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grab a seat, have some fun. are you ready to have a party tonight? together we are all going to save america with a little luck. are you happy with the last year? the progress? [cheers and applause] anyway, welcome to "hannity." we are broadcasting live tonight from cpac, we have a lot of breaking news, we'll get into thee course of the next hour. the president is now taking the lead to protect america's schoolchildren in schools by -- are you happy about that -- by holding listening sessions offering up ideas and solutions, meanwhile, the democrats predictably, the abusively biased news media, they are playing this blame game, hoping to score cheap political points in their approach for more gun control. also for new tonight, on this vy stage, nra ceo executive vice president, wayne lapierre blasted critics for trying to blame his organization for the tragedy in florida. then you've got the fake news

network cnn proving that they are incapable of having an affair, intellectual, fact-based debate about guns in america, and pro-second amendment speakers like dana loesch, here with us tonight, was shattered down, called a murderer, and worse, and a student now accusing today the fake news network of actually scripting the questions. is f not the first time cnn has done this. we will expose all of this. are you ready for our breaking news opening monologue? [cheers and applause] >> sean: let's edit. ♪ in the wake of this tragic school shooting in florida, president trump is showing some very strong leadership. he's now trying to find ways to keep america's schools safe. our kids safe. during and at what has listening session today, the president offered up ideas and solutions. let's take a listen to what he had to say. >> we have to harden our

schools, not soften them. a gun free zone to a killer or somebody that wants to be a killer, that's like going in for the ice cream. that's like, here i am, take me. we have to get smarter on gun free zones. we may say that it's a gun free zone, that means that nobody has a gun except them. nobody's going to be shooting bullets and the other direction. and they see that as such a beautiful target. they live for gun free zones. i think a concealed permit for having teachers, and letting people know that there are people in the building with guns, you won'tve have, in my opinion, you won't have the shootings.wa these people are cowards. they are not going to walk into a school if 20% of the teachers have guns.it but maybe 10% or 40%. what i would recommend doing a sleep be but i do carry, we give them a bonus, we give them a little bit of a bonus. but the nra is ready to do things. and people like to blame them,

and they do have power and all ofth that, they actually came up with certain of the rules and regulations that we have now. we are going to have to toughen -- i told them, we are going to have to toughen them up. we really do have to have offense of measures, also. i know people don't like talking about it. but we need offense of as well as defenses. we have to be totally defensive. but if we don't have offense of, within the schools, we -- you are just kidding yourselves, folks. >> sean: you have to give the president a lot of credit because instead of engaging in the same old tired back and forth, repeating the samee talking points, the politicians, the media used, he's coming up with solutions, solving the problem. here's o the bottom line. we have a choice and all of this. do we keep having the exact same political debate that we've had ongoing since columbine, that's not going to change anybody's mind, or do we actually fix the problem? to be want to protect our

children? after 9/11, we fixed the problem of aircraft security and i am aa strong -- i'm a very strong supporter of the second amendment. and i'm sure people in this remark, as well tonight. predictably, the left and the liberal media, instead of talking about getting rid of the second amendment, talking about compensating ells like australi australia, let's take politics out of it. how d do we keep our kids safe n school? the president think he wants solutions, and that is where he satt down with students and parents and governors and state and local officials. he talked and heed listened. by the way, he wants to have a positive impact. this is a simple truth, the left in the media can talk all they u want about banning certain types of weapons used by these evil maniacs, but the thing is, you could never stop the evil that exists in some people's hearts. and if you take away and ban one weapon, these killers, those with evil u intent, will use

something else. we've already seen this happen. let'she go back to the virginia tech shooting, the deadliest shooting in the history of this country, and in that case, the shooter used pistols. what the left, the media cannot seem to comprehend, or don't want to comprehend, is that evil exists in this world. there are murderers, there are, there are child molesters, there is evil. byse the way, if they don't usea rifle, and the case of the school shootings, than it is going to end up being a handgun the next time. after that, it'll be anotherpo type of weapon or tool. remember the boston bombers used explosives that were made from everyday products that are readily available. other terrorists have used trucks, vans, and cars. others have used knives. what would ban everything? as much is left in the media want to think of the government can fully stop these killers, doll mark with regulations and laws, they cannot. people that have this evil, they will always find a way to cause

pain and suffering and inflict maximum carnage. the only thing that comes with banning weapons is that you will infringe on the rights of constitutional, law-abiding american citizens that have the right to protect themselves and their families. what's missing are real solutions to protect these innocent kids. speakers at the white house and is listening session, they brought up a lot of great ideas andns solutions that we've been discussing on this show. in the case of the florida school shooting, they were warning signs all over the place about thew shooter, we knew he was mentally ill, we knew he was unstable, we knew he was capable of doing something. the students all seemed to know what in the same goes for the teachers. they were reports that police were actually called to his home 39 times over a seven year period. a pretty good indicator. he got into trouble in school, he threatened students. he wasn't allowed to carry a backpack at the school, and he

was eventually expelled from the school. the "miami herald" reports that school officials actually sent out an email warning teachers about him. then you have a social media footprint, pictures with guns and knives and all kinds of disturbing photos. then the fbi, they were called and warned specifically, twice about him, and they did not follow up. in other words, every bit of evidence to indicate that this was going to happen was right there in front of us. people saw something, said something, and nothing happened. they did nothing. we are also learning two new disturbing pieces of information to nights. according to that report, the school security cameras were on a nearly half hour delay, which slow down law enforcement in their ability to capture him. the broward county sheriff's saying that the army security officer on the school's campus didn't even enter the building with thewh shooting was taking place.st instead the officer took a

defensive position outside of the school. this is why we need to solutions, we need ideas, we need to fix the problem, we need to protect our kids. here's the thing.or we arty know what works. there are things that we use every day in office buildings in airports and courthouses and other government buildings and other facilities. if you want to solve the problem a security and if it's not really that hard. every school in this country needs to have a comprehensive threat assessment that could be done by retired or former police or retired former military, special ops. these schools are soft targets. we need to harden the parameters around these schools. for those of you worried about the cost, really? will we be cheap when it comes to defending our kids? i also guarantee you, these former officers and veterans, they would line up and volunteered to help their community to keep our kids safe.

these assessments needs to include ways to control every point of entry, and from there, if these experts determined that it's needed, you need to put an i.d. system in place, zero exceptions, they need to know everybody but goes into that school. i've worked in two office buildings in new york, one forou radio, one for tv. if you a don't have a work i.d., you are not allowed entry. visitors are vetted through a security system and you must show your i.d. then you are usually checked in case you have any metal objects. from there, on a case-by-case basis, if some schools needed, they should haveve metal detects and other security measures. finally, you have to have an armedy security present at evey school in america and you can hire -- right? [cheers and applause] retired veterans and police officers. schools can noe longer be soft targets. you have to have people there who can fight back and challenge and confront any potential threat.

when you think about the statistic that was brought up with the white house listening session yesterday, the average school shooting lasts only 3 minutes. it takes police on average six to 8 minutes to respond, which is incredibly fast. but why not have somebody already on the scene that is armed, that is trained, and ready to respond and save lives at a moment's notice? we take potential security threats against politicians. look at the security at the oscars for these prima donna celebrities. they have every ounce of security you could dream of. why wouldn't we do the same thing for your children? in addition, to all of that, we also need a much better way to identify and help these kids that are obviously in trouble. there has to be a system put in place to spot kids that we think are disturbed. we need to help them, get them the help that they need. and we need to put a focus on social media, whether it is

someone physically monitoring it, or easier -- somebody reports was going on in the case of this particular kid. now also on the stage, earlier today, the nra ceo executive vice president wayne lapierre was here at cpac. he delivered a fiery response to liberals and the media that are trying to blame his organization for what happened in florida. he also challenged them to do more to protect schools and protect our kids. here's what he said. >> chris murphy. nancy pelosi, and more, cheered on by the national media, eager to blame the nra, and call for e government control. they hate the nra. they hate the second amendment. they hate individual freedom. in the rush of calls from our government, they've also revealed their true selves.

the elites don't care not one whit about america's school system. and school children it's a bizarre fact that in this country, our jewelry stores all over this country are more important than our children. our banks, our airports, or nba games, our nfl games, our office buildings, our movie stars, our politicians. they are all more protected than our children at school. does that make any sense? to anybody? >> sean: wayne lapierre, good points. he also pointed out how the nra has led the effort in many ways to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and from people that shouldn't have these weapons. of course, if you are watching the corrupt media in this country, listening to democrats in washington, they will never

tell you that because they are only interested in demonizing, attacking the nra, the second amendment supporters. it is all predictable and it is all pathetic. forpa example, you all you haveo do is look at what happened during fake news cnn's gun-control "town hall" last night. facts, differing opinions, didn't matter. scene and stack the deck against the second amendment supporters. just take a look, dana loesch wilderness in a minute -- at how she was treated last night. >> let me answer the question. you can shut me down when i'm gone. but let me answer the question. they spoke about that before the president made a move and they spoke about that before attorney general jeff sessions made an announcement about that, too. that answers your question. >> i understand you are standing up for the nra and i understand that is what you are supposed to do, but you just told this group of.s people that you are standig up for them. you are not standing up for them until you say -- >> we had three lawmakers on the

stage, and only one of them hinted at reinforcing the background check system. it is only as good as the records submitted to it. only one of them even got anywhere close to mentioning that. we have to have more than 38 states submit records. that is number one. number two, we have to develop better protocol to follow up on red flags. >> sean: dana will be here in a second. also, you've heard people saying "burner" wow. how can anybody have a serious conversation when one side is literally calling the other sida murderers and screaming that they need to be burned? make new cnn is not interested in solutions. this is all about creating political theater. it did nothing to solve the problem. fake new cnn alsoo has another very serious problem on their hands. a stolen stoneman douglas highl student to save lives during the shooting at he's reporting that sienna tried to script his

questions at last night town hall that he didn't end up participating inti because he didn't want to be a part of the forest. here's what he told tucker carlson earlier tonight. >> i just want to make sure you have this straight. you sent them a long essay on what you thought, but they put their own words in the question? they want the same as the words you would say?er you are the producers words? >> absolutely. they had taken what i had wrote and what i had briefed on a talk about and they wrote the question forbo me. >> sean: but not with your words? they put their own words into your question, even after they ask you to send it? that seems dishonest. speak it would definitely dead and that is kind of why i didn't goin last night. originally i thought it was goingue to be more my own question, and it turned out to be more of a script. she said that over the phone, that he needed to stick to the script.

>> sean: the student saying that -- [boos] fake news, scripted his questions -- what did you call them? they are saying they never provide the scripted questions and that his father withdrew his name for participating before the show began. but this is not the first time that the fake news network has been accused off scripted questions. michelle malkin put out a great article back in january of 2016 for "the new york post." here's the headline. "cnn's long history of allowing democratic town hall plants. here's just a couple of the many examples she found. 2007, cnn, youtube debate, an undecided voter, literally including a member of the lgbt americans for hillary clinton steering committee. a john edwards a part of that asked questions about abortion. a log cabin republican that was backing barack obama. a concerned mother that was a

union activist for united steel works that endorsed john edwards and a former intern for a democratic harman and we know that the former dnc chair, former cnn contributor,ke donna brazile, leaked town hall questions to q the clinton campaign. they had an advantage over bernie sanders in that case. ready to debate this? we have two segments. joining us now on stage, nra spokesperson dana loesch, their lastok w night. fox newska contributor katie pavlich. fox news correspondent at large geraldo rivera. and dan bongino. [cheers and applause] [audience chanting "usa"] >> sean: this is great. first i want to say, i obviously didn't watch because they are on at the samee time, but i watched

later. and number one, you did a phenomenal job under the most difficult circumstances. got to give you -- bring us behind the scenes were called a murderer, "burn her," what else? >> let me set the stage for you. first off i want to say, it's hard to be a teenager, it's hard being a grieving teenager, and it's hard being a grievingie teenager who is being exploited by a media and made to grieve or asked to grieve publicly on the national stage. this is an arena full of survivors, victims parents, and other community members. there were over 7,000 people in thisis arena, sean. when we entered, you kind of ventured like you were floyd mayweather going into the ring. literally. you came in from part of the arena and you walked through between these people and you got up on stage, pretty chaotic. it started before i got up on stage to talk. the whole reason i showed up

there is because the nra is made of over 5 million members whoho are also parents. >> sean: i'm one. and you are parent. we didn't do anything wrong. why is it that we are held responsible when you come as you mentioned, we learned that the office, you had a deputy whoen waited 4 minutes. it was reported this morning that the parents had reported this murderer to police before. there's a report out there, the records have been discussed in media, they said, they told police he has threaten people with a gun before. he has held a gun to others heads. i'm not a member of the fbi. i'm not a member of law enforcement -- >> sean: you were not in this because you are being paid -- >> i've been a second amendment supporter for the long time. >> sean: what he did was wrong. >> it was wrong. he had questions to answer.

>> sean: we have you for twore segments. what other names were you called on that stage? >> i was called a "see you next tuesday." they said "burn her," "murderer," and then they tried to -- they chanted "shame" as i walked out, and i looked in every single person -- >> sean: they want to jerrygl springer. honestly -- >> we have geraldo. the original jerry springer. >> sean: no chairs were thrown thrown. that is when cnn should've other cameras go becausee that was the money shot they wanted, i'm sur sure.st people tried to rush the stage, a woman rushed the stage. at one point jake tapper said, do you have an escort? you need to get out of here. you've got to get out of here. if i didn't have a three-person detail with me,e i would not hae gotten out of the arena. that is not an exaggeration.

>> sean: in all fairness, geraldo, he's one of my best friends in life. i love him -- we disagree on some things. you believe in the second amendment. >> i do. >> sean: you agree withh what i've outlined to security measures. >> i agree with that. but dana said it is hard being a teenager. i am the father of five. four of them have passed through the teenage years. it is hard being a teenager. so why in the world does the nra resist raising the age for the purchase of the deadly weapons or 18-21-year-olds? as the president now advocates? this simple change -- i want the nra to embrace it. [boos] i want the nra -- here's the kid who has visited 39 times by the cops. he's a kid they wouldn't let him carry a knapsack into the school, but a good buy and ar-15 legally? please! >> sean: i will say this.

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came to mind 29, but in all seriousness, that kid is troubled. we knew he was troubled. >> sean come we all agree. this could should not have been anywhere near the firearms.nt but it is a disingenuous argument to say that we will send our 18-year-olds overseas with the very same weapons to fight for your freedoms, theirs and everyone else, and then when they come home and say come by the way, you're not emotionally mature enough to use that exact sameor firearm in a lesser form and in many cases when you are on american soil. >> why do we keep these kids from booze? >> they are evolving as people. >> it is not the same thing. >> they are going through angst. they areou mad at their girlfriends. >> you didn't answer my questio question. >> why do we send them overseas with a firearm to defend our freedom and then tell them --

>> it is the same weapon. i know. >> sean: katie pavlich. >> i think we need to stop calling this guy a kid. he was 19 years old. he was not a child. he was 19 years old, he was a grown adults. responsible for his actions, stop giving him a way out. second of all, this is a direct result of the government failing at every single level. the third thing that i need to emphasize is that teachers are willing to step up. not all of them, but some of them. this isun not a new concept. teachers around the country have stepped up to the plate, they are armed, ready to take on a violent -- >> sean: wouldn't be it be better that teachers teach? at madigan's teachers having guns, but what what retired police and military? >> that's fine. this is not coming for me, i talked to teachers, i don't teachers in the classroom, the firearms owners for 30 years, who are trained, they said they

will offer a free training to superintendents and presidents of school boards to make sure they know what they are doing. theyey are begging for it. >> the nra has a school shield programm that has reinforced schools 150 school so far across the country. one of the things that you asked, geraldo, was about eight restrictions. sutherlands brings murderer m ws 27 years old. are you telling everyone that making the skies wait -- making the guy wait? >> he described to me the nature of the wounds of those children at hospital, -- wait a second, he was so deeply moved and troubled that he has now adopted the juvenile assault weapons ban as part of his program. we need to do something. it won't solve the problem. but the nra, if it doesn't want to be on the wrong side of

history, well adopt this modest reform. [boos] >> sean: that spin is one of the reasons why dan and i -- >> do you want to do nothing? do you want to just do nothing? just leave it the way it is? >> geraldo! you want us to listen or do you want to scream? >> sean: was make sure the audience can hear. you agreed we ought to have armed guards, police, so agrees with that. >> i had a vice principal who in the summertime was a new york state trooper, and he was a football coach. he's the perfect guy to have a weapon. he strained to life -- >> sean: dana. >> what about 20-year-old women like me who didn't live at home? i lived out on my o own. >> how can you argue that a pistol is as deadly as an ar-15?

>> so it's okay if somebody has something chambered -- i don't think you understand ballistics or understand firearmsap. >> 30 assignments in iraq and afghanistan's and i don't understand>> ballistics? >> sean: one at a time. katie, go ahead. it is speak of the reason why the age limit for handguns is different than the age limit for semiautomatic rifles is due to the 1968 firearms act. the reason why handguns are 21 is because congress at the time focused on the fact that handguns were used in the majority of crime. well, that is still the case today, which is why the number still stands. >> sean: that was that was virginia tech. >> the majority of crimes that we see that are carried out with handguns -- with firearms, 45-65% are with handguns. 2.2% of them are carried out with rifles. the other thing i want to

address -- >> 5 of 6 massacres. >> just let me finish my point. you just are admitting that what youss are calling a juvenile assault weapons ban won't solve the problem, you are not allowed to infringe on people's constitutional right if it won't solve a problem. >> sean: dan bongino? >> it is a small step but as a positive step. you justt said it won't solve anything. >> this t is based on a faulty premise. t i think geraldo is falling into this trap. criminals don't care about gun laws. they don't care. guys, listen. what is the defining characteristic of aa criminal? they are outlaws, they don't care about laws, burglary laws, gun laws. you are not slowing them down. i was in the streets, this is not stopping them. >> this is the same defeatist attitude that prevents us from doing anything.

it's not going to solve the whole problem, so we want to do it to. >> sean: geraldo, focus for one second. we agree that we need, if we put retired police and military in the schools, we do threat assessments -- >> background checks? >> sean: geraldo, we all agree that we could secure every school with armed retired military and police. you agree. >> sean, if i for the last six massacres were committed with ar-15s, there is a reason for that. all of the booing, all of you are activism it pales that when you see the dead bodies. >> eight of the last mass casualty incidents, these individuals were known to the fbi. the law-abiding -- >> sean: i got to roll. you guys have been amazing. this is a real debate. let's give it up for everybody. thank you all. kellyanne conway as we continue

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♪ >> i want my schools protected just like my banks are protected, just like everything else. i get a kick -- i was watching a politician, weak, and effective politician last night, i would not want to embarrass them by saying their name, he was talking about no guns, and others, and yet he's surrounded by three guys carrying guns. ii said, when are they going to give up their guns? they want to give them up. but he wants everybody else to have noo guns. you have plenty of them. >> sean: that was from today's listening session at the white house. two in a row, following the horrific mass shooting last week. the president has shown to findip, trying solutions, keeping our schools and kids safe. joining us now, a big, warm cpac whelp come to the council of the

president, kellyanne conway. [cheers and applause] wow.an: all right so there have been a lot of school shootings. a lot ofin issues, everybody talked about opening anwr, and no wonder that until president trump did it. is he going to solve the problem school shootings? >> i believe he can and he will. i think we should all be very grateful that donald j. trump is our president at this time. for the president of the united states to hold back hold back-to-backer sessions yesterdy and today, today, public safety, school safety, with elected officials, commissioners of police, sheriff, educators, and of course the mayor of parkland, really been a remarkable woman throughout this, for him to do that yesterday and today and

yesterday, to have the parents and students there, and those who have suffered over the years including in florida, this is a man who is always listening. he has listened to the angel moms and dads, listen to the obamacare, the coal miners, the families in the business owners coming to the white house and say how they would spend the tax savings that they would get from any cut. he listened to big businesses, small businesses, entrepreneurs, young people all across this country whose future is more prosperous, more safe because of him and he has now taken this all the way into i think a scourge in our society, and there are many, but for the president of the united states to welcome these people into his house yesterday, they were in a state dining room, to just listen, m they didn't make it about himself, as politicians often do, he didn't interrupt them, he spoke very little, very sparingly. he and the vice president took

into account all of the emotion and grief but also the resolve and the purposefulness. >> sean: we just played a clip of the president. he spoke yesterday about how the average school shooting is over 3 minutes. even the best first responders, as great as they are, they need to six to getin there. that is why -- and he made another big point. all of these politicians, celebrities, people that would like to disarm americans that aren't willing to put retired armed military, retired armed police and the schools, they are usually pretty well protected with their own security forces of armed people, like at the oscars, et cetera. there's a lot of hypocrisy here, and the lectures that come from people that are themselves have security, and armed guards, it falls flat at least ont, my ears and i think most people. >> this president is pretty adept at pointing out hypocrisy. i think in this case, it's been said by many people over the last week and it's true.

if we really care about her children, and we do in this country, then we have to at least protect them the way we protect many, many places. the stadiums, banks, as we talked about, clearly anywhere where there is a celebrity. i look at our children much that way. i think they are our future heroes and they are celebrities in our own households and they deserve the same protection that many people who can afford it have. >> sean: i have a scenario that i think everyone at home and everyone here, i want you to think about it forr one second. if, god forbid, you find yourself in any administration orlding, i don't know where how this would happen, and there is an active shooter, would you or would you not want retired armed military, retired armed police on-site so you have a fighting chance? i think we owe that to america's

children as a simple, fundamental, basic front line of defense. >> the president made that point today.pr for the second day, he had the cameras rolling on the mics up in the entire time. unscripted, unrehearsed,ri unfiltered, and i would say unexpected. he made that point. we need to harden our targets and our schools need to be places where they would be mass murderer believes that he or she is not going to have their way there. if theyo h know that they can't easily get in and to do their damage, they will think twice about that. he made that very clear. he came in really tough today about that. he wants to make sure that we solve this once and for all. these are necessary conversations, and not easy solutions. we should give the president and the vice president and others great credit for having that conversation. >> sean: what you make of the liberal media? within seconds and hours, they are out there with her

predictable talking points, and attacking the president. >> really missing the essence of what yesterday was about. if you listen very carefully to the people in that room, they came there with ideas. they came there with controversies -- i think that the disagreement in the room yesterday over policy firm this family, reflects the disagreement across the countrye but that is agreement needs to be heard, and the different ideas need to be aired, and what i believe is that there are manp people in the media who are trying to get the story. i think there are still too many who are trying to get the president. it's unfortunate what happenedd after a day like yesterday, or even his fiercest critics say, it was a very positive event, a very good thing for him to host it at the white house. at the same time, anybody who came away yesterday and took one a snippet and to manipulate the

words is being disingenuous as to the tone and the content of the event. being quite disrespectful to the people who were in the room. they were the ones speaking. >> sean: kellyanne conway, let's give her a big warm cpac welcome. always great to have you. we appreciate it. coming up, new developments on the phony anti-trump clicked and bought and paid for dossier. sara carter, gregg jarrett, matt schlapp, all with us. ♪ when things go wrong here, you remember. quilted northern is designed to work so well, you can forget your bathroom trips. but little miss puffytail can never forget. "the only thing worse than having such large ears, is having such large eyes."

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state department official, aide to senator john mccain, has invoked the fifth, and will not testify about the anti-trump dossiers russian sourceshe to te house until committee, and now from the american conservative union,, he puts cpc together every year, the one and only matt schlapp. fox news contributor, investigative reporter sara carter. fox news legal analyst gregg jarrett. this is a big deal, especially in light of devin nunes now saying he wants an answer from obama officials for ten questions specifically related to the phony bought andon paid r russian dossier that hillaryam tried to manipulate the american people with. >> it's very significant, sean. if you look at who they are asking these questions, senior obama administration -- >> sean: clapper, brennan? >> we know clapper, brendan, gregg are all being asked. there are quite a few others, state department officials, i

know for sure. i don't want to go in that direction until we verify yet. there's quite a few people involved here. with david kramer, this is significant and important because he was a state department official but he was the guy that went to get the dossier for mccain and he brought it back. the fbi already had the dossier. we know that. the fbi had obtained the dossier earlier that summer. he goes back, he gets the dossier, and he's pleading the fifth because he doesn't want to answer one question in particular. >> sean: what is that question? >> did he leak it to buzzfeed. >> sean: gregg jarrett, what is fascinating, fusion gps, the fbi, nobody verified the dossie dossier. then they brought it, gregg said in january of 2017 to the president-elect, it was salacious and unverified, but in october, they went before a fisa court and the bulk of that fisa application was that phony hillary clinton bought and paid

forr dossier, and they never tod the fisa judge that it was hillary clinton bought and paid for. they put a footnote in that it may be political. >> is arguably six different felonies for doing that. but the kramer thing is interesting because he appeared before the intelligence committee, december 19th, and he said i know who steele's sources are. and the committee said who are they? and he said, i'm not going to tell you. so they slap him withot a subpoa to make him tell them. and now he invokes the fifth. why would he do that? maybe he doesn't know the sources and didn't tell the truth, which is why he's invoking the fifth. it's hard to know sources, sean, that don't even exist. if you knows the sources, and he's invoking the fifth to protect them, that is an illegal use of the fifth amendment privilege. >> sean: let me ask a different question, offbeat. everyone says, the president is

a nationalist populist. i've been a reagan conservative 30 years in radio, 23rd year on fox. i see him as a reagan conservative, the way he's governing. and i know youu take heat at cpc every year, but you are having the biggest crowd, the president will be here tomorrow, it'll be be a mob scene. and i see him as a conservative. how do you see him? >> i just think these terms, the jargon and lingo, you gotta break it down. i am okay with the president that's awfully patriotic and cares about our country, and will fight for our country. other people say, he's a nationalist. and i think that they don't get the fact that if you believe that the government is too big and does too much, if you believe we should have constitutionalist judges, if you think the tax code should not take all of our money and redistribute it -- >> sean: isn't this all reagan? you haven'tav said one thing tht is not reagan. >> exactly. get rid of all the titles and the jargon and look at the

actions. people who are still in this effort trump mantra, they are intellectually dishonest because they told us he wouldn't govern as a conservative. and that is just not what he did. >> sean: what is going to happen, what is the next phase? we have a short period of time with the dossier. >> we know that the inspector general is looking into this, the doj -- >> sean: wishing on a couple of weeks? speak about us regarding the fbi's handling of the clip clinton email server. we know he's investigating andrew mccabe. we also know that senator grassley had made a criminal referral on christopher steele area that is going to be very important. >> sean: will have a lot more on tomorrow night to "hannity." you guys have done a phenomenal work. great job with cpac. thank you for having us. when we come back, morris b25 and a lot of football throwing straight ahead you won't see these folks at the post office

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