greece, and tanzania, a diamond necklace, 24 karat gold facial, a dental procedure, and pepper spray. you can interpret that as you want. most-watched, most trusted, most grateful you spent the evening with us. good night from washington. i'm shannon bream. ♪ >> tucker: could evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." the president announced plans today for tough steel tariffs, also tariffs on imported aluminum. the markets tumbled in response more than 400 points. does that mean that all trade deals are fair? the status quo should never change? in a minute, we'll talk to the right has top treated trade advisor about what their plan i. first, the president's core supporters have put up a lot. we don't need to be specific. we won't go on. the shortcomings of this administration's are clear. they are worth it. for two reasons. first, the 80's the president ran on are basically right.

america first ought to be the operating principal of every american administration by definition. it's an american administration. america should be first. that is not the motto of most administrations, not even hardl hardly. second, the alternatives to what we have are scary, and getting scarier. the democratic party is completely irresponsible and anti-american. they prefer illegal aliens to the middle class. someone needs to defend the country from these people, trumped mostly does that pray for this reasons, most of the president supporters have stuck by him no matter what has happened and a lot has happened. they will not tolerate and they should not have to tolerate betrayal on the court premises of his campaign. that seems to be happening on guns. a few days ago, the president called for raising the minimum age to 21, four years after we let people join the military. they can turn at 17. he saying you can't buy a gun until you are 21.

no one is arguing this will save lives. there is no research that it will. as propaganda and its sneaky propaganda. an incremental step toward mark on restriction. then yesterday, the president went further. he want to talk to gun control. he went after republicans, suggesting they are puppets of the nra. at one point, he said the government should "take the guns first, go through due process second." how honest do you want to be? imagine if barack obama had said that. just ignore due process and confiscate guns. obama would have been denounced as a dictator. we would have denounced him first, trust me. congress will be talking impeachment, some will be muttering about secession. the media agreed with the president said to so they have underplayed it or presented it as a battle between the president and the nra. it's not about the nra come it's not even about the president. it's about the constitution and the constitution remains the same no matter who's in power. that's the point of the

constitution. the second amendment supports your rights to bear arms. it is as if that obliquely or metaphorically. it says it explicitly. the supreme court several times has interpreted it that way. explicitly. protecting your rights to bear arms. you can't lose that right or any other right, the right to worship freely coming to see what you want without due process, period. those rights are what make us citizens and not mere subjects of the powerful. the president needs to be reminded of that. maybe we all do once in a while. the voters wanted that kind of government, they could have voted democrat, and they still have a chance to vote democrat in the midterms, which he should keep in mind. congressman john duffy is a republican who represents wisconsin. congressman jodey arrington is a republican representing texas. congressman arrington, to you first. if we are honest for a second, how would you have responded if president obama said we will take the guns and deal with the due process question? >> i think more than disconcerting would be an

understatement. we are talking about our god given fundamental right to protect ourselves, not just against bad people, but against bad governments. that is the context. look, you might send a lot of things this president has done right. america first. he is strong on border security, strong on defense. he's put a constitutionalist in the supreme court and he sent a great job in that regard. but this one, he is going down the slippery slope, the knee-jerk reaction that we are accustomed to when you have these mass shootings. i would oppose president obama and i would oppose president trump and any president that negotiates away what is a fundamental right and quite frankly, it's a right that if it were not exercised by our founding patriots, we wouldn't have the rest of our rights and we wouldn't have our independence. it's a serious issue. >> tucker: congressman duffy, news coverage is 24 hours of

attacking trump. we pull back from that because we want to offer an alternative, we agree with trump lot, we tried to cover other things. i think it's important to remember that nobody should be tied to a person but instead, to principles. with that in mind, do you think it's worth reminding the president, as we all need to be reminded, that there are deeper principles here then winning the new cycle? >> there is deeper principles like the constitution. i have a plot of the president for doing these open riffs, the victims of the shooting or with politicians, on daca or guns. i think he gets high marks on that. also, he can say some things that he might regret upon reflection. these are one of those things that he actually does regret. the fact that the left wants to put new gun restrictions and new gun laws in place because they want to argue to the american people that that will keep us safer, i think you and i and -- those laws don't keep us safer. i was a prosecutor for ten years

in ashland wisconsin -- my cope seen the threat that had come in, the tips that had come in, the fact they had been called to his house. they would have arrested him, throwing him in jail, come to me and said we will have a bond hearing and as a condition of bond, the fact that he can't possess a firearm, then we want you to prosecute them, whether for battery, with an enhancer that is a domestic enhancer. in 1997, bill clinton signed a law that if you are convicted of a crime as a domestic crime, you can't possess a firearm. we would have gone through that procedure and nikolas cruz would not have possessed a firearm because we have good law enforcement and prosecutors. i don't know what happened in florida. to add new laws on top of laws that aren't enforced is idiotic. >> tucker: especially because it doesn't address the actual failures that led to this tragedy. why are we not having a national conversation about why the sheriff's department, the fbi,

the school, the deputies on the scene, all failed to protect those kids? >> i think that's right. it was a failure to identify, register, and engage or respond, and there was failure at every level of government, and clearly, there were some training issues at the local level with respect to active shooting. we need to bone up on that. we also have to secure our schools and get serious about that. except the reality that this is a fallen world and accept the reality that no matter how many laws we have in place, if somebody is hell bent on murder and destruction, they will stop at nothing, certainly not respect for a gun free zone, to carry out their dark desire. the last line of defense, tucker, is to make sure that our people in our communities can defend themselves, their families, and yes, the students, that means that we need to do more of what texas is doing, in my opinion, and make sure that

last line of defense is that teachers and coaches and administrators are appropriately trained, licensed, and a part of that security apparatus. >> tucker: congressman, we could talk for hours about this. we don't have much time. what is your best guess for why this is happening in the first place? what would drive a 19-year-old to murder strangers? >> there's a whole bunch of issues. i think our kids in america are angry, being raised in single family homes without fathers, as a congressman, being away, i know that our boys need fathers in the home. they are being overmedicated, we say they have attention deficit disorder, so we medicate them and start a parent them. there is violence that comes from hollywood. we dehumanize life and most video games and movies and with abortion, there's a whole slew of issues that we have in america that we didn't have 40 years ago. we have to address the root cause of what is bringing kids to be so angry and attached. cell phones, tucker, these kids, they don't talk to each other anymore. they don't know how to interact with people. because they are detached

because of their phones and parents aren't engaging them to draw them away from the phone and into conversation, they are isolated. that is a hard conversation to have, that is where the left goes at cnn instead of going, let's talk about the root cause, which is how we are parenting and raising our kids. we've driven our faith and morality out of culture, that is part of the problem. >> tucker: of course it is. you'll be mocked for saying that. even the people mocking you know that you are right. they know you are right because you are. thank you, both, gentlemen. our next guest says all this talk about going to draw from cnn's totally orwellian town hall to the president's remarks pushed him to purchase his first gun. robert gorman as a writer and a host of a podcast and he joined us tonight. mr. norman, thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me, tucker. >> tucker: i wanted to have you on you because i suspect is not unique. i think there are a lot of people who are the same reaction that you did. explain your impulse.

why did you do this? >> you're right. there aren't a lot of people -- there is a lot of people who reacted the same way, but my impulse when i wrote the piece was that i was seeing this argument go on and the town hall, seeing everything go -- happening on cnn, and the reactions, both during it and after, no one was really talking about the issue from really a complex point of view. no one was admitting on either side that this is not a simple issue. this isn't a simple problem. so when i hear people scream -- not even scream, but even talking about things for my safety is what is most important and the other side saying liberty is what is most important but neither one admitting that there are drawbacks, trade-offs that come with giving up liberty for security, and giving up security for liberty. you were always going to have a

trade-off. and so when i wrote the piece, i was writing it from that mind-set of, what would i rather have? what what i prefer? what is most important? >> tucker: that is a most thoughtful gun purchase of the year. [laughs] i agree with everything you just said. i think more people -- you explained what undergirds that instinct. do you think you should be trusted with a gun? >> i think so. it's interesting because i think that when it comes to the gun purchase, i didn't come from a point of view that i was actually excited to purchase a gun. i'm actually -- as i write in my piece, i plan on training -- i plan on getting training, i plan on making sure that i take it as a responsibility because i view it as a duty. that is something we don't really talk about, especially as civilians living in a country that's founded upon liberty. but it's a duty to carry it. i definitely know that i don't plan on carrying it until i know

i can actually protect myself and protect others and not be a greater danger to others. >> tucker: i think you speak for a lot of gun owners. there are people who have guns who shouldn't, probably a lot of fun. all of the gun ours i know are very, very focused on safety and responsibility. what do you plan to do with it? >> i thought about getting a concealed carry license. i thought about potentially doing open carry. really, the key thing for me is just knowing that, at the very least, i should know how a gun functions, how to act around a gun, how to handle myself. i've actually gone through safety drills, when there is an open shooter drill, i've done those drills, i've been told, i've learned, i understand that you run, you hide, and if all else fails, then you fight. i think the same thing goes with guns. i don't view it as a necessaril necessarily -- a light gift.

>> tucker: no, no, no. guns are heavy. there is a heavy burden. i wish we had a gun control advocate on right now with you to explain why after everything you have said, you still shouldn't be allowed to have a gun. it would be interesting to hear their perspective. robert, thank you for coming on. a new letter to the attorney general jeff sessions from congressman devin nunes, the chairman of the house intelligence committee, says that the fda might have violated criminal statutes in its efforts to spy on the trump campaign. the letter says that by using unverified evidence from the trump dossier to justify surveillance of carter page, an american citizen, who graduated from the naval academy, the fbi could have broken the law by doing that. in the letter, nunes says "in this instance, it is clear that basing operating guidance was violated. all information used for a fisa application be "thoroughly vetted and confirmed," which looks like the information from the famous dossier was not, to put it mildly.

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judicial philosophy, he could oppose every nominee that trump makesmi to . he didid not choose any of those reasons. instead, he said he's opposing the nomination because he is the wrong color. watch. >> the nomination speaks to the overall lack of diversity in president trump selections for the federal judiciary. mr. quattlebaum replaces not one, but two scuttled obama nominations who were african-american. the trump administration, like in so many other areas, is taking a giant step backwards. this time, when it comes to diversity of their nominations. i'll be voting no on the quattlebaum nomination. >> tucker: so he shouldn't have a job because he is the wrong color? you thought this was settled 50 years ago but on the left, it isn't, and it never has been pretreating people differentlyin because of their skin color is wrong and reducing people to members of a race is wrong. it's a cul-de-sac, by the way,

and leads to the worst, most devices and violent type of politics. chuck schumer is apparently a throwback to the democrats of the segregation era. he's not the only one. forr the last two nights, we've covered chicago's city key i.d. card, which isl specifically designed to appeal to illegal immigrants. it was designed with them in mind, for them. the mayor of that city, rahm emanuel, has said so repeatedly. and yet, that card will also serve as a valid i.d. for voter registration, which of course opens the door to illegal voting, which is the point. the city doesn't seem to care. in fact, they are encouraging it. austan goolsbee is an economics professor at the university of chicago and he joins us. austan, thanks for coming on. this seems like a challenge to the idea of democracy, which is that the people of the country, its citizens, ought to run the country. it seems like an invitation to foreign interference in the elections. i don't think there is any miss reading it.

the city is issuing this to illegal aliens, they said that out loud. they are not requiring proof of citizenship, obviously, to get at. and yet they are not requiring proof of citizenship and voter registration either. this card is enough. there you have it. they are creating a pipeline to illegal voting, voter fraud. >> they aren't, tucker. i'm your friend, and we have had many debates on immigration here. i thinkou you are just confused. all and i.d. does allows you to verify your identity,y, that you have the name that you say you have. it does not enable you, does not make you eligible to become a voter, any more than if a noncitizen is serving in the military, they are issued a military i.d. that is a valid form of government issuedd identificatin that, if they were a citizen, they could use it to register to vote but we should not object to the military issuing a military i.d. >> tucker: this isn't about

the military, and there aren't a ton of illegals serving in the military either, just as a factual matter. here's the point. if i had this card and i'm here illegally, i'm a noncitizen, maybe i'm here legally but i'm not a citizen. i take it to register to vote in illinois, what stops me from registering to vote? only self reporting. >> in most states -- >> tucker: oh, you have to say you're allowed to vote. the only thing stoppingg people from from voter fraud is their own conscience? >> it said you commit a felony. >> tucker: so if>> i believe a tray of rolex watches on the sidewalk in my view is people can take them, there is a felony -- >> tucker, there is nothing about illinois that is distinctive. that is a case in almost all th. states of the united states. >> tucker: all, that they issue government i.d. cardli specifically designed for illegal aliens? >> no, that when you register to vote, you do not document your

citizenship, you swear an oath that you are a citizen. >> tucker: hold on -- i get at. there are only two states that a 50 that require proof of citizenship. y we've spent the last year being lectured by the left about how foreign interference in our democratic process has hollowed out our democracy. i'm giving you a concrete example ofof how that could hapn and i believe is happening. >> you're making a mistake. >> tucker: hold on. why wouldn't we verify the citizenship of every voter. what the answer to that? >> the answer to that is because there are a large number of people, probably in the millions, who do not have that kind of citizenship. only t a third of the country hs a passport. so you would disenfranchise -- >> tucker: no. slow down. you don't need a passport. that's wrong. a third of the country -- almost -- those numbers are wrong. i do this for a living. i know that you're wrong.

it's not about passports. you can also bring a birth certificate. if you don't have one, we can get you one. if you took the money but we spent on the citi card i.d. and applied it to the people who don't have birth certificates, and got them birth certificates -- >> this city card i.d. as a subway card and a buzzer to check out library books. it will not give you the right to registeru to vote if you're not a citizen! >> tucker: yes, it does. hold on. it allows you to verify your identity only. that's all it does. >> tucker: tell me again. speak slowly. you were arguing in favor of voter fraud and your party is absolutely making it possible -- >> a homeless person cannot get a driver's license. they don't have an address. they can get one of these city net ids. they have the right to vote in the united states. they can use that and go down and verify -- >> tucker: hold on. let me ask you this. >> if they're not a citizen,

they can't register to vote. >> tucker: actually, they can! people are not allowed to rob a liquor stores and yet they do. they break the laws. the onus is on us. if we care for the integrity of our o elections, to do something to make sure that only people -- >> tucker, don't -- they're designed to allow people to check out books from the library, to ride on the subway, when they can't get a driver's license. >> tucker: looked,d, that is not the point and it's not the topic under discussion right now. i the topic is, are we making it easy for people to vote? we are saying the ideas are valid for voter registration. why don'tre we spend -- i'll contribute to it -- a little bit of money, verifying that everyone who votes, if we care about the sanctity of ourur elections, which the democratic party doesn't, then why don't we make sure that they are citizens voting? >> i understand that argument and it would apply to 48

different states, not just chicago. >> tucker: i agree completely. wyatt redoing that? >> we do not have a blanket rule that because of the fear that millions of legitimate citizens will have an onerous time. it will be difficult. >> tucker: why don't we help them? we just made a citi card for illegals. why don't we help our own citizens? i'mfu confused. >> we should -- >> tucker: were not even trying. we want illegals to vote. we should prosecute to the fullest extent of the law anyone that commits a felony. >> tucker: nope. you don't need to prosecute anyone. >> it allows you to vote despite the fact that you are ineligible. >> all it allows you to do is verify your name is what it says it is. it's an identification. >> tucker: were out of time. i think you know what i'm talking about. austan, thank you. good to see a. >> great to see you, suite three. >> tucker: south africa is implanting policies that are

targeting minorities within that country. forth theft and violence but tht country is sending that government hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars every year. why would that be? mark steyn joins us to discuss next. ♪ you walked together. you built your home again. my dna showed that i'm native american, and connected me to cousins who taught me about our tribe. my name is joseph reece, and this is my ancestrydna story. now with 10 million new family connections made every day. order your kit at ancestrydna.com

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le pen has been charged with a crime, a serious crime. what did c she do? in 2015, she tweets that showed executions committed not by her, but by isis. that is a crime somehow. in south africa, the parliament has begun amending the constitution to allow land owned by white south africans to be confiscated by the government without compensation. the motion was brought by a longtime gadfly and violent nutcase who clarified that he does not support killing the entire white population right now. so why does this matter? it's wrong. also, we give south africa a huge of taxpayer money. last year, we give them more than $350 million inan aid. obviously from thed dnc. mark steyn ist' an author, columnist, and world traveler. let's go in order. marine le pen, i don't know all that much about her, but i think you're allowed to send out tweets devices atrocities without being arrested. how is this happening?

>> she was also one of the two final candidates in the french presidential election, and it neverod looks good when in fact you are trying to criminalize political opposition, which is what the french state is trying to do with marine le pen, and as with the dutch state has tried to do with wilders. in this case, lefty french politiciansic were saying theres no difference between marine le pen's party and isis. what she did was point out that this is what isis does. isis drops off the heads of people it captures, including, in this case, james foley for my state, new hampshire. that is actually important. because there was a decadence in our political discourse where democrats for example frequently say, the social conservatives are as bad as the taliban. no, we are not.

there is one side that is burning homosexuals, flying them off rooftops, killing people for listening to music, come on and on the other side, there are people you have to disagree with anna western, multiparty system. you devalue political political discourse every time you comparable -- it's good for her for pointing out the difference. >> tucker: good for her. just south africa, which is of the tri- depressing story, it's almost hard to bring up. bottom line is, the left of the united states was against apartheid. it's worth being against that. that they were also championing for the african national congress, which has been in power ever since's 94 and they destroyed the country and now they are attempting to turn it into zimbabwe by crushing the in that country., okay. they are doing that. why are we subsidizing it with u.s. taxpayer dollars? >> yeah, you've got a point

there. just on the left was right to be against apartheid -- they were in south africa. just for the record, i regard what chuck schumer is doing, rejecting trump judicial nominees on the basis of race as progressive neo-apartheid. i don't like old-school apartheid or the new school democrat party apartheid. what is happening in south africa, in 1980, robert mcgarvey was told, you don't have to make the same mistakes as the first generation of independent african nations like tanzania and ghana. he went ahead and made them supersized. especially with regard to white farmers. 15 years later, the anc was told you don't need to make the same mistake that robert mcgarvey made in zimbabwe. now they are actually doing it all over again with the difference being missed: south africa is the economic anchor of that continent.

and it has existed with one-foot in the developed and 1 foot in the developing camp since that corrupt anc took over a couple of decades ago. if they actually turned south africaca into an economic basket case like zimbabwe, that has huge consequences, including the fact that millions and millions of people will be sent scurrying over the mediterranean into europe. the state department -- yeah. the state department should not be subsidizing matt. >> tucker: i agree. liberals pretend it's not happening, which is patronizing. why are liberals giving coverage of one of the most corrupt regimes in the world? i've never understood that. >> its virtue signaling. >> tucker: that's exactly. i guess i do understand. [laughs] such a good point. >> that's it. the fact that they are miserable makes no difference. miserable lives, lives ruined, people murdered. >> tucker: exactly.

theou great mark steyn, thank y, mark. so the white house announced today its plans to impose strict tariffs on steel and aluminum. markets didn't like it at all. it is a good idea anyway? one of the heads of the brain trust at the white house will join us in just a second. stay tuned. ♪ ! there's one. manatees in novelty ts? surprising. what's "come at me bro?" it's something you say to a friend. what's not surprising? how much money matt saved by switching to geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more.

♪ >> tucker: the president announced plans today to impose new tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum. many republicans are caught by surprise. several, like nebraska senator ben sasse ben sasse, denounced the t move, saying free-trade policies are superior because they haveor done so much for the midwest. to the markets didn't like it. they fell. experts warnede that trump could ignite a trade war. what is the nature of this? joining us tonight's peter navarro, assistant to the president, director of the white house national trade council. he joins us.

i will stand back and let you make your case. markets don't like it, wall street doesn't like it, but you think is a good idea because why? >>d there's no, sir, to surpris. candidate trump, 2016, said he would defend american borders against unfair trade practices,o fold up a manufacturing base. today was a strong step towardbo it. what was beautiful about today was that the people in that roo room. we had the top executives of the president asked them, what did they need to keep steel and aluminum in this country. we are in danger of losing those two industries. this was about national defense, national security, economic security, came in, as he has been doing, with a measured response that williv be very effective in keeping our jobs here. i think this was a great day for america. who should be surprised? he was doing what he said he was going to do. as for the market, look. you know for years, i was a

financial analyst on cnbc. i look at the markets. i'm telling the people of america, i've never seen an economy stronger and having indicators stronger than on the first month of the trump administration. business confidence is off the chart. the manufacturing index is one of the highest levels i have ever seen. we are going forward with an economy just as candidate trump scripted it. the regulation, a great lower tax cut plan, unleashing our energy sector, and trade. >> tucker: markets love all of those things except for the last one. they're afraid of anything that is not "free trade." why? >> what happened a month ago? we put 30% tariffs on solar, 20-50% tariffs on -- you know it does happen? w we've had a stream of investments coming in from

foreign countries to build facilities here for american workers. that's the genius of trump. he understands that tariffs basically will defend our workers but they will also bring investment here rather than they are. when those factories come from there to here, that is dropped throughout this country. this is a good day for america. i will tell you, you got to be in a room with president trump when he's talking to people. he had those executives, he hadn't seen them since april when this whole action was announced, he wanted to affirm that what he was going to be doing on this was the right thing to do. he went around that room, you had the head of century aluminum. all of them said, look, what we need our tariffs, not quotas, tariffs are better than quotas. we want tape measure, 25% not 100 100. 10% for a aluminum. >> tucker: you make a strong case.

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>> tucker: you have waited all ♪ >> tucker: you've waited all week but now it's time for "final exam." a bottle off returning champions thiswe week. "special report" brett bayer won, ed henry won two weeks ago but w was out last week. two champions enter, only one will emerge. here are the rules. hands-on browsers, i will ask the questions. the first went to bo's answer the question. you must wait until i finish asking the question in order to buzz. if you get it wrong, you lose a point. best of five wins. >> nerve-racking. >> tucker: of course it is! >> live television. >> tucker: question one.

the oldest sitting senator in america is having problems with her reelection campaign. the democratic party in her state refuses to support her. who is it? bret baier. c >> dianne feinstein. >> tucker: dianne feinstein of california says the anchor of "special report." to the tape. >> this is not ane. easy time -- >> are they all like this? >> party activist denying the state's senior senator and endorsement in her bid for reelection. >> tucker: the next question is, fair, balanced, and... [laughter] >> tucker: you knew that one. you are unafraid to answer that. question two, multiple choice. did you know that you could clone your pets? barbra streisand revealed this week that she did. she clone her favorite dog, named samantha. what is the going rate for dog cloning? $50,000, 500,000, or $1 million?

ed henry? >> 50,000. >> tucker: 50,000, said ed, there would be dog cloning. to the tape. >> she clone her dogs, two of her dogs, miss violet and miss scarlett, are clones of the lateam dog samantha, who passedn last year, at about $50,000 a pop. >> i didn't hear brian kilmeade but i heard laura ingraham talk about it. >> tucker: if you have a pet cloning question -- question three, oprah says that 2020 presidential run could be possible but she's waiting for a certain someone to give her the explicit go ahead. who is she waiting waiting to hearar from? >> wait. was that premature? >> tucker: hold on. only our judges -- i passed my responsibility -- can determine. did both of them click in early? hold me ed clicked in early.

>> early? >> this is like the nfl. >> tucker:at mrs. deflategate as point. i will go to the judges and say we will have a re-click. >> of the same question? >> tucker: same question. here we go. we haven't finished yet. who -- are you ready? >> y yes. >> tucker: she's waiting for a certain someone to give her the go-ahead. who is she waiting to hear from? ed henry? >> come on! >> the almighty god. >> tucker: the almighty god says ed henry. to the tape. >> billionaires calling me up saying i can get you a billion dollars, i can run your campaign, and i actually went into prayer about it. god, if you think i'm supposed to run, you got to tell me, and it has to be so clear that not even i could miss it. >> don't tell joy behar.op

[laughter] >> tucker: when you are oprah, only god can be your campaign manager. there is no one adequate. >> that was controversial. >> tucker: it was, trust me, it was. some of the great moments are. question four, the department of housing and urban development and secretary ben carson is accused of spending over 30 grand on the necessary furniture. what kind of furniture was it? bret baierer. >> dining sets. >> tucker: dining sets. why would he have a dining set? we'll find out on the tape. it is a dining set? >> carson reportedly spent $30,000 in a new dining set for his dining room in d.c. it also shows reported as saying a career staffer was behind the decision to buy the dining set, not secretary carson. >> tucker: wow. i was a humanities major, i will check the judges. where are we? 2-2. this is it for a tiebreaker. multiple-choice. there is a man currently running for congress in the state ofe arkansas, he shares a name with a rock 'n' roll legend.

is he named elvis presley, bruce springsteen, or mick jaeger? ed henry. >> elvis presley. >> tucker: elvis presley. it is that his name? >> arkansas' about to get all shook up. elvis presley is running for congress. this is legit, people. needless to say, the politician politician -- >> tucker: that was very intense. ed, you know win the coveted mug that shows "washington post" columnist -- >> i thought it was tucker carlson. >> tucker: i am on the back. [laughter] >> tucker: bret baier, thank you. that was controversial, but i felt it was fair. >> i felt better than when shannon bream beat me. [laughter] she justil annihilated me. >> tucker: you are not thee. only one she annihilated. thank you, gentleman. tune into the news each week and

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>> tucker: we're often told that tech is america's hottest and fastest >> sean: we are often told that tech is america's fastest growing -- the hottest business in the country's surveillance capitalism. spying on you, collecting your personal information and using my data to sell your products. that is what makes google and facebook so successful, not technological breakthroughs. but surveillance. your data are everywhere, and you are a lot weaker than big tech companies, so how could you protect c yourself, if you can? founder and ceo of topia technology joins us tonight. you are one of the world's experts on the subject. some up the ways that information about ourselves and what we do is being collected by these companies. >> tucker, thank you for having me. it is completely invasive at the

moment. if you start with your cell phone, l your laptop, your desktop, your car, children's o toys, there is now with this discussions about internet, your refrigerator will collect data on you. it is not just the collection of data. it is not a function of the data being stored in isolated silos. what's happening is this data is being cross-referenced, and is being analyzed. what would normally be a patchwork quilt affect, insights into our o lives, now they havea complete picture of our lives and our lifestyle. >> sean: that is the key point, what you just said. i think most people don't know it. it's never talked about in public. really simple question. why do they have the right to take your kids toys and refrigerator and give that information to someone else and to use against you? >> the unfortunate nature of the current internet is that ed grew up on what is called a provision model. if you want to use email service for example, you would go toav

google and provision of service. so we've kind of been lulled into it. it started out benign. what ends up happening now is that we are now the product, so that all the different companies have data and it is not so much that t they have a right to do , it is just that we have it to stop doing it. >> tucker: i read where you wrote that facebook knows when you your relationships are failing. that seems like a level of intimate knowledge that -- your priest doesn't know that you. >> that's true. [laughs] remember that people are putting this information on facebook, and so it's really a function of becoming more discriminating about what data you share and who you share it with, but this all goes back to a particular theme. because of that provisioning model, the central authorities, the larger tech companies and smaller tech companies, frankly, have begun to amass data on us. the only way that you can really

change this is you either have inside reform, where suddenly they are making decisions about its values and ethics, or you do it by disrupting. >> sean: i will be in the alps, unavailable. thank you. good night from washington. here's sean. >> sean: welcome to "hannity." we are following six major breaking news stories tonight. a great one, mark levine, tomi lahren, reince priebus will be here. a massive development. the fbi may have in fact broken the law and violated their own protocol when getting a fisa were introduced spy on carter page. this according to a brand-new letter out tonight from the house intelligence committee chairman devin nunes. also tonight, the important questions are being asked. we should have answers very soon. also tonight, trump-russia collusion crusader adam shifts, he is admitting, we have the tape, he has seen no