>> i'm flattered, but i'd rather be talking with you on saturday. david: how do you think, bruce? you're more favorable to the position of tariffs. do you think it should be a free trader or somebody like navarro or somebody who created the tariffs? >> i think it would be good that we had somebody-- i mean, steve would be good, he has the ability to communicate and i don't agree with larry kudlow, but larry kudlow has the ability to communicate and this was the final humiliation with gary cohn, we thought he would leave when he was upset what trump said after the charlottesville neo-nazi parade and now he's going-- i don't think he's going to get to go back to goldman sachs because he wasn't rising to the ceo job there. so, he was ineffective. so, i think what trump needs is somebody to be able to communicate what he's trying to do. david: patrice, you have 15 seconds, who do you think the nominee should be or will be? >> i do hope it's somebody more of a free market oriented person. david: okay. all right. >> my choice is larry kudlow. david: larry kudlow.

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>> the democratic party are labeled with calling these tax cuts that seem to be so successful, just crumbs. >> yes, the democratic party has always been against the taxpayers, so this tax cut is helping the taxpayers, that's going over well in this district. every day it seems that people are coming up and telling how it's benefitting them and single moms and small businesses that are expanding. i just had another business telling me they're going to blow out a wall and move into the next room. david: that was pennsylvania's g.o.p. candidate rick saccone on

nancy pelosi trying to walk back her controversial crumbs comment, to democratic congressman henry cuellar from texas. appreciate it. >> thank you so much. david: everybody has heard the crumbs comment from nancy pelosi and i'm sure you're going to hear it a lot more to the november mid terms. a lot of republicans are going to use that. she's tried to walk it back, but you guys are kind of stuck with that label with her comment, calling these bonuses from tax cuts crumbs. >> i don't know if she was referring to the tweet that paul ryan was talking about when he talked about for somebody making 1.50 bragging about that. look, we support tax cuts. it's a matter of how they have the proceeds of those tax cuts and i think it's healthy to debate how we divide that. and i scored tax cuts, but i didn't like the fact that the individual tax cuts were

temporary, and the business cuts were-- >> well, that all depends on you guys, you can actually cut them or make them permanent if you want, right? you can make them permanent in congress, can't you? >> well, yeah, why do we know the did why do we not do that in the first place. do it for business and for individuals and that's what we need to do. by the way, if you're going to ask me about bonuses, i agree bonuses are good. i'm happy that bonuses were given out. david: you wouldn't call them crumbs? >> you know, because, and you know-- if you give somebody a bonus, there are some people in my district that live check by check, but you can't-- you know, you can't plan on a one-time bonus or do a retirement on a one-time bonus. david: but it ain't crumbs and it ain't bad. that's what a lot of people are saying. >> i-- >> and congressman, the jobs, we had these extraordinary jobs numbers on friday, and we've had some other good economic news as

well. it appears that as imperfect as these tax cuts may be, they're at the very least, not hurting the economy. the economy seems to be in a good place right now. and wouldn't you credit the tax cuts for at least some of that? >> well, of course, for some of that, i support cutting down regulations, unnecessary regulations and i support having a reasonable tax cuts, of course i support that, but you know, remember, in december of 2007. we were losing 259,000 jobs a month under the bush administration, and then let me just finish, we started seeing a movement under the obama administration, of course under the trump administration. i don't care if it's a democrat or a republican, i want to see an economy that grows, whether it's a democrat or a republican. and we've just got to make sure that we support reasonable tax cuts because remember, one thing we haven't talked about is the

deficit. when trump, the administration, when he became the president, we had a 450 billion dollar deficit. now it's now at 950 billion dollars. david: well, yeah, of course the debt went from 10 to 20 trillion dollars under president obama so things go both ways. >> and tax cuts are good. david: the new platform of the i can -- of the democratic party would raise the corporate taxes and you're in favor of tax cuts, but your party say if they're in power they would raise taxes. >> and the republican platform have things they wouldn't support. i'll tell you what i support. i want to see reasonable tax cuts and apply to the middle class, wills and president lincoln was right when he said you don't help the poor by tearing down the rich or help the worker by tearing down

businesses so we have to find balance. david: congressman, you are a balanced congressman from the democratic side. i think that's what a lot of people in your state like about you, and that's why they vote for you, but i would ask a moderate democrat such as yourself. what you think about the immigration debate. because you have a mayor in oakland, california not only suggesting that local authorities not cooperate with ice agents, but going one step further and actually tipping off criminals. and i'm not just talking about dreamers here. hardened criminals that were among the group she was tipping off, that ice agents were coming to get them. are you supportive of what she did? >> well, i don't know exactly what she did, but i can tell you generally what i support. why support sanctuary cities. i don't want sanctuary cities, i voted against sanctuary cities. i don't think that anybody needs to tip anybody. if they're criminals we ought to report those criminals and those are the people, but if you have dreamers or people with are

people can provide work and have a legitimate immigration reform that works for everybody, i think we need to get together with the republicans and find, again, a balanced approach to immigration reform. david: but i do have to ask you because we know what she did. we know that she set her sanctuary city up. we know that she advised local officials not to cooperate with the feds. and we know that she was announcing that an ice raid was coming. i mean, you know that happened. do you support that or not? >> again, i don't support sanctuary cities. again, we-- as long as there's a federal law and that law is in place, we have to adhere to that law, so, again, i don't agree with sanctuary cities and i don't-- he think the local folks-- >> so i assume then that what you're saying, if you disagree with somebody who is doing something counter to the law, that that person has to face consequences. what are the consequences that she should face for what she did?

>> again, i'll repeat my answer, i don't know exactly what she did, but generally speaking, i'm against sanctuary laws. david: okay. >> and then, you know, we can't not be working against our immigration officials. david: and those who do should be arrested? >> i'm sorry? >> host who do should be a arrested? those who tip-off criminals should be arrested? >> i don't know the legal implications to that, but again, i would not do that myself. david: we'll leave it at that. congressman henry cuellar, thank you for coming in on this saturday. appreciate it. >> thank you so much. david: absolutely. the drip, drip continues, more leaks on robert mueller's russia probe. more details, you're not going to believe, coming up. we had long deployments in iraq. i'm really grateful that usaa was able to take care of my family while i was overseas serving. it was my very first car accident. we were hit from behind. i called usaa and the first thing they asked was 'are you ok?' they always thank you for your service, which is nice because

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>> news is popping on the mueller probe all week and on the leaks taking place within the mueller probe. garrett is live in d.c. with the latest.

and that's what some people think the leaks are coming from, right, garrett? >> well, david, each week, we seem to learn bits and pieces of exactly where the special counsel is in his investigation. there's no sign that mueller's team is close to wrapping up this investigation. just yesterday, a grand jury for the investigation heard testimony from former trump campaign aide nunberg saying that key administration officials were lying with regards to russia. and criminal attorneys said they undermined his credibility when he had a number of erattic tv interviews when he suggested he may refuse that subpoena to testify. investigators continued to interview and review testimony from campaign and administration officials, including former white house chief of staff reince priebus. the president's lawyer john dowd released a statement to make it clear, the president was in no way interfering with the

investigation by doing that. the president has been remarkably disciplined and respectful and cooperative with the special counsel. the conversations with reince priebus and mcgann were not about substance, but whether they had received professional and fair treatment. they were with the president's approval and waiving privilege, this is not obstruction. and the counsel's office is looking at a meeting between erik prince, and the brother of education secretary betsy devos, and from abu dhabi, with ties to vladimir putin. and that was looked into to establish a back channel. erik prince denied on capitol hill recently. and they want to speak to him again. david: a busy week. good to see you. the lawmaker wants to plug up the leaks from the russia probe

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>> this is our live shot from moon township, pennsylvania. this is where the president is speaking tonight. there's a special election going on there. it's a very tight race, goes three points either way, depending on the day or the poll you're looking at. the president, no doubt, is going to do a lot to increase chances of a republican win. a lot of people see this as a bellwether for what is going to happen in november. so, if, in fact, the republican wins in this special election, it could be very good for the republicans. if not, not so. house oversight committee member gary palmer joins us now. congressman, we're going to be talking about leaks coming from

the mueller campaign. i want to ask you about the special election. if, in fact, the republican pulls it off, is that a good indicator what might happen in november? >> obviously, it will be. but i don't think it -- i think it would be more damaging to the democrats if we win than damaging to the republicans if we lose. i think what we've done with the economy and particularly with the tax cuts, as more and more people see money in their pockets, as more jobs are created, i think that that is the wave that the democrats fear more than anything else. david: all right, well, we will be watching and we'll be covering that live this evening. let's turn to the investigations going on and the leaks that are coming out, particularly leaks, sort of intended to hurt the president's position, it appears. i'm wondering where you think these leaks are coming from. are they coming directly from the mueller investigative unit? >> i'm not sure.

that you made a point there they appear to be hurting trump's position. i'm concerned it's compromising national security. i think at this point we've had so many leaks both from the mueller investigation and from the house intelligence committee and other places that it may be time for the department of justice to launch an investigation into that because i think this is very, very serious and in particular in the context of classified information. david: well, do you think. >> we just had a sailor get a pardon because he took pictures inside a submarine, that's how serious we take this in the law and yet, we've got people leaking classified information. david: a lot of people have gone to jail over leaking stuff, classified stuff. i wonder if you think it's indicative of the mueller investigation itself and whether, in fact, it has a bias against the president? >> well, we're still looking into that and i think this investigation being done by the

inspector general, michael horowitz, and his report that will be coming out later in the spring, may shed some light on that. it appears, and from the memo from-- that we read regarding the warrants to the fisa court, indicate that there is a bias. and i think that anytime you get into a situation like this where people could be subject to prosecution, there are going to be things done where they're trying to protect themselves, but also trying to undermine the investigation itself and undermine the president's position. david: well, you have a fellow alabaman, who is the attorney general of the united states right now. do you think there's a need for a second special counsel to investigate the investigators? >> i think there could be, and the interesting thing about this is, is that frey frey gouddy

and goodlat, and i think that it should get everyone's attention, i think it's gotten general session's attention. >> let me ask you about the spectacle this week of one of the potential witnesses for mr. mueller, sam nunberg, who appeared on just about every television news program there was, whether it was network or cable at various points. some people calling it into question whether he was actually drunk. i'm wondering if this is the kind of witness that mr. mueller is relying on in his investigation, what does that say about the investigation? >> well, first of all, part of what i saw, it came across as bizarre and i think it seriously undermines his credibility as a witness and i would hope that, as the mueller and his team are going forward, that they're going to take this into account.

you know, you've got people that have been claiming this russian collusion since the day of the election, yet, i haven't seen any indication that there's solid evidence to back that up, and i'm hoping that the mueller team will wrap this up fairly quickly. i think there are other issues that we need to get into. david: when i heard the phrase solid information, i don't think that sam nunberg, there's nothing solid about the guy. it's sort of like using the trump dossier for a fisa warrant. it's the same kind of process, where either bad information or bad witnesses are used to make the case. >> i think a lot of people are trying to cover some things up, frankly, and you mentioned the dossier, and the fact that on three of the warrants, maybe all four of the warrants, there was no indication given to the fisa judges that these might be compromised, that there were campaign funds involved in this.

and i just-- i think that what we've got to get to, is we need to see what comes out of horowitz's investigation and we need for mueller to wrap this up. david: congressman gary palmer, great to see you, congressman. really appreciate you coming in on a saturday. thank you. >> glad to be with you, david. david: we'll be right back, stay with us. ♪ look into the sky for a momentary high, ♪ ♪ you never even tried till it's time to say goodbye, bye ♪ ♪ everybody fights for a little bit of light, i believe. ♪ geico motorcycle, great rates for great rides.

>> so the huge news this hour, this day, this week has been the north korean news, i think, other than the economy itself. big news that the president is actually going to be meeting with this guy about whom there's been so much written, a murderer, if you will, but for all the news here in the united states, there's virtually none in north korea. there's talk about south korea meeting with the north koreans, but nothing at all in north korean media as it is about this historic meeting coming with president trump.

i guess it's not all that surprising. by the way, we have complete coverage of trump's rally in pennsylvania for republican rick saccone at 7 p.m. tonight. and i'll see you on "after the bell" weekdays 4 p.m. on fox business with my good friend melania francis, have a great week. eboni: remembering three great women who lost their lives doing what they love, caring for veterans. we'll go live to yountville, california and the community that was left devastated. leland: president trump praising china for continuing to help, sitting down with the north korean dictator. how the white house is looking at this week. eboni: and florida's new gun law, some calling it an attack on the second amendment. ♪