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>> laura: welcome back. we continue to monitor the special election in pennsylvania's 18th district. there could be an automatic recount kicking in if the margin is at .5 percentage. we will be checking that and bring you the up to date vote counts as we get them. but, first, trump gets his team and the media goes berserk. that's the focus of

tonight's angle. now, if you have been following american politics over the last nine months or so and you have a decently functioning human brain, you should not have been surprised to wake up to the news that rex tillerson is out at the state department. >> rex and i have been talking about this for a long time. we got a long actually quite well. but we disagreed on things. when you look at the iran deal, i think it's terrible. i guess he thought it was okay. i wanted to either break it or do something and he felt a little bit differently. so we were not really thinking the same. >> laura: tillerson, who was told he was being let go on friday by general kelly, spoke briefly to reporters today. and he didn't look well. he was visibly emotional. >> i want to speak now to my state department colleagues and to our interagency colleagues and partners at dod and the joint chief of

staffs most particularly. to my foreign service officers and civil service colleagues, we all took the same oath of office whether you are career employee or political appointee, we are all bound by that common commitment. >> laura: that was nice. well, back in november, i asked the president about the secretary of state's job security. >> i want my -- my vision is my vision anyway. it's called cost-saving. there is nothing wrong with cost-saving. rex is in there working hard. he is doing his best. >> laura: is he going to be with you for the duration? >> we'll see. i don't know who is going to be. >> laura: well, not exactly a ringing endorsement of the duration. well, the of course, the lemmings in the press spent the entire day painting the tillerson firing as evidence of more white house dysfunction. >> this almost feels like a vacation from the reality tv style turmoil that is turning back in washington. the president may be wondering why he didn't come

to california sooner. this is his first trip out here because of everything that he has left behind. >> what does chaos mean in our foreign policy? it means many of our allies who i have worked for over the years, they don't know what to expect next from the united states. that creates a vacuum in the world that russia is moving into very quickly and china is moving in to in asia. >> laura: oh, yeah. trump caused the rise of china and the russia aggression in crimea. oh my goodness. chaos. you mean what we saw for the eight years of the obama administration when barack obama didn't fire anyone over benghazi, the irs targeting of conservatives, or the fast and furious scandal? or was it the chaos we saw when obama pushed out qaddafi and mubarak sparking the rise of isis in iraq and in syria? now, what about the chaos of doubling our debt and exploding the trade deficit. is china,. >> , grew bolder and more

powerful, did any of that count as chaos? well, trump, by contrast, has been very clear that we want to have better relationships with more nations, if possible. and we're not going to be anyone's pushover. look, the fact is tillerson should have tendered his resignation a long time ago. he disagreed with the president on major issues. he was opposed to the talks with the north korea. he supported the paris climate accords. he questioned the president's charlesville response. he was at odds at moving the u.s. embassy to jerusalem and was a fan of the iran nuclear deal. the president, of course, walls not a fan. other than that, the two were perfectly i insync. >> can you address the main headline of this story did you call the president a moron and where do you think the reports. >> i'm not going to deal with petty stuff like that. this is what i don't understand about washington.

again, i'm not from this place but the places i come from, we don't deal with that kind of petty nonsense. >> laura: the place i come from as if you call your boss a moron, you probably should be in that position. the only question i have is why did it take the president so long to fire tillerson? sure, he is a nice guy but come on. cia director mike pompeo by all accounts is a far better fit to be trump's secretary of state. as the president said, kind of about chemistry and approach. tillerson didn't gel in either category. >> i have gotten to know a lot of people very well over the last year, and i'm really at a point where we are getting very close to having the cabinet and other things that i want. >> laura: and since last summer, the president has been slowly getting his team together. think about it he hired general john kelly his chief of staff. he moved sarah sanders in as press secretary. he moved tom price out and

alex azar in as secretary of hhs and i'm sure there is going to be a lot more changes to come. that's not chaos. that's called smart staffing. he has been in the white house just over, what, 13 months or so? and now trump knows what he needs in his closest staff and the cabinet, too. and he might not do everything the button down traditional way, well, that's for sure. but he is hitting his stride and he is getting a really strong team in place. think about it this way, when a player isn't performing on the field or on the court, a good coach benches him. and when that same player is a consistent drag on the team, well, a good coach is going to trade him or just let him go entirely. and that's precisely what trump did. and he should do the same with anyone else who seems pained to support his agenda. once he makes his decision final. and that's the angle. for reaction i talked to republican senator bob

corker of tennessee just a short time ago. senator corker, good to see you. thanks for first time on the ingraham angle. >> a little late. >> laura: i know we kept you up. big news day, did this really surprise you, rex tillerson out by the president? did you ever think he was a great fit? >> i thought he was really good at giving sound advice. i have known for some time -- i talk to both of them often. i know it hasn't been a perfect fit. was i surprised? not really. but, i will say since december 1st, right around that time, you felt a reprieve. you felt like that they were working better together. >> laura: the story today was this is chaos. people are freaking out in the media. just more chaos. and it turns out that the president is apparently considering also firing the v.a. secretary after the story broke that he was on some sightseeing trip i guess in europe on official business. shulkin might be out

replaced by rick perry. thoughts on that? >> i think rick will be good at anything he does. he has been a good governor, obviously. look, this is as i was telling you earlier, the reporters in the hallway have almost become this is just sort of normal and changes are occurring. and, you know, the president needs someone as secretary of state that he has a lot of faith in. and, again, i thought rex did a very good job. he has a great relationship with mattis, which is very unusual. and the two of them always go in on the same page. and i don't know pompeo very well. but i do hear very good things about him and look forward. he's going to be in the office later this week. i look forward to a good confirmation. >> laura: the thought is the internationalists, the interventionists in the republican party are kind of on the down slide and the more nationalists populist wing is on the ascendancy because, of course, pompeo is more in line with trump. tillerson is more, i think more in line with your thinking and what are your thoughts on that? is it better to have that

tension where the internationalists are kind of vying for the president's ear? >> i would use the world realist. >> laura: okay, fine. you will use your terminology i will use mine. >> the president's speech which we clawed. i was one of the first to laud one of his foreign policy speech had the makings of a jim baker realist world. i don't necessarily look at him as a nationalist. i mean, he is in afghanistan doing what he is doing and committed to not something that is divine by time and so he is a mix. he is more of a realist. i do think it's good to have countering voices. >> laura: and the president does as well. >> he actually likes hearing the debate. he talked about that a great deal in the gary cohn when he left. so, look, i think that as long as whoever is working with him, regardless of what their point of view is, is giving him the full collage of opportunities to think about things, then i think

that's fine. >> laura: tillerson couldn't answer the question did he call him a moron. that's not going to work well. remember, barack obama fired only a few people. mcchrystal, fired mattis. remember when he fired mattis he didn't each tell him. mattis learned about it, i guess second hand or third hand. people switch up positions when the chemistry isn't right. >> the president called this morning on his way out west about 10:00 from air force one. every one of these people serve at his pleasure. it's his decision. >> new cia chief would be gina haspel who will be with the cia 30 years. first woman to ever head that agency. she is not going without criticism today. this is a former fbi special agent alli who was on msnbc earlier today. let's watch. >> there is the issue of torture. also there is the issue of destruction of videotapes. evidence of torture. that happened in violation of a federal judge's order.

so now this is another thing that need to come out during the confirmation hearing. we need to know what she thinks about these issues. >> laura: the left is gearing up to go after gina haspel who is undercover for most of her career is being lauded even by some former obama administration officials i think clapper today. what of that? >> i think we are going to see with these changes, maybe three of them, you mentioned one i was unaware of earlier probably likely to see a pretty partisan environment over the next couple months. >> laura: we have an article today out about how the new omnibus spending bill might not defund sanctuary cities. i saw that today and i thought wait a second, now we have got the house and senate in republican hands. we got a republican president. republicans at election time are really big on defunding things. we are going to do this and take the money from planned parenthood and defund sanctuary cities. now it looks like they might not do that meaning you guys

not do that what planet am i living on. what is your view on the sanctuary city issue? the president is out in california today. >> i think we should follow through on defunding them. this is decision made by mcconnell, ryan, schumer and pelosi, okay? they are the ones that are the final deciders. i have no idea what's in the omni. >> laura: that's a problem, too. no one knows what's in it apparently. >> the house may vote on it this friday. we are supposed to take it up next week. regardinregardless of the defung which i hope occurs it's god awful amount of money. we are spending $2 trillion more over the next decade if we go through with this process, which we are. so, i think the american people ought to be alarmed by the massive amount of spending that's in this bill and we ought to defund sanctuary cities. >> laura: you were close for not voting for that tax bill. >> i was. >> laura: because it wasn't what a lot of us wanted in a tax bill but nevertheless it does seem like the economy and a lot of spending. any regrets there.

>> look, i have been a deficit hawk my entire time. i just alouded to that now. i have also been a pro-growth tax person. so you end up in this place, you know, nothing is perfect here. it was about half a trillion dollars off on a 43 trillion-dollar base, something i didn't want to see happen. buff at the end of the day, i'm glad the economy is growing and i'm glad that businesses are hiring people and wages are going up. >> laura: mueller investigation, where do you think this is going to end up? people say trump is not tough on russia like he should be. i like at obama. russia rolled into crimia, they were doing the reset, that didn't work. >> right. >> laura: didn't seem like russia was deterred at all during the obama administration. a lot of -- >> -- we tried to get lethal defensive weapons in the ukraine. we couldn't do it. we passed a bill to make that happen. enough to the trump administration is sending those lethal weapon items in. so, look, i don't know anything about what's happening with the mueller

investigation and i heard president trump speak up today about the killing of the spy in u.k. so i think the rhetoric from him is getting stronger. certainly correct me if i am wrong on both sides of the aisle has been pushing back and, look, russia is a problem and they are going to be a problem likely in our election. >> laura: who is a bigger problem china or russia, the size of the military. >> has the size of italy. there ♪ much there but they have nuclear armaments. immediately the issue is more acute with russia because they try to stop all that we are doing. they try to interfere. they even are interfering with north korea, longer term, no question. china is going to bypass us in all likelihood economically. and they. >> laura: is that a forgone conclusion? china is going to bypass us economically? i'm not buyin buying into that i don't want them to bypass them economically. >> if you look at the numbers and the likelihood is that is what is going to look at 320 million people. you look at them having a

billion 2 or 3 just the economics and the numbers. >> laura: do you think trump is doing the right thing on the tariffs then and standing up to china and saying you are dumping in our country. >> i wish he would focus more on china. trying to know cut on allies against china, i don't like the way we are doing going about it trading off nato dues. snrnks. >> how do we get leverage against the eu when we have a 120 deficit. south korea trade deficit going up. we now have leverage with them. isn't that a way to get results for the american people? >> if you are focused on trade deficit. you wouldn't focus on steel with them. you would focus on steel with china which is producing 49% of the world's steel. so, i don't like the way that we have gone about it i don't. i've said that and i think we should be far more focused on china as you

mentioned. and over time, they are the entity that's stealing our intellectual property. they have got a program. i mean, we have got a president for life there. >> laura: how is that going to work out for freedom. >> look, they're going to be the longer term challenge for us and one that is much bigger. being who you are, history says when one power potentially surpasses another academically that's going to be conflict. most difficult one for us to imagine. >> laura: why do you think the president's approval rating is higher than congress' today? >> look, i don't smile so favorably on congress either. i like the ones i work with. most of them are smart and very hard working. but, that's just the way it's always been. it's always been. kind of like>> tech: at safelits

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>> laura: we will bring you the latest in just moments from pennsylvania. first, president trump famously did not visit california in his first year as president. with the sanctuary policies and its hostile far left leaders, who could blame them? well, mr. trump finally had a valid reason to go to the golden state today where he took a look at the prototypes of his border wall in san diego. and he explained why the wall is essential. >> if you take a look at the fence and it's a very powerful fence, not doing the trick, because they cut holes in it. and then they are patching holes all the time. i'm just looking. have you hundreds of holes cut in and patched. so the fence is not strong enough. it's not the right idea. but, for those people, if

you don't have a wall system, we're not going to have a country. >> laura: is he back on the construction site today. i loved it joining us now for reaction is the ceo who submitted one of those prototypes, fisher sand and gravel ceo tommy fisher joins us from phoenix. okay, fisher sand and gravel. you guys have been in business for, i don't know, since 1952. it's a family run company. and what was it like to have the president check out the prototype today? >> it was a great honor for myself and all the employees and hopefully my dad looking down from heaven to see where we have come to. to have that opportunity to demonstrate to the president and all the people of america what we are capable of building, it was just a great honor. and i would also like to thank your commitment and determination to keep border security front and center with all your viewers as well, laura. >> laura: absolutely. i want to play a sound bite. this is the president, you know, he was looking at all the different prips. he made like a running

commentary throughout. this is a part of it let's watch. >> we are looking very much at the wall with some see through capability on the other side and solid concrete on top or steel and concrete on top. the round piece that you see up here or see more clearly back there, the larger it is, the better it is because it's very hard to get over the top. it's really deterrent from getting over the top. who would think? who would think? busbut getting over the top is easy. these are like professional mountain climbers. they are incredible climbers. they can't climb some of these walls. some of them they can. those are the walls we are not using. >> laura: all right, tommy, which wall was he talking about. we were watching sound bite after sound bite today of individuals who are against this wall who are saying i can't get over. this i have gotten over other structures before. there is no wall they can make tall enough for me not to get over because i'm determined to get back in the united states where can i make some money or see my family.

so, what makes your wall impenetrable for the people who really want to climb it. >> well, first of all, laura, our wall is solid concrete, if you are see through, you are basically a fence or cut like president trump was talking about earlier with the steel. and steel has its purpose out on the border. but basically encased in our concrete. the biggest difference is we took vision very serious when we put our proposal together. that's why our wall is strong enough to be backfilled they have 360-degree panoramic top view down so they have the advantage. hopefully the president will get to see that with some of the other pictures. the dinners is we can build through the mountains as well. we have a product that lasts 150 years. it broke my heart today to see the president talk about fixing a wall that's been out there that's a remnant wall or something and some of that wall has only been out there, the fence i want to say, the steel fence 10 years up to 20-some years and they're replacing. our year has 150 year life span. the big difference with ours

is, we are building access roads for the agents. so you are not even getting close to our wall. our wall has a road in front, a road behind. it has such a superior advantage. that's why we were able to secure the bond gave anymore inian for 10.77 billion. like i talked to you on root show to build 700 miles. i also placed 274-million-dollar band with land that i just purchased in california to build the first 15 miles in the most rugged mountainous terrain to prove to the president as well as every american, if you tonight have a complete border protection system, you do not have security. and like you said earlier, i take with great respect the president will, if he allows us to play our team fisher industries to play, i guarantee you no different than tom brady, once we get in we never come out. if we don't perform, the president can fire us. that's how comfortable and confident i am is when we really offer.

>> laura: i love it. not taking sides which prototypes is best this is why you are a good businessman. how many jobs are we talking and really quick what types of jobs are these good paying jobs? only american products and only americans workers, right. >> all-american with all-american grit. we probably if we did the big project, the 700 miles you are talking thousands of jobs with us and our partners. the smaller job, probably 1,000 jobs. but here's the big differences. our product and our patent pending system does not need cranes. when we go into the mountains, laura in 30 minutes you could be running one of our escalators and pull back wall forms you would see 30 feet of perfect wall built. >> laura: tommy fisher. fisher sand and gravel. fabulous with the president out there on the project. i have a question, should president trump send federal troops to sanctuary cities? that seems wild, right? well, we are going to debate it directly

>> laura: president trump in california today had harsh words for the state sanctuary policies and he singled out oakland mayor libby schaaf for tipping off hundreds of illegal immigrants of an impending ice operation last month. >> sanctuary cities are protecting a horrible group of people in many cases. criminals and what happened as an example in oakland was a disgrace to our nation. and we just can't let that

happen. >> laura: president trump had said he would like to strip federal funding from sanctuary cities but some scholars have raised the question of whether he could do something far more aggressive as in sending in federal troops under something called the insurrection act. but should he and can he letting bring in john cox a republican candidate for governor in california. he is in l.a. tonight and in san francisco joe, a former california criminal justice commissioner. great to see both of you. all right, joe. let's start with you on this called the insurrection act. this is kind of out there in a way the supremacy clause doesn't mean that the states can completely override federal authority. and, again, it's a theory. but given what jeff sessions said last week in his speech in california, it looks like, you know, it's a remote at least possibility.

>> this is not a possibility. this is political theater that is being used to frame the debate. it's essentially a big lie. we have seen this before trump administration build a wall. mexico is going to pay for it send in the troops. deport violent criminals. drain the swamp. none of this is actually happening when you look at the facts here. the statements they just prey on, they prey on his base because they know that there is nothing being done in washington on these very important issues. >> laura: joe, when you say the president hasn't done that, i mean, yes, they have. i mean, the president has ensured that we have deported hundreds upon hundreds of the most vile child molesters, rapists, people who are domestic batterers who are illegally in this country and who are criminals. when you say he has not done that. that's just false, my friend. i'm sorry, but you can't come on this show and say they haven't done that, they have done that and that's

good. >> no, no. look. we want to deport violent criminals. nobody is against that. >> laura: oh really. >> only people going to be deported. we are findings that the facts on the street are actually not that. less than hall of the people that are actually violent criminals. the rest of them, many of them. >> laura: whose fault is that. >> people that have been here for decades in the united states u. >> laura: whose fault is that. >> it's ice's fault federal immigration fault. >> laura: whose fault is it that ice has to rush into neighborhoods because a state official or local official has warned the population that ice is coming instead of help us find these people so we can get them in target way and get them out of the country? go ahead. >> this is really rich. can i get a response in here? yes, this is really rich in irony here, laura that he is

accusing mr. trump of political theater. when it's the democrats are engaged in the political theater though cover up their mismanagement of this state. these are violent criminalser that going after in oakland. they were suspected gang members. this is the safety and security of the people of california and jerry brown and gavin newsom are political demagogues who are using this issue to scare people, to create a war with washington that shouldn't exist yes, the president is fully justified in using the military if he has to president eisenhower did that after brown vs. board of education in the 50's. i want to know how jerry brown and gavin newsom getting off being george wallace and standing up and saying they are not going to allow federal law to take precedence. this is totally against the law. they are doing it to cover up their incredible mismanagement of the state of california.

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>> laura: before we go, look at the board. it does not get closer than this. about 95 votes separating the candidates in that special election. a blue wave? i think that was overstated.

it may not be called the night but we will have continuing coverage on fox. ed henry is all over the story, he is in for shannon bream. the democrats giving up a lot of predictions in this massive wave, and i'm not sure that has happened. >> ed: that's right, we're going to have a big show. welcome to "fox news @ night," i'm ed henry in for shannon bream.