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most grateful you spent the evening with us. good night from washington. be back with you tomorrow night. >> tucker: this is a fox news alert.t. a draft report by republican members of the house intelligence committee says that there is "no evidence of collusion, coordination, or conspiracy between the trump campaign and the russians." that is the result of 14 months of investigation. good evening. welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." the new report we just referred to found no evidence of collusion. it did warn that america was woefully unprepared to check russian meddling efforts and has done little to improve since then.si it also blasts our top intelligence officials for leaking to the media. the 150-page report will be reviewed by democrats andd intelligence officials before it is released to the public. congressman mike conaway is a republican representing texas, he led the investigation by house republicans into russian meddling, and he joins us in the studio. thank you for coming on.
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>> good to be with you. >> tucker: is the report as definitive as we just suggested on the question of collusion? >> yes, it is. we have interviewed 73 witnesses, looking at 300 plus thousand documents. h to try to find what there might be. we have seen some meetings that were inappropriate or ill-advised to have taken and we have seen some chance coincidences where people bump into each other, but no evidence of collusion between the trump campaign and the russians or the clinton campaign and the russians. >> tucker: are you satisfied that you saw enough intelligence gathered by our intel agencies to make that judgment? >> we made the judgment based on our own investigation of witnesses, we interviewed 73 witnesses looking for the thread that would lead us to collusion, conspiracy, or coordination. we asked every witness that. we found no evidence that e anything like that was going on. >> tucker: adam schiff today, who would be the ranking democrat on the committee,
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released the statement calling the report "a tragic milestone." he says it short-circuits an investigation that he implies is just getting going. >> well, 14 months is not just getting going. like i said, we have done more to answer the four questions, a pretty narrow scope that did not include collusion with a lot of things, and maybe he wants to chase it down, we had fourus questions to answer and we have done the relevant investigation to answer those questions. >> tucker: huh, so you must have learned a lot about the story more broadly. sounds like you did after all that time. you say that the intel agencies released their famous report, the 17 so-called intelligence agencies saying that the putin government favored trump. and you are saying that is not correct? >> well, first off, it is three agencies. >> tucker: oh, i am aware. that is why i said "so-called." including the coast guard and all the rest.es >> john podeesta was trying to pitch that thought. i'm confident that the nro had nothing to do with that. 98% of what they did on the ica.
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we agree with. we have two trained analysts go through that with a fine tooth comb, thousands of pages of documents. and the piece about trump or that the putin reported preference for trump is not supported by the evidence. >> tucker: why would they say that?mpsu >> have to ask them, but we disagree with them that thingg started in early december and was finished in january.m, coinciding with the attack on the trump presidency. other issues, things going on. and this seemed to underpin that narrative that somehow putin had more effect on the election than he should have. delegitimatized the trump presidency. it was part of that narrative. >> tucker: the intel agencies are taken at face value, as we are often reminded by democrats, they are the final word of what is true, sounds like a political statement?
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>> 98% of what they did is the tradecraft, there is trade craft associated with analytics and that was properly followed.e but just on that one piece about putin's alleged preference for trump, that was not supported. >> tucker: i've never been clear on the underlyingen questions that undergird all of this which is the hacking of the dnc servers and of john podesta's gmail account, and i o asked the ranking democrat adam schiff about thisis and could not get a straight answer. are we positive that the russian government was behind stealing that data? >> as positive as you can be under circumstances where attribution is very difficult, but i am comfortable believing that the russian government was behind the hackers that did alle of this. whether the entities were doingh it -- were done on behalf of the russian government if not on behalf of or directly by, so i am comfortable making statement.ov again, attribution is very difficult in the cyber world.. >> tucker: will this convince anyone?
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will msnbc tomorrow say, you know what, we have been wrong? >> throughout this whole time frame, i've been saying privately, because nobody has seen me on tv before tonight that there will be some people that agree and some that disagree, but i want the report to stand on its own so that folks say conaway didn't have his thumb on the scale. schiff didn't have his thumb on the scale. put as much of the underlying documentation in there as we possibly can so that readers can decide for themselves whether we did a thorough investigation and what we based our conclusions on. let the american people make up their own mind. the real issue is that we have elections starting right now. the texas primary last week.th we have an election tomorrow. this is a big deal that we doo not want the russians or anyone interfering with the election process. so getting these conclusions out, beginning to have that conversation with the american o people during this election season for '18 is reallypr important. it will get us to where we are right now. >> tucker: there's a lot that we don't know, but you have confirmed what we have suspected all along whic is that to the collusion narrative was a lie. >> if the democrats haveno additional evidence that they make reference to over and over this drafting process that will
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start in the morning, they will have a chance to see it. >> tucker: we can make up our own minds, thank you for that. mark steyn is an author and columnist and close observer of all things russia-plot related. he joins us tonight so in my hand, i have a document that will end msnbc's primetime schedule which has been predicated on the idea that trump has colluded with the russians.. i almost don't want to tell them because i don't want to wreck their ratings run. what are they going to do when they find out? what is cnn going to do? what is the entire american media going to do with the fact that there was no collusion? >> i think that they will carry on as usual, tucker. for the very good reason, than that they happen to agree with putin on this. putin's object which is a reasonable one for any hostile power to take to other nations h is that he wanted to sow confusion. and he did so for the last 18
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months, the democrats and the media have run around like headless chickens shrieking about some guy who happens to be related to a cabinet secretary and finding himself in a bar in the seychelles and a russian walks into the bar. and it is not illegal to talk to russians in bars or russians in diners or russians in department stores. that is not a crime. if you want to go to the bar and talk to a russian, good luck to you. and what happened is the great slow, elephantine process of american investigations of this nature which is always looking in the rearview mirror. so they are investigating stuff that happens two, three years ago, meanwhile, putin is getting on with stealing the nextr. election because everybody else is looking ahead while we are doing all of this rearview mirror stuff. >> tucker: that is a great question. but the next question would be, what about the people whose lives have been destroyed based
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on the understanding that they were in some way colluding with russia? carter page, ambassador flynn, people who will never work again who had to sell their houses, and in flynn's case were indicted, what happens to them? does someone make them whole? >> i think so, and i think that that is a more serious problem, because i think that there were serious questions about corruption and excessive use of muscle at the federal prosecutorial level. i don't think it is respectful that the federal government wins 97% of the cases that it drags into court. that is saddam hussein, kim jong un levels of prosecutorial success and americans should be ashamed of it. and americans that think it is clever that you can put the screws on mike flynn and persuade him to plead guilty just because he does not want to have what is left of his savings account cleaned out, i think
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that that is disgusting. and rather than obsessing andnk worrying about russia for another two years, i would like us to seriously address what is wrong with federal prosecution, what is wrong with the fbi and the doj, and clean it up! because it ain't respectable. and americans should be ashamed of it. >> tucker: but that's what we are supposed to do in the media, aren't we? looking out for bullies abusing their power and crushing the weak to their own benefit. that is going on, and the cheerleaders of it are the media. >> no, and there is something very weird about actually seeing the left, who used to be all about sticking it to the man, doing this thing as you just quoted, the 17 so-called intelligence committees. i don't know why we need 17 intelligence agencies, but for some reason, it impresses left-wing journalists. if we added another 32 intelligence agencies and we had 49, if we had 49 spook agencies, they would be even
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more impressed. these are the same people, by the way, the one practical thing to come out of this thing is that we need election security in this country. and yet the same people who say that they are scared about russians interfering in the election are the same people who all over the country who are saying that illegal immigrants should have the right to vote. in which case if a venezuelan or a colombian can vote, why the hell can't a russian interfere? we can all get a piece of it. >> tucker: exactly right. they are the ones defeating voter i.d. laws and prefer online voting which can be hacked, and against paper ballots. it is totally disingenuous. those are not there concerns at all. what they worship is power, that's what they seek. mark, thank you. thank you for putting it out as always. i.c.e. is searching for an illegal alien homicide suspect after denver police led them out on the street. once again, the left prioritizing the rights of illegal immigrants over your safety. why are they doing that?
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♪ >> tucker: an illegal immigrant charged with homicide has been released and is out on the streets tonight because politicians in denver have decided that keeping our country's borders open is a higher priority than protecting our citizens. police say that ivan zamarripa-castaneda killed a truck driver in a hit-and-run. federal law enforcement wanted him held in custody. but thanks to the denver sanctuary city policy, authorities refused and they let
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him go. on friday night, paul reyes said that was not going to happen. that progressives in denver were not trying to protect the illegal immigrants at the expense of public safety. watch this. why would you not call and say that this guy is leaving at this hour and be waiting for him? why would they not do that? >> because i.c.e. has said that their issue on a weekly basis between 35 and 40,000 to attain. >> tucker: talking about this guy.n why would they not do it in this specific case? >> the reason that they did not was because, again, i.c.e. did not make him a priority by failing because they did not get the warrants, the -- >> tucker: they do not need a warrant. now you are being disingenuous. they are not doing it because they don't care, that is the truth and you know it. i.c.e. asked for
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i.c.e. asked for notice as to when zamarripa-castaneda was going to be released, but the deputies in denver refuseded after he posted a $25,000 bond, zamarripa-castaneda was released at about 5:30 p.m. on saturday evening. i.c.e. was not notified for more than an hour and by that time he was gone.. he is now on the loose, an immigrant fugitive. so a person is dead and all the democratic party can think of is how to protect the killer from deportation? that is normal on the left. in oakland, california, federal authorities wanted to arrest child molesters and gang members, but the mayor warning them before the feds could show up. a woman called perla morales-luna was caught on camera. probably saw it today. they suggested she was abducted from her family, turns out that she was wanted on human trafficking charges. that may not have made your facebook feed. in baltimore, one of the poorest cities in the country, officials cut city funding for streetlights and trash cans to plug a hole in the budgets, but they found hundreds of thousands
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of dollars to pay lawyers to represent illegal aliens fighting federal law. in all cases, the message could not be clearer, democrats are on the side of illegal immigrants, they are not even pretending anymore. jorge ramos, the anchor who just wrote a book, called "stranger." the challenge of the latino immigrant, joining us now. >> great to be here, >> tucker: thank you so much, congratulations on the book.on partly about what american policies are to be, we are talking about what it should be in the show. i want to ask you about a tweet you sent out to that i was amazed by, in spanish, but here's what it said. "i got my voter credential to vote for the united states in the election in mexico on july 1st. now i have to register and wait for my ballot by mail, and expensive and complicated process, but you have to do it." i thought you were an american? >> i am mexican, and i am american, that is completely legal. i wish that i could give you an
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explanation on my identity, that's exactly what i am. i was born in mexico and became a u.s. citizen. i have the chance to do that. i feel very proud of being from mexico and the united states. >> tucker: wait, there's nothing wrong with being from mexico, i agree with that completely. what is wrong is that you took the following oath, this was a pledge and you said you swore absolutely to renounce all allegiance to any foreign state you have ever been a citizen of. you took that oath. but you are voting in a foreign election?oo why are you doing that? >> i am voting in mexico and here in the united states. and there's absolutely nothing wrong. some countries allow that. and that's exactly why you have a u.s. passport. i am not the only one and i think that i can participate fully in the u.s. and i can do exactly the same thing in mexico. the relationship is perfectly
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legal. >> tucker: i think a lot of the viewers may not to know that you can vote in a foreign>>hi election, because you have to show i.d. -- >> now they know. it's perfectly legal. it's happening in mexico and in europe. last time i checked, mexico is notco invading the u.s. and we e not at war. >> tucker: you are not invading the united states, and yet, mexican citizens live in this country, vote in mexican elections and then write books telling americans like me how we should run our government when you clearly have not renounced your loyalty to a foreign government. why should i take you seriously? >> i happen to be a u.s. citizen.ho and sometimes and that is the title of the book i do feel like a stranger. because it seems, as you pointed out, that for many americans i am not american enough. >> tucker: you are voting in a foreign election. hold on, hold on. it is not about mexico, it could be any country. why should i take you seriously as an american if you are still
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tied to a country despite the oath you took, apparently disingenuously to renounce your ties to the country? you are weighing in on a foreign election. in what sense are you fully american? >> just because of my arguments and just because i am a u.s. citizen, as you are. >> tucker: i am not voting in foreign elections. >> so i cannot complain about donald trump in the most anti-immigrant p mexican. >> tucker: of course, you can complain all you want. >> simply because i came here and i am -- >> tucker: i am asking why i should take you seriously. let's ask about the story we just played. here you have someone who has been charged by authorities with homicide and fleeing the scene of a homicide. and federal authorities say that this guy is in the country illegally, nobody disputes that and the city of denver decides to let him go on a very small bond, why wouldn't they calledt
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the federal government from -- preventing the federal government from enforcing federal law? >> the way that you present this story, i don't know why you would want to be state media, tucker, because you are criminalizing all immigrants. >> tucker: i'm not criminalizing anybody. >>ct you are repeating what donald trump is doing. >> tucker: spare me your viewpoint. i'm asking you a question.gu >> okay, this is the argument. the argument is that the vast majority of immigrants, you have heard this argument. the vast majority are not criminals. >> tucker: i agree with that. >> and they are less likely to be criminals and behind bars. >> tucker: the second point is not true. look, i agree, most immigrants are great people. i am not disputing that. i'm not trying to criminalize anybody. i'm just noting that this guy has been charged in our country with homicide and to the authorities in denver for
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political reasons under pressure from people like you have decided that they are not going to turn him overou to the feds and now he walks free. why should i be happy about that? >> i wish that i could have that information. the argument is about to sanctuary cities, that's what you do not want? >> tucker: i'm saying in this specific case. no, no, no. i am nott generalizing. >> nobody else wants to defend this. >> tucker: but this guy, why this guy? he is charged with homicide, people do not care about the arguments about trump being mean to immigrants, they do not want a guy charged with homicide here illegally walking the street. >> to criminalize immigrants because of one person. >> tucker: you are part of the white population.
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knock that stuff off. >> you criticize the whole population or group simply because of one person. >> tucker: okay, of course i agree with that. you should never attack people on the basis of things because of other people. i'm not talking about all people. i'm talking about this person who is protected by policies that you support and havee advocated for and the rest of us are suffering because of that. so why don't you tell me why it's a good idea to let this guy out of jail, mr. neck tattoo charged with homicide and why should we be happy about that? they could have turned them over and they did not because of pressure from you? >> i'm not here defending anyth criminals. but i think santuary cities is a good idea. i think that somebody has to defend immigrants. >> tucker: who is going to defend the rest of us? >> let me give you another argument, listening to what hasg happened in los angeles and the los angeles police chief said the following, that the reports of sexual assault and
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domestic violence in the city of latinos has declined, why? because of fear. and then he said the following which i think it's very powerful. d he said imagine a young woman, imagine your daughter, your sister, your mother, not reporting a sexual assault because they are afraid that their family will be torn apart. >> tucker: he doesn't know that. that is not a real statistic. because it is purely -- that is purely speculative. he's a political hack. he cannot know that. that is not social science. sorry, pal. >> there were reports of domestic violence decreased within the city, latino population, so this is happening. this is real. >> tucker: i need to look at my statistics class in college, you should have come, that is not a real one. jorge, thank you for joining us, i hope that you come back. congratulations on the book. the left is declaring public figures to be non-persons over
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the slightest verbal infraction. it's happening in government and happening in the private sector and on campus. some on the left has nothing to say about louis farrakhan, let's that story is coming up. i got it. and sometimes those experts need experts. on it. [ crash ] and sometimes the expert the expert needed needs insurance expertise. it's all good. steve, you're covered for general liability. and, paul, we got your back with workers' comp. wow, it's like a party in here. where are the hors d'oeuvres, right? [ clanking ] tartlets? we cover commercial vehicles, too. i think there's something wrong with your sink.
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>> tucker: the message is out, everybody on the left has heard it, where they get their talking points, defending the nation of islam's louis farrakhan at all
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he railed against jewish people at an event, so they created an apartheid tamika mallory is not denouncing him, but the atlantic magazine has published a piece defending him, citing the nation of islam's role in poor communities. marjorie clifton, great to see you. >> good to see you, how are you? >> tucker: i know that you were a feminist, i had no idea that louis farrakhan was sympathetic to feminism. i went to the million man march in '95. i think that there are worse people in america than louis farrakhan, but he is a hater and certainly not a feminist. and he is an open bigot, so why would the women's march which is about women and progressive values be tied to them? >> it actually was not. they came out in a public statement and denounced his statements, they were anti-semitic. what is interesting about the women's march is it is a movement that is embracing a lot of different kinds of women. i you have women coming from the
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african-american community, the jewish community, the white community, the muslim community. one of these amazing things i am seeing in the movement is a willingness to acknowledge that sometimes we step in it because we are in some ways not aware of how even just participation in events like we saw with tamika mallory who attended an event where he was speaking defended others. what is great is that she has come forward and apologized to those around her for the ways that she created and she is a very publicly come out and said, of course i do not defend those statements. and of course i denounce -- >> tucker: if i can just, ien have never seen a gloss like that. i am blinded by the sheen of the gloss, that you put on that. she did not say that. she continued to defend him, initially refused and the noise got so loud from the right to that she could not ignore it, she defended him. she said i am not disavowing him. are you suggesting she didn't know if his views? she doesn't have google or wikipedia where she is?
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>> she didn't realize one thing he said, and as you said in the last segment, one person and an entire movement should not be discredited for the actions of someone associated in any removed way. that's what we are talking abou about. >> tucker: wait a second. hold on. i can't let you go on that. i just want to be clear i think there are worse people than louis farrakhan. i think he ispe repugnant. but i think they probably do some decent things in neighborhoods. i try not to paint in stark contrast, but by the standard you are espousing and the tamika mallory is espousing or if you have ever met anybody with whom the atlantic magazine disagrees or said anything that does not confirm to a current sensibility, you're out, you are fired from your job. there is no redemption or apology that will ever cleanse your sins. those are the standards that you are pushing, so why do you not apply those standards to yourself? >> i'm not. i am actually espousing that in any movement and true of any administration or anyone else. there should be the opportunity
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to repair where something has been done wrong. that is true in how the me too movement and all of these others is that you cannot be guilty as accused on one shot, it does not mean that everybody is perfect. it does not mean we cannot step in it and correct and repair. that's what she is doing, by the way. this movement is acknowledging we're coming from this at a lot of different angles. >> tucker: i get what you're saying is that there are probably good people on both sides of this, is that we were saying? the charlottesville line? >> no, tucker, that is different. >> tucker: it is not your side, so it is totally different. they're good people on both sides, that is kind of what you're saying, do you agree? >> what i am saying is this is a movement that is very different. it is not a single platform. it is encompassing all about inclusion. that means anybody with disabilities. >> tucker: i get it. these are not random people.re these are leaders of the
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movement, including linda sarsour. what about louis farrakhan do they find appealing? >> they didn't. they don't have him representing it. what they denounced was his statement. >> tucker: what do they like? everybody over the age of three who can read english knows his views because they are the most famous thing about him. they are openly racist. why would she go to one of his events? was she the only person who didn't know? i am honestly confused. >> he was very involved in the civil rights movement. >> tucker: i don't remember that. he was calling for alliance with the kkk. >> he was an organizer of the million man march you participated in. let me offer another way of looking at it, okay. i'm not an african-american woman. it is interesting because i have talked to others in the african-american community that said when o.j. was basically on trial, it was a very hard thing
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to get to their heads around that he could, in a sense, not betray the movement but do something wrong, because he was an idol in that community. i think there are people h that do good things, but they also can do bad things. >> tucker: you know what? then i agree with you. let me stop right now and just say, i totally agree, and we are all flawed, and people do bad things and bad people do good things, so i hope that you will add your voice to the tiny course of people reminding otheo people of that to the next time that some to get fired from his job because he had lunch with someone he does not agree with. >> i absolutely agree.hi if i had one mission in life, it would be get people together to talk about it and repair, restore cultures of organizations when bad things happen. for example, the entire catholic faith is not discredited by the fact that there were priests who are pedophiles. billy graham was not a bad person because he assisted with nixon at one point in time.
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but doesn't discredit his life's work. >> tucker: i find a reasonable liberal tonight. thank you, i agree with all of that. thanks. republicans control the house and the senate and they push to -- they control the white house. why are they still sendingen billions of taxpayer dollars to planned parenthood? and democratic organization whose leader spoke at the 2016 democratic convention. we will talk to a republican member of congress next. roadside assistanceerty mr helped him to fix his flat so he could get home safely. my dad says our insurance doesn't have that. don't worry - i know what a lug wrench is, dad. is this a lug wrench? maybe? you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance.
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he is okay he's all right. personally i like rick saccone, i think he is handsome. >> tucker: that was president trump at pittsburgh. tomorrow night is a special election in the 18 congressional district in pennsylvania. the president won by 20 points in the presidential election. recent polls show a tough situation for republicans. many have the democratic candidate conor lamb in the lead. we may have results tomorrow night. we will tell you first. if the republican base is having trouble turning out to the base for the special election this year, failure to avail its promises might be that. congressional republicans have repeatedly promised to defund planned parenthood, that has not happened or come close to happening.ne the biggest abortion provider gets more than 500 million p taxpayer dollars every year. would democrats be okay if the nra got half a billion dollars a year? would they let that stand?
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congresswoman diane black is a republican representingg tennessee. she is opposed to this a completely and she joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. >> thank you for having me on. >> tucker: you have said many times on the record and you seem like one of the more sincere republican members on this question that you are opposed to giving half a billion dollars to planned parenthood which is basically an adjunct to the democratic party, why have they not defunded it? >> that goes over to the senate, twice now with my leadership we have passed in 2015 and in 2017e the measure in the house sent it over to the senate and they have not done the work. i will challenge anybody that is watching the show that is pro-life to call your senator and ask them where theyo stand on this issue, because we have done our work in the house, they need to do their work in the senate. >> tucker: yeah, i do not think that you need to be pro-life to oppose abortion, but he would
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say that planned parenthood is part of the democratic party, cecile richards speaking at the 2016 democratic convention. they are getting a half a billion dollars of tax money involuntarily from the rest of us to campaign for democratic candidates. how is that even constitutional? >> they should not even be using the money for that, but they do raise additional dollars for thn community. that is fine if they want to spend their money that way. but we do not need to have taxpayer dollars going to abortion. period. the end of that. look at the title $10. they were set up for family planning. abortion is not family-planning. it is family destruction. and so we should not be giving them a single penny if they are providing abortions. >> tucker: and it is a self reinforcing loop. they lobby to keep their funding in place, so they keep getting funding. it is infuriating. if that's the way we are going to do it, if you're going to figureha out a way to get
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taxpayers to pay for one of your biggest political supporters to campaignai for you, why aren't republicans saying the nra which trainss everybody, why don't thy get half a billion dollars a year in federal money to do the good work they do? >> could you imagine that? the uproar by the left if we were to do that? this is ludicrous, and my bill says, if planned parenthood really wants to provide the services that they say theyes provide and that is family-planning without abortion, then do so.he separate abortion from your regular family planning. and then you could get those dollars. but i simply say takeke them awy until they can show that not a single dollar in their clinics are being used for abortion. neither are they giving money to those organizations that provide abortions. >> tucker: yeah, that's a key democratic plank. that is an invaluable democratic plank that abortion equals happiness.ap that is not true. >> i want to give the president a shout out on this, because
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through the congressional review act to be able to overturn an obama rule that said that we in tennessee, which as i was able too do, to make sure none f our dollars were going to planned parenthood or abortion clinics. we were able to do that in our states. there were 11 states doing this. obama took that right away, and i just want to say thank you, thank you, thank you to the president. to give us that right back in tennessee. >> tucker: i support that, let's cut off the half a billion dollars from the rest of us, congressman, thank you. >> thank you for having me on, tucker. >> tucker: pilots and defense officials, think that there is actual real evidence that cannot be ignored that ufos are real. for real. why doesn't the government seem interested in this? former pentagon ufo investigator joins us next. sfx: muffled whistle text alert.
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♪ >> tucker: ufos have captivated the public interest for decades, but always dismissed, including by me, asas the province of wackos. but that is changing things to some remarkable videotape and first-hand accounts from very sober people who are trained to identify aircraft. that would include this video. it shows two navy pilots t encountering something bizarre off the east coast of the united states. watch this.. >> [laughs] >> roger, they are shooting. >> [bleep] is this thing? >> i took it. >> oh, my gosh, man. >> tucker: these are guys that fly for a living that know what other airplanes look like including those maintained by
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foreign governments. this is one among many incidents like it, including many that have happened in the middle of the day to sober people. lots of independent witnesses at the same event.ed commercial pilots, military pilots, o'hare in the afternoon none of them have obvious explanations. these are aircraft apparently that are moving in ways that appear to violate physics and from any other aircraft ever observed and way faster than any plane that we know any foreign country has. what is this?nd we don't know because for some reason they defense department is not interested in findingen out. lou elizondo, a former official researching ufos, the dod is not taking this seriously. he joins us tonight. good to see you. did i overstate that? is there growing evidence, not drunk people on a road
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at 3:00 in the morning, but sober military pilot saying that there is something that we cannot explain? >> that is correct, individuals that have high security clearances, trained observers, we have paid them and put them through schools to be trained. scrutinizing what they are seeing. these are individuals who we trust to fly weapons platform, sometimes with live ammunition over u.s. cities and to fight and win wars on our behalf.n they are reporting that they are seeing something that they can't explain. it's also being backed up by the video evidence and radar data and other witnesses. >> tucker: these must just be weather balloons, right? >> weather balloons expressing technologies that are far beyond our current understanding of aerodynamics. things that are maneuvering in ways that no aircraft that we are currently aware of has that capability. flight performance characteristics well beyond the threshold of what we would considerer i think normal or routine for aircraft. >> tucker: they have no flight surfaces, no wings or anything
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approaching a wing and no obvious propulsion. infrared doesn't pick up any jet trail or rocket exhaust coming out of these things? >> or a plume. there are many ways to have propulsion. you can do it with a jet engine, propeller, or rocket engine. in this particular case you have objects that are doing things, maneuvering in ways without any obvious sign of propulsion. and defying the natural effects of earth's gravitational -- >> tucker: at what speed? >> some are very, very fast. >> tucker: faster than our aircraft? >> absolutely, hypersonic speeds and without any signs or>> signatures involved, when it is moving through the atmosphere, you would expect it to have certain signatures associated with that particular aircraft whether it's a missile, drone, rocket, you might see a heat signature coming from it. you might hear a sonic boom.r which you normally would, an acoustic signature. in this particular case, they do not have any of those. >> tucker: we know that they
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are not u.s. military, because they would not be flying near u.s. military aircraft as they so often have. and it seems like we would know if foreign countries have this knowledge. i've no idea what it is. the bottom line is, this is a potential threat, a grave one to our country.d what is dod doing about it? >> i cannot speak on the half of the dod right now, but i can speak to what they were doing about it and what they were not doing about it when i was part c of the program. i think dod is a very large complex organization. i think that it is very good at what it normally does. but in this particular case, we had a very ill-defined problem set. when you are going to the boss and you say, look, boss, we have something here. we don't know what it is. we sure k don't know how it wors and by the way, there is nothing we can do about it, that's a very difficult conversation to have an organization whose sole mission is national security. >> tucker: i think it's
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terrifying. this seems potentially like one of the biggest stories of my lifetime. and i do not care if it is about ufos or whatever you call it something that we do not understand is getting very close to our military aircraft and the government is not responding. and i hope you keep sounding the alarm on this.yy >> if i may, just very quickly. >> tucker: ten seconds.m >> you go and see a sign, say something. these pilots were seeing something and is backed up, it's nothing. >> tucker: that is terrifying. that is the essence of dysfunction. i hope that you will come back. more on tonight's breaking russia reportt next.
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how much money aleia saved by switching to geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. >> tucker: this is a fox news alert. republicans on the house intelligence committee finally after 14 months ended their investigation into russian election meddling. the draft report out tonightin says there is no evidence at all of collusion between russia and the campaign ofof donald trump. the report blasts the obama administration for "lackluster pre-election efforts to thwart russian meddling" and claims the research for the trump sources was funneled to hillary clinton's campaign. the report says vladimir putin may not have favored trump because he didn't think he was going to win. we'll follow all developments of the new report. all of which seems to confirm what we have been saying every day for over a year. not to brag!g! that's about it for us tonight.
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tune in at every night at 8:00 for a show that hates lying and smugness. good night from washington. sean hannity is right now. >> sean: thank you, tucker. great show. welcome to "hannity."ig we have major breaking news. no evidence, none, of trump-russia collusion. that is the major finding from the house intelligence committee. that is with the republican ending this phase of the russia investigation. this now confirms everything we have been telling you. yet, the media, the democrats, have been flat-out lying foree over a year. and they have created a russia collusion conspiracy theory all in an effort to delegitimize and smear t president trump. republicans on the intel committee are also finding that president obama did nothing to counter russian election interference and hete was warned for years and vladimir putin did not have a preference for then candidate trump. also tonight, and this is a massive development, sara

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