more guns. but i'm going to put my cards on the table. i am a d.c. firearm licensed

citizen. i couldn't have this a decade ago until a man named heller sued washington, d.c., and won. but in that, scalia, who i think we can all agree it was conservative, he said there are limits to the second amendment. you can't tell people they can have guns, but you can put reasonable prohibitions on guns. it's hard to for me to understand how bump stocks -- we've been on air for a minute and 50 seconds. stephen paddock held that trigger for 11 minutes straight. we will sit here for maybe five more minutes. imagine a machine gun going off into a crowd killing 58 people. that was a bump in stock. let's get rid of it. >> laura: we just put up a photo of nikolas cruz, who did not have a bump stock. it was used in the las vegas shooting. the dramatic nature of this conversation i think is powerfu

powerful. emotions can't win back the day. facts are facts. explain to us what the bump stock really is. >> it certainly doesn't convert a semiautomatic -- >> laura: that's what the president said. kind of. >> he ordered that it be -- that are will be issued. if they do go down that road, it's not going to stop bad guys from getting them, because no gun law yet has worked to stop bad guys -- just look at chicago. chicago has been an utter failure. what actually woodwork is what candidate donald trump used to talk about, and that was repealing gun free zones so that the good people can shoot back at the bad people and unfortunately we didn't have that they are in florida. we protect our president with guns. we protect the congress with guns, the senators, the representatives. but how do we protect our schools? we put a sign out front that says no guns are allowed here.

criminals -- >> when i was a kid in junior high and my social studies teacher, i wouldn't want that woman packing a 22 in her purse. he is saying teachers and principals. >> what about police officers? >> 77% of america want more gun control. >> second amendment trumps your poles. >> laura: i just want to get in here. >> there has got to be some kind of reasonable restriction that you agree with. >> laura: i was thinking about this. >> what we can agree is the second amendment says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. >> should be allowed to at 19 by an ar-15? >> laura: let's talk about something that maybe we can all agree on. i was remembering in the late '70s, early '80s when i was in school, we had fire drills. i grew up in connecticut.

buying a gun was not a big deal, a lot of people had guns, they still do, a lot more laws there now. we never had thought of having a drill for something like this. something has shifted in society both with us as individuals, with families, with common sense, with us caring about each other. i think we have to think about -- those are big issues. >> people have made people think that way. >> laura: i swear we had more guns in connecticut when i was growing up. >> there are other victims of mass shootings like a man i personally know, officer rob young of california. he was shot at the stockton california school as a first grader. he completely advocates teachers, principals. he says we can't get there quickly enough. same thing with patrick knebel, a survivor of columbine, says the same thing.

>> laura: anecdotally. >> you grew up in connecticut. connecticut after newtown changed its minimum law from 19 to 21. why is it bad to make florida the same thing? he couldn't get a handgun at that age. i'm trying to ask a question. >> and i'm answering. this top-down approach thing you can own a firearm -- >> we say you can at 19. >> it is not working. >> it didn't work, he fought a long gun and shot a school. >> laura: there are a lot of things -- >> he legally bought an ar-15 at the age of 19 because it was an ar-15 he did not have to go throw waiting period. >> laura: first of all -- i don't want to disenfranchised mrs. mcgillicuddy over second amendment rights. i don't know her, but i will say this, i think in this country right now we have really big

societal problems that nobody wants to discuss. i will submit that you can ban the bump stock, ban the ar-15 and we are still going to be dealing with massive sociological problems in our schools and sociopathic kids who nobody cares about, nobody loves -- i'm not disagreeing with you. i'm saying we have bigger problems than the bump stocks. i'm not saying that's the be-all and end-all of gun ownership our second amendment rights, but we have really big problems in this country. this kid was a mess and he -- i don't think you should have been able to get a gun. i don't think he should've been able to do what he did. obviously he is a total messed up freak and nobody seemed to care about him. and the teachers couldn't do anything, the students were afraid of him. no one did anything. that's wild. and the fbi got a call that he was going to shoot up the school and they did nothing. >> no law is going to keep him from doing anything.

>> actually a law that says you have to be 21 would have kept i it. ken and on something i think we would all agree with? i think stephen paddock and nikolas cruz should rot in hell after a horrible, horrible -- >> laura: i think florida would probably about 90% for the death penalty. the left is going crazy over what they are calling the deathblow to obamacare. is that really true? the incoming health and human services secretary has announced new regulations that could shake up the obamacare landscape. he will be here in an exclusive. his fi

>> laura: the trump administration is proposing low-cost health insurance alternatives to obamacare and democrats do not like it at all. the plan would allow health insurers to sell short term policies with lower costs and fewer benefits. democrats immediately ridiculed it as junk policy, trash, garbage, senator chuck schumer released the following

statement. since day one the trump administration playbook on health care has been a sabotage to market places, jacked up costs and premiums for millions of middle-class americans. joining the angle exclusively to explain the proposal is the new health and human services secretary alex lazar. mr. secretary, thanks for giving us the first interview. the blowback you guys are getting for offering an alternative is wild. nancy pelosi says americans purchasing their shoddy, misleading, short-term trump care plan will be one diagnosis away from disaster. in other words, it's armageddon. >> the shocking thing is these plans were in fact available until october of 2016 during the entirety of the obama administration's tenure. now we are bringing them back. they got rid of them at the end of the administration and said you can only have the plans that were three months, they cut them down to three months, and they

don't have any of the obamacare restrictions in terms of the mandate from the central government. less flexible so people can get lower cost plans if they choose to. >> laura: now you are in these plans that are supposedly health insurance, but it's access. people don't go to the doctor as much because the out-of-pocket costs are so high, the deductibles are so high. they say i have insurance, but $3600 before i can take advantage of it. those people, the middle-class were were stuck in the area of the economy will best benefit from this? >> we think a couple different groups of people could benefit from this. first, there are people for whom the affordable care act, obamacare's individual insurance plans are unaffordable. premiums doubled before the end of the obama administration. individual market premiums have soared. so for many people the plans are

not affordable to get, and what they get may not be real insurance in terms of the high deductible you are talking about. for some of those people, these less expensive plans, often one-third the price obamacare plans, might be a good option for them. >> laura: pre-existing conditions, what happens? >> these plans don't have those obamacare mandates about pre-existing conditions. >> laura: so if you have lung cancer. >> for somebody like that other options would probably make more sense. but for other individuals, these may be the cheaper -- >> laura: young people? >> young people, healthy people that are already being shut out of the obamacare marketplace. >> laura: because of the high costs. >> because the way the plans were structured, the premiums are so high for the young and healthy they've artie been driven out of the marketplace. our opponents talk about this as if we are right now living in the land of milk and honey and everything is perfect and nobody is lacking insurance. we are talking about 28 million forgotten men and women who do

not have insurance that were promised affordable insurance and president trump with his executive order demanded that we come up with solutions and options like this for affordable individualized health insurance. >> laura: you're just trying to kill off obamacare. you're trying to kill it off and america's health insurance plans, they said we remain concerned that expanded use of short-term policies could further fragment the individual market, which would lead to higher premiums for many consumers, particularly those with pre-existing conditions. why are they so upset about this, mr. secretary? >> the national association of insurance commission was in the past very supportive of these efforts to create these affordable options for people. we are trying to make options available for folks who have been shut out of the marketplace. we need to keep working to build a different system than obamacare, but while we have it, we need more affordable options for people to get the insurance they want, not what i tell them they should have. >> laura: why should a

55-year-old man who is unmarried have to pay for birth control in his policy? why is that something? >> we want to make a system where people can buy the insurance that they want. we need to work with congress to be able to do that. >> laura: this is rule-making. this is rule-making to get 60 days and then it goes into effect. >> then we would review the comments and go to find a role and that can be effective perhaps later this year. these are things we can do while obamacare is still in place. things we can do to help make insurance more affordable or at least give options to people. let's say lose her job. >> laura: actually pay for my own -- i'm actually one of those individuals, a marketplace purchaser, my insurance has gone up 47% or something like that, it's crazy. >> so if you lose your job -- >> laura: can you stop saying that please. >> if somebody else loses their job.

>> laura: i'm much happier with that. >> we are proposing that these plans would be available up to 12 months for people. short-term plans. >> laura: so after 12 months? >> we are asking for comment on whether we have the legal authority to let people renew their plans. >> laura: that's a new health alternative. young people, people between jobs, middle-class people, the poor people are to get coverage, they get the medicaid, they get coverage. but for that group of people. i don't understand where you're getting trashed. i have a funnier job? he was former deputy secretary of hhs. former top executive business. i don't know who else could be more qualified for this job. great to see you, thanks for coming on. decades of one-party rule by democrats, can it be hazardous for your health? up next we will show you how they turned a beautiful city into a rancid

>> laura: the democratic stronghold of san francisco has become, well, especially in downtown, a festering pile of garbage feces and drug needles. according to a survey the investigation of 153 city blocks including popular tour spots found trashed on every block 300 piles of feces on 96 blocks, lovely. 100 discarded hypodermic needles

on 41 blocks. that's all. this is a sanctuary city, is it? is a local deli owner. he spat up. >> it's filthy. it's disgusting. yesterday we taped somebody just on the side of my building peeing on my restaurant in broad daylight. i actually have pictures of people shooting up in the street. it's absolute mayhem at this point. it's completely out of control. >> laura: i had a call or my radio shows today so she went to san francisco recently with her kids and she also saw someone shooting up on the side of the street, tying up the arm, putting the needle, she had to shield her daughter's eyes. not exactly a paradise for businesses or workers. joining us now, san francisco republican party vice chair ken lu is also a police -- and ethan, a political commentator in the bay area radio host. ethan, i love san francisco. i love it. i have family there. i have friends there.

i've been going for a long time. it has a major problem and i don't care if you're a democrat, republican, or somewhere in between, it's not getting better, it seems to be getting worse. what do you think? >> it's true. it is problematic. i will say that under mayor ed lee, who recently passed away, we produced a number of veterans who are homeless in the city of san francisco. we are taking an approach. but remember, we are being handcuffed by a number of laws that prohibit the ability of taking care of people with mental health issues and making them get the psychiatric care that they need. getting them the addictive care. we allow people under the guise of civil liberties to be free and not put them in places to get the help that they need to protect and help themselves, let alone others and allow them to become contributing members of society again. this is a really big issue. it nobody to step in feces.

i have children, i don't like finding used needles. but there are approaches that the city is trying but we actually need some federal help in this case, in my opinion, because a lot of the homeless are not from san francisco. they come because they are not going to freeze to death when we are having a cold snap, unlike the rest of the country. >> laura: are you blaming from for this? you blaming donald trump for the fact that -- >> absolutely not. this is a successive series of issues and court rulings for that matter. you know about that. we had four federal courts ruled that we can't do certain things. >> laura: don't get me started on the judges. i'm going to do a whole big segment on the judges tomorrow. ed let's go to you on this. this is so sad on so many level levels. this is supposed to be the progressive paradise of san francisco. it's a super democrat majority, the board of supervisors for years -- going back to gavin newsom when he tried to get rid of the cash -- remember the cash for the homeless? they fought him back then.

he was my first guest by the way on my radio show that i ever had 17 years ago, it was gavin newsom. but to me it's gotten worse and worse even with some modest improvements around the edges. >> go ahead. >> laura: i think we are having -- are we having audio problems? >> i'm happy to answer that. >> laura: absolutely. it's directed to you. >> san francisco hasn't had a republican elected office for multiple decades now. so none of the problems that we have seen in terms of the homeless year can be attributed to the republicans at all in san francisco, simply because we don't have a single republican elected to office representing san francisco. the homeless epidemic that we have right here is just getting worse. in fact, every year -- i was born here in san francisco and i can see progressively every year the problem has been getting worse and worse every year with

no solutions. i've met with multiple board of supervisor members here in san francisco and they just keep asking for more money. when they ask for more money it is basically rewarding a program that doesn't have any benchmarks. there is no solution in their solution is to just throw more money at the problem. >> laura: what they're also doing is declaring themselves year after year, we are a sanctuary city, sanctuary state. see the problem in orange county, we see the problem in l.a. we are bringing more people into the situation. more people who are indigent and themselves are without jobs at a way to support themselves. i don't see how the sanctuary status of san francisco or the state is doing anybody any favors. ethan and karen, great segment, thank you so much. there's a lot to get through on this and we will have to have to talk about creative solutions that don't just require a big huge piles of federal money. that's not going to work.

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>> laura: politics and kids, that's the focus of tonight's bonus angle. as we mentioned earlier in the shell, that nationwide rally for gun control organized by a few of the students from douglas high school is set for march 24th. it's called the march for our lives. here are some of the dash at least one of the impassioned voices on the gun issue. >> my fear is there's going to be another school shooting, there will be no laws that change. we need stricter gun laws, that is what we need. >> change is happening! [cheers and applause] >> never again! >> we are told that us kids don't know what we're talking about, that we are too young to understand how the government works. >> laura: teens who have survived a mass shooting have every right to express themselves and be heard. that's america and that's a good thing. but i can't help but notice that the media has a little tub or

standard problem here. considering the march for life, the pro-life event that draws hundreds of thousands of people to washington every january. by the way, it's usually in the bitter cold or rotten weather. there's no features or extended interviews about this issue in the media and of course journalists conveniently ignore the fact that the pro-life movement is winning. "the washington post" was recently astonished to discover in 2017, a quinnipiac poll that found 18-34-year-olds for the second most likely age group to oppose late-term abortions. let's say we give those had soe mention as well and maybe a little empathy, or at least a little fair coverage, that would be nice. the kids count, that means all of their views. of their views. stay with♪ ♪ohhhhhh, ou! guess what i just got? uh! ♪i used to be spellbound hello again. ♪i used to be spellbound hi. ♪i used to be spellbound that's a big phone. ♪in your arms. [screams] ah, my phone.

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march. they get almost no media coverage. i'm glad they got media coverage today for the kids going to tallahassee but the press ismam. all kids voices count, you bet. if we will see you back here tomorrow night. ♪ >> shannon: hello and welcome to "fox news @ night." i'm shannon bream in washington. president trump is responding to calls for greater regulations on rapid-fire weaponry like that used in last week's florida school shooting and in las vegas last year. he's calling on the justice department to come up with new possible regulations for so-called bump stocks. that's the las vegas case. that increases the speed in which bullets can be fired from a semiautomatic gun. bump stocks were used in the vega shooting, not in florida. the move could either be a signal by this president of marta, or a move to do something ahead of the meetings this week