mess. get them off the streets and out of the country. shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" team not dancing it because it's not friday. we've got to have some activity like you have, shannon. you've been dancing on friday. do you know what we do collect and we just go home. >> shannon: you guys live very exciting lives. you can join our dance party open invite. good to see you. here's what we have coming up tonight. broward county mark bogen joins us live for the call to the -- many times as scott israel has claimed. the president leads a capitol hill listening session on guns. reality tv or real collusion equipment we will ask press secretary ari fleisher. one year in his presidency, president trump gets a very early start by announcing he's running for election. 980 days from now. chris stirewalt. plus the mother and daughter

pair who fended off a armed robber joins us live. hello and welcome to "fox news @ night." i am shannon bream in washington. lawmakers from both parties including some of the democrats' strongest gun-control advocates planning to meet with president donald trump tomorrow about the policy response to the florida school massacre. it will be the fourth such meeting on topic from daca to guns or the president gathers opposing sides and essentially moderates the discussion. the president is considering his options. the g.o.p. led senate and house are taking somewhat different tax. mitch mcconnell trying to increase his razor-thin majority by flipping democratic seats in the midterms saying the senate should focus on passing some kind of legislation on guns. but house speaker paul ryan is sounding less sure about the need of number four, focusing on

the steps of missteps on authorities in florida. with new evidence of missed chances to stop the killer before it was too late. matt finn joins us now from parkland. good evening, matt. >> shannon, fox news is telling that over the course of a decade, authorities response to the home were nicholas cruise lived with his mother at least 45 times, the calls range from disturbances to a child and elder abuse and missing persons. however, the broward county sheriff's office they only 18 of those calls related particularly to nicholas cruz their shooter. 16 16 of 18 of those calls were handled correctly. they admit 2 of 18 of the calls could've been handled improperly and are under investigation. new tonight, we just spoke with the president of the broward county deputies association who sees deputies might have been able to help nikolas cruz or prevent this

massacre if they were allowed to make some of the minor offenses he was doing. authorities say they could've given nikolas court ordered mental health. >> if a deputy was allowed to take him in for a minor misdemeanor offense, we would've had him enrolled in the criminal justice system or he would've seen court ordered mental health services into the house. >> tonight, the florida department of law enforcement is investigating all of the decisions made by broward county sheriff's office, including deputies that might have not jumped into action during any of those 911 calls or during the day of the shooting. the broward county sheriff has been heavily skewered with 73 state republican lawmakers here in florida calling for him to be suspended or to resign. however, democrats in his state are backing the embattled's sheriff. from a joint statement that was released, it reads in part with recent calls for removals or

some sessions from office, broward county lawmakers ask for patience and a thorough examination of the facts and circumstances before anyone at any level of government is publicly scorned or accused of dereliction of duty. also new today, florida governor rick scott is urging state legislators to vote yes on his massive $500 million action plan to make the state safer by increasing the age to possess or buy a gun to 21 years old and to require a law enforcement officer at every public school. he was flanked by two fathers today whose daughters were murdered at stoneman douglas high school. >> i want to be the last father of inverted kid ever in this country. i'm going to make sure every school is safe for our kids. it's all about our kids. that's our most precious commodity. our children. >> shannon, tonight they're

continued to be swirling allegations and rumors about how law enforcement responded to the shooting at stoneman douglas high school. we are thoroughly and honestly investigating them and we will keep you up to speed as we learn new information. shannon? >> shannon: much appreciated, matt finn. thank you very much. president trump set to meet with congressional leaders tomorrow to discuss gun-control measures, including raising the age limit to buy make that type of high-powered rifle used in the tragic florida shooting. republicans, including florida governor rick scott breaking with the president on some kind of federal mandate to arm schoolteachers. here's what press secretary sarah sanders had to say about that. >> this is part of an ongoing conversation, something that the president still supports. something he knows that there is a lot of differing views on. >> shannon: warren davidson is a republican congressman from ohio and a former army ranger. welcome. great to have you with us live tonight. >> great to be here. >> shannon: what do we do on

the hill. i want to read you something axial -- mirrors the white house. president trump had been all over the place since the parkland shooting. congressional republicans are not taking him seriously or unwilling to embrace many of the gun-control policies. it seems like the senate and house too have many different ways going at it. >> the bills with the senator is taking apart a little bit different from the house. that is not abnormal. that's common. the president has floated a number of ideas. but he's not said that every single idea that he's talked about is something that should become federal law. for example, arming teachers. should there be one federal approach to how teachers are armed or whether they are not? you know, in the state of ohio, school districts are allowed to do that for the county i grew up in has weapons in schools. teachers don't carry them. they are in biometric vaults. they have body armor. they train regularly, hopefully,

to be the good guy with the gun that responds correctly. but in not every district response. >> shannon: secretary ryan says that's one local decision that states need to make, what they want in their schools. he seemed to talk about there's a lot of issues that have to be discussed just besides going after guns. saying today that you shouldn't go after people who are law-abiding citizens. he wants to make sure that people who never should get guns, there are tougher strongholds to make sure they don't. what measures do you see that can pass the house, pass the senate, and get to the president for a signature? what, if anything, should be done? >> we watch the clip earlier talking about the father who lost his daughter. really, when you think about the tragedy that's here, you really want to look at what's going to make our school safe route what's going to make our students safe. some of the ideas that have been floated or reactionary and they are focused on rifles, a particular type of rifle, for example. if you think about rifles, you are more likely, actually, 20

times more likely to be killed by a handgun then a rifle. six times more likely to be killed in hand-to-hand combat. this is all rifles. if you look at ars, a subset of rifles. look at the debate on age. handguns, required for federal arms licensees to sell a handgun, you have to be 21. well, you are 20 times more likely to be killed by a handgun, making 21 the age limit hasn't this decrease fatalities by handguns. you want to make sure you take the time to solve the problem the right way. and what has already passed the house where some fixes to reciprocity, which some of the most law-abiding gun owners in america are considered permit holders. they comply with laws. that's a different fix. that's not necessarily going to make schools safer. but it passed as part of the house bill for the house that we will take up the cornet bill without doing that fix. but just recently in the senate, there is a bill that we are

looking over tonight in our office that is a fixed next that deals with due process. it doesn't leave federal agencies with no way to discuss it. if a state court or military court has provided due process, there is a remedy. at the local level, you have things like in florida where this parkland shooting, i think everyone is wondering how in the world couldn't we have stopped this one? this seems to me one of the most preventable crimes that we've seen as far as shooters go. surely, these red flags could've tripped something that would've stopped him from legally purchasing a firearm. >> shannon: it sound like the governor rolling out his plan which will talk more about, but he's looking at all these other prongs and safety nets that didn't work. congressman, thank you for coming in tonight. we will watch this on the hill. a lot of folks doubting anything will get done, but there's a lot of people working on both sides. we'll see. florida governor rick scott rolling out his half billion

dollar school safety plan today including beefing up lawn from his presence and many other practical precautions at school. >> we got to invest in metal detectors. we got to invest in bullet proof glass. we've got to invest in steel doors. we've got to invest in upgraded locks. >> shannon: joining me now, broward county vice mayor mark bogen, a democrat. great to have you with us here today. >> thank you. >> shannon: what did you think about what the governor proposed today quite like it was all about putting officers in the school. more of them, more mental health checks. really making sure there's better to medication across law enforcement. he also said he wants the sheriff's office they are to be transparent and he wants whoever was responsible for this to be accountable. what do you think? >> well, first of all, any actions that will make schools better, everybody should be for. if the state is going to provide the funding and help the county, the schools, take the necessary

action to make schools safer, it's great. as for accountability, you know, i think everybody wants accountability. but i think it's a little premature right now. the governor, as well as our broward county commissions, called for an investigation. i think we got to wait for the facts to come out. i think everybody is jumping the gun too quickly. i think you have to wait for the facts to come out. >> shannon: we got something to that effect from this letter coming out from the democrats out of broward county, several lawyers there saying that you shouldn't be going after the fbi, sheriff, anybody else until they know more. they said this. given the understand we heighten emotion surrounding this tragedy, we understand many in the political process are looking for solutions or for someone to blame. but it is important to recognize that all of us, regardless of little political party, have an obligation to learn this right so we can take whatever steps necessary to ensure something like this never happens again. you talk about the fact that the

broward county commission down there has now contracted contad party to do a investigation. what kind of an elm the consequences whether be if it turns out there are serious lapses and things missed that could've potentially save lives? >> look. what the broward county commission did today, we agreed to hire a independent party to have an unbiased investigation. that's what we are looking for. we think that we can get an unbiased investigation. from that, you know, we will react. i really think if you look at what your previous guest talked about, there was a perfect storm. i mean, you've got people claiming the fbi did wrong. you've got people claiming the school. system, for all of the years he was in school, did not hold up. you've got people claiming the broward sheriff's office is the problem. the palm beach sheriff office got complaints against the shooters as well. you've against the shooter as well.

i think you need to wait, as the governor of the state said, we need to wait until the facts come out. calling for his resignation, calling for him to resign is really premature. it's become very political down here. let's first wait for the facts. that's what the governor said there that's what our commission said. that's the fair thing to do. let's wait for the facts. >> shannon: i want to ask you too about a report of that there was an agreement between the broward sheriff's office and broward school system. i cannot verify them independently, but they talk about the fact that they would stop prosecuting or arresting kids for all kinds of different misdemeanors, things happening in school. get the reporting down. it was helpful for the school system. it makes them look better. some say that people like this young man fell through the cracks because they took their foot off the gas pedal when it came to cracking down on crimes and schools. can you tell us anything about that agreement? >> i think there's a misconception about that agreement. basically, a lot of youth are

prosecuted for misdemeanors. and they do things, foolish things, -- we aren't talking about felonies. we are talking about misdemeanors. it goes on the record, prohibits them from getting a job, going through the college. the thought behind that was if some youth was caught with a small amount of marijuana or some minor misdemeanor, it wouldn't be prosecuted. it would be handled through the school and through the school's officers. it was really to give the youth another chance. but that had nothing to do with this type of situation. when there is a gun or a weapon being used, that agreement and the -- that agreement would never apply to something like that. >> shannon: okay. i want to ask you, because there might be something bipartisan coming down the pipe that might be helpful. is it state-level? can you tell us anything? >> there is going to be an

announcement next week about a bipartisan initiative which will address a lot of the things that are going on right now. it really focused on keeping momentum of what's going on here in parkland florida and in south florida. so it's something that i've been working on and something i've been working on with a lot of different officials. i hope to come back here within the week and announce it and let you know and let the world know what we are going to be doing for its being when we would love to hear from you when that happens and when you can tell us more about the commissions' independent investigation as well. vice mayor out there and broward, thank you very much. >> thank you, shannon. >> shannon: it is official. president trump is going to seek a second term in the 2020 election. columnist joseph epstein opines that the only thing good about donald trump is all his policies. says the president who is a bore present a problem for the presidency after all has a symbolic effect. chris stirewalt is in here to wait. how are you quite make that

whenever boorish, i hope. >> shannon: he said he really likes president obama, that he seemed to be a great father. very eloquent, controlled, classy. >> role model, yes. >> shannon: but he said he hated all of his policies. he would rather have this guy who seems like a jerk sometimes. look at all the stuff he's getting done. conservatives should embrace him. >> that's how republicans got to be unified after a long time, they came to turn the volume down on the trump. look, there are people who have from the beginning adored trump. the redder that had come of the louder the holler, the meaner the cut, put down, tweak, they love it. those are his people. they made him president. but to become president to win the general, now to win a second term, it needs a coalition of republicans. what people like epstein are talking about is, look, i don't listen to him anymore. i don't listen to the tweets, i

don't listen to him talk. i don't pay attention to weather the weather was stormy or not stormy. >> shannon: i see what you did there. >> or any of that stuff. they just focus on the policy. that's how the republicans have become more unified. >> shannon: the heritage foundation said this. the agenda that they were hoping for him to get done, the heritage foundation, 60% of the trumpet trump agenda, we are blown away. very effective. fans elites of the policy >> i should hope so. they wrote them. one would tend to think that the people who despite his policy platform with like it. there are complaints on the right about his trade policies. we are just getting ready to find out whether we really are going to have a trade war. the president, they are getting ready to slap big tariffs on steel which could change a lot of things and cause a lot of effects. but right now, conservatives say we got the tax cut, we got the courts, we got the things that

we wanted, rollback and regulations. let's give the guy the benefit of his twitter feed. >> shannon: in the meantime, looking at 2020. list of democrats that may challenge him print many of them republicans. john k schurz one of them >> i'm starting to really wonder if we are going to see a multiparty system at some point in the future of this country. because i don't think either party is answering people's deepest concerns and needs. >> shannon: might he be part of that process? he is going to new hampshire, which everyone around the country is free to visit. >> that is true. but he ran for president of new hampshire's once before as you recall. and it was not super awesome. look, i don't know whether -- it will depend on how the economy is. it will depend on so many things. it's way too early to talk about it. let's say if things were like they are now, it's going to be hard to pry conservatives or

even moderate republicans away from the trump because they say, well, if we are getting the results that we want, even if he is a bore, even if he is unpleasant, what do we care? in the case of things that he's going to run on being outraged at the indignity of donald trump, i think the republicans have gotten over that. >> shannon: never a bore, b-o-r-e, or boor. in republicans or say hicks answered question about the campaign, but not her time in the white house our transition. meanwhile, "the new york times" claiming that hicks told the committee she does occasionally tell white lies as part of her job, though not in connection with the russian investigation. jared kushner's security clearance has been downgraded, meaning the president's son-in-law will no longer have access to president trump's daily briefing that contains top-secret information. he is expected to continue in

that role, despite the lengthy delay of his background investigation and the interim clearance that he has been relying on. how about this for a turn of events? a judge who was an obama appointees and president trump once called a hater delivers a court win for the white house. trace explains the shop ruling. 100,000 noncitizen are registered to vote in pennsylvania. and illinois has a lot of expanding to do too. we will break that down. remember that supersecret talk obama gave in mit? it's no longer a secret because

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-- they also claim the 1996 signed by president clinton was unconstitutional. in his review, the judge noticed that this issue was highly political and contentious, but said that did not factor into his ruling, adding "they both share their spots ability protecting the country from terrorist and contraband illegally entering into the borders. they help provide a measure of deterrence against illegal entry." it was back in 2016 that the judge presided over a million dollars settlement for thousands of students who sued then candidate donald trump and trump university, saying the school made false claims. at the time, trump said this. watch. >> i have a judge who is a hater of donald trump. a hater. he's a hater. his name is gonzalo curiel.

and he is not doing the right thing. >> the president went on the claim that curiel's mexican heritage, even though he was born in indiana, would prevent a fair outcome. trump also mistakingly connected curiel to the national council of la raza, which advocates for illegal immigrants, but the judge is a member of the r's of legal organization some environmental groups are a already vowing to appeal. javier becerra he says he claims to view his options. every time this waiver challenge has been challenged, it's been upheld by the courts. >> shannon: trace gallagher from l.a., thank you very much. more than 100,000 noncitizen's are allegedly registered to vote in pennsylvania. according to a new lawsuit filed by the public interest legal foundation, talk about it now

with radio talk show host and fox news can jupiter richard fowler. and political editor for townhall.com, fox news contributor guy benson. i will read from this lawsuit for the complaint. they are referring to a state official and saying in his oral testimony, senator schmidt set analysis revealed over 100,000 matches, meaning the analysis showed over 100,000 noncitizens who were presently registered to vote in pennsylvania. guy, how did that happen? >> i don't know and that shouldn't happen. there's a difference between being registered to vote and actually voting, we should say that. but it is not okay that 100,000 people in pennsylvania who are noncitizens of this country are registered to vote. i would point out that the most recent election, donald trump won that state there will never leave. 44,000 people were roughly give or take gave him that margin. and clearly, 100,000 is a bigger number than that. so this is something that i think is a problem. i think the state of

pennsylvania should stop stonewalling as they have been. and we should get answers. because this is just not acceptable. >> shannon: part of this lawsuit said, as you mention, federal law says people have a right, the public duty, to inspect these records and make sure there's nothing funny going on. they are saying the commonwealth of pennsylvania is not allowing them to do that. they also cite several examples, including a geico self reported, he turned in a handwritten note saying he wasn't a citizen, but he had returned to vote in three separate elections, including most recently in 2016. another woman who had registration canceled in 2006, noncitizen, registered to vote twice. still active in the system now. another woman voted in 2008, 2012, had her restriction canceled in 2014. then she registered in 2016 and voted again! >> that's outrageous. >> shannon: richard! >> there is a problem. illegal aliens should not vote in this country. we have a larger problem here for the glitch in the system seems to be, from what i read, is the motor voter law. when you go to renew your

driver's license, you can also register to vote. i'm assuming what's happening here, mind you, i don't know, i'm not from the state of pennsylvania. don't crucify me for that. what seems to be happening here is people are going to get their driver's license and they are saying, yeah, i guess, i registered to vote. they are not sure what they are registering to vote for. they shouldn't be voting. but i think we have to let the litigation to play all the way out to what we can figure out the facts here. but 100,000 is a very alarming number. i think it has every thing to do with the fact that there is a glitch in the present venue system. hopefully, the folks there are doing everything in the power to fix that. >> fixing that glitch, richard, would be -- >> no. let's make this clear. fixing the glitch that you are in noncitizen and going to make a driver's license, you are eligible for motor voter law per that's not suppression. >> shannon: i want to quickly ask you both about this report from nbc tonight at seven different states have their voter registration systems, not

votes, but registration systems penetrated in some way by russian backed actors. guy, you first. then mr. richard, final word. >> votes were not changed. i'm glad you pointed it out. it's important. but here's what i think it's important for americans across a click of divide to care about the russia issue rate is falling, hostile government attempted and succeeded on some level to penetrate our voting system, or at least registration systems, for seven states for that includes states like texas, alaska, which are red states, it included california and illinois, which are blue states. include wisconsin, where i am tonight, and florida which are swing states. this is not a partisan issue. this is a very serious issue. we should treat it as such. >> i agree. >> shannon: wow! two votes of agreement. >> i think we can all agree that president obama -- i understand he had a hard decision to make in not informing the american people how much the russians were engaging in our elections.

he did not. now it's important for us to take this russia threat very seriously because they are going to do it again in 2018. you don't have to ask. you know what's going to happen. you have to do everything in our power to modernize our voting system and, two, to protect our voting system. >> it shouldn't be about let's get trump, it should be about let's fix the problem. >> shannon: that should be a bipartisan issue that folks can agree on if you care about american democracy and you care about the value of your vote, you should set care about this. >> absolutely. >> shannon: guys, so much agreement tonight. love to see you both. >> thanks, shannon. >> shannon: despite all the rhetoric, a new study that says that schools are one of the safest places of the domain for your children. in fact, they say they are safer now than in the '90s. we ride with i.c.e. agents as they look for illegals after the mayor of oakland tipped off the immigrant community. that report

>> shannon: tonight, a fox news exclusive. we go along with a ride with federal immigration agents trying to enforce the law when one top official in her community said it's her duty to protect illegal immigrants. correspondent claudia kaufman has tonight's report from oakland, california, . >> even as the mayor of oakland was tipping off illegal immigrants that federal enforcement raids were him and then to come, fox news rode along as i.c.e. officers moved out through northern california. targeting homes that sanctuary homes prevent them from making a arrest at local jails and detaining multiple people like this. >> i don't know what benefit there is to allow individuals that are here illegally committing crimes against innocent victims. and often times against the same individuals in this communities that these politicians are

purporting to support. >> speaking exclusively to fox news, the head of ice's enforcement lasted mayor libby schaff libby schaaf putting lives at risk. >> we have federal law enforcement officers upholding the constitution. we have a politician going to score cheap political points on the backs -- that's unconscionable. >> schaaf said she had a duty to warn families that i.c.e. was coming. >> many decisions i make to have risk and rewards. i do not regret sharing this information. i felt it was my duty to share the information i had. >> but i.c.e. officials are asking the justice department to see if she went against any laws and hold her accountable for helping people breaking the law by being in the country illegally. i.c.e. officials argue if politicians are truly concerned about the impact of raids in

their community, they should return to a policy that had been in place for decades and allow them to detain criminal, illegal immigrants at the jail once they are released from local custody. shannon? back to you. >> shannon: thank you very much. the tragic florida shooting has reignited a national debate ongoing reform. especially when it comes to safety in schools. many are claiming the mass casualties are the new normal. but a new report citing statistics says that mass school shootings are actually extremely rare. ellison barber here to break down the sightings of this this new report. >> researchers at northeastern university look at data from all over the data collected the nypd, the fbi can buy the research service for they say it overwhelmingly shows that school shootings are not an epidemic. according to this research, school shootings involving students have actually dropped since the 1990s. since 1996, there have been 16 school shootings where there were four or more victims and at least two firearm related deaths

not involving the perpetrator. eight of the 16 or mass shootings involving four or more deaths. again, not involving the perpetrator. what does that show us? the data was compiled by one of the top criminologist in the country. in an article by news at northeastern, portions of the research are laid out. fox is quoted as saying that his research shows that school shootings are extremely rare events in the matter what you can come up with to prevent it, the shooter will have a workaround. doesn't necessarily mean there's nothing for lawmakers to do to try and prevent school shootings, but research like this often guides them. fox says, some policy changes are worthwhile and could lead to an overall drop in gun violence like the ones being considered right now banding from stocks, raising the minimum age to buy assault rifles. but in an op-ed for usa today, he also writes, compare the school fatality rate with the more than 100 school-age children accidentally killed each year riding their bikes or walking to school.

congress might be too timid to passage on legislation, but what about a .. minors? have the states that require them. the research of that northeastern says that history can serve as a guide when it comes to the idea that increasing security at schools. they say it's been ineffective. two examples they gave were four or more died at a school shooting are in 1989 at a california elementary school were five were shot and killed on the playground or 32 injured. in '98, shooter pulled a fire alarm in a school in arco , arkansas. in those cases, the shooter and students were away from any tsa like checkpoint. the researchers say that heavy security can actually do more harm than good and times and make students feel even more afraid. shannon? >> shannon: thank you very much. a smart p.r. move. the president's schedule is a listening session on guns. a format he's come to embrace and one even critics admit is working for him. is there in your discipline

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>> shannon: president trump meeting tomorrow with some of his toughest democratic critics when it comes to guns. that includes california senator dianne feinstein, minnesota senator amy klobuchar, and connecticut senator chris murphy. the listening sessions a

listening comic winning strategy for the -- let's talk with ari fleisher. great to see you, ari. this seems to be a format he seems to be really countable with and he's using it a lot. >> it's wise for the president and it's wise for a couple of reasons. number one, the president has become such a character caricature for many people. just being told terrible things about him. his tweets often present a picture of him that doesn't show a lot of depth, and a lot of. that's what twitter, to briefly format. then he left the cameras on. he's got some depth, substance, he can talk policy. it puts him in a good light. at some of the reasons why i think he's doing it. >> shannon: it does give them control of the narrative, control of the situation. these cameras are lie for these conversations back and forth, get a chance to show leadership and he's listening and talking with democrats as well. i've got to review this little bit from minnesotapost.com.

black, he says this. in an article titled "nonautomotive -- based on any improvement of his personal contact or on his success at making america great again. he says, still, my effort at intellectual honesty precludes me averting my eyes from the numbers, pretending they are not a significant improvement compared to his ratings for most of the past year. even critics now saying he's getting better at this. >> tying that back to your first question, one of the things donald trump has going for him is people don't understand there is a good government going on. there are laws being passed. there are improvements to society. improvements to the economy. if all you expect when you hear or talk about donald trump is acrimony and vitriol, you turn on television and see an actual working government meeting placement it makes you think twice and they are more open-minded about donald trump or the other thing that's driving the poll numbers, of course, is the tax reform.

the blunders the democrats made when they shut down the government for they have proven moving since -- it's been a marked improvement for the president. he still is underwater. i have to point that out. average drop removal is 42%. his disapproval is 54%. it's up. it's up to markedly. but it's not where it needs to get. >> shannon: what do you make of where he is right now on this issue of gun control! we had lunch with nra and other guns right leaders. he's breaking with them on some things and really pushing back. he's splitting some of the republicans who aren't on board with everything he's suggesting. he seems to be having an independent streak on this, knowing the fallout from this tragedy is very emotional. people want action. what do you make of him showing that independent streak there? >> i think he's been doing a very good job with this. the first remarks he gave were the right tone, the right things for the present essay for the listening sessions have been strong. the thing i would encourage the president to do next is actually put together the package to send to congress and demand that

congress passed make it. he needs to be seen as a man of action. people think washington is broken and come up fed all the politicians that elected donald trump, breaking through the clutter and get things done. this issue especially, it's an issue the american people want to see something done. if donald trump can be the impetus that forces congress to act, even if it's not a package that everything people want in it, it will be a big improvement over the in action that's taken place over the last 10-15 years. he has a real chance here to follow up the listening by leading and pushing congress. >> shannon: ari fleischer, always great to have you with us. thank you. >> thank you so much. >> shannon: be aware, bad guys. we are going to introduce you to two women who fought off an armed robber and took him down. they beat the bad guy at his own game by exercising their second limit rights. the video unbelievable. you will hear the first-hand account, their story (phone ping) gentlemen, i have just received word! the louisiana purchase,

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>> shannon: hard stomach moments in the liquor store in tulsa, oklahoma. go online and watch the whole thing. the owner of the store fending off a armed robber with her own handgun. they join us now live and, ladies, i have to say. my heart was racing watching this thing. i cannot imagine living through it. what was going through your

mind? as this was all playing out? >> just, i wanted him to stop. i just wanted him to leave. i didn't want him to shoot my daughter. didn't want him to hurt her. i didn't understand. like, please. >> shannon: you all had befriended him and been nice to him before. he had been in and talk to him. ashley, were you surprised when he showed up like this? >> i... i can't recall seeing him. i mean, i only work a few days a week there, so i didn't recognize him. >> shannon: so your mother had dealt with them before. >> yes. >> right. >> i had... when he was actually robbing us, i... i looked at him and i said, which... i know you.

like, really? >> shannon: tina, i know your big concern is you are worried about ashley. there was a point, ashley, what you see your mom struggling to a you are trying to intervene. actually, was like that for you? i cannot imagine watching my mother or my daughter in the situation. >> well, i mean, i was on the phone with the dispatch pretty much the entire time. as soon as i got my to my phone. i was watching the struggle between them two and on the phone with the dispatch. and then i didn't know -- i couldn't tell you how i was feeling or what i was feeling. i was trying to remain calm. i knew when he hit her over the head with her own pistol, i knew i had to do something. i had to be careful. i shot the man. i mean, i had to. otherwise he was not going to stop beating on her. he was going to do anything and

everything he could to take her out. then i was next. i knew i was next. seeing her face after she got hit in the head, that was hard. that was really hard. she didn't take her eyes off of me. i knew i had to do something. >> shannon: to hear both of you telling the story, having talked with you. i know your number one fear in this whole thing was watching each other. you both wrist a lot and stepped up when you had to be to protect each other in a situation that none of us ever, ever wants to face. we think you are heroes and you are very brave. thank you for sharing your story with us. we wish to safety and success. >> thank you. >> shannon: ashley and tina, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> shannon: very emotional tonight, starting tonight, as we look back. if you haven't seen that video yet, watch these two women bravely doing what they had to do to protect each other in one of the worst moments of their

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