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march. they get almost no media coverage. i'm glad they got media coverage today for the kids going to tallahassee but the press ismam. all kids voices count, you bet. if we will see you back here tomorrow night. ♪ >> shannon: hello and welcome to "fox news @ night." i'm shannon bream in washington. president trump is responding to calls for greater regulations on rapid-fire weaponry like that used in last week's florida school shooting and in las vegas last year. he's calling on the justice department to come up with new possible regulations for so-called bump stocks. that's the las vegas case. that increases the speed in which bullets can be fired from a semiautomatic gun. bump stocks were used in the vega shooting, not in florida. the move could either be a signal by this president of marta, or a move to do something ahead of the meetings this week about the next steps after a long string of mass shootings.
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late this evening, students looking for action after the massacre have been arriving in tallahassee. rich edson joins us now from florida state capital. >> good evening. they arrived in their state capital city to the applause of hundreds of students, teachers, and folks here in this community who welcomed them to what is leon high school. this is in tallahassee, florida, about a mile away from the state legislature here and the local students here have welcomed those from parkland, florida, who boarded three buses this afternoon, took the nearly seven hour drive up your and now those students from parkland are meeting with students here in tallahassee. they are talking their legislative strategy for tomorrow. they're having dinner. they want to push their lawmakers here for stronger gun control measures. as one girl got off the bus here from parkland, florida, she was overcome with emotion, said she felt like crying with all of the applause and the greeting she got here from the local students here. other students said they are looking to get results.
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>> we are whispering in the change. we are going to talk to these politicians tomorrow, we're going to talk to them so that the day after that and we are going to keep talking. we're going to keep pushing until something is done. >> before arriving here, at the statehouse in florida already considered bringing up a measure that would ban on assault rifles and decided not to do so. we talked to the senate president's office here in tallahassee. they say they are still going to try to consider a number of gun control measures. florida has a system where they meet annually here at the legislature. it's not a full-time legislature so they are only in session for a couple more weeks. the senate president's office said they still want to try to get some legislation through the committee process and get something to governor rick scott's desk before they leave on march 9th. on the federal level, you mentioned it, president trump has already directed the justice department to address bob starks, and there are even a number of folks and republicans
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in the u.s. congress were saying that the federal congress should pass something on gun control. >> a lot of americans rightly asked why it is an 18-year-old, 19-year-old able to acquire these powerful weapons when they can't buy alcohol, when they can't buy back a handgun? i think we have to do more. >> the students from parkland, florida, arrived just a couple of hours ago here in tallahassee. they are still inside the local high school year. then they will move out, really only sleep for a couple of hours. their day starts early tomorrow morning, about 12 hours of marches and lobbying here in tallahassee kicking off early in the morning. >> shannon: life for us in tallahassee. thank you very much. police have arrested a 15-year-old student in florida after reports by other students that they thought he might have a gun. officers lock down the high school today only to find that it was actually a pink gun
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shaped cell phone case. the team was charged with disruption of school operations which is a misdemeanor. in maryland, a student was arrested on thursday after reportedly bringing a loaded handgun to high school just outside of d.c. authorities say chan had a cache of weapons inside his home, allegedly including an ar-15 style rifle. along with a list of grievances against other students at the school. the chairman of the house intelligence committee still has plenty of unanswered questions about christopher steeles infamous dirty dossier. now devin nunes is digging deeper for answers to at least ten of those questions. we'll enjoy this with that story. >> all of those questions come back to the two points of any scandal in washington. what did you know and when did you know it? noteworthy here, who are getting those questions under threat of subpoena. former fbi director james comey, former director of national intelligence james clapper and former cia director john
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brennan, among others in his sights. >> the facts are not bearing out to what the democrats wanted it to be. because we have found collusion. we found collusion between the democrats, specifically the clinton campaign and the democratic national committee and the russians. however, there doesn't seem to be -- nobody is interested in that collusion. >> with what he calls faced, he remains one of the president's most valuable assets in congres congress. his dogged approach to attacking the traditional trump-russian collusion narrative with his own expose of the dossier brought forth the famous memo. questioning the secret warrants used to gather intelligence on former trump aide carter page. >> it's part of what house intelligence committee led by the republicans are trying to get to the bottom of. despite we are up against a lot of our spirit we are not getting help from the democrats in the
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house and we are also not getting help from the mainstream media. >> in a separate developing, london lawyer alexander swan entered a washington, d.c., federal court and pled guilty to lying to special counsel investigators about his communication with rick gates two months before the presidential election. along with his partner, former trump campaign manager paul manafort, gates was indicted on money laundering charges by the special counsel. unrelated to trump campaign activities. the white house dismisses the charges as really meaningless to the president. >> this has to do with an attorney representing one of the individuals who has already been indicted. it has nothing to do with actions related to this president. >> put these two events together and you find the white house response to russian collusion investigation on one hand, they say the special counsel hasn't found any proof, and secondly they say the whole premise comes back to that dossier that is
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increasingly questionable. >> shannon: again, we continue to hear news about mueller indictments but at the end of the day it has not been anything like in the president or his campaign directly to collusion. it's been people lying to investigators or unrelated money laundering charges. >> unrelated crimes. so far they have not been able to connect the president or his campaign and russia. >> shannon: we will stay on it. thank you, good to see you. people across the country are starting to see an increase in pay checks because of the recent g.o.p. tax cuts under president trump. recent polling suggests americans are feeling interestingly about the cuts. will the effects be felt in the polls this november? joining is now, ellison barber. >> "the new york times" said enfold conducted by survey monkey on their behalf showed that the tax overhaul is gaining support. they surveyed over 10,000 people between february 5th and february 11th. 51% of those surveyed said they approve of the tax law. 46% they disapproved. it's a big increase from when they looked at the same thing
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back in december when tax reform had just passed, then only 37% said they approved of the tax law. republicans are hoping that approval continues to climb upwards and some are already trying to use it to unseat vulnerable democrats like the republican congressman hoping to replace heidi heitkamp. >> i supported tax cuts that are wildly popular in proving to be very, very favorable to the economy, two jobs creation. she of course voted against those. >> today the rnc announced that in january they raised $12.4 million, 134.9 million under all the party is breaking fund-raising records and mention their pro-growth agenda. josh on what it means for republicans come november. >> republicans have gotten their own voters excited. people are seeing tax cuts, the party is more united in the base
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is more willing to go out and show up to support republican candidates across the ballot. it doesn't mean republicans are going to have a great night in november of 2018, but it means a big advantage that democrats had throughout much of 2017 has dissipated. >> democrats say the problem with the republican tax plan is that the lower tax rate is for individuals. that is temporary and it expires in 2025. the 15% cut to the corporate tax rate is permanent. we've heard many democrats say this is a tax cut for the rich. the question is can democrats sell that to voters? on that, josh told us that democrats are trying to refine the message and come up with a new message to try to convince voters that the white house is more concerned with the wealthy instead of the middle class, but he added that a lot of people are seeing bigger paychecks and because of that he said it's becoming increasingly challenging for democrats to say, as we heard nancy pelosi one say, that it's just crumbs. 34 senate seats are in play this
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year, at least six are considered a toss-up's. democrats are defending 26 seats, republicans only eight. >> shannon: ellison barber, thank you very much. it is not just democrats talking about beefing up gun laws. from the president's apparent openness to banning certain gun accessories and setting limits on firearms purchases, ohio governor connie, john kasich floating the idea of banning some guns altogether. >> if all of a sudden you couldn't buy an ar-15, what would you lose? would you feel as though your second amendment rights would be eroded because you couldn't buy a god darn ar-15? >> shannon: let's talk about chris stirewalt. how are you? >> happy tuesday. >> shannon: happy tuesday to you as well. >> a belated presidents' day to you, madam. >> shannon: enter you as well. listen, there's a lot happening. let's talk about this. not surprising who have john
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kasich, who talks about a lot of important issues -- >> maybe acting like someone who was announcing individual bid for presidency. >> shannon: who are we to say? twisting turns on this gun thin thing. the directing the department of justice to dedicate all available resources to complete the review of the comments received and as expeditiously as possible to suppose for notice and comment a rule banning all devices that are illegal weapons into machine guns. we are talking about the bump stock that was used out in vegas. you can have something that is a semiautomatic weapon, use the bump stock on it and it essentially makes it -- >> it uses the kinetic energy of the recoil from the firearm to basically fire it again. it becomes a perpetual motion machine. >> shannon: this something they talked about doing on capitol hill but now is the president saying let's come up with a regulation and see if we can make this happen. >> the fact that -- i should cease to be amazed.
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but the fact that they did not do this simple agreed-upon thing. there was no bump stock constituency. there was a handful, a scanty handful of individuals who had a pro bump stock position. but this was an absolute lay down hand. and they didn't. if they do it after las vegas. now they are going to do this. now they are going to do the corn and bill on background checks, which was supposed to be after texas. they have this backlog of things they should have done before. they are going to try to do them now in the hopes that they can head off gun control legislation at the path. i heard allison talking before about how republicans are trying to set it and forget it on tax cuts. if they blow this, if they screw up their response to the shooting and the next shooting, if they can't handle this, this will cost them with their weakest link right now. suburban female voters and no one is more appalled by this stuff than moms. >> shannon: there are a lot of folks in the base with a minute that there is going to be any chipping away at any potential
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second amendment right, they're worried maybe not about the bump stock, but about opening the door to other legislative or executive measures. >> sure. but just because you make the speed limit 75 doesn't mean that you are eventually going to make the speed limit zero. there's a reason for people who are enthusiastic supporters, defenders of second amendment rights to be concerned about slippery slopes. we have seen that before. that is a thing. but the hard line that they have taken where there is nothing, we will try to stop everything, there is no earthly reason why the legislation to just clean up the mental health database so that these findings make their way into the correct database so that people who have agile health problems are not able to buy firearms, who was against that? nobody should be against that. but the republicans -- some republicans have tried to bedevil these causes over time. now they look like actual -- ty didn't do it when they have the opportunity. >> shannon: you talk about the mental health issue.
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representative massey out of kentucky when they were trying to do this big package on concealed carry, reciprocity, all these kinds of things. he was concerned that some of these mental health decisions would be databases that would allow federal agencies to scoop up all kinds of people. financial counseling. if you've gotten counseling for bulimia. there are real worries about how you define who ends up in this mental health bracket. >> anything is possible and the federal government is bad at doing things quite frequently. however, the issue here comes down to basically this. is their due process in place? whatever you do as it relates to mental health will be imperfect. for people by the way who get committed to mental health institutes against their will, there is due process for this. we have judges that can sit on these things. as long as there's due process i think that enough civil libertarians can come along with at least cleaning up the mental health. that shouldn't be that controversial. >> shannon: i think where there's not fortified to process is concerned that a name can just going to list. i want to talk about this issue. a very interesting article today. within an hour or so after that
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terrible shooting, there were all kinds of posts and gun control post and gun rights posts and things that were happening all over twitter. a lot of this is traced back to these bots. it's very interesting because apparently they will jump on any issue because all they want to do is divide. discord here. let me read a quote from a "new york times" article. it said they can target a contentious issue like racial relations are gone, they stir the pot and create public doubt and institutions like the police or media. any issue associated with extremist views is a ripe target. what they want to to do is just divide this country. >> they do. we apparently do too. not you and i, we want to bring the country together with love. >> shannon: very much. goodbye. every time. >> but it's not just russian bots. there are individuals and their organizations that buy in bulk on twitter. but also there are gross americans. the conduct that i watched on
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social media over the last two or three days, people accusing children are being fakers and crisis actors. really rotten stuff. it's like the russians can only barely keep up with the awfulness that a handful of americans are able to deliver through social media. it's up to individual americans to refuse them. whether they be russian, whether they be gross americans, whatever they are, the people that are trying to make this more of a fetid open sewer than it already is on social media, affirmatively reject these people. don't follow them, don't engage with them. don't participate with them. they are gross, leave them alone. >> shannon: and don't retweet them. >> no. >> shannon: on multiple levels levels. do not think about it. >> xing! >> shannon: just don't take the bait. >> decide to have a nice day instead of a rotten day. >> shannon: you have a nice evening, what's left of it. >> the next 45 minutes are going to be lit. >> shannon: have fun. the trump administration is now allowing health insurers to sell
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low cost less competence of medical plans as an alternative to those required under obamacare. at a time of rising premiums officials say the option is a boost for those who don't really need coverage but they need it in a minimal way. they don't qualify for the affordable care act subsidies so unlike obamacare plans, these lower-cost options are not required to cover pre-existing conditions, specific treatments or to provide unlimited benefits. president trump is denying an allegation that he forcibly kissed a woman in the lobby of his office building in 2006. "the washington post" reports a secretary says mr. trump kissed her for about 2 minutes. if the president tweeted today that incident never happened and question how it could with security cameras throughout trump tower. she responded to a reporter saying she would like the security camera footage if it exists to be released. the president's eldest son is in india this week on a business trip. advertisements and on most every major indian newspaper are heralding the arrival of donald trump jr. he posed for pictures today building from branded luxury
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complexes in four cities. those developers will the properties and then use the trump name for a licensing fee. devin nunes is asking ten important questions and he is warning of severe consequences for those who refuse to answer, including former fbi director james comey. we will break that down. and labor unions aren't addressed president trump handpicks supreme court justice could affect their future. we investigate what is at stake. and how much is nancy pelosi worth? that's what a heckler wanted to know. see how she answered. are democrats losing the battle over tax cuts? we will debate, straight ahead. we will debate, straight ahead. ♪ whoooo. when it comes to travel, i sweat the details. late checkout... ...down-alternative pillows... ...and of course, price. tripadvisor helps you book a... ...hotel without breaking a sweat. because we now instantly... ...search over 200 booking sites ...to find you the lowest price... ...on the hotel you want.
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>> shannon: republicans on the house intelligence committee say they've launched what they are calling phase two of their probe into the so-called dirty dossier. committee chairman devin nunes is demanding answers, sending a letter to several former and current officials, including fire fbi director james comey. he says that the answers are not in my marks i he may subpoena anyone who was uncooperative. under president george w. bush. joins us. good to have you. >> good evening, shannon. >> shannon: let's talk about this. he sending out a list of questions that are all kinds of things about when you know about the dossier, what did you know
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about who is funding it, could president obama know anything about it and he wants answers by march 2nd. some of these people aren't part of the current administration, do you think you will get them? >> i think it will be a mixed bag. i think some people will answer all of ten questions. i think there are others will give partial or nonsubstantive answers and there are some people who were ignore his questions entirely. i think at that point the ball is going to go into his court into how serious he is. he has a road ahead if you want to escalate this. he can subpoena these people, ultimately he can try to have them held in contempt and force them into federal court. we have a long way to go. i think his first instinct is to throw the net out there and see what he catches. >> shannon: here's what he set on tucker carlson tonight about what he is going after with these questions. >> these are questions that the public, not only should know and have a right to know, but i think they want to know. and that is wounded -- simple questions like when did you learn about the dossier? when did you learn that it was paid for by the democrats? when did you learn that this was
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a political piece. these are all questions that we should be able to get answers to, and we will. >> shannon: we don't know exactly what went to. our reporting is that it does include comey, james clapper, brandon. there could be some state department officials as well. we know that he said that's part of their probe, looking at what people within the state department knew. a number of state department folks under the taft administration have been out there publicly talking about this saying is there any way they could not say -- even though i talked about it publicly, i'm not going to answer your turn questions? >> they would be hard-pressed to make that argument. if on one hand they are out there beating the media drum and appearing in public talk about what they knew and when they knew it, i think it's that much harder for them to then rebuff him. the think the two things he's focusing on, number one, who got this? how far within the bloodstream of american law enforcement and intelligence community for the information and the dossier spread. and number two he's going to want to know when people got this information, did they know its source. where they made aware of the
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origin, or was it presented to them as neutral, impartial information? >> shannon: there are plenty of critics out there who are not happy with the way the chairman has handled this whole thing. a piece in the atlantic today, amy ziegler writes this. no oversight and weak oversight are, there's no comparison to his abuse of his authority to conduct fake oversight, which is toxic to the democratic process and dangerous to american national security. has this thing so politicized that too many people are going to have confidence in it? has he done something wrong is the chairman? is that our place to judge? >> i don't think he's done anything wrong. i certainly think that it has been politicized. it's kind of hard to argue when you have competing republican and democrat memos. ideally in a perfect world, this investigation would be able to move forward with some bipartisan support. if the democrats get their rebuttal memo out there, ideally they could work cooperative with the republican investigators just to get the facts. we work from both sides the importance of transparency and in an ideal perfect world we would have bipartisan cooperation to achieve that goal
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and put the facts on the table and see what they are. >> shannon: we are out of time but i have to ask you quickly, the letters we got from the fisa judge who basically said we got your request for more information about this, you should talk to the doj because they can probably help you. they've got more information. kind of a brushoff there. >> it doesn't surprise me, judges don't like answering questions like that. doesn't surprise me at all. >> shannon: not if they don't have to. always great to have it, thanks for coming in. >> thanks. >> shannon: it is unseasonably warm here in d.c., i am not complaining. eco-terrorism is heating up as well according to the fence. trace gallagher brings you the story of how one activist clears climate change worse than prison. he's out to prove it. you may have heard of bitcoin, but can cryptocurrency help bypass u.s. imposed sanctions? we will break that down. ♪ successful people have one thing in common. they read more. how do they find the time? with audible. audible has the world's largest selection of audiobooks. books like peak performance... and endurance.
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that has led to more environmental activist feeling the legal sting of consequences for tampering with the nation's fossil fuel infrastructure. trace gallagher is digging into the story for us tonight, joins us live. >> in an ongoing effort to stop construction of the dakota access pipeline, in october 2016, 5 environmental activists broke into pipeline facilities in four states and shutdown the valves. temporarily halting about 15% of u.s. oil consumption. the so-called valve turners gave themselves up and proudly confessed, saying they were trying to preserve life as we know it. one of those activists, 53-year-old michael foster, has been given three years in prison. here is foster right before the sentence was handed down. watch this. >> as long as the law prefers to protect corporate property and as long as we keep using the product, our rights to life and
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liberty are in danger. >> the liberal "huffington post" described him as a mild-mannered mental health -- prosecutors say don't mix it differently, painting him and his cohorts who have yet to be tried as terrorists. saying that violence and vandalism are crimes even if it's done under the cloak of environmentalism. they also point out just because nobody was injured or killed, doesn't mean it couldn't have happened. federal regulators have warned that suddenly shutting down the pipeline can "have significant consequences such as death, injury, and economic and environmental harm." 84 members of congress, including four democrats have taken it a step further, sending a letter to attorney general jeff sessions asking if pipeline saboteurs can be prosecuted as terrorists. so for the doj has not responded, but there are also efforts on the state level to crackdown on eco-terrorism, so while environmental activist about to up the fight,
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authorities are working to up the penalties. separately, we should note there's a new video game where players used a mythical native american thunderbird to damage or destroy oil and gas machinery. not surprisingly, the game is not sitting well with supporters of the oil and gas industry. shannon. >> shannon: very interesting development. thank you very much. the supreme court today declining to hear two separate cases out of california that touch on the scope of the second amendment. in deciding not to hear those cases, the supreme court let stand a lower court's ruling upholding the state's ten day waiting period on gun purchases and another that imposes fees on firearms to transactions to fund background checks. it is a supreme court case being watched by both the business and political communities. testing the ability of public unions to force employees to pay dues, even if they say they want nothing to do with the union's political efforts.
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i could also test the burgeoning power of president trump's first appointee to the supreme court. >> worked for years as an illinois state employee and pays about $550 annually to the powerful public sector ohmic sector labor union. >> i work for health care family services and i'm forced to pay money for a union that then supports political causes that i don't agree with. >> he says he doesn't want to destroy the union and thanks workers do have a right to organize, but he opposes having to pay for a union's lobbying efforts, especially at a time when illinois is facing crippling financial crisis. >> in many states, workers are forced to give monies to a union whether they want to or not, and when they do that they are funding union politics, and not all workers want to support that union agenda just because they've taken a government job. >> now his free speech fight is before the u.s. supreme court. the justices are being asked to overturn a four decades old ruling over so-called fair share
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fees, which allow states to require government employees to pay money to support and collective bargaining and other union activities whether they join a union or not. labor leaders oppose so-called free writing by workers like him and say they have a legal duty to advocate for all employees. >> everybody deserves the power to win better wages and benefits and retirement security whether you are in a union or you are not in a union. that is how we build an economy that works for everyone. >> the supreme court deadlocked on the issue two years ago, just after justice antonin scalia died suddenly. and his replacement, chosen by president trump, is now expected to be the deciding vote this time around. justice neil gorsuch faced strong labor union opposition at his confirmation hearing for last spring, but told senators his record backing workers is solid. >> if we are going to pick and choose cases out of 2700, i can point you to so many in which i have found for the plaintiff
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dominic plaintiff in an employment action or a firm finding of the agency of some sort for a worker. >> experts of the legal and political stakes here could well determine the viability of the union movement in the u.s. >> certainly opponents of unions see this case as something that they hope will substantially diminish the power of labor. but make no mistake this case is a very serious potential blow to the union movement. >> union membership nationwide is now less than 11% of the workforce, but about a third of government employees are members. a supreme court ruling is expected by late june. senior pentagon officials say defense secretary james mattis will make his recommendation about transgender people serving in the military to president trump. could be tonight or tomorrow. defense officials are not saying what he will recommend. they say future announcements will come from the white house. last year president trump called for a ban on transgenders
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serving in the military. not buying it. nancy pelosi shouted down by a heckler as she tries to talk tax cuts. what it means for the democratic favorite talking points. and missiles dropping like rain. that's how the u.n. describes the latest bombing by syria on its own citizens. that is straight ahead. ♪
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night about white house senior advisor jared kushner facing new scrutiny over securing foreign financing for his private company. tonight "the new york times" is reporting that kushner may be at odds with chief of staff john kelly, who is trying to revamp the security appearance process. in the wake of a domestic abuse scandal involving a top former a. kelley is said to be working to strip clearances -- kushner is reportedly resisting the move. kelly has issued a statement saying he's full confidence. has told him as much that there is no truth to any suggestion. also they will reporting tonight saying that the white house has said the changes will not affect jared kushner regarding security clearances. we will stay on that. house minority leader nancy pelosi was heckled just a few minutes into a town hall event in arizona today. she was addressing the "disastrous" effects of the republican tax law when this happened. >> those people are not in deadening poverty, but some are. most people after strobel --
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>> how much are you worth, nancy? >> we are not talking about that. in .. a mother of five, i can speak louder than anybody. >> shannon: and if you couldn't hear that, they were asking her how much is she worth. let's talk it with guy benson. great to see about tonight, thanks for being with us. >> hey, shannon. >> hi shannon. >> shannon: "the new york times" has a piece out about how the tax plan continues to pull better and better and that now that things are showing up in her paychecks and they are getting bonuses people don't hate it like they thought they were going to come of "the new york times" adding this. democrats have done little to counter the messaging and can see that it has had an effect, along with a series of high-profile company announcements of bonuses, raises, benefits or other attributed to tax savings. what say you? >> i think there's no question democrats have dropped the ball on really driving home a compelling message around the tax bill. i think that that happened on
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two fronts. first, during the legislative fight, i would have actually appealed to that human nature greed part and maybe had a message that was more you deserve more, because if everyone has access, corporations, and the wealthiest among us are going to get so much money, then the middle class, you deserve more. that would have been the better message. but where we really have fallen down is that we have taken our foot off the pedal. we have basically seeded this conversation to republicans, to trump, and we have been following those shiny objects that the trump administration -- the president himself likes to throw out. and we cannot do that, because i'm afraid this is going to be shades of 2016 where are we allowed to control the conversation, we did not put out a strong economic message, but it's early before the 2018 elections, we still have time to pick it back up. >> shannon: there is a lot of time. you know historically this is
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not going to be a good election for the party in power, the one whose president is in power. we keep seeing the generic ballot between democrats and republicans go back and forth. it looks like democrats, another bowl puts them pulling out to a lead again. and so much can happen before november. how much is this tax cut is the economic message going to be part of what drives voters to the polls in the fall? >> the republican is going to be a huge factor getting them to the polls because the economy is doing well and the tax law is working. the democrats don't have a messaging problem about the tax law, they have a reality problem about the tax law. they told us that this was a frankenstein monster that was going to be an apocalypse in the end of the world and then that didn't happen. and then people started seeing bonuses coming into their paychecks and they set those are only crumbs. turned out those work sort of insulting dismissals to people who thought that a thousand, 2,000 bucks is actually a pretty big deal in their lives to their pocketbook. now i see nancy pelosi today referring to the law as unpatriotic as it hits a new high and public polling.
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26-point bounce into months from "the new york times" poll. and it's because the democrats told everyone acts was going to happen and the opposite of x happened and they made this bed for themselves. >> shannon: a lot of folks think that there messaging was very strong on the front end and even she concedes that maybe now after the fact it hasn't been. there are months and months and months before the fall election. we know there will be many twists and turns. i want to talk to both about this back-and-forth now that the president has launched with regard to which administration was tougher on russia. he tweeted this. he said i have been much tougher on russia than obama, just look at the facts. total fake news. ben rhodes, obviously a deputy national security advisor under the obama white house said this. obama mobilized our allies to impose broad, coordinated sectoral sanctions on the russian economy over violation of ukraine sovereignty. if you have an even implement at the congressional sanctions that were passed over your objection. then in today's white house briefing sarah sanders had this to say about how this administration has dealt with
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russia. >> i can assure you russia is not excited about that. he has helped export energy to eastern europe. i can assure you russia is not excited about that. he has put and upheld sanctions that the obama administration put in place. he has upheld those. he has closed three diplomatic properties that were rushes here in the united states. he has taken a number of actions against russia and put pressure on him. the assault on the ukrainians for a number of places that obama was too weak and refused to take and put pressure on russia for this president has. >> shannon: quick response from both of you? wins this round? >> the one thing she left off her list was that he also pulled out his pom-poms for putin at every chance he's gotten and has not stood up in front of the american people and said what he's going to do to make sure that this type of interference,
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this attack doesn't happen again nine months from now. that's what we are waiting to hear. >> shannon: fair point? >> interesting to see the trump administration going on offense on this. i'm not sure they want to get into a fight on who was weaker on the russians. there are some solid points that sanders made and i think that there are some legitimate criticisms of trump on that front. i do find it a bit much to be lectured on toughness vis-a-vis russia from ben rose of the obama administration, who's boss ridiculed mitt romney in 2012, the 80's want foreign policy back. he was right, obama mocked him for it. ben rose was leading the charge and i was trying to revise history. >> shannon: great always to see both of you. thanks for coming in. >> thanks. >> shannon: as lawmakers look at possible gun-control legislation, with the golden state's bond violence restraining order be one of the answers, or is it just another second amendment trapdoor? second amendment trapdoor? stick ♪
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♪ >> shannon: under its call to get tougher on guns, president trump ordering the justice department today to pass a possible regulatory ban on bum stocks. the insects every used to simulate automatic fire in the las vegas routing. the white house today also signaling it should, could be open to setting an age limit for the purchase of ar-15s, allows
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anyone living with a troubled person, that they think is trouble, to petition a court to temporarily take away their gun rights and guns, called a gun violence restraining order. would it work? joins us now here in d.c., great to see where today. >> you too. >> shannon: i want to play from the briefing today where sarah sanders fielded a question about potential age limits for ar-15s. here's what she said. >> does the president believe there should be an age limit for those who by the ar-15? as you know the shooter in florida was a teenager when he first bought the ar-15. >> i know there are currently laws in certain states that restrict that. in terms of whether or not we make that federal policy, that hasn't been determined. i think that is certainly something that is on the table for us to discuss and that we expect to come up over the next couple of weeks. >> shannon: how seriously do you think administration may consider that? >> that is overly jaw-dropping statement for gun-control
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supporters and for second amendment supporters. it's jaw-dropping. i've interviewed the president multiple times before he was president, has said he absolutely is strong second amendment, has understand it that no gun-control laws ever reduce crime. the fact that they are saying that is very interesting politically because it means that they think that they are losing on this battle and its political. they know that raising a limit on 18-21 on a specific gun that is used -- that has killed according to dianne feinstein, about 40 people a year is not going to change the crime statistics in america. >> shannon: you and i both know there are plenty of other guns out there that fire more rounds per minute that have a longer range. i think it's just because this guns is so often used and to people it looks scary. but it is strange that you would limit any one firearm. >> it's intellectually dishonest, it really is. it's purely political. the whole concept is purely political. it has nothing to do with crime,
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zero. you know there's 13,000 crimes a year of violent, gun violence, terrible. 17 children killed in a school, horrific. we all want to do something. none of us want to get shot or have anyone we love get shot or have children witness this thing -- witness something is horrendous. but this is not going to do anything, absolutely not going to do anything. >> argument that he would have found a way to get these kinds anyway? my understanding is he had a mix of legal and illegal guns. >> if that shooter should never have had guns because he is mentally ill and the fbi was called in. they had repeated calls from police. he probably should have been prosecuted and then probably is a felony he would have been banned and he would not -- that being said, he was a psychopathic homicidal killer. we think that he cares about the law? of course not. he would have done something. he would have blown up the school. >> shannon: what you think of the students? they are heartbroken and they
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say if someone could have stopped him getting easy access to these guns, my friends and my teachers may still be alive. >> i sympathize. i thought about this the past week. if this was in my high school, if this happened and they came in and killed my friends in front of me, i would absolutely be right out of those cameras saying do something, grown-ups, do something, this should not be happening. and they are right, it shouldn't be happening. whatever we can do to stop dangerously mentally ill people from getting guns and getting access to guns we should do. and we can do that by the background check. he should have been stopped and the bass drum track just like we saw in las vegas -- i'm sorry come in the texas church shooting where he was mentally ill and had domestic violence. the military has fixed that and the white house to their credit has fixed and put i think 15,000 more people under background checks. >> shannon: the conversation will clearly continue because it's not
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"fox news @ night." in the meantime, most-watched, most trusted, and was grateful you spent the evening with us. good night from >> i signed the memorandum directing the attorney general to propose regulations to ban all devices that turn illegal weapons into machine guns. >> the president has said no american child should ever feel unsafe in their school. >> the president said russia didn't metal, that it didn't have an impact and it certainly wasn't with help from the trump campaign. >> we are not talking about that. in any event.
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