in jail. thanks for watching tonight. that's our story. see you tomorrow at 7:00. tucker carlson is next. >> tucker: good evening. welcome to tucker carlson tonight. house republicans trey gowdy and bob goodlatte are demanding the appointment of a new special counsel to investigate civil liberties by the doj and the fbi. more on that in a minute. first, sam nunberg went on television and the news world ground to a halt. nothing else happened. americans stopped dying of drug ods, the borders were secure. most of the day, all that matters is sam nunberg.

watch. >> good evening. i'm erin burnett. breaking news. defined and speaking out, trump's former campaign aide sam nunberg refusing to comply with a grand jury subpoena in the russian investigation. >> this is not what the white house wanted to hear. what does he know? >> a former trump campaign aide who said he was subpoenaed. >> the history of american news media we have never witnessed anything like this. >> who writes news copy? russian bots. sam nunberg speaking out. who is sam nunberg? yesterday he was a pretty obscure part time political consultant from new york city who has been struggling with a substance abuse problem. he's a nice guy, but you have probably never heard of him. now people are telling you that he could be the john dean of the

scandal. he was nowhere near the decisions when they were made. he worked at the low level of the campaign. he left 1 1/2 years before the election. if there was a russia conspiracy, sam nunberg wouldn't know anything about it. more likely what was going on yesterday, nunberg brilliantly played the press. turns out this friday he's talking to robert mueller's investigators which is another measure of how absurd this independent counsel investigation is. others have been charged with perjury after doing interviews with mueller's investigators. nunberg won't be. why? he just admitted in public to being a alcoholic and acted like a lunatic on television for hours. it's the perfect preemptive insanity defense. mueller can't indict him. after yesterday, no jury would convict sam nunberg. was that his plan? we don't know really. if it was, none of the people interviewing him yesterday would have figured out.

there's nobody dumber than at cnn and msnbc. how dumb? dumb enough to see russian saboteurs under every bed. russian has waning power on the world stage. one military base out sides its borders. the imaginary russia, the one you see on television, has never been more powerful. the dnc and nbc news, putin is diabolical and omnipotent. he empowered the nra. hand picked sam nunberg and carter page to undermine our democracy. it's delusional. they believe it. meanwhile, back in the real world, evidence mounts that the actual problem is not the russians or vladimir putin, it's the corrupt and decadent resolutely stupid leadership of

our own elites. that's why trump got elected. in reaction to them. that's why the european union is about to collapse. just this weekend in italy, the ruling party was crushed while anti-establishment candidates won big. polls show that people are unhappy with economic policy. they hated the immigration policies that have crushed their national culture under waves of migrants. sounds familiar? there as here, the elites have failed. they can't admit that. they can't face their own failure. so they blame russia. samantha power said that. russian won the italian election, she explained. maybe samantha power and her friends at msnbc and the rest have no choice but to keep pretending. the far ruling class admitted the truth about russia, they would have to take responsibility for their

failures, and they won't. chrissy setzer joins us. this italian thing happened. it's another domino that is leading clearly toward the dissolution of the european union. russia did that? >> it's possible they played a role. it's possible. what we have seen -- these two things can be true at the same time. one, it can be true that organically independently we are seeing across the globe these movements that are populous, anti-immigrant. also it being true that russia is stirring the pot, we have found out that russian troll farm was spending a million dollars a month in 2016 in the u.s. elections to, again, stir the pot, to influence our elections by --

>> tucker: in the democrats spend -- wait. i'm not saying russia is not destabilizing the united states. i'm saying it's irrelevant. if you look at the poll numbers, people are dissatisfied with the leadership of the people in charge. that's why trump got elected. that's why brexit happened. that's why scandinavia is about to turn. in each one of these cases, the elites rather than accepting responsibility blame it on a foreign hand. you don't see a thread here? >> i think both things can be true. it's true on one hand that there was unrest among the country that was unhappy with the leaders that they have been given the last decade, couple decades. at the same time, it's also true that russia has been grooming donald trump for years. that's what the steele dossier says. >> tucker: hold on. i don't think it's fair or honest to say the allegation is

russia is just helping populous or right wing movements. the claim is also that the russians are helping bernie sanders. right? and they were helping jill stein. >> they were happening anti-hillary clinton. >> tucker: they are paying for the most left wing cable station there is, rt. >> a pro russia station. not necessarily left wing. >> tucker: maybe the obvious is true. the morning shows on msnbc, the people that have been making policy haven't taken into account the views of voters and voters are mad about that. so rather than learn something from what is happening, they're blaming forces that aren't there, the russians. >> the russian forces are in fact there. i think all you have to do is listen to not just samantha power, you can listen to any one of -- you can listen to our own secretary of state. you can listen to rex tillerson --

>> tucker: i don't care. none of those people is wise beginning with san -- so man that powers who foreign policy has left the region in tatters. she says that democratic voters are reacting against. so do you think there's any coincidence that the russia hoax is being used to discredit not anybody on the right but anybody that challenges power. you notice that? >> i disagree calling it a russia hoax. if we can go back to the origins of what the hoax were, it went back to well-before the 2016 election. that's when we first learned about it. you may remember from one of the debates with hillary clinton when she talked about 17 intelligence agencies that have concluded that russia has been trying to meddle, influence the

inu.s. -- >> tucker: no evidence has emerged from that date till now that its real. i want you to think about something written in rolling stone today by a left wing writer, this is someone that hates trump. a full-on lefty. said this "by an amazing coincidence, all of the candidates that terrified the political status have talked about covert russian destabilization initiatives run by putin." it's not clear to you this is a reaction about voters who are mad because nothing is working for them and rather than listen to them, the elites are like oh, it's not our fault. it's it'spy -- it's putin's fault? >> i -- >> tucker: i'm amazed someone as smart as you.

maybe the claims are defenseless. you don't see that? >> i believe both things are true. i believe there's populous unrest in our country in 2016. i believe the russians saw that, leveraged it, fanned the flames -- >> tucker: there's no evidence they did that. >> there's plenty of evidence. go back to the trump tower meeting. >> tucker: i can't -- i wanted to keep this as a higher level. when we get to the details it gets so frustrating that i can't continue. christy, thank you so much. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: brit hume joins us. you've been in the media a long time and the television for many days. when you saw sam nunberg, did you think to yourself, i would have put him on if i were a bureau chief or i wouldn't have? >> i very much hoped i would not have. it was very much noting, cnn's erin burnett and said i smell

liquor on your breath. could she have been the first and only cnn anchor to know that the guy was drunk? not only that, he's a very troubled soul. as a journalist when you come along, you don't have to make a psychiatric diagnose to know that someone you're talking to may not be okay. whatever this person says may be questionable. yet this guy held sway over the airwaves for hours on end, particularly on cnn. i guess others picked it up and it got quite a ride. the principle thing that made the headline is when he said he wasn't going to cooperate with mueller. by this morning that was gone and he said he was going to cooperate with mueller. as a matter of fact, he has little choice. but that was a nonstory that lived all day long because it feeds this whole narrative that something terrible is wrong and we have an unqualified president under the influence of russia and god knows what else. >> tucker: so to make that point, you have someone under

the influence of alcohol and jump around and degrade the person that is interviewing him. i wonder if there's a cost long-term when you do stuff like that. >> well, you know, tucker, what we're looking at here, there's been a belief for the longest team that the trump election was illegitimate. there's a sense in the media his election constitutes a national emergency because he's an unqualified character and so likely to lead us off a cliff that it's a job of the media to join the resistance and to find out what must be behind his election and what scandals must lurk there to take him down. that's plainly what this is about. the media joined the resistance. the coverage of this i think has been in the mainstream media extremely one-sided, misguided. any number of stories that turned out badly all along the way. you'll remember cnn, the group of their senior people saying that they had word that when

comey testified that he was going to testify that he never told donald trump that he was not under investigation and the next day comey testified the opposite. you wonder how stories like that can get past these seasoned journalists if they're not on a crusade. i think they are. >> tucker: i remember when the russians hacked the national power grid. do you think it might help oh but they didn't, of course. you think it might help the rest of us watching us what you seeing is political advocacy? what you're watching is one side waging partisan battle against the other? >> yeah. but you know, it's strikingly effective. your previous guest, she didn't want to let go of the narrative that is out there that russia had an important effect on the election. the evidence as you pointed out is extremely light at best. you know, anything that russia did to the tune of a million dollars a month is dwarfed by

the rest of the spending and the other things that influenced the outcome of the elections. it's something that is held on to for dear life. it's the story of coverage. it's enraged that people that see things more clearly than that but on and on it goes. you see it in the character assassination of devin nunes who puts up with unbelievable assaults on him. they continue to this day that he's the guy at fault where on the democratic side, there's an unbelievable leak fest. not a proud moment right now. >> and msnbc called nunes a russian agent. two years ago, you'd be fired for saying something like that if you continue support it. >> it's reporters on hysteria. it's over the top. you don't have to be a trump admirers to realize that things

that are being said are wildly unproportioned. >> tucker: i know people that hate trump that believe that. thanks, brit. another fixture at the trump administration is stepping down. national economic council director gary cohn says he's planning to leave the administration. why? ed henry joins us tonight with details. hi, ed. >> there's no tried to the idea that he can't bring stability to his white house, his lead economic adviser is heading for the exit. the president says there's turnover in every white house. there's a particular large number lately from hope hicks, rob porter, communications directors, national security advisers and chief of staffs. gary cohn was a key architect of the tax cut and the regulatory reform that has propelled this economy. with the markets getting more

volatile, this is a big loss for the president. white house officials tonight are insisting cohn is not running out just because of that one dispute. in fact, it was two months ago the president boasted that he wanted cohn to stick around for a long time. this is going to feed the mainstream narrative, that there's chaos in the white house. at the president said he likes conflict, different points of view on trade, diversity of thought is something that is supposed to be celebrated and it was reince priebus that said critics may pounce on a meandering process but the media should be focused on results. i'm not sure people will agree with that or report that but that's what his former chief of staff said. >> tucker: thanks, ed. top republicans are demanding a new special prosecutor to investigate abuses of civil liberties by the fbi. what does that mean? will it happen? details coming up.

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the inspector general has no subpoena power, he has no authority to interview anybody outside the department of justice or fbi. he cannot even interview fbi or doj employees that left. he cannot interview clapper, brennan. he can't interview all of the people that have left, yates, all of those people. the bottom line is, you have to have a grand jury. fascinating. a grand jury and a special investigation in russia-gate and peer where there's phi have a violations where there's huge numbers of violations by various people in various departments and there's no grand jury. >> tucker: part of the reason to have a special counsel is to restore a public faith in the system. seems to be making public the fisa request for the warrants would go a long way of ending the debate. can it happen, would it happen? >> it should happen.

i can not conceive of anything in affidavits that would compromise the methods. the american people have a right to see them. what this is about, tucker, there was a brazen plot by senior officials at doj and the fbi and the obama administration and senior obama administration intelligence officials to exonerate hillary clinton falsely and then to frame donald trump if hillary lost the election. we need a grand jury, we need the fisa applications out and we need it done and done now. >> tucker: so here's a new angle. peter strzok that still works at the bureau in human resources may have known about a breach of hillary clinton's private e-mail server but apparently didn't do anything about it. sources have told fox news in the final months of the fbi's investigation of the server,

information was found that created a breach. strzok overseeing the investigation took no action in response according to our sources. maybe he was too busy sending anti-trump messages to his mistress or whatever. does that seem out of the ordinary to you? >> it's absolutely out of the ordinary. here's what happened on top of that. james clapper, the director of national intelligence under obama, when he found out that hillary clinton's server had been compromised by law, they're required by law to conduct a damage assessment. he refused. clapper refused to do a damage assessment, and that is why strzok decided not to investigation the compromise of hillary's server. >> tucker: on what grounds did clapper, the same one that under oath lied to congress and the public, on what grounds did he refuse to do a damage assessment? >> because he wanted to protect

hillary and he could do it, and he had the consent of the president not to do an assessment. by that, president obama. >> tucker: that's shocking. thank you, joe. i appreciate that. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: a group of physicians are calling on doctors to shame gun owners during checkups. kind of an amazing story. it may happen. stay tuned. don't we need that cable box to watch tv? nope. don't we need to run? nope. it just explodes in a high pitched 'yeahhh.' yeahhh! try directv now for $10 a month for 3 months. no satellite needed. [thud] [screaming & crying] ♪ [screaming & crying]

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>> tucker: most cable new shows are varied. but on msnbc, joy reed's show has one topic. everybody that disagrees with her is a racist. take a look. >> it's been no secret that trump harbors racist attitudes. we're another western world feeding on the fear of nonwhite and non-christian immigrants. trump ushers in an embolden kkk and alt right that will soon have a place in the white house. we grapple what it means to have a president stained by racism. >> tucker: that's the whole show every week. no need for you to watch, though you might be tempted. when your joy reed bigotry.

watch this. >> he reportedly also said that nancy pelosi has been trying to come up with a line as good as "lock her up" and her line, says donald trump, that she announced last week is "mow the grass." that isn't going to stop ms-13. mow the freakin' grass. that sounds like an aspersion at mexican americans. that's how it read it. >> tucker: of course. in reality, trump is ridiculing over nancy pelosi over proposals that the boarder can be kept with lawn care. >> we have to mow the grass so

people can't hide in it. we're mowing the grass so people can't be smuggled through the grass. >> tucker: so is pelosi the secret grand wizard? we'll see if she gets denounced, too. can't wait. ready to get a gun control lecture next time you go to doctor. doctors are being urged to campaign for gun control and how unsafe it is to own guns. the editorial says don't let your concerns for perceived political views. doctor, thanks for coming in. >> thanks for having me, tucker. >> tucker: i was reading about this and you said that the massacre in las vegas urged you to do this. would this have presented that?

that if you told this to stephen paddock that he wouldn't have opened fire? >> no. that's not what our proposal is. we treat firearm injury like a public health problem that it's become. one opportunity to do that is for doctor to talk to patients that are at risk for injuring themselves or others with guns and how to deal with it more safely. >> tucker: so you're not an expert on guns. would it be uncomfortable if i gave you medical advice? >> yeah, that would. >> tucker: me too. that's why i wouldn't do it. >> i'm not an expert on guns. i am a medical expert. part of what physicians do is to assess risk and help talk to their patients about mitigating those risks. >> tucker: assess risk. like when you send tens of millions of opioids no to

appalachia. how about that risk? >> we do assess risk. it wasn't doctors that send tens of billions of doses of opioids to appalachia or other plays. >> tucker: yes, it was. >> we assess high blood pressure, smoking, risky sexual behavior that people puts at risk for infections. like when people are elderly and at risk for falls. we ask about area rugs in the home. we talk to patients about -- lots of different risks that we assess. this proposal is to remind physicians that when they have a patient that is at risk for harming themselves or others to ask about whether they have guns in the home and talk to them about more safely storing those guns or other interventions that can make them and their family safer. >> tucker: would you acknowledge that there are people that should have a gun in a home? if there's a tough area where there's home invasions, would

you'd say you better have a way to defend yourself? >> as a physician i would not. i don't think that that would be any my purview to do. it's certainly people's right in this country. if that person was at risk of harming themselves or others, i'd counsel them maybe they shouldn't. >> tucker: if the point of this is harm reduction as you claim it was, then if someone was a delivery man in a tough neighborhood delivering the newspaper or delivering to bodegas at 3:00 a.m., wouldn't you say it's better to be armed? >> actually, tucker there are data out there that show that if people have access to a gun in their home, it doesn't keep them safer. they're higher risk for completed suicide or a gun homicide. people that have guns in their home. so your assumption that having a gun in your hope keeps your safer, there's day that that

refutes that assumption. >> tucker: i don't think you know the data. when you take suicide out of that, it's a different picture. that's a separate question to ask you about. whether you're against suicide and trying to prevent suicide. is there no circumstance safer with a gun? >> no. in the systematic review pun established in the annals of internal medicine, suicide and whether the person had guns in the home, the risk for a completed suicide and the gun homicide was higher for individuals -- >> i'm familiar with those statistics. they're misleading. i'm surprised you're citing them. serious people know that. let me ask you this. i'm disabled and i live at the end of a long road where the police can't get there within ten minutes, there's home invasions, i feel i need a gun, would you say no, you don't need

a gun? what would be your advice? >> that's the patient's choice. but if the patient was depressed and at risk for suicide or having homicidal ideations or cognitive deficits, i would probably counsel them that it was more safe for them not to have a gun than have a gun. >> tucker: that's fair. if the person was going to kill themselves, you're right. so you as an organization have taken a strong position against suicide, is that right? >> yeah. >> tucker: not all physicians have. >> many physicians are -- i don't think there's many physicians that advocate suicide, tucker. >> tucker: i don't know. like the entire state of oregon where it's legal and a lot of physicians participate in it. there's a lot that are for suicide. >> you're talking about a completely different issue.

you're talking about assistant suicide for those at the end of their life. that has no idea -- >> tucker: i don't know. people shoot themselves with guns all the time in terminal pain or facing a terminal illness. you're saying suicide is okay with a physician -- i'm trying to get to the nut of what you believe. >> i think suicide with a gun is messy and not something that physicians support. one of the things that is lost -- >> tucker: but suicide with a needle is okay. >> what? >> tucker: suicide with a needle is okay but suicide with a gun is wrong because it's messy? is that what you're saying? >> it's wrong. physician assisted suicide is not done with injection drugs. you're talking about euthanasia which is not legal in this country. >> you're dead at the end no matter what. doesn't seem a different category to me. obviously you disagree. >> tucker: i thought we were going to talk about the fire air

injury? >> tucker: we were but the majority are suicides as you said. so you're trying to protect them from that, as you said, so i was trying to get to the nub of what you believe. i don't think it's an option to spew platitudes. so -- >> if you give me an opportunity, i will. so what -- >> tucker: i think i have. doctor, i think i've given you six or seven minutes. i think you've had a chance to explain it. i appreciate it. thank you. the nra says it's fed up with dishonest journalists and warning them their time is running out. what does that mean? more next. stay tuned. ♪ we the people... are defined by the things we share. and the ones we love. who never stop wondering what we'll do or where we'll go next. we the people who are better together than we are alone...

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media, to every hollywood phony, to the role model athletes that use their free speech to undermine what our flag regular sents, to the politicians that would rather watch american burn than to lose their own national power, to the late night hosts who think their opinions are the only ones that matter, to the morning jos, the mikas, to those that stain honest reporting with partisanship, to those that bring bias and propaganda, your time is running out. >> that's dana lash. in the ad she speaks for the nra. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me, tucker. >> tucker: so you are being criticized for inciting violence by saying "time is up." what does that mean? >> that's a play on the times up movement, the hollywood

progressi progression. at the very end of that video, it was an announcement for a program that i'm doing for nra tv. free people have the the right to hold accountable and fact check the press. to those in the media and those in hollywood that are lying, yes this is an indictment of you. the program for nra tv which launches at the end of the month is focusing on media malpractice and holding them accountable, which we have seen tons of particularly in the past year. >> tucker: where do you think that comes from? >> i think it's just honestly -- i think there's a lot of people that don't understand middle america. they don't understand

individuals that are second amendment practitioners. you talked about this before. i was fed up with mainstream media, legacy media and the malpractice thereof. we saw how they impugned the characters of those people, the members of the tea party. they ignore maligned conservative women. they ignore gay conservatives. they bash good people in fly-over nation that were good enough to vote for the clintons for how many year. and they turn around and vote for trump, those people are bigots and racists. we've watched media malign so many good americans and report one side of the story. look at everything that happened with parkland. where is the media focusing on the broward sheriff for fighting the "miami herald" who has done epic work in this story?

they filed a lawsuit against the sheriff with the video. how about the media that has let the mental crisis spiral out of control? instead, they're writing about my musical likes and my appearance and my husband and law-abiding gun owners instead of doing due diligence and acting like the watch dog of the people. who watches the watchers? that's the question. >> tucker: if you're going to try to take people's guns away, don't you have a moral obligation to protect them from themselves? >> yeah, that's what i don't understand. we're looking at multiple systemic failures coming from the government. we have these individuals that says you can trust the government to protect you. they didn't with garland, texas and they didn't with the navy yard and they didn't in parkland

and they didn't in charleston. i can go on and on. this were balls dropped in every one of those instances. the political class has been silent. >> tucker: of course. >> they haven't been moved to make sure the background check system works like wayne la pierre has cold for 25 years to do. so this is where the focus -- that's where the focus should be in all of this. >> tucker: of course. >> but to the point of people trying to say that fact checking media is violent. the progressive left has opinion violent a long time. i can't take criticism of people that ignore the fires of ferguson and ignore antifa violence and so many other things and now they want to act like it's threatening to fact check media. >> tucker: if you're asking questions about the people in charge, you're working for vladimir putin. so good luck with your new russia masters. >> i had russian salad dressing.

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>> tucker: 15 years ago, facebook didn't exist. today it dominates our lives, shapes our conversations and determines how we think. americans spend close to an hour every day on facebook. the company wants more. facebook is rolling out a new app messenger for kids. it's aimed as children as young as six. more than 100 child developments experts say this is a bad idea

and serves to addict kids to social media earlier than ever. the company seems to be ignores that. jim stire is here. thanks for coming on. have i mischaracter sized this app and who it's aimed at? >> no, you nailed it, this is about social media for the kindergarten set. it is basically getting hooked kids at younger and younger ages, 6, 7, 8, on social media platforms like facebook. it crazy. we don't need it. that's why the experts suggested that. >> tucker: we know that heavy social media use needs to depression, social maladjustment. the implication is that it can hurt people. so why would facebook want to do this? >> because it's in their own economic best interest. truthfully you're trying to hook people at younger and younger ages to the brand and the

concept. it's a economic incentive. obviously it's missing out on all the negative inintended consequences that you referred to. this is a no-brainer for a parent. why would you want your 6-year-old using facebook or instagram? this should be a nonstarter for parents. >> tucker: i'm sure r.j. reynolds would like to have a new cigarette that is kindergarten friendly. adults can decide to do that if they want. our society does not allow cigarette makers to sell to children. why do we allow this for facebook when we know it harms them? >> it's like candy-coated cigarette. to hook kids at younger ages. it's not a good idea at all. brings up the broader issue, how do you get your kids away from the screen, enjoying the outdoors and world around them? you don't want them sitting on social media platforms in kindergarten or at any age.

>> tucker: yeah. we know it affects kids ability to read and retain information and to think clearly. so is there any legislative effort to pull back or are we just passive in the face of a threat to our children? >> no, no, actually, tucker, there's a lot of good stuff coming on this kind of issue. there's stuff here on the west coast in terms of looking at addiction research that needs to be done around social media platforms. much greater privacy concern now. a number of different legislative efforts to try to either encourage or require companies to respect the young kids in their audience and that will grow. we passed a bill called the eraser button here in california a couple years ago so that kids made dumb decisions can erase them. you'll see a growing public outcry. while you're covering it helps as well. >> tucker: i hope so. i can see them marketing to babies how to crawl.

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