pushing a policy agenda and that's what they were looking for in the guests. it wasn't just one student, colten hob and andrew clyne said the same thing. now shannon bream is next. she can't wait to watch tonight. >> something tells me you're going to bring down the house. love to hear from you. >> thanks. here is what we have coming up tonight. >> breaking news from parkland. the sheriff said there's questions about an armed deputy who stayed outside the school. we'll visit with an outspoken sheriff who met with the president. and the chairman and former police to discuss the fierce defense of the amendment. and going from tax cuts to gun control. sports new message could possibly help them in november.

>> as president trump plans to turn to food delivery, a fox news at night exclusive. >> welcome. i'm shannon bream. devastated. broward israel describing his reaction to the revelation that one of his deputies assigned to douglas high school never went inside. nra taking the position that more guns may have prevented the attack.

we have more information tonight. we have cpac in nearby maryland on information about the nra and we begin with the broward county's sheriff deputy. we're learning more. >> how many childrens could have been saved. that's being asked tonight as the south florida community comes to grips with the revolution that the police officer that was charged to watch the building stood outside. scott israel said that scott peterson waited outside the building for four minutes as gunshots were inside. he was with a gun and uniform. after interviewing witnesses, israel suspended peterson without pay and the deputy chose instead to resign.

>> what i saw was a deputy arrive at the west side of building 12. take up a position. and he never went in. when we in law enforcement arrived at an active shooter, we go in and address the target. devastated and sick to my stomach. there are no words. >> four minutes, the 54-year-old officer waited outside. the shooting lasted six. reportedly the palm beach sheriff's office is protecting peterson. >> and they are continued to be pressed on why they failed to follow up on warning tips. >> that's right, two tips before this shooting by the fbi.

including january 5th for someone close to cruz who called the center. they said they call center did not follow protocol and did not pass the tip along that this kid was thinking about shooting up a school and not passing that tip to the miami field off. >> let me be clear. there was a mistake made. it is our job to make sure that we do everything in our power to make sure that does not happen again. it is not easy work. i'm not making excuses because what happened was a tragedy. a tragedy. >> now florida's governor, the nra and president trump pummelling the fbi. and public losing confidence in his agency. >> live for us in south florida. thank you so much, brian.

>> now with thie stunning news. >> good evening, shannon, the nra making comments. wayne the head of the nra democratized those calling for stricter gun control laws, this is after a woke of protests in tallahassee and elsewhere in the country for those calling for gun control measures. lapierre says laws only succeed when people follow them. he said that we leave schools as open targets. he blamed the shootings on what he called the failure of school security and family and mental

health system and the unbelievable failure of the fbi. the nra says those calling for stricter gun laws are opportunist and exploiting the high school tragedy. >> the opportunist, for them it is not a safety issue. it is a political issue. they care more about control and more of it. their goal is to eliminate the second amendment and our firearms freedoms so they could eradicate all individual freedoms. the shameful tragedy is right out of a playbook on a poisonous movement. >> lapierre is a supporter of the president. he said not even trump's election can change the tide of socialism. the president spent many weeks at the white house posting gun

conversations. he said he agrees with the nra that there should be armed security at the schools. this is what he tweeted out. specifically he called it highly trained gun adept teachers and coaches. he also tweeted, quote, i'll be strongly pushing background checks with emphasis on mental health and end sale of bump stocks. congress is in a mood to do something on this issue. and he says i hope and that goes further than what lapierre says. he said they're on board for changes. >> they're not going to walk into the school if 20 percent of the teachers have guns. 20 or 40 percent. what i recommend doing is the people that do carry we give them a bonus. we give them a bonus. >> >> what exactly ends up coming out of washington is unclear. perhaps the president will talk

tomorrow at cpac and anything else he wants to discuss. he's got the floor here. shannon. >> it will be a rousing day this. they welcome him excitedly. thank you so much. all of a sudden the missed fbi tip and then revealing a stunning set of failures. and henderson sheriff charles stewart mcdonald discussing possible solutions to the issue of school violence. >> good to be here. >> let's look at broward county and there was a deputy, he was set up and position outside. according to witnesses and video he they ever went in. this is what sheriff israel had to say. >> when the shooter was still inside the building. >> yes, he was. >> what should have been done. >> went in and address the k l kill

killer. kill the killer. >> he said this is what should have happened. what is your take? >> officers trained to move through the threat and take care of the situation. it sounds to me this was an officer who was totally overwhelmed by the stress of the situation who evident my wasn't properly trained. something happened that caused him to fail to do an unnatural thing to get in the gunfire. but that's the oath he takes. we hope all officers sign up for when they sign up for the job. it is a tough job. putting a badge on someone doesn't make them adept. that's something we need to be aware of. >> folks trained to be at schools, maybe they like students.

resource officers don't think they'll face this. they'll think about it every day now. >> i think it changed a lot. back when dare became the program that put offices in schools with kids, they were there for teaching and mentoring and a lot of times the officers that went there were people like you said who specifically were children oriented but not necessarily the guys that would be on the tactical team and working the beat. that was not always the case but that's a lot of it. what happened over the years, the armed guard has followialle the dare officers. we shifted in our thinking from columbine to now. there needs to be more put in to the officers who do have that responsibility to know that -- that they're not there just to mentor kids. their job is a dangerous one. if it happens on their watch, they're usually there by themselves.

>> they often are. let's talk about your meeting with the president today. he talked about all kinds of things. background checks and mental health and raising the age on long gun purchases and bump stocks. what do you think he talked about may come to fruition. >> one thing i was impressed with, thought it would be a photo op. those guys around the table had great ideas. i could see the president really, a lot of compassion for what happened. but once he sees this momentum to make something half positively. he was very open in the mental health issue which i think has been overlooked. that's serious in this nation. i know it is in north carolina that. people fall through the cracks. we heard from -- from attorney general pam bondy and the commissioner with kentucky state police about some programs they

had. the fusion centers, gathering information. a lot of good things going on. we heard from the mental health side and ideas they have that they like to see put in place too. the president was adamant about arming the right kind of personnel. i'm one of the few people that goes along with that. it is not giving anybody a gun and hoping they do what they need to do. it is training. i like to say in the skies over this nation, we have armed passengers flying on aircraft all the time. they're called air marshals and nobody knows who they are or where they are. but the fact they're there and don't stand out certainly has been a large contribution since we haven't had hijackings since

9 9 9/11. >> thank you very much for stopping in town and we know the things the president talked about will be helpful to officers. >> i have hope for that. >> thank you so much. both ahead of the nra and right-wing french marlen la pen addressed cpac and warned good big the government power. >> if the socialist take over the house and the senate and god forbid they give the white house again, our american freedoms could be lost. >> we need to convey our ideal for the media. and the education to stop the domination of the liberals and socialist. >> i thought the speakers generated plenty of controversy today. we talked about it with the chairmen of the conservative

union. and former advisory to hillary clinton. >> thank you. >> hi. i want to say more of what wayne lapierre had to say and we'll get your reaction. >> their solution is to make you, all of you, less free. then it is just a short hop to the systematic destruction of our most basic freedoms in this country. family, faith, individual responsibility and self-destiny. >> that goes way beyond talking about potential changes about gun laws. he says this is about government control. >> i'm curious what matt thinks. he was there and seen wayne several times. he looks nervous. he says that and not speaking to me as the democrat he's afraid

of. i think he's talking to matt to reassure him of things. i think what happened in the last week with parkland is unnerving. it should be. he's facing a trifecta that they have in the past which is one polling among republicans that are sky high they want changes. two, they have got this incredibly powerful group of students who -- who are just changing the nature of -- of the debate and three i think they got a president that they're worried about will cave. he's saying, i know the nra and the nra knows me. i think he wants to go further than they're comfortable with. i can see why he's upset. the rhetoric is hardly very -- very you know, grieving or conciliatory. >> you were there, what is your take? >> my take is i'm proud of wayne for coming to cpac and for

addressing the issue. it would have been easier for him to take a pass and hope passion subsides and to talk about this later. but cpac was here. it is the appropriate thing for the country for us all to put it on the table. in this fight for owhim or law. before we rush to judgment that it is about the guns and about restricting guns, we have to -- we have to have a cooler head. we have to think about what is going on in society. what is going on in society, a turn to violence. a turn to violence unlike we see in societies and countries. there's something wrong with america and the heart and soul of america. we could talk about guns but it is deeper than that. until we talk about the heart, we won't solve this. >> it is a multi-pronged problem. i want to talk about the other

controversy today for you guys. this is marianne la pen speaking today. here's what she had to say. >> you have succeeded in putting conservatives right back on the political agenda. it is built on what you achieved. so both sides of the atlantic a conserve agenda may prevail. >> conservative here and in europe could be different. i like where you're headed. we need a socialist la pen. help us understand what cpac is thinking. european conservatives are different. >> i think people see too much of my voice and faith. i don't think the problem is i'm not on enough television shows. i'm happy to be on with glen. this is the problem with lingo.

marion la pen is not a national socialist. she's trying to fight socialism. she used the word conservative over and over. what does she mean? she means the family is the building block of society. she hat personal tragedy of a differen divorce and a single mom, he's pro-life and doesn't believe once there's fetal pain there should be abortions. this is a bold statement. she doesn't believe the welfare state will solve our problems. i wish people would stop attacking people before they sit down and listen to them. she gave a compelling speech. >> ten seconds, anything you like to say? >> i don't agree with anything she said. obviously she's blurring her and lapier lapierre. they didn't gather about guns.

she's fear mongering and lapierre is feeding off it. this is not what the organization is trying to do. that's the reality. there's stuff going on in the world. i can't disagree more. >> i imagine. sometimes you disagree. thanks for coming on. wisconsin is in the process of overhauling the welfare system. responding to the critics and what happens in the badger state. how it could affect you. and giving gun control a cry as a rallying cry. will it back fire or benefit them. is the mainstream media being truthful about russian collusion. stay with me.

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>> democrats fought hard against tax cuts but clinton's stronghold in the 26th district the benefits may change minds. yes, it encourages me to vote. yes, it makes it more likely to vote republican. that is from a voter who stayed away in 2016. on the topic of guns, democrats say they will embrace gun control this time around.

not necessarily everywhere. according to one aide, it is for the going to a top down every state strategy. some places it will work. suburban directs and other places it will not like north carolina that. chris is here to discuss. thank you. >> how you doing? >> this is a tough topic but democrats think it could be a winner in the fall. not everywhere. what do you say? >> this is not like taxes and other economic issues. this is a social issue and it is -- we saw it last night and today, something remarkable. the -- the cable news network cnn had a town hall. rubio and they heap the scorn and they pummel him. and then the nra dehumanizing

his opponents. anybody in favor of changes here is coming for your guns and you should be afraid of them. there is powder kegs underneath this issue. the democrats found out about it when they followed a ban. you do this in a way that upsets voters in rural districts, it has terrible consequences. democrats lost seats in 1994. but on the other side, republicans for the emotionality of this issue, especially with suburban residents and the places where this school is and especially for moms, if the republican continue demonstrate by november they have it doesn' be gun control, but they have to

quietly celebrate they have stopped responses from newtown and las vegas, they're going to have to do something. >> democrats playing this carefully too and there was an article where they say, as issue continues to dominate headline, some democrats particularly with vulnerable democrats in red states. this may not be their battle cry. >> how about this? if you're the democratic party and you need a 50-state strategy. if they want to win back the house, they got to be able to pinpoint these districts and have things that work there. if you do a national strategy, i'll put it this way, if you cannot be with the nra and take money from them -- >> yeah. >> there's democratic senators that will be in trouble. in every election, a question is how far can you stretch to

persuade voters and on issues like gun control and mass shootings, the lines get taut quickly. >> good to see you and your glasses. smarter than ever. come back soon. >> yes, ma'am. >> there's new charges against the president's former campaign manager, campaign chairman paul manfort. he put out a statement saying the allegations against manfort have nothing to do with russia and 2016 election interference, collusion. he's confident that he will be acquitted and violations of his constitutional rights will be be remedied. we have more on the new indictments. good evening. >> in the former trump aides are charged with more financial crimes in federal jurisdictions and washington, d.c. and an

indictment in virginia over bank and tax fraud. it is called a legal pile-on as memos over surveillance election enter a new phase. >> the intelligence community wants the counter memo out this week. a white house spokesperson said there will be no holdup on their end if national security concerns are resolved. >> once it has protected methods we will support its release. >> just like the staff memo released earlier this month, a source said it will likely require the president to declassify. it illustrates abuses during the 2016 election. they found that it was funded by

the dnc and clinton campaign. committee republicans say the counter memo is unlikely 0 directly challenge the fuinding. >> they're not acting politically and doing their work on the american people's behal.- i want to see the representation. a lot of allegations were not correct. >> david kramer a former official has invoked his fifth amendment right not to testify about the russian sources. those briefed on the dossier with a critical link in the handoff to the fbi after the 2016 election. >> asked why kramer took the

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>> war on poverty or war on the poor, depends on who you ask and we talk about walker's welfare plan. one democratic state rep claiming this. instead of helping families governor walker is ramming through regulation that will make their lives harder. the governor says going after

the families is going to fire up his base. great to see you. >> glad be to be with you. >> let's talk about what got them upset. there's stricter work requirements. people excluded from welfare programs if they have cars or homes. what do you have? >> they say it is making it hard. we say it is simple, it is about getting a job. we got 3 percent unemployment. only other team we have it at 3 percent was when thompson was the governor if 90s. he was a leader for welfare reform for the same reason we're pushing it. we got 80,000 to 100,000 jobs. we need to get people off the sidelines and in the workforce and we could do that with the job training and the work

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congress woman said many people would welcome the absence of ice and she called it a stupid idea from a childish president. she said when other governing bodies and state and local governments disagree with his policy, his reaction is to throw a temper tantrum than to go home. it is clear that the president's trust is not just bluster. the administration has been stepping up their fight on immigration. the department has demanded cities and counties and state risk losing grant money for public safety which is a big deal. because of its sanctuary status, california bars state employers from sharing information about employees without a subpoena. acting ice director thomas holm

warned california last month to hold on tight for more targeted enforcement operations. last night during this show, he told the california -- he said california refused to notify ice agents about immigrants in local jail means more work and more danger. listen to him. >> now with the jail release those people to the street, i got to send a whole team out to find these people. that's a danger to my officers and we have to arrest somebody. >> so far ice has not commented on the president's threat to pull agents out of california. >> all right. thank you very much. >> time now for our real news roundup. exclusive reveal tonight that former playmate handwritten notes were written a decade

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>> an aftermath of the florida shooting. many are calling this a culture of death. here's a democratic senator last week. >> we to have smart gun safety

laws. we cannot tolerate a society and live in a country when our babies are slaughtered. >> some pro-lifers are take issue with that. is this a fair comparison? great to have you with us. you wrote on this and issues of life and culture and protecting your children. what is your take? >> i wrote this piece at town hall today. i want to make clear that the issue of gun safety and gun control deserves a fair and reasonable hearing. i think it is a separate issue. i have no quarrel with that regardless of the people's positions.

my concern here -- my concern is media coverage and how the media covers different issues differently. you brought up senator harris's vote, she was one of many congress the democrats all but six who voted against a bill that would have barred elective late term elections. something popular among the people. democrats uniformly voted it down. what we saw this week is the legislature kill a law that would have banned assault weapons in tallahassee. one of our rival networks tweeted a list of the republicans that voted no and they were highlighting how much money they took from the nra. that did not exist with the abortion lobby when they voted for a life and death issue again the strong wishes of the

american people. to me that's strikes and unavoidable. >> we had a piece by the "chicago tribune". he said do some have more life because they're powerful because they don't have bull horns? >> correct. i think she used a horrible choice of words when she said babies. you talk about abortion, that's a radical position. the left says we need to get our laws intact. we some of the most extreme abortion laws in the world. it is ridiculous that we allow abortions up to the late term and he hit it on the head. you look at hypocrisy and media coverage. i did not see once they call any of the politicians and say they're bought. but we hear about right-wing

being bought. that's a problem because both sides have interests. the distinction is that you see the people on the left to get forget about human life when it is in the womb. it is shocking and appalling but that's a conversation we need to have. harris said -- i said really, you think babies being absolu slaughtered? >> in the meantime, dana has gotten a lot of heat in the last 24 hours, beyond that because of her position in supporting gun rights and opposing some of the new proposals for -- for -- gun control. here's what she said about how the media covers this. >> crying white mothers are ratings gold. to you and many in the legacy media in the back.

[applause]. notice crying white mothers, because had are thousands of grieving black mothers in chicago every weekend. and you don't see town halls for them, do you? >> 15 seconds, reaction from you both. i'll start with you. >> i think some of the things that dana said and she's on the stage behind me are not what i would have said and they're a bit much. she is under siege on cnn and handled herself pretty well. >> charlie. >> look at the death toll in chicago, it'll surpass parkland. 15 individuals killed by gun violence. a big problem in the urban cities. >> we would all like to have a town hall about those topics. thank you both very much. thank you for joining us tonight. most watched and most trusted and you spent the evening with us. good night from washington.

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♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." like most people, you probably haven't been watching a lot of cnn lately, but you may have heard they staged a televised town hall meeting on gun control last night. it seems like one of those cultural moments worth being aware of, for educational purpose, i want to show you a short clip of what happened. here it is.