participating as well for review of compliance with departmental policy. there will be a concurrent criminal investigation that will take place by the texas rangers of the incident that occurred tonight. this is the culmination of three long weeks for our community and throughout these weeks we talked about the importance of remaining vigilant and looking i want to continue that message was he would stand here this morning though because we don't know where this suspect has spent his last 24 hours and, therefore, we still need to remain vigilant to ensure that no other packages or devices have been left through the community. so as we go through the day today, we want the community to remain vigilant, but i also want to look at where we are now in round rock and remind our neighboring communities of round rock and cedar park and the other cities that we do not know where he has been in the past 24 hours. and we need your communities to remain vigilant as well

and, again, if you see something that looks suspicious, if you see something that's out of place, if you see something that gives you concern, call 911 and let us know so that we don't experience any more tragedies in our communities because we have had far too many over the past three weeks. i, again, want to thank the tremendous support and participation that we have had from our federal partners and since this is still an ongoing investigation, we're not going to release a lot of the specific details that led to the incidents that occurred tonight: we did have one officer who was injured when that bomb detective none nateed as he approached the vehicle, suffering minor injuries and then we had one officer as i mentioned early that he fired his weapon at the suspect. that officer has been with the austin police department for 11 years and, again, is a member of our swat team as is our standard practice, he

will be placed on administrative duty while we conduct the necessary investigations into what happened here. i'm now going to turn it over for comments to special agent of the atf. thank you. >> the unprecedented level of cooperation and partnership from the law enforcement agency that the local, state, and federal level allow you had each of our agencies to bring us different skill set to bear and identify this subject. and fortunately tonight we are able to bring this part of the investigation to a close. i also want to thank the public who continued to support us and cooperate with and continued to send in tips. and as the chief said, we want them to continue to be village lepght. we are concerned that there still be other devices out there. we want to be sure if people see suspicious packages or bags they continue to call

911 and report that to the police so we can respond and deal with those packages. thank you. >> i would like to say today is a great day for law enforcement. i would like to thank the partners. it was an exceptional relationship here in texas and particularly austin. chief manly did an unbelievable job. the federal government brought the full resources of federal law enforcement here to solve this and to stop the injuring and the killing that was occurring. as the chief said, we're not done yet. it's a long day ahead. we are concerned that there may be other packages that are still out there. we need the public to remain vigilant, especially today as we go through this investigation. we'll be here as long as it takes with our partners to figure out exactly what happened, why it happened and how it happened. and we're committed to staying here with the austin police department for as long as it takes to make sure we understand exactly what happened here. just like to say this is

what law enforcement does every day in this country. the brave men and women of the austin police department put their lives on the line tonight to stop this man from setting off bombs. as the chief said, one of their officers was hurt approaching the suspect as he dot to detonated a second device. that's what law enforcement does every day in this country they put their lives on the line to make sure all of us are safe. i would like to commend the chief and his brave men and women who approached that subject's vehicle and stopped the subject from hurting anybody else. thank you very much. >> i understand that the investigation is continuing and that everyone still is urged to be vigilant and look for things that are out of place, with that said, gentlemen, on behalf of an incredibly thankful community, i just want to say thank you. and if you would pass that onto the men and women that

you work with, chief ma man licensofficer man manley and your officers. federal state agencies, thank you. >> and i would just like to close with really a thought for the families in our community who have lost loved ones who had loved ones seriously hurt in these incidents, our heart remains with you as you go through your healing process and your time of sorrow. and we stand by you and with you in your time of need. and with that we'll open it up for questions. >> chief, i understand there may be more than one suspect involved? are you still looking for other individuals who may be

connected to this one? >> this investigation is still underway so we cannot say that this was an individual acting on their own. that's why this investigation will continue through the day or days coming. >> without naming the suspect can you give us at least by graphic call? age was he an austin resident. >> the incident involved in this incident was a 24-year-old white male. we are not going to give any more information regarding his residence. >> any accomplices? >> as i said, this investigation is ongoing. we want to make sure that we have confirmed that he either acted alone or if there were any accomplices that we identify them. >> does this individual date back to march 2nd? >> we believe that this individual is responsible for all incidents that have taken place in austin, starting on march 2nd. those that occurred since

then as well. >> sir, are you still searching the fedex. >> there is still a search going on at that schertz warehouse wanting to make sure that warehouse is safe, in addition to the fact that a bomb detonated in that warehouse and it takes a while to process a post blast investigation like that. so that's going to take a while for that one to be cleared. >> there were several leads that led us to this person. we had a lot of leads that came to us via the video sources as well as witnesses. >> was he ever on your radar prior to this? >> this was a subject that we had developed over the course of the investigation, but we became very interested in him over the past couple of days. >> any motives? >> why? >> that's the one thing we don't have now is the motive

behind. this we do not understand what motivated him to do what he did and that will also be part of the continuing investigation as we try to learn more about him and to understand why he took the actions that he did. [several asking questions at the same time] >> sorry? >> was he on his way to deliver another bomb. >> we don't know if he was on his way to deliver another bomb. it is obvious he had one with him. that's the one he detonated in the vehicle as we approached. >> can we ask you in regards to how this motive or how the operations of the bombs evolved? you know, it started off package bombs, it moved to trip wires. it moved to fedex. you know, it doesn't seem like the same guy. why are you so confident this is the same guy or is this just an example of the person, suspect evolving? >> again, as we said all along, we didn't want to give out specific descriptions of the type of packaging the initial bombs

were in because we knew there was the potential he would change his methods and that is, in fact, what occurred here. we do believe that all of these are related and that he is responsible for these based on the similarities we have seen in all of the devices and evidence we are finding from those that did detonate. >> does he have any military experience? [several questions] >> the fedex packages we are not going to identify who they were mailed to. we did have contact with them. >> was there any contact with the subject before? >> no. again, we had found him in the parking lot of a hotel in this neighborhood behind us. and we did not contact him again. we wanted this to come to a peaceful resolution tonight. we knew how dangerous this situation was given what he done in our community leading up to tonight. so we were waiting to get the best assets in place with our tactical teams and

our ballistic vehicles so we had the best chance possible to take him into custody. however we were not afforded that opportunity when he started driving away and we could not let him get anywhere into the community. that's why we ended up having interaction on the frontage road behind us. [several asking questions at the same time. >> do you know why he drove away. >> i don't believe he saw them but that's something we will never know. don't know what his background is. >> last question. >> do you know what motivated him at this point now that you have been able -- >> no, again, as we stated earlier, we do not know what the motive was behind that hopefully as we continue this investigation, we will uncover some facts so we can try and understand although this is something that there is no rationale for but we can try to understand what his motive was. thank you very much.

♪ steve: this is a fox news alert. the suspected austin bomber is dead and 19 days of terror in texas over. ainsley: while you were sleeping, police tracking the suspect to the city of round rock, texas, which is right outlines of austin. the bomber died after detonating some type of explosive device inside his car as the swat team closed in on him. brian: they were getting closer and closer. we have live team coverage from texas this morning. we just watched this whole thing unfold. so, here at 11 minutes after, we finally have a resolve to an event that began, a terrorist event that began for 19 days and started march 2nd. todd piro is on his way to round rock where the bomber died. ainsley: let's get to steve doocy who is at the austin

headquarters down in texas we learn more how police tracked him down. steve: good morning brian and ainsley. i don't know if you can hear it, right now we are actually not only in front of the police station here in downtown austin, texas. we are underneath interstate 35. we saw chief manley from alongside interstate 35. it was four or five miles to the north of where we are as the chief just detailed, last night about 9:00 they had used all sorts of cell phone evidence and video from that fedex store and they found out hot guy was. it turns out he was hold up at a hotel in round rock, texas, not far from where we are right now. they were waiting for a tactical team before they engaged him but for some reason the guy got in the car and they did not want him blowing anything else up, so they went for a little while and then he pulled over on a frontage road.

the police engaged him, apparently there were shots fired. and then the guy who was a suspected bomber, who has caused this wave of terror here in austin blew himself up. we don't note motive at this point. the chief says that's way too soon. we don't know whether he acted alone. he was identified as a 24-year-old white man. ainsley: as brian was saying yesterday, they were getting hundreds of leads, steve and brian, and the police officer just said in the press conference that they really took several leads, led them to this guy over the past 24, 36 hours. they kept getting information about this one person and so they followed him, tracked him down to his vehicle and they were able to do his job. the fbi, they have been criticized in the press recently. they did an amazing job. the police did an amazing job. police are waking up in austin with a sense of relief. we are so sorry for those families that have lost loved ones because of all of this. so many people are waking up

thankful that this guy they don't have to worry about receiving a package in the mail and it's going to blow up. brian: as you know, officer brian manley made it clear he is not sure if this guy planted other packages around austin. we know this fedex facility was 73 miles away from austin. so, don't pick anything up. and if you are in the post office or even the fedex person right now, you have to wonder the security measures they have got take because you don't know what this guy was capable of before he seemingly took his own life in his car because it feels as though maybe one thing led to another and he realized he was being followed and this thing was just about over. in fact, here is the chief -- steve: i have been on the ground here in austin about 14 hours. i will tell you as soon as i landed and i have been talking to people on the street and talking to police. there has been a wave of terror here. people have been afraid to let their children walk home after the trip wire bombing.

they have been afraid to order anything from delivery service. especially after what happened yesterday. and ainsley and brian, it sounds as if the key to the case came with the news we reported from the couch yesterday and that was at the schertz, texas federal express location, where that one package bomb exploded where it went from one conveyor belt to the other. and they did a complete search of the federal express change and they found another bomb that was unexploded. what they were able to do. apparently they were able to track it down to a fedex location in sun set valley. which is not far from where we are right now in texas. they were able to figure out that the suspect dropped off two packages at 7:30 in the morning to fedex. there was nobody behind the counter. just one of those things where you drop it in the chute. they were able to triangulate not only the surveillance video where it showed a man, perhaps, with a wig and a ball cap and a

t-shirt. but they were able to triangulate cell phone data, surveillance video, and as we just heard from the chief apparently they have had this guy on their radar for a while then they started watching him and closing the net. ainsley: what's interesting before he was dropping these boxes off at door steps, going to be harder to find someone who does that you step into a fedex store you have to know someone is going to see something. have you got to put information down there. you find out who it is tracking to, you have to put an address. there is the worry, probably, that he is going to be caught on camera. this guy got sloppy. as a result, police were able to track him down. the second thing i noticed is the first bombing happened on march the 2nd. then you had march 12th, then the 18th, the days got closer and closer, then march 20th. did he get better at making bombs? did he feel more confident because it appears that maybe on the second he made a bomb, it worked. and then on the 12th, it

took him that long, 10 more days to make the next bomb and then he got better and better at doing this and more confident. ultimately led to police catching him. brian: meanwhile chief manley moments ago as we started our show and leap from "fox & friends first" to "fox & friends" described the last moments before the suspect seemingly blew himself up. >> detonated a bomb inside the vehicle, knocking one of our swat officers back and one of our swat officers fired at the suspect as well. the suspect is deceased and has significant injuries from a blast that occurred from detonating a bomb inside his vehicle. brian: we know he is a 24-year-old white male. we have no idea at this point of the motive. that could come together quite quickly as you realize who he is. confirmation of his identity. then you fan out to his family and friends. his co-workers.

you find out what cap paralyzed the capital of texas. had 500 officials flood that area. didn't have to wait 18 years like the unabomber but we did have to wait 19 days and for that that was a lifetime, steve. steve: indeed, brian. joining us now outside the police station in austin, texas is fred burton, counter terrorism expert. we haired from one of the fbi guys, this was a great day for law enforcement. >> it certainly was. bombers make mistakes but i have not seen this level of federal law enforcement assistance probably since 9/11. i mean, steve, we had 500 fbi agents and atf here working on this case. so it's a great day for law

enforcement. steve: there is a lot we don't know yet. we don't know the motive. we don't know why he changed his delivery system. dropping things in front of houses and then a trip wire and ied and dropped stuff in the fedex mail stream. how do you put all that together? >> there was a sense of urgency here in austin. meaning the tempo of the attacks, i have not seen this kind of tempo. no model that fits with this 24-year-old bomber. motivation is going to be key. it would not be surprising for me to find some sort of statement or manifesto in his car or in his hotel room. that's going to be very interesting. the mind set of a bomber. steve: now, fred was sitting next to me when we were listening to the police briefing just about 10 minutes ago. when it was announced he was 24 years old. i said is that unusual? you said no. it fits the profile. >> it does fit the profile. interesting aspect here would be how did he learn this skill set?

meaning this is something that you have got to practice or does he have military training or some sort of eod training. to me that's going to be interesting. the devil is going to be in the details here. i guarantee you, steve, this case is going to be looked at for a long, long time as to how do you hunt for a bomber. every law enforcement tool that has been developed since 9/11 has been put into place to find this guy. steve: it does look as if the fatal mistake in revealing himself was the fact that he did drop two packages off at that fedex location because there was surveillance video. they were able to track down, triangulate with cell phones and surveillance videos who was in that neighborhood. they started to look at who was in the other neighborhood when the other bombs went off. >> it's perfect example of how when the federal law enforcement wants to focus on somebody they can find that needle in the haystack. steve: right. >> it also appears to me

based on chief manley's. and the police department has done a wonderful job and so has the chief. they had this individual under surveillance for while. it's going to be interesting to see when they put that surveillance team on him, it appears last night at what time? so that's going to be fascinating too as this plays out. steve: i know i was talking to somebody on the street last night who said that it's been wild here. there has been a wave of terror over austin. people have been afraid to go outside. they didn't know if the next thing he was going to do is he would have a hidden bomb and start detonating them via remote control. this guy had a lot of different plays in his playbook. >> he did. and having lived and worked here in austin and stratfor, you have the same kind of mind set and sense of panic and chaos similar to the what d.c. sniper had in the d.c. area for a while. austin is a small town, though it's growing and kind of exploding pardon the pun with infrastructure and

movement here. the city is not like it was 20 years ago. steve: fred, we thank you very much for your expertise, stand by. meanwhile ainsley and brian we have more guests. ainsley: terry turny, former counter terror agent and man responsible for catching the unabomber. what's your reaction to the news this morning? >> well, last night it appeared that they were really going to be closing in overnight on someone big break they had was undetonated bomb they found in the fedex mail stream. that was vital and turned out to be exactly what all of us would have hoped for. you put that together with everything else they were doing, and i think when you had that large presence of several hundred atf and fbi agents. you knew also instinctively they were out following the component leads u a lot of leads were coming in and a lot of information was being pieced together. this task force of state and local and federal agencies

and led by the chief is just really, really impressive. the job that they did overnight. it's not just a matter of getting information, ainsley. it's a matter of collecting it properly and then being able to quickly assess it and it's almost like panning for gold. you know, the water is coming down the stream and you have to kind of fight the current and you have to hope that you just kind of salvage those few gold nuggets that rise to the top. that's exactly what they did. and they pursued them and overnight they ended up this morning and ended up in the place they needed to be. i'm not there and i'm not part of that. but i feel really proud of what they did. >> it's not just to be good at your job. it's not just to show up and use your skill. it's coordinating. and putting somebody in charge and having people do things and way reporting to central authority so they can move cohesively on these leads. and they got hundreds of leads in a very short amount of time. i also thought it was

imprevisich that this bomber showed a lot of skill for me because i don't make bombs but one, he leaves packages. then he comes up with a trip wire and comes one a situation where he is able to get it to a location where it detonates maybe on a timer or maybe on touch. does that impress you, terry? >> well, it does, but, brian, while it impresses me it doesn't so much surprise me maybe you and i would have been passionate as we got younger making sure we got. build explosive or deadly devices to kill people. that's what they do. and that's the part of this we may never understand. as each day goes by. as each year goes by and as we deal with these people, we learn more and more about how to approach it and how to kind of end something like this a lot sooner. but that question we have never answered really, when you really get down to it. why would somebody really do

this. you can have all these rationalizations and have political left and right and have all these motives. you still get counse down to why would someone want to do this? why would someone want to put a trip wire device out in a place where some mother with a stroller with a baby or two kids going to a little league game would trip it and die? why would someone want to do that? that's a part of human nature we still don't have an answer to. brian: two people died steven and ray len, a 17-year-old. i know steve have you been talking to an expert and have you been talking to terry. i'm sure have you some questions. steve: absolutely right. terry, it was about 48 hours ago here in austin when the chief of police came out and essentially engaged the bomber. and he said we would like to open a dialogue with you. so, go ahead and contact us.

he gave the number and different ways to come in contact with the chief whose office is right behind me right here. you told us yesterday you felt as if by virtue of him putting these two packages into the federal express mail stream that's how he was talking back to them. he was answering the chief with more bombs. which brings up the question: why did he change the operational tempo of the delivery of these bombs? >> that's a really good question, steve. i think we will find out a lot more about that. that's one of the whats and hows and whys that i hope they will be able to answer here in the next few days. but, keep in mind, that in all of these bombing cases, it's not unusual for these people to change up their pace, to change kind of something about their explosive devices to change their delivery system. eric rudolph did that by the

time he got to his last bomb, this was the olympic bomber. his first bomb it been built with dynamite and passive device designed to go off when somebody disrupted it. by the time we got to him killing a policeman in january of 1998 eric rudolph was standing back on a hillside ready to remote control a bomb as a police officer leaned over it he had changed in that way. theodore kaczynski had gotten to the point where his mom said in his notes and taunting letters to us that his bombs are now in smaller packages and much more lethal. in this instance this bomber was changing, too, by the day. so i think that one of the things that i'm wondering from some of the things we are learning he wanted to be a scholarly model and somebody learning from. so serial bombers of the past. and it will be interesting to see if they find anything like that as they --

ainsley: is that because they get a high off of changing the technique because they get bored and they want to see how far they can take it or is it because they want to get caught? this guy had to know by stepping into a fedex store there was probably going to be a video. >> i have never run into one of these people who want to get caught it never appears that way. none of them want to get caught. there is some of a high but i'm not a psychologist. i really believe, again, these people's passion becomes killing u in one of the things that theodore kaczynski wrote, we had 55,000 pages of documents of his because he kept track every day of his life. he said here's why i'm killing people because i'm angry. i'm just plain angry. what does that mean? i mean that's what he said. brian: they said they have a 24-year-old. he is a white male. he is not giving name up yet. i'm sure they know a lot

about his friends and family over the last 36 hours. let's go out to todd piro at the scene as close as he could to where the suspect blew himself up. todd, what's around you? todd: yeah, brian, take a look. you can see over here the police presence is massive. there is not a lot of movement regular pedestrian cars there on 35 south. in other words, there is no movement. that entire highway is blocked off. there are responders, ambulances, swat cars, everything can you see around that red roof inn area. we arrived here seconds ago from san antonio area where we were at that fedex facility. obviously, everything changed today. with that said, brian, i'm sure you have been talking about this throughout the course of the morning. if there was one take away from the austin police chief, is that we are not done yet. this situation is very

gliewd. yes, the suspect blew himself up nut car and yes, we are not expecting any new packages from him. at this point in time we do not know if there are any other bombs, devices, packages, whatever elsewhere through the community. and so during that news conference the austin police chief implored everybody please be vigilant. if you see something that looks suspicious, contact authorities. in addition, authorities are still working this case very, very hard. we do know that the suspect who died is a 24-year-old white male but beyond that they are not ready to say that this guy did not have accomplices. just briefly what we found out from the news conference, police have been following a number of leads. in the last 24 to 36 hours, following that fedex explosion, which gave them a lot of clues, they went from having a person of interest to a suspect. they were able to figure out

the car he was driving, which led them to the hotel where he was staying. police this morning decided to surround that hotel and were waiting for tactical teams to arrive in order to make the scene as safe as possible. because, obviously, they know this is an individual who has bomb capabilities. however, the car that this individual was in started to drive away. police started to follow. the car then stopped and as swat approached the individual suspect blew himself up, killing himself. they cannot name a suspect at this point in time for two reasons. one, he has not been positively identified by the coroner and, two, his next of kin has been notified. again, if there was one main take away this entire area from austin to round rock all the way up to san antonio needs tree main vigilant because we do not know what if anything else is out there. back to you. brian: all right. todd.

good recap and maybe be able to get closer soon. geraldo rivera has now joined steve doocy out on remote outside the police station. ainsley: guys, i want to update you the president has just tweeted he said austin bombing suspect is dead. that is all cops. great job by law enforcement and all concerned. he bricks up an excellent point because if you think about these officers approaching this guy's car, how terrified they must be, they probably have families at home. they don't know what this guy is capable of or what is he going to do. if he has a bomb. if it's going to detonate. one of the officers falls back on the side of the road. one of the officers, i assume it was that one was injured the police chief said. another officer was firing at this suspect. >> we had an incident, a very rare incident in terms of police cowardice in parkland, florida, where the cop, scott peterson, the officer assigned to the school stayed outside when

the perpetrator cruz went inside and massacred 17 kids. it wa appal image over the thin blue line. it was out of the ordinary in terms of my experience with cops and how brave they are, how selfless they are and here you had this magnificent example, steve, of cops coming together from all over. superb relationship of chief manley and texas state authorities including the rangers, everybody from texas. had this flood of hundreds of atf and fbi agents. doing everything from triangulating cell phones. checking out all of those surveillance cameras, you know, getting a person of interest. getting the person of interest, developing that evidence. getting him all the way up to being a suspect. then watching him in the parking lot, tracking him. trying to bring in

reinforcements. the guy moves in a hurry. they had to spontaneously change their approach. they had to react to what was happening. swat guys approaching a vehicle that could very easily had blown up in their face and guess what it did. so here you see, you know, cops really standing up really doing this community very proud. the threat has been eliminated. this reminds me of timothy mcveigh and the oklahoma city bombing in 195. i'm pretty sure you will find some type of warped, sick, perverse political motivation. steve: i think you could be right. if folks are just waking up, we don't know exactly what time the police engaged the suspected bomber down here in austin, texas. but when the police came up to him, there were shots fired. and then the guy blew himself up. we don't know if the car had more bombs in it we know one of the police officers was injured. there was some awesome police work done, geraldo,

for a town that has been terrified for the last 19 days. because there has been a certain randomness to it. you know, why did he drop those bombs on the stoops of those three houses? and then why did he have the trip wire in a completely different kind of neighborhood? and then why did he put things into the fedex mail stream? obviously some sort of genius when it comes to this sort of stuff and then at the same time, why did he do it? what's the motive? you could be right. >> i think he was showing off. i think he wanted to stay one step ahead of the man. he saw himself in heroic terms, i'm guessing. he first, by leaving the packages, that was the easy one. taking out, you know, the elderly lady first and the teenager. and then escalating that with the trip wire.

-- he kept escalating. he kept escalating his approach. steve: there was just one other component, ainsley and brian. what's going on down here. a wave of terror, obviously. but in the last two days, because the police have been so clear about if you see something, say something, they have received something like 1300 suspicious packages here in austin proper. and every time there was a package, there would be a lock down. and if there was a school within a mile, the school would be locked down. there would be evacuations all over the place. if this, obviously,omes through and this guy was working alone, and it was just him, austin, texas will breathe a sigh of relief because everybody has been on pins and needles. >> that's my guess. my guess this is one pervert, one narcissist, one

egotist show us he was smarter than everybody and terrorize his community. what's his beef against austin? i have some theories on that. we can get to that the fact of the matter is, just put yourself in the shoes of that swat officer. now you are approaching that vehicle. it's 2:00, 3:00 in the morning. we saw some fbi guys when we left the hannit scene of the goodwill bombing, incendiary device exhausted, exhausted. now you have got the swat team. now they are walking up to the vehicle. how do you know that vehicle is not going to be the bomb of the mother of all bombs. after iraq and afghanistan i'm very sensitive what these ieds can do. the devastation is diabolical. plus he has been loading them as you know with nails, with shrapnel the early bombs. it's not just a blast. now it's got all these lethal nails coming to chop you up. steve: he was obviously trying to kill as many people as he could. >> and hurt and spread

mayhem. steve: , brian and ainsley i'm sure you have questions for herald. brian: i'm sure when law enforcement knew who he was they advisoried in on him and watch him go to the hotel. they wonder what the speculation packages out there. you are covering this last night with sean and of course throughout the night with shannon, i'm wondering what they're thinking. how do we contain this? how do we not jump ahead and get ahead of ourselves and what if we have it wrong? can you imagine the thought in their head as the car pulls out and he begins to be followed and they are wondering what if he notices us? what if he doesn't notice us? how are we going to rangle this guy and where is he heading? is he heading to a congested area? at what point do we cut him off? all these things start taking place and going through their minds. they kept it top secret the whole time. i watched all the coverage. nobody knew if they had the suspect in mind. am i right, geraldo? >> >> i had absolutely no idea.

you are right, brian. we were checking every twitter feed. the cops have an excellent twitter feed here in austin. the fire department very helpful and useful. calling around the american states men, the high functioning newspaper here in the capital of the republic of texas had nothing on it. it wasn't until the first stories i saw at 2:00, 3:00 in the morning central time, 3:00 in the morning approximately central time where the story broke and they -- it was after the fact that the media learned. i think that the prime caution aside from safety was whether or not the theory that he was acting alone was correct. i mean, it could have been, very, very rare, but it could have been a can can a bowl. ia -- kabul. a militia. they had to be prudent about that. they had to go slowly. yet, when the guy moved and

he hadn't busted them yet, my impression is, when he left that parking lot and he is on the move. now he has a car load of bombs they figure accurately and heading god knows where to do god knows what, you could see that this is not only the strategic aspect of it was the cell phone triangulation, with the surveillance video, with all of the high tech policing, they also have to figure out where he is going now. ainsley: yeah. >> there is police work and bravery and guts. steve: according to that the statesman done work down here, they did get a search warrant to examine his google search engine result. they were able -- there was some suspicious things in that. for all he know he could have made the reservation for that hotel or motel on that. and that's how they figured out where he was. >> you mentioned google. this guy didn't learn how to make those bombs with

google. steve: 24-year-old guy. he probably somehow was tied to the internet. >> tied to the internet or the military. >> when you see the level of sophistication. it sounds simple, you have to make sure the package bomb doesn't blow up when you are putting it on the porch. steve: adding a trip wire that ratchets up the level of sophistication. >> if you want it to go through the fedex system and be delivered to the person who is targeted, you know, this is a level of sophistication that i find deeply distressing. god forbid it's an internet learned experience because i see copycat. ainsley: we will find out more investigation. investigators will let us know throughout the day and next few weeks. geraldo, when we were coming in to work this morning. tvs are on. security guards, everyone is talking about this. excited finally austin can wake up with relief this

morning. we are all relieved that this guy was caught and found. what was your sense this morning as you are walking out of the hotel, as all this news broke just a few hours ago or maybe an hour and a half ago? >> i was up around 2:30. nothing had happened. i went to bed like 1. 2:30 i woke up. i had that edgy feeling. i checked everything. nothing. then the alarm rings, 4:00 and i check there is a fox news bulletin that the guy had blown himself up in the conversation with cops. the feeling, i will tell you, ainsley, it was like oh, wow. you know, it's like a weight was lifted. suddenly, you know, the good guys have won one. after all the melancholy stories particularly parkland we have seen lately i had a sense that man o man they did a hell of a job.

they tracked him with gum shoe police work. they are all over this guy. ainsley: we can all relate because we all get packages. >> we all get packages. especially my wife. [laughter] steve: i talked to a couple people since march 2nd when the bombing started, they stopped ordering from amazon. they stopped allowing their kids to walk home from school. they didn't know if there was going to be a trip wire. some people have started installing the surveillance cameras. which, as it turns out. that was really the biggest break in the case. where they saw the image from 7:30 in the morning on sunday of the fedex store in sun set valley, texas. where the guy went in, dropped the two things off. they figured, you know what? that probably is a wig. they were able to use cell phone technology to figure out who is the neighborhood at the time. they did the search engine, search, boom, they had their guy. >> one thing can you never

under estimate is how terrorized this communities was. steve: absolutely. >> because of what you were just saying how random it was. i talked to a mother and daughter yesterday. their whole lives have been distoirted by the last three weeks. brian: hold on, guys, i want to deal in buck sexton former fbi and officer. buck, as you have been listening to this since the presser at the top of the hour, i'm just wondering, you have a 24-year-old. you think you know who it is over the last 24 hours. have you already talked to his family and friends, being that you know who he might be? >> law enforcement is going to move very quickly on this obviously. brian: do you think they have already been contacted and tried to find his universe before they moved in. >> first priority is making sure there are no other devices out there. yes whether you have this level of law enforcement. they are going to be looking all connections as they can to find out all they can on this individual. based on the fact that he is going to have quite a social media profile i would be willing to wager. they have insights who this is the next few days.

as to how he got to this point, yesterday when i was here on the couch we mentioned how the fedex issue here, showing up at fedex may have been the change. brian: that's what the statement seems to be with the video. >> when you look at the time line, this has gone on for weeks. everyone was saying the change in tactics, additional bombs. shows sophistication. if he had stayed with the simpler version of the attacks. putting parcel bombs in front of people's homes. it may have been going to fedex that allowed thriewmplet bring some of those other tools to bear like cell phone data. pulling things from the towers. making sure they can geo locate. whatever it is they did to hone in is what changed the game here. ainsley: they said there were hundreds, maybe thousands of leads. then over the last 24 to 46 hours they started focusing in on this guy. do you think it was people at fedex? they said they were getting lots of leads from people and that's what led them to zoom in on this one person.

>> well, ainsley, it's so tough to tell right now because law enforcement did an amazing job with operational security. last night, until a lot of this was breaking, i think people had very little idea that there was even a lot coming in to law enforcement about tips. they kept it all very close hold, which, in this instance was obviously the right move it meant that this individual probably let his guard down a little bit. may have changed some of his patterns. we are getting leads and getting closer and closer all the time. i'm sure the community once more information comes out people started to say oh, i was near that location. i remember seeing somebody, that information filters in to law enforcement. they sift through and they did a phenomenal job here. brian: may have been evil but he wasn't stupid. that's pretty clear. ainsley: until he went to fedex. brian: plot and plan and construct. you hear about the bomb maker in iraq and lebanon. this guy somehow became a bomb maker in austin, texas.

in fact, a short time ago the police chief, brian manley addressed the press about what went on. and that the suspect that they had -- that they were zoning in on was indeed dead. let's listen. >> the suspect detonated a bomb inside the vehicle, new yorking one of our swat officers back and one of our swat officers fired at the suspect as well. the suspect is deceased and has significant injuries from a blast that occurred from detonating a bomb inside his vehicle. the individual involved in this incident was a 24-year-old white male. and we're not going to give out any information regarding his residence. we believe that this individual is responsible for all incidents that have taken place in austin, starting on march 2nd. those that occurred since then as well. there were several leads that led us to this person we had a lot of evidence that came to us.

the video sources as well as witnesses. this investigation is still underway, so we cannot say that this was an individual acting on their own. that's why this investigation will continue through the day or days coming. this was a subject that we had developed over the course of the investigation. but, we became very interested in him over the past couple of days. that's the one thing we don't have right now is a motive behind. this we do not understand what motivated him to do what he did. and that will also be part of the continuing investigation as we try to learn more about him and to understand why he took the actions that he did. brian: that's the key. what we know about him. what we don't know about him. they know a lot more than they are letting on right now. ainsley: i wanted to ask you, buck, because in the press conference we'll learned that police and fbi they showed up first. they said they were waiting on the tactical teams and that's when the suspect started driving away. that's when they followed him. they were waiting on the

tactical team. what did they do. >> swat would want to be there so they could have the additional assault capability. we call esu. emergency services unit. and somebody with aed to dial with devices there. specialized equipment. the ability to render safe anything that they would consider to be a possible explosive. that's why they are waiting for those teams. there were explosives on the scene. waiting was the right move. brian: how great was it that he left a crowded hotel room. a bomb maker leaves a crowded area and went by himself. that was a god accepted for law enforcement. if he tries to do something in a hotel, you could have a lot of. ainsley: casualties. >> you would want to take him in a place away from civilians. brian: he took us away from civilians. >> it worked out. you wouldn't want him to be in a place to make a last stand. that's why they would want to have swat and eod on the scene. ainsley: steve, do you have any questions for buck?

steve: buck, great analysis. i do have a question for terry turchie who is joining us from the west coast. terry is a former fbi guy who helped figure out hot unabomber was. ted kaczynski. terry, i know a lot of this is speculation right now. generally with a serial bomber as we suspect this guy was, the guy who apparently blew himself up about six hours ago, when you start a wave of terror like this. do you build all the bombs at once or do you go build a bomb, blow it up, see how it works and then figure out what went wrong, something a little differently? did he have 10 bombs stashed somewhere? or was it ala cart? one at a time? >> well, we're going to have that answer but it almost seemed from the beginning of this that he had in fact built all these bombs during a period of time and then started on phase 2, which was delivering them and then

changing up the way he was delivering them. it's very interesting to see how he did it. with respect to the unabomber, for example, steve, the answer to your question is he experimented all day long in the woods around his house in hun tanna. and he experimented for years. from 1978 when he began, until 1995 when he sent his last bomb. and then, of course, the bomb we found under his bed that he was getting ready to mail in 1996, he had changed and progressed to where he could pack a very lethal bomb into essentially the package the size of a video cassette. and the last two of those bombs killed their target. eric robert rudolph was experimenting with his bombs and bomb making. he was the olympic bomber outside of in the woods in north carolina. he had also progressed. by the time he went from the olympic bombing, which was a big bomb with lots of dynamite and a big pipe he

was killing a policeman in birmingham and watching it from the hillside as he dot ton nateed it as the police officer went to remove something which in fact looked like a booby trap, a trip wire disguised device. so they all do kind of the same fact pattern and it's one of those things that we are learning more and more about. and hopefully that's one of reasons that over time these cases are being brought to a conclusion even faster. ainsley: these people are just sick. to sit there and watch it from afar. die, build a bomb and know that some innocent victim is going to open it up and nails are going to go flying at an individual. this is sick and so disgusting. buck, when you watched the news and press conference this morning, was there anything that you you thought stood out or would recognize because of your training in this area. >> just compilation of different tactics and came together on law enforcement side. i know they are holding back some of the information and rightly so that they used

cell phone data, that they used tips from members of the public. and they also had something in these device when they looked at them afterwards and did an initial forensic run through that let them know these were linked devices and also may have played a role in helping law enforcement track down who this person was. so, it seems like this was a combination, a compilation of different approaches from law enforcement that finally got them to get their guy here. brian: i will add to, this steve, i think the next thing we are going to see is the police chief come out and give us the name of who he is. and maybe some background. they have not been -- they have not been a law enforcement who is saying very little. i think they were very open because they needed so much help. do you have any sense of what's next? steve: well, i think you are absolutely right, brian. when chief manley did speak about an hour ago. he made it very clear in addition to figuring out

whether or not the guy acted alone, also they had to notify his next of kin and all the regular procedure. you know, you start to put together the pieces, and you wonder why they were able to start to focus on this particular guy. and this goes to something that buck was just talking about. i was talking to some folks yesterday here in austin. they were talking about how the police were going to every hardware store to figure out who was selling the kind of nails. because apparently there was a commonality to the nails. but, there was something very specific about the timing device. and there were only 10 locations here in austin where they were selling those. so, you know, piece by piece and, buck, you can speak to this. that's just how they do it. if he thinking out all right, there are 10 places. let's figure out who bought these things over the last number of months, and you start to squeeze them. you start to close the circle. brian: if i could just chime

in for one second. we understand a local reporter at wfaa roebuck can a lopez is at the home of the suspect and just pushed back by troopers saying the home is not secure. so, somehow locally they got the name. they have the location, and they do not believe that that place is secure. it's not a surprise, terry, that the home is not secure. i mean, this is a bomb maker and we don't know what else he did. >> and that could very well be his bomb factory. it probably is and when we open the door to the little 10 by 12 cabin, the entire cabin, including the loft was nothing more than a bomb factory with carefully designated oatmeal cartons and other kind of containers that contained switches and all kinds of homemade parts and components of future bombs that he could just literally reach up on the shelf and then put together another bomb. ainsley: that is just unbelievable. now, in your situation, i'm sure you saw things change. or maybe you didn't. i'm curious to find outs if

you did because now i'm wondering what's going to happen when the average american wants to send a package through fedex? are we going to have to go through some sort of security screening? is every package going to be screened in a different way? did you see any changes after the unabomber? >> actually, we all had immediate changes after the unabomber and then some more of those changes after 9/11. remember back after the unabomber made a threat to put a bomb on board an aircraft leaving los angeles international airport. when you went to the airport after that you got asked two questions, did you ask pack your own bags and have they been with you ever since that time? that's the affect that that had and then, of course, after 9/11 even more so. i think in this case though, it's very possible that because fedex had good security procedures, this guy bit the dust. and i think that we might find that out sooner rather than later and that he made a mistake when he decided to change up and go to fedex. steve: of course, one of the things here in austin they

are trying to figure out is why did the guy change essentially the operational tempo of the delivery of these devices and terry, maybe you could speak to this having figured out who the unabomber was, and that is could the media attention that he was at home watching or monitoring on his smart phone, could that have been a motivating factor in look at all the attention i got for using the trip wire? i'm going to do something else. let's see how many people, how many stories i generate. how many clicks i can generate. ainsley: buck, brian was mentioning that reporter is at the house. what happens now? what do they do as they enter into the house? >> from a law enforcement perspective, you are talking about how they are going to render the house safe? ainsley: yeah. >> this is obviously very precarious as was mentioned. probably the bomber's factory, whether you are entering a house in fallujah or a house in austin, if you are worried about ieds in

place. they have robots in place. they don't usually go into too much of the details of render safe procedures for obvious reasons. officers wants to have a cool kit not well known to other side and bombers and would be assassins and mad men out there. in this case w they will be moving slowly. it's important don't go near the home or vehicles or anywhere this guy may have been. as the austin police chief is mentioning there are probably other bombs out there and maybe some that haven't been deployed could be very dangerous if mishandled. brian: guess what? now the media knows where the house is now the media knows to stand back. so from a law enforcement perspective, terry, what has to change? you have to cordon off the whole block. you have to move a whole bunch of resources to the suspect's home where you have wanted to keep it low key for as long as possible? >> sure. and, brian, you know, it just kind of goes with the territory. we ended up having to cordon off kind of half of a

mountain side. and so you kind of factor that in. it was bound to happen. and that's just kind of the way it is. but have you got to keep people away from there. it could take a while as buck was mentioning a second ago as well. when you go into that house, the first priority, before you even step foot in the door is to make sure that you have had the whole ordnance idea maximized. knowing that the unabomb devices were somewhat unique and they it dual triggering and switching mechanisms, we had contracted two years earlier with a laboratory to develop an actual robot to deal with. they we found a bomb under the bed and call on those guys and call the u.s. army and bring the robot up and get that bomb out of cabin. these are the kind of things that go on in these people's minds and that's what happened. ainsley: terry, buck, thank you. i know we will be talking to you throughout the remainder of the show.

it's almost 7:00 on east coast. many people have their alarms going off. we will recap what we have learned this morning as so many new people are joining us. brian: manhunt has come to a close. it's 7:00. ♪ steve: this is a fox news alert. the suspect in the austin wave of bombings is dead after 19 days of terror in austin, texas. ainsley: that's right, steve. while you were sleeping, the police were tracking the suspect in the city of round rock. the bomber blowing himself um inside his car as the swat team closed in on the side of the highway. brian: unbelievable. can you imagine those moments? we now know. this we don't know -- this is all we know so far but we are about to get more information. he is 24. and is he a white male. we have live coverage around throughout texas, including the capital of texas in austin. todd piro is at round rock

right outside austin where the bomber died and we believe he took his own life. ainsley: first we will get to steve doocy live outside of police headquarters in austin. steve, when you set up your live shot, we have buck sexton here too next to us who is an expert. we will be chatting with him coming up. when you were setting up for the live shot. police officers running out to go to the scene. what was it like there in austin? steve: actually, they have been out all night long. it's actually pretty quiet where we are right now. but, i don't know if you can hear, but if you hear traffic in the background, that's because we are just under interstate 35. it's just a couple miles to the north of us in round rock where last night starting around 9:00 p.m. central time, they figured out that the suspect in this case, who apparently over the last 24, 36 hours, he was a guy, a person of interest. they realized he was at a roadside motel. they wanted to go ahead and

make sure that if they engaged they did it with the proper tools. so they were bringing in a tactical team. well, they waited and waited. tactical team wasn't there yet. but the suspect got in to his car and started to drive off on 35. and apparently pulled over on to a frontage road. there were police in pursuit of him. he engaged with the police, shots were fired. and that's when the guy got back in his car and pulled the trigger and blew himself and the car up. brian: yeah u of course, that brought this to an end. they cannot give us more about him until believe it or not he changes from a suspect to the person we know for sure has been perpetrating these crimes found their way over to that house. faa reporter.

and then she was told quickly you have got to get back. the site is not secure. but the one area that is secure because we understand that's where the bomber body is where todd piro is in round rock. hey, todd, before we saw with the sun still down, flashing lights, anything change? >> nothing has changed. i-35 south. completely blocked off. if you look right over my shoulder, that area where i'm point something where the suspect blew himself up. nothing i changing on i-35 south there are flashing lights as far as the eye can see. to add to steve's, crucial the fedex package, the one ethics employed, the one that did not explode. both of those packages were helping to identify the bomber. they had a person of interest for a long time. but that individual became a

suspect once the information both on the outside of the package and inside that package became known to authorities. they were able to put the pieces together and figure out who this individual is. with that in mind, while the suspect is dead, authorities say now is not the time for the public to let their guard down take a listen. >> there were several leads that led us to this person. we had a lot of evidence that came to us via video sources as well as as witnesses. this was a subject that we had developed over the course of the investigation. but we became very interested in him over the past couple of days. keep in mind, another reason the investigation is still ongoing, not even close to being done, we do not yet know if this suspect who is dead had any accomplices that could still be out there and still wreaking havoc on this area that has

just been so much over the past of the last three weeks. back to you. ainsley: some injuries, they have to identify him. that's why they are not releasing his name. the next of kin has to be notified as well. the texas rangers will take over. this is now a criminal investigation. i do want to say on behalf of all of us who are watching this, hats off to those police officers, to those fbi agents who were there on the ground. todd: absolutely. ainsley: who approached that car. you know they had to be terrified. they probably have families at home and didn't know what would happen. todd: absolutely, ainsley. that's a really great point. and on a scene like, this similar scenes to when they caught the suspects in the boston bombing, there is a celebratory feel. the big difference there they had a general sense this situation was done. we don't have that sort of same sense here. yes, everybody is very, very thrilled with the fbi, atf,

austin and surrounding ph.d. those individuals when they left that news conference, they were serious. they were walking to their cars to continue the work that needs to be done over the course of the next hours, days and weeks. brian: steve, here is the other thing, we know when we cover this stuff internationally, there is always the bomb maker. the shoe maker had a bomb maker. the shoe wearer wasn't the bomb maker. mad scientist and gives it to somebody to blow themselves up and commit suicide. this seems to have been the same guy. the bomb maker was also the one who killed two people and tried to kill so many more. that is unique. ainsley: i will add to that. i think we might have lost steve for a minute. we assume that. but what if they go in a hotel and see a family member. we don't know. steve: sure. brian: buck, internationally that's what we h right? we had famous bomb makers in

lebanon and iraq and afghanistan. bin laden would telltale his cohorts to go do that but he wouldn't do it. it's rare for the evil scientist to kill himself. >> when you are talking about squadis jihaddists cells. become a very important part of the broader cell. brian: too valuable to kill. >> from our perspective we want to get them obviously as fast as we can to take them off the battlefield. here at home though some of the most well known bomb makers have been both the bomber and the bombmaker. the mad bomber, we have a unabomber expert joining us from his fbi experience. so there are both sides of this. in this case though, i think we are looking at lone wolf mad man. we are probably going to get a sense of whatever manifesto. it might not be something that's all in one place. a series. i would wager, i guess, put

together from facebook posts, what this individual believed in a sense that would have driven him to do something so heinous. i'm not sure that we will find a 30 page handwritten this is why i'm doing everything. we have to see what law enforcement turns up. ainsley: steve, investigators out on the scene, our producers are saying they heard one of them say the hunts for the bomber is a race against time. now we have to go and work backwards. >> that's exactly right. because, keep in mind. people here in austin have been so hyper aware and when that goodwill worker was going through one of the donation bins last night and there was an explosion. they figured this was related. in fact, the attorney general came out and said it is related. half an hour later he said it is not related but we are getting close. so many people have been so hyper aware. that's a good thing. because you did not know where this guy would strike

again. are there other devices in maybe not the fedex mail stream. did he drop something in a post office box? did he put something somewhere else? that's the big question going forward. i will tell you what though, a sound of release here in austin. we are not too far from the university of texas where they made it very clear in the wake of the trip wire bombing, they told the students there do us a favor. look up from your phone. watch where you are walking to make sure you don't walk into a device believe it or not, that would be a ripe targets the university of texas. take your ear buds out for a change. going forward, coming up, as they try to figure out did this guy act alone. the closer they get to some sort of closure so they know that it was the guy, you know, i was talking to a cop earlier today. they felt that whoever was doing it probably was building his own bomb.

as long as they know that it is over, that's when people here in texas will be okay, let's resume our lives. brian: here's why i'm optimistic we will get a lot of answers. number one, it's not a guy sitting in the farm in the middle of nowhere who might have been there for 30 years if you this reporter is right and this is where this guy lives. he is in a crowded area in a suburb. he has neighbors. he has putting putting eyes on him. he might be from that area. he might be somebody who is known in the community. we might be able to piece this together. mainly to stop the next one and make sure there aren't packages which would be part of this mad man's legacy of killing more people. can't forget the two people who died. steven house 39-year-olds and dralan mason. a 17-year-old say he was a music prodigy, had big plans for college.

one day he goes up and picks up a package and his life is over. steve: right. brian: that's what the city of boston was wonderin -- austig was their fate. ainsley: why austin? apparently he lives there. what's his motive? steve: that's right. and the guy's location and name is known to police and to some reporters and we're checking that out. fred burton is joining us right now live here in austin, texas. and fred, people are trying to figure out the motive and we'll know that sooner than later. as you look at what is known, what strikes you? >> well, i was involved with the hunt and capture of the master mind of the first world trade center bombing. bombers have very unique motivations and very unique signatures, steve. steve: what does signature mean. >> signature means how he cuts the wire. how he builds the bomb.

for example, he loved little cassio watch timers as part of his firing train when he built the actual bomb. in this case, now that we have got a residence where the bomber was, the explosive teams are going to be able to go in and look for those unique signatures to connect all the dots to this bomber. and, they are going to find in a pattern of life exactly what has driven this man to do this. i'm pretty confident of that. steve: do you think, fred, given the interest people have in this line of work, the serial bomb business, he was captivated by the amount of attention he was getting? was he watching? was he doing something and going look at that? i got the front page of the paper? >> yes. i think the mind set of a palmer like, this he feeds on the notoriety. he is enjoying toying with the cops.

every time the police made a statement, don't move packages. steve: right. >> he adjusts his course of action and takes it to another kind of device. so this is a person that although you and i would say is probably crazy. steve: right. >> he is mad crazy. meaning he really can calculate and he has probably been planning this for quite some time. i would not be surprised in the least for the austin police department to find additional bombs inside his house. steve: you are probably right. and there could have been some in the car that detonated along with him last night. as we go through the time line right there, what would be interesting as well to figure out, radarring this particular guy, is whether or not he was trained on the internet or has a military background. but do you consider this person a terrorist? >> i think this was domestic terrorism. i think that he has terrorized the city. although we don't have that

political motivation or commune. this city was under a sense of panic and terrorism. i think that was his motive. i would not be surprised in the least to dig up some sort of sovereign citizen. some sort of mind set like a timothy mcveigh in oklahoma city, an eric rudolph. i was also in atlanta when the bomb went off. and the one thing about bombing investigations at the olympics, for example,. steve: right. >> these case cases take a 180. there is a lot to be learned once they get into the house and start looking at his diaries and his internet searches. steve: right. >> plus, what kind of job did he have? steve: sure. good question. fred, thank you very much. >> my pleasure. steve: ainsley and brian. brian: steve,it's pretty clear a lot of people are getting up and getting the good news that the bomber has been caught and is indeed dead. here is how we found out as we look at 1:20 brian manley

addressing the press. he is the police chief. >> the suspect detonated a bomb inside the vehicle. knocking one of our swat officers back and one of our swat officers fired at the suspect as well. the suspect is deceased and has significant injuries from a blast that occurred from detonating a bomb inside his vehicle. the individual involved in this incident was a 24-year-old white male and we're not going to give out any information regarding his residence. we believe that this individual is responsible for all incidents taking place in austin starting on march 2nd and those occurring since then as well there were several leads that led us to this person. we had a lot of evidence that came to us via the video sources as well as witnesses. this investigation is still underway so we cannot say that this was an individual acting on their own. that's why this investigation will continue

through the day or days coming. this was a subject that we had developed over the course of the investigation. but we became very interested in him over the past couple of days. that's the one thing we don't have right now is a motive mind. this we do not understand what motivated him to do what he did. and that will also be part of the continuing investigation as we try to learn more about him and to understand why he took the actions that he did. brian: again, another great moment for texas. they are in a terrible time like after the floods. they stand up. they ask for help. they all fall. in they come together here, 400 law enforcement go down with atf, fbi, as well as local. they team together. they don't say why me. and in 19 days the suspect is dead. ainsley: fbi field offices out there doing a great job. the police department, the texas rangers. boots on the ground. they are leading the fight. and they are doing an excellent job. people have lived in fear.

i know it took them 18 years to find the unabomber. this guy found in a matter of three weeks. even though it terrorize that town. two people left dead. four or five people injured. it's extremely tragic for those families. but, thankfully, if you live in austin, can you wake up a sigh of relief and breathe this morning that this guy is dead. brian: you just heard how it happened. you knew that they zeroed in on him in a hotel. he hopped in his car. they followed him. he pulled over and then reportedly blew himself up. and that's where todd piro is right now. as close as he can, because the area has been secured in round rock outside austin. todd, who are you with? >> i'm joined by the mayor of austin, mayor adler. and, first, i want to ask you, how is your community doing this morning? >> well, they are waking up right now and hopefully they are finding out what's happening. got to be an absolute sense of relief as well as gratitude for this army of

law enforcement officials that have been here and done incredible job. todd: from the national media we come in and cover the nuts and bolts. the emotion. you are on the ground with the people of your community day in and day out. how trying have the last three weeks been for them? >> real trying. incidents like, this with each passing incident the anxiety grows. there is a real sense of helplessness. you want to give answers to questions. the only job the community had was to be vigilant and notice things suspicious or out of place. we were all doing this as a community. i think as the facts come out, the community is going to see that this actually helped resolve this. this morning, just a sense of relief. i expressed on behalf of an incredibly thankful community the appreciation

to the law enforcement agencies and officers that have been here. todd: let's touch upon that ainsley just said look, it took them 18 years to catch the unabomber. the brave men and women. many of whom are behind us now. many of whom are in back offices working tirelessly over the last few weeks caught this guy in 18 days or. so talk to me about that. >> it's been real impressive to watch the team. we have almost felt like the federal agencies have arrived here in waves. there were over 500 officers on the ground here in austin. and that doesn't count all the couple hundred working in quantico, in virginia. and they worked together so well. the sophistication of the equipment that was deployed here. the priority that this was given not only the federal level but the governor and state level. the local agencies the surrounding communities.

chief manley our local police chief and his force, it has been such a team that has worked so seemlessly together. i was expressing confidence to my community over the last week and it was born of watching this team work. todd: thank you for taking the time. i know you are very, very busy. one thing we would like to reiterate we heard in news conference while we are very celebratory today the main suspect is dead we do not know if there are accomplices out there or other packages out there. please, if you are in this area, please be vigilant. back to you. thank you, mayor. brian: todd is out there at the place where the bomber reportedly blew himself up. steve is outside the police station. the good news is the austin bomber is indeed dead. we will continue our coverage from texas and new york in just a moment.

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all cleared up. they have a lot of work to do. they need to get into that house. that might help them. information they find in there might, in fact, he might have made a list of bombs that he had and they might know how many to account for and how many might be unaccounted for. so, all the things that they can do now to get to the places he habitatted and to find out as much as they can about him are going to help them find or determine whether or not he had other bombs in the mail stream. as we talked about this morning at some point on april 3rd of 1996 when we went into kaczynski's cabin he did have a bomb underneath his bed ready to mail. he also had a number of names, one of the few parts of unabomb we have never talked about and won't. but he had a long list of names of future targets. brian: right. >> so it's very important that they stay with that and that's their priority, surely. steve: you know, terry, it does sound as if the crack in the case came after

the -- yesterday at this time when we were all talking together from new york and the west coast as well as b. how the fbi was focusing in on the mail stream at the fedex location in schertz, texas which is about 40 miles south of where i'm sitting right now. and that is they were able to get some images of this guy, the suspect, dropping off these two packages at 6:30 in the morning, just he dropped them in at fedex location. there was nobody behind the counter. but they were able to use geo location and cell phone technology to figure out, okay, whose phones were around there right then? and so they were able to then track them down ultimately to the road side inn tout five miles north of where i'm sitting. terry, going forward, will they be able to use that same technology of geo locating the phone to figure out all the stops he made so that if he did drop other

bombs in other collection boxes or whatever, where they are? >> well, they may very well try to do that steve. they are going to maximize that technique as much as they can. we have that huge facility back at quantico that will support them in every way. and when you were talking, it made me think of something and almost kind of made me laugh to think about two decades ago when we went back to the bureau, our big request was look, we have got the unabomber going into postal offices, what we would like to do is make sure that there are cameras at every post office that we think he might use, based on what we have put together so that we might get a picture of him in the future. and we were told we are not sure we have that kind of technology yet. ainsley: wow. >> certainly we have come a long way since then. ainsley: look how far we have come. that's amazing. steve, you brought up an excellent point. they could easily go back and look at where he was

yesterday. where he was the day before. steve: absolutely. it's a trail. remember, after san bernardino, they were able to say and we think he might have gone over to this lake. because they are able to use the technology. and that's just a known fact. terry, it's not like i'm spilling any beans. brian: right. just a little bit what authorities are saying. they said they not only looked at geo technology using the phones. they also looked at receipts. they were checking what he was buying for us non-bomb makers which i think are pretty much on the scene right now. people for a while looking out for certain material. if you are buying a lot of fertilizer for some reason. people said my goodness. we might as well follow up on this guy call authorities if you sell this type of thing. they were tracking this guy. they obviously knew a lot about him. as the show goes on i'm sure you are going to learn more. steve, have you geraldo who is trying to get additional

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35 which i grew up alongside of in kansas about five miles north of where we are sitting that's where it all went down. cops were closing in, geraldo, the guy rather than face the music, blew himself up. >> it was a superb act of state federal and local police work. it restores our confidence in that thin blue line after the parkland massacre in florida where the cop sat outside and did not much of anything as those children were being slaughtered inside. here you have the opposite. here you have cops of all, you know, departments coming together, using science and forensics and cell phone triangulation. and tips and good gum shoe police work. tracking this guy down. getting his vehicle located. and then having to move spontaneously as the suspect drove off with a car they feared was ladened with

bombs and indeed that came out to be true. steve: sure. >> swat officer approaching the vehicle. i guy blows himself up. shots exchanged or at least the cop was firing. here had you a wonderful, wonderful example of the best of what these heroes do on a regular basis. they -- the motive of this 24-year-old white male is, you know, i can speculate right now. i choose not to. but they have got him, steve. they know his home now. they have tracked, you know, they are searching that. bomb factory. i think he acted alone my personal opinion. i think he had a beef of some sort that metastasized in his own brain. he declared himself. it reminds me a lot of the timothy mcveigh in oklahoma city. steve: i think we are going to know pretty soon chief manley whose office is right behind us, he made it clear in the press conference just before 6:00 a.m. eastern time, as soon as they know something they will come

out. i will tell you what, you have your theories, there have been some crazy theories floating around. a lot of people online talking about how there were many parallels to the netflix series on ted kaczynski the unabomber and they felt, you know, they should just go through the netflix records and figure out who watched the whole series because there were so many parallels between what happened out in the woods and what happened here in austin. >> who know what is motivates a veaz person to kill innocent people. to watch him technologically speaking evolve from someone who is merely placing a package bomb in front of a random stranger's house. we think it was a random stranger and escalating that to the trip wire and then trying to ship these packages by fedex, thank god he did this, because once he went into that technological highly evolved business censor, cameras all over the place and other techniques they have to spot bad guys,

they got the i.d. that ultimately led them to a person of interest and person of interest evolves into a suspect and then they corner the suspect homeland, you made the pop culture reference. she thought that maybe taking lessons from homeland. this is a sanctuary city. maybe the guy had a beef against sanctuary cities. you have a million different possibilities. the bottom line is, this disgusting creature, claimed innocent lives and absolutely terrorized the capital of texas in a way that it is impossible to overstate i spoke to parents afriday have their kids walk to school. afraid of the possibility that the friendly package you get from fedex go blow up in your face.

steve: an uber driver yesterday who part time works at a law firm in one of the skyscrapers behind us. and she said she feels most secure at work because they have an x-ray machine who look at the packages. at home she felt like she was just very vulnerable and she wasn't allowing her kids out either. you are absolutely right to your earlier point, geraldo, the amazing thing about the police response, when you look at what was going on in round rock, texas, just about five miles from where we are sitting right here, along that highway. that is the full resources of the federal government flooded into texas, 500 fbi and atf agents on the ground superb police work. >> they also, aside from gum shoe and forensic and all the smart science guys when that swat officer is a approaching that vehicle there, no science now. there is no high tech. there is no forensic genius.

this is a cop going to a perp. and you don't know whether the perp is going to shoot you or blow you up. have you got to close. in you take that gulp and take that step. you step over the berm and you do it for the folks. and did it in a superb way. i want that officer identified. that's someone that we all have to give a big salute to. steve: we don't know his name but we know he is an 11 year veteran of the building behind us. ainsley and brian? brian: thanks geraldo and steve. 22 minutes before the top of the hour. if you are just waking up, the austin bomber was found. still listed as a suspect, because we don't have his name yet. he blew himself up it seems rather than being taken alive by the officers in pursuit. ainsley: let's bring in buck sexton sitting next to us. analyst with the intelligence division of nypd. cia officer brought in to work with the nypd. what strikes you as this morning, this new information? obviously they have got this

guy. the guy was found dead. anything going through your mind with your experience that we might not pick up on? >> i really wonder what it was about the devices. we keep hearing that yes, there were cell phone geo location brought to bear here. surveillance camera footage. seems lehr that the bomber's to involve fed elks because of the diller security procedures and surveillance that allowed for was the differencemaker here. there has been reporting of the specifics about the bomb. was there something about the components? we have heard about nails. that's used for pipe bombs for suicide vests and shrapnel effect. straightforward tactic that people would use to maximize casualties and carnage. what was the actual explosive? was it tan march right? was it tapp? was it a black powder based device? that may have been a similarity they saw through the various bombs exploded and unexploited. brian: use further visor for

your lawn or for a bomb. i'm wondering as these investigators are looking for receipts to find out what he was buying, in order to maybe wonder if they were tracking the right guy. i'm wondering if we find that out pretty soon. other thing that i think is interesting is the first three bombs were delivered via commercial vehicle on to door steps. we know two people lost their lives. the next one was a trip wire. the next one we don't know why it exploded on the span at fedex. so, as this happened, i'm wondering, do you have these bombs made and decide what to do with them? or is that something to be done quickly? >> it seems like there was an evolution of his tactics. he may have been looking for ways to be able to bring about more carnage and less likely to be caught. setting up trip wire devices, for example, if he did that in areas where he had already done some reconnaissance of the target, understanding what would be around there. he might have known, okay, i won't get caught on surveillance camera here. this could be a place where i could set that up.

whereas putting packages in the delivery service, for example, we have to see and get more from law enforcement what information you have to give in order to hand off that package, are these drop boxes? were they -- were there clerks involved? at fedex we found out that i believe it was dropped. there was no one there. there was still a surveillance camera operating. as he goes through or as he was going through this process of trying to create maximum terror, he may have decided to take an all of the above approach with bomb-making, see what works the best and hone in. i think we are showing how skilled he is. he might have been trying different things out to figure out what actually would be the main method of attack. ainsley: you know the dates if you look at them. it was like labor pains. they were getting closer and closer together. do you think he was making the bomb, watching it explode, listening to the news coverage, then making northerly bomb? then doing it again and again and again? or do you think he made them all in the beginning? >> i would guess he would have had many of the components together for these bombs. he for obvious reasons would

want to avoid taking the final step of arming them and having a large quantity of those in his home. sewer we will be finding out here relatively soon what exactly he had for those bombs and that will effect whether or not he would wants to prepare them before. some more stable than others. brian: a reporter was outside what they think was the suspect's house, got close, they pushed her back. superb much like san bernardino in the middle of the suburb. people were able to see weird stuff going on inside that house. as as we look back whether they thought the neighbors were you present to something and whether they did act. ainsley: police still looking for motive behind the serial bombing. people in the lone star state will get answers fast. is he also friends with that reporter you are talking about, brian. he is going to join us next.

brian brian good news, the austin serial bomber is dead. he blew himself up reportedly as police closed.

in authorities as we speak are searching for a motive and, perhaps, his home. ainsley: our next guest is a texas native. he says texans want answers and they trust their state not to make them wait too long. his name is lawrence jones. he is the editor and chief for campus reform.org and he joins us now. you see steve there. he is down in austin, texas at the police headquarters. think we are all just going to fire off questions to you since you are from texas. campus reform, u. >> it is there in austin. >> right. ainsley: what are your friends in that area staying. >> all texans in the surrounding area texas is such a big state. have you city of austin and round rock area as well where a lot of people live in that area, college students even live outside in that area as well because it's cheaper than, you know, austin, texas. people are just concerned about the packages. they don't know. ainsley: still concerned, too, right? >> still concerned although he has been captured they don't know what packages he left out. you know, this guy got real

sophisticated. he started using trip wires. he had some type of expertise because the packages were able to go through conveyor belts as well without exploding at times. so people just don't know who the target is there was speculation, brian, of it being race-based and that was debunked when there were two white guys also targeted as well. brian: seemed random fedex building and side of the road with a package i don't know who you are targeting. how different is austin from the rest of the state number one and number two, the south by southwest, that's become bigger and bigger from technology to music. >> right. brian: do you think that timing matters? >> yeah. it was interesting because that was around the time where this started to happen. and austin is already a party city. this is where have you fun and get good music. it's pretty safe area. law enforcement are reali good about that. they have plans for terrorism. counter terrorism team they get support from texas rangers. that also as the people know

the state capital as well. little more security with our state troopers area. people go there to have fun. this is not something we are used to in texas. what i will note to our audience, this won't be one of those vegas type situations. brian: we still don't know about las vegas. >> we still don't know. we were able to catch this guy very quickly in texas. part of that goes to the law enforcement in the texas area. the texas rangers. the local police austin. the fbi. and the federal agents were able to assist austin because we have our state officials there that know that the public requires answers. and i have dealt -- we don't know the motive right now. but i guarantee you we will get it sooner than they will in vegas. ainsley: steve, do you have a question? steve: lawrence, the people i have talked to here on the ground in austin, made it very clear that while they were trying to get along with their everyday lives, everything they did they scrutinized. it was like, okay, if i get out of the car in an area

i'm unfamiliar with, am i going to trip -- is there going to be a trip wire? am i going to blow myself up? could the guy be changing his delivery system and be watching me and detonate via remote control some sort of a bomb. so the people i have talked to down here in texas have been terrified. >> i have been hearing the same thing, brother. most people just decided to stay home. that's a sad part. texas has a great economy. people go to work in texas. they want to carry on just like everyday americans. a lot of students that's on that main college campus at u.k. decided to stay home because they didn't know what could do. especially after he introduced trip wire. it wasn't a matter having packages. they didn't know if it was going to be something on a highway that he set out through a city that they would have tripped. ainsley: lawrence, tell us what you know about there is a reporter, you are from dallas, originally, there was a reporter that went to what we think is this guy's house, we don't know where it is and even if we didn't

we wouldn't disclose it because police aren't sure what's going to happen if a bomb is going to go off. >> ainsley, there is something definitely to do with that house, the state police are surrounding that house and cordoning it off. they have told rebecca lopez that there could be some type of explosive there they will don't know. they will can't confirm that out of precaution a lot of these bombers as we know historically try to have trip wires and stuff outside of their homes. brian: like the aurora bomber killer. >> damage police officers when they're trying to do investigations. in texas we have a the love equipment where we have robots that they can go in. they are asking reporters to stay away from that building. that house. brian: lawrence, you will be on outnumbered today. right in the middle. covering this story and maybe a few others. >> yes, sir. brian: all right. we will see you at 12:00. ainsley: thanks, lawrence. brian: jillian will have reaction in just a moment. don't go anywhere.

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>> we were watching tv, we heard sirens, all kinds of sirens, it sounded as if going one certain area. it looked pretty bad. like it looked like something like a shootout had happened i told my brother like my first thought this is the bomber. this is a bomber. >> i feel a little shaky, to be honest. it might be the end of something but might be the of something bigger. we don't know yet. ainsley: yeah, we don't know yet. back with a fox news alert. the austin bombing suspect is dead. brian: while you might have been nodding off, 24-year-old man blew himself up. we know he is a white suspect. as the swat team closed in on him as they tracked him leaving the hotel. you heard from two eyewitnesses we just got together with. ainsley: president trump

acting online praising the authorities. brian: jillian mele here with the other social media reaction. being able to cover this by seeing what the local newspapers and reporters are doing, what else everyone else saying? jillian: the whole country is watching and tweeting. that's how information gets out nowadays is the news and on social media. and as you can imagine lots of reaction coming in from local lawmakers and police after the hunt for the bomber ended early this morning. president trump tweeting, quote: austin bombing suspect is dead. great job by law enforcement and all concerned. texas governor greg abbott also tweeting, quote: big news, the austin bomber is dead. more work needs to be done to ensure no more bombs had been sent before he died. the investigation continues to learn more information. congratulations to the combined law enforcement effort, #austin bombings. >> you can see police i can't thank the men and women of austin pd or our

federal partners enough for their tireless work in restoring peace to our community. round rock police say people need to stay vigilant saying the bombing suspect is deceased we still want our residence to be vigilant regarding suspicious packages. if you see something suspicious call 911. do not disturb or handle suspicious packages. i think that's kind of the bottom line right now as you guys have been talking about all morning. we still don't know if there are more packages out there. brian: we picked up on social media that they are zeroing in on a house. i wonder how much longer we will be having cameras on that house. >> absolutely. i will be monitoring that for you guys. ainsley: greg abbott joins us live in the next hour. brian: we will be in texas. we are in new york. we will all over this story. don't move ♪ ♪ .

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brian: fox news alert. the austin bomber is dead. that is where we began fox and friends about what hours ago. 19 days when the terror began. for the moment it is over. ainsley: he has been found and he is dead. police tracking the suspect to the city of round rock, which is right outside of austin. the bomber blowing himself up inside of his car as the s.w.a.t. team was closing in. brian: we know he is 24. we know he is white. right now the fbi is concerned there could be more bombs out there considering how inconspicuous his other bombs were. ainsley: people in austin waking up with a sigh of relief. also a little worried because they don't know if there are more bombs out there. steve doocy outside of the police headquarters in austin. steve, you got on a plane yesterday. there was another incident last night. this morning we are waking up, the bomber is dead. steve: the bomber is, the

suspected bomber is dead, ainsley. that incident last night happened at a goodwill location, somebody picked up something out of a donation bin. turned out it was artillery device. the attorney general of texas initially said it was connected but now they said 30 minutes ago it is not connected. there had been an explosion in fedex location in schertz, texas, 40 miles from where i'm sitting now. that is probably what was that broke the case because what they were able to do, in addition to the device that exploded there there was another device found at a fedex location out at the airport in austin. they were able to figure out when the particular package was dropped off. it was dropped out at a fedex

location in broadly road, not far from they are. they looked at surveillance video. they bottom an idea what the guy looked like. they were able to use surveillance and geolocator and started tracking him. they tracked him last night looks like a red roof inn on interstate 35, not too far where i'm sitting right now. they watched him for a while. they were waiting for a tactical team to show up so everybody would be safe. suddenly the suspect got in his car for a reason we do not know. he started to move. they followed. eventually he pulled off a frontage road. that is when he engage ad austin police officer for at least a shot or two. the guy got back into his car, detonated a device. there is a ex-military witness who described to one of the local affiliates here it sounded

like what grenades went off. all that action you're looking at is in the parking lot of a red roof inn. so that is where we presume the suspected was before he got into his car and blew himself up. brian: there are so many locations to be interested in. we want to find out what he was doing in the hotel. we want to find out where he lived. since he blew himself up in the car and what is left in the car, where were the materials that he bought and what was the motive that created terror over the last 19 days. ainsley: we have so many questions. todd piro is in round rock, texas, where the suspect did blow himself up right behind you, todd. reporter: as they try to answer the questions, guys, as the sun comes up, those individuals, atf, fire department, fbi and of course the great work of the austin pd, they're still there trying to answer those

questions. right there, you're looking at the area where the suspect blew himself up earlier this morning. that investigation expected to go on for a very long time. traffic on i-35 south is being rerouted. there are no cars going that general vicinity. steve explained the nuts and bolts exactly what happened. we spoke to the mayor who said earlier it really watts community that came together and helped to solve this case. take a listen. >> our community has rallied. the only job we had was to be a little bit more vigilant, to notice things that were suspicious or out of place. and we were all doing that as a community and i think as the facts come out the community is going to see that actually helped resolve this. reporter: but as the austin police chief said this case is far from closed. >> this investigation is still underway so we can not say this

was a, an individual acting on their own. that is why this investigation will continue through the day or days coming. reporter: so again the number one takeaway from that press conference for the public, we're not done here. you still need to be vigilant in your communities. you did great work so far but you need to keep it up because there could be packages out there that authorities don't yet know about that could cause severe damage. ainsley: thank you, todd. we're learning new information out of the fox 7 affiliate there in austin. they're saying that the suspect, the white male, is from pflugerville and they're not ruling out that others might actually be involved. brian: wow. so, you really can not rest easy if you're in austin. might there be packages spread around before he detonated the package that killed him reportedly but they can't rule out accomplishments, accomplices

rather. geraldo rivera is with steve, sitting by his side. geraldo, guys, i imagine you got new information? steve: it new. the eyewitness account apparently the guy detonated the device, sounded like two grenades. now we know that the guy is from pflugerville, not too far from where we are right now, geraldo it, will be interesting looking at his digital footprint. i know authorities before they were able to locate him with surveillance and geolocation from cell fenn information they got a search warrant to look at his google search history. i wonder if he is like the shooter at mandalay bay, before he made his last stand on the high floor in las vegas, he pretty much erased everything, all his digital footprint wept away, what we know of? >> in this case i'm not sure,

and i do not believe the bomber here in austin knew was his last day unlike the situation in las vegas. so i think there should be a treasure trove of forensic evidence that will lead people, lead investigators to conclude, i believe, that he acted primarily alone. i'm not suggesting that nobody knew anything about any aspect of his diabolical plots but my sense is that this is one of the freaks that want to go out and inflict as much pain and suffering as he possibly can. as we look at the scene, notice a lot of guys are standing around. chief manly, said hour 1/2 ago, steve, he is waiting for daylight. it is 7:00 central time. it is still quite dark. we're in the western part of the central time zone. steve: and it is cold. >> it is chilly. as dawn breaks they don't want to miss a thing. they're concerned that there might be something, something

dangerous that was left behind. steve: sure. to your point, geraldo, what they have done, geraldo and i are sitting actually underneath interstate 35. interstate 35 southbound has been closed to preserve essentially the crime scene and other location, the red roof inn, which is the scene of all the police activity right now, it is presumed, although the police have not come out and said he was holed up in room 235 in the red roof inn, that is where we believe he was last. to brian's early point, it could be filled with bombs. it certainly will be a treasure trove of clues. >> i would suggest his headquarters will be his home. that he was on the move. he had escalated his attacks. he went from placing packages in front of people's homes to the tripwire, to the fedex. you know, i was at the fedex here in austin outside, just outside of austin where they

found the package that did not explode which also left behind valuable evidence of how he constructed these devices. growing back to your point about the digital footprint, did he learn how to do this on the the on internet? is that what they will find? this seems a bit more sophisticated -- steve: a guy with guns. >> seems if he learned how to make bombs someplace in addition to what he picked up on google. steve: we'll find out more about that as his identity is revealed. we know the suspect, 24 years old, white man, presumably from pflugerville, texas. what will be interesting, geraldo, to your earlier point, he did not think this would be his last stand where at 2:00 this morning when he realized the police were behind him and he detonated the device. it sounded like a couple of

grenades, it sounds as if he was brazen in appearing on camera at the fedex store on saturday morning at 6:30. knows there is surveillance cameras everywhere but he obviously thought he was smarter than the cops and smarter than technology. >> guess what? he wasn't. he had a lame wig on. maybe if you can bring up the footage. he had that lame wig on. steve: blonde. >> but carrying this big package. alarm bells went off all over the place. they used that. they used this escalation, they used the fedex chapter in this saga to identify the person of interest and then the person of interest becomes the suspect who leads to the confrontation that happened over the morning hours this morning putting an end to the terror. one point i want to make, steve, about austin, texas, particularly, because i believe

that there is in the location, in the nexus of these crimes there is some explanation what he was doing. austin is not only the capital of texas, it is also the home of the main campus of the university of texas. it is a dot of deep blue in a sea of red, a very liberal town. they want to keep austin weird. that is one of their logans. south by southwest, the big mixed media event has just tapering out, just ending right now, so there was a lot of attention to this liberal island in the conservative sea. that might have had something to do with his choice of targets and you know, the timing of these. steve: this final hour of "fox & friends" very shortly we've have the governor of the great state of texas, greg abbott, join us. we have a feeling he might be

able to break news of what, a little more about this particular suspect. all right in the meantime, brian and ainsley. back to you. brian: thanks, guys. good speculation there. we are trying to put two and two together. if the local report is right and the suspect is from pflugerville, it is 27 minutes, by drive and 18 miles from austin, texas. between there is round rock. he stayed in this area. ainsley: austin, north of that is pflugerville, in between where police found him and he blew himself up. brian: we're covering the biggest story in the country right now, the bomber, the austin bomber is dead. we need to find out more information and we will when we come back. ♪

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officer at stratfor, a global security analyst firm. he joins us now. fred, we're still waiting for an i.d. of the guy. apparently he is a from pflugerville, which is 20 miles from here as we sit across from the police station here in downtown austin but police figured out that he was up, apparently at the red roof inn five miles north of us right now. what do you make of that location. if live 20 miles away why would you have a motel room? >> he probably used the motel room a staging point where he placed his bombs or launched his operations but if you think about it from a geography perspective for your viewers, this guy was up and down the i-35 which is a major corridor that comes up from mexico. steve: easy on. easy off. >> easy on, easy off. he knows the city, steve. he was from southwest austin to east austin to north austin where eventually was killed.

steve: what's interesting though, fred, if the if the motel room was essentially a depot, he may have built the bombs in his house in pflugerville. this is speculation. but maybe had them there. maybe at 9:00 when the police had him surrounded, just waiting for the s.w.a.t. team to show up, tactical team, maybe he was going to make another bomb run then? >> i think so. i think that is why law enforcement moved in. they couldn't let him leave that scene with any kind of bomb. the real silo we were talking off the air, one of the surveillance units is watching him, that is skilled art, follow someone like that without tipping your hand so to speak because things can go quickly south in one of these kinds of operations. steve: sure. we have heard apparently the local authorities in early stages didn't have any solid

clues, reaching out to him to start a dialogue, they were checking hardware stores, who did you sell those nails to? they have been selling a lot of nails. apparently there were other common components which were very specific, that is probably how the news started to tighten. >> no doubt, bomb-makers have very unique signatures. i was involved in the capture of ramzi yousef, the first world trade center bombing. he used little casio devices as timers. we'll find with this bomb-maker, he had a very unique signature as well. i bet you he has some signature devices in his hotel room as well as at his house. steve: at this point we don't know whether or not he acted alone. we also don't know whether or not he was able to plant other devices in, he planted some stuff into the fedex mail stream. we don't know if he planted something in the postal service

which is a little slower as completely different stream as well. we just don't know. >> well, it is reasonable to assume that we perhaps have one or two more. bombers, make, several different devices. he probably sequenced these up, made these devices before he started his bombing campaign. steve: right. it was a bombing campaign. was he a terrorist? >> i think so. i think this is domestic terrorism. i think it was a wonderful job on the part of the austin police department, the texas department of public safety, the fbi and atf, just a wonderful job to get this case resolved. steve: indeed. we have the governor of the great state of texas coming up very shortly. thanks for joining us all morning long from austin, texas. >> thanks for having me, steve. steve: still ahead on this wednesday, reaction from former cia analyst buck sexton on the austin bomber's death. our continuing coverage

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ainsley: we are getting a tweet from the austin mayor saying much thanks from a grateful community to chief manly, the chief of police and stellar austin police, austin fire don't and atcems? does anyone know what that is? part of a great team with hundreds of officers from surrounding state and federal agencies working around around the clock to stop the bomber. stay vigilant. could be more threats. brian: 500 federal agents, federal officers coming together for one cause, quickly find thefy perpetrating bomb attacks

that same to be random. former cia intelligence officer and buck sexton is it here. buck, since the good news from the chief, there could be more bombs, we thought but they're not saying for sure there aren't anymore accomplices or any accomplices. >> there is good news the main bomber was caught has to be tempered by reality of ongoing investigation that there could still be active threats out there. there could be bombs in transit right now. there could be bombs already in place. this is not your usual, brian, this is not the usual, well, everyone needs to keep their head on swivel, keep your ice looking around. if they have a accomplices that could be problem if that is in fact the case. ainsley: in your experience do most of these guys act alone?

seems like something you can't even wrap your head around because the idea of putting a bomb on someone's doorstep or sending it through the mail, ruins lives or sending -- so sick, imagine there is one person and there are accomplices is something i can't wrap my head around? >> taking a terrorist analysis, there is a cell, active operation. people that were, assuming there is a cell, people working with him, trying to help him create bombs, trying to help him place bombs. there is something we refer to as a cluster, individuals more loosely associated but maybe didn't take an active step in this process. so your point whether this individual acted entirely on his own or not that is what law enforcement is looking at. they're running his phone calls, email, all the connectivity. brian: going through the hotel room, going what is left of the car. going to pflugerville, where he evidently lives according to

local reporter which is 27 minute drive to austin. the package ended up at 73 miles away at fedex, can you put a circle around where the target is? >> we like to think there is no possibility that any of these packages may have been sent out of the state or sent elsewhere within the state but quite frankly we can't know that at this point in time. this has been going on for weeks. he may have in his final days decided, we know he had evolution of tactics. he may have added other tactics into this, when it comes to the way he was going about these bombings. there could be right now bombs in transit. not trying to scare people but there has to be vigilance about that possibility. ainsley: what surprises you the most what was learned today? >> quite honestly much of this fit the pattern that we expect. there is not a whole lot we've seen is a shock, to veteran investigators of serial bombings in the past. this seems what they would have thought would be the case. one part of this i think we

really have no sense of yet, is the target set. why did he pick targets that he picked? we don't know the names on fedex package. remember the individuals had bombs taken at their houses were very clearly singled out. we don't know why. that is the biggest question, if not operational in nature finding accomplices. brian: what geraldo pointed out he didn't think this was his last day where the las vegas shooter knew he wasn't getting out of there, he might have covered his tracks. this guy did not have time to cover his tracks so they will be exposed. >> they will have good sense hot is most notably the commuter activity. once we get law enforcement giving us information about the specifics of the devices, the construction of them, also why were they going to these individuals? why did he pick that neighborhood with the tripwire? what was the address, what were the addresses that were on the packages of fedex? those are huge pieces of the puzzle we don't have yet and

have soon. i think it will blow up our sense of what really happened here and who this individual was. ainsley: thank goodness he have went to a fedex store or dropbox. we were led to him or police were led to him because of that sloppiness on his part. >> that was a critical misstep. brian: thanks, buck. appreciate it. meanwhile, 31 minutes before the top of the hour. texas governor greg abbott joins steve doocy. he has got to be relieved but he also knows we're not out of the woods yet. days, your joint comfort can be your kid's discomfort. osteo bi-flex. made to move.

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austin. the bomber blowing himself up inside of his car as a police officer approached him. right now we're outside the police headquarters here in downtown austin with the governor of the great state of texas, greg abbott. governor abbott. good morning. >> good morning. good day here in austin, texas. steve: no kidding. there was a police briefing about 2 1/2 hours ago. one of the fbi guys concluded saying this was a great day for law enforcement. >> it is. this is the quintessential of law enforcement at all levels working together. as you know we had hundreds of federal law enforcement agents who were a tremendous help. the austin police department behind us as well as the chief have done a remarkable job. of course the texas department of public safety has been assisting in multiple ways this is from federal, state to local, a quintessential example of a team effort to get to the bottom

of this as quickly as possible, to save as many lives as possible. we're so grateful they were able to bring to conclusion to at least with regard to the one known bomber. steve: right. it is unknown, governor, at this point whether there are other bombs out there? >> two important things before we can put this to rest. one, we don't know if there any other bombs out there and if so, how many or where they may be. this individual by mail or placement, whatever the case may be may have put other bombs out there. so everyone needs to be remaining vigilant to make sure they don't pick up a package that could blow up. second, very importantly, we need to go throughout the day make sure we rule out whether anybody else involved in this process. steve: right. obviously he terrorized texas. is he a terrorist? >> well, the definition of a terrorist is if more the mind set of the person who committed

the crime. was his goal to terrorize or do he have some other type of agenda? obviously there was terror. what we need to find out, i think we will find out, did he have a different agenda he was trying to achieve other than terror? that we don't know yet. but clearly there was terrorism that was felt. steve: sure. the randomness of the targets makes it more complicated. >> right. steve: i know you know a lot of stuff you can't really tell us but what we do know the suspect, the dead suspect, 24 years old, a white male, from pflugerville, texas which is about 20 miles from here. >> pflugerville is a suburb of austin on the north side. steve: the question is why, if he lived 20 miles away would have a hotel room presumably at the red roof inn? >> good question. we don't know if that was a location where he was making some of these bombs. as you all know, as we peekspeak right now, the law enforcement

is at his house in pflugerville, we're learning whether or not that was the location where he was making his bombs. we will know more as we sift through his media accounts and piece together all of the tiny pieces of puzzle to find out where, when, how and why he was doing all of this. steve: in pflugerville, do we know whether or not he lived alone? >> my information right now he had two roommates. steve: okay. >> those two roommates have been talking to law enforcement. we're gathering information from them. would i venture to say those two roommates are not at this time suspects. but that will depend upon the information that we learn. we are incapable of this point in time to rule out anybody else working in collaboration with him. steve: okay. so if he had a couple of roommates and they are not suspects, there is a possibility he did not build the bombs in pflugerville, he built them over at the motel or someplace else? >> that would be the possibility

but again we can't say with specificity whether there was one or multiple locations where he was building the bombs. steve: regarding the suspect, do we know whether or not he had a job? >> as far as we know right now he did not have a job. at least in our early information he did not have a criminal history. steve: okay. >> we are unfamiliar -- we have no indication he was ever a member of the military or anything like that. we're still trying to piece together why is it that someone like this would go on this effort? we don't know if it was a political manifesto or anger about some people or whether or not he really wanted to stoke terrorism. steve: it is interesting at this point you do not believe he was ex-military because some people suggested with this level of sophistication in the bomb building he obviously had some sort of training. if it wasn't the military, maybe it was the internet? or maybe it was something else? >> again is my information as of this moment in time he was not ex-military. and so we don't know how he

gained the skillset to be able to create these bombs. as you have known and reported there were multiple different types of bombs that he set off. steve: yeah. regarding, we read in the local media that apparently they did get a search warrant. looked at his google search results. something suspicious was in there. was able to track this guy down. he has been on your radar for how long? >> we have known a couple of days who the person likely was. we needed to piece together information over the last 48 hours to make sure precisely we knew who he was. it was through social media, but also through other technologies that you all have reported. steve: yeah. >> with regard to the phone pings. with regard to his showing up to make purchases not just what he did -- it was very helpful when we learned the information about him going to the fedex in a disguise. steve: that was a disguise?

that is not what the guy looks like, that crazy wig? >> we also know about some other purchases that he made elsewhere where his image was seen as well as vehicle that he was using. so, but we were able to piece together various pieces of the puzzle like that, with each piece of the puzzle was not fully confirmatory who he was but gave us the ability to track it. steve: if he had search engine results he may not have been, destroyed his digital footprint as the las vegas shooter did? >> what i'm about to tell you i can not confirm however my level of information he did not destroy his digital footprint. it is my understanding that he went dark, he closed down access to his accounts, made it more difficult more externally to tap into it but there is treasure trove of information in his house and digital information, shed light who he is, why he was

doing it. steve: when you say digital account, google account, social media? >> facebook, google account, my information he have shut those down, made it so for average person to tap into it was difficult. we were trying to use law enforcement techniques to get into it and i'm unable to report right now whether or not that was done before the time he killed himself or not. steve: what you know about things he posted in the past on social media, did he seem to have an axe to grind with anybody? >> the things he posted in the past before these crimes arose there were no red flags saying, clearly saying, this is a guy who will be setting off bombs. steve: all right. i think the people of austin, texas, and around here are breathe tag collective sigh of relief that this is the guy but you still don't know if there are accomplices and you still don't know whether or not there are other devices? >> we know that the mastermind

behind these bombings is deceased. steve: that's the guy. >> what we need to do that will take another 24 hours or so is find out whether or not there is anybody else out there working with him, still pose as danger. of course we need to gather information over the next 24 or 48 hours whether or not there are any other bombs out there that pose a danger to anyone. we cause everyone in the austin area to be vigilant, to be concerned about any type of package that you may see. we have scanning devices we provided to the austin police department to make sure any package people are concerned about will be able to be scanned so we can rule out whether or not it's a or is not a bomb. steve: you sent out earlier this morning sent out a tweet about the good law enforcement effort. the president of the united states sent out a tweet as well. there is unprecedented cooperation with the state of texas, the city of austin and

federal government with chief manley. >> they are leading the effort with the austin police department, but we know this could be not done by one agency alone. we are appreciative of all resources provided by washington, d.c., tremendous expertise they have with relation to bombing issues like this. the texas department of public safety, added more than 110 law enforcement as far as and bomb-sniffing dogs and detection emergencies. this leads to a better, faster result. steve: does indeed. governor greg abbott. thank you very much. >> sure, thank you. steve: if you're just waking up, we just heard from the governor, the austin bomber is dead. more coverage live from washington, new york, and austin, texas, after this. ♪ ♪

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ainsley: we are back with a fox news alert. the austin bombing suspect is dead. brian: we found out just as we started the show, while you were probably sleeping or just getting up. we found out the guy is 24 years old. he is a white guy. he blew himself up as the s.w.a.t. team closed in on him from the side of a highway they were tracking him at a hotel. he was unemployed with two roommates. it is unclear if there are other bombs out there. ainsley: he had no military experience we're being told and the president reacting online, praising authorities for their great work. brian: yep, that is not the only thing going online. jillian mele is tracking. jillian: on line something officials try to pour through upcoming days. a lot of people are reacting online, that is what is happening nowadays. reaction coming in from local lawmakers and police after the hunt for the bomber ended early this morning. president trump tweeting quote,

austin bombing suspect is dead. great job by law enforcement and all concerned. austin police chief praising his team, saying i can't thank the men and women of hashtag austin pd and partners for their tireless work restoring peace to our community. austin may tweeting, thanks to our great police and chief manley and austin fire department, atcems. part of a great team with hundreds of officers from the surrounding state and federal age is for working around the clock to stop the bomber. round rock police say, this is something important, that people need to stay vigilant, tweeting quote, the alleged bombing suspect is deceased but we want our residents vigilant with regard to suspicious packages of the. if you see something suspicious call 911. do not disturb or handle any

suspicious packages that is the point to drive home, as we've been talking about all along. ainsley: as time progresses fear will dissipate a little bit. people will still receive packages be in fear but as the days progress. jillian: as we get more answers. brian: by the way the governor says his social media is entirely intact. he did not know this would be his last day on earth, number one. number two, if he has two roommates living that close to him. we understand he is in a suburb. neighbors could look over and say this is what i saw. there might be, this might be as close as we can get to unwrapping the mystery of what the motive plight be. ainsley: absolutely. a lot to pour through on line. thanks, jillian. brian: coming up straight ahead, if you're just getting up the austin bomber has been killed, after he killed two people on his own, we have gotten details as they unfolded. ainsley: but first we'll check in with sandra to find out what is coming up at the top of the hour. sandra. >> ainsley, great coverage this

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ainsley: the austin bombing suspect is dead. governor abbott was just sitting down next to steve doocy. steve is live in austin. he gave us great information. just to recap he said on social

media there were no red flags. this guy lived in pflugerville, which is a suburb of austin. didn't have a criminal history. didn't have a job. was not ex-military and had two roommates talking to law enforcement officials now and they're not suspects. brian: steve we saw footage right outside of pflugerville, how you say it, which is a suburb of austin we found out. it looks like one plead yaw member got too close, he is being arrested -- media. they are trying to cordon off a very fluid scene. the fact he had two roommates living in a condensed area makes me think we'll get a lot of answers. steve: absolutely. the big question is how much did the roommates know? according to the governor said they were being very cooperative. but at the same time, this guy has been out of work for a while and they have looked at his limited social media and google and other search engine results and from what they have seen, he

never had an axe to grind. ainsley your earlier observation, that he was not ex-military, that brings up the if he was not in military, where did he learn how to build bombs with the sophistication that he did? was it the internet? was it somebody else? regarding those go roommates, if you're in a small house 20 miles outside of austin, texas, with two roommates you probably are not building nail bombs in the living room. there is a real good possibility that he either did that right up the road from where i'm sitting right now along interstate 35 at that red roof inn, or at another location that simply has not been revealed at this point. ainsley: where did he get the money? they found him, his car, they were tracking his car. he is living in a house. steve: right. ainsley: if he has a computer, where did he get the money to build these bombs if he is not employed? maybe he lost his job, we just

don't know, we don't know any information on that. now governor abbott said there was treasure trove of information found inside of the suspect's house. what they found, we will hopefully learn as the days progress. brian: remember, they found receipts and able to get access to google search. we'll find out what he is doing last few hours. the other thing about killing him suddenly, he was not expecting to die this way looks like where the las vegas shooter clearly knew this would be his last day on earth. this guy got stopped, he got caught, blew himself so it seems although it could have detonated accidentally. a lot of stuff will be hanging out there. in the big picture, the coordination to put this together, that is what i walk away with. the fbi, atf, local sheriffs all seem to be on the same page which enabled this to happen. don't you get that sense, steve? steve: absolutely buy and ainsley. governor abbott was very clear. he aid this particular suspect

had been on their radar for 24 or 36 hours. it does sound as if surveillance video from fedex, they were able to triangulate using the surveillance and cell phones and then they were able to figure out other purchases that he had made, and they were able to draw pretty good profile that this was the man they were looking for. that is why they approached that hotel at 9:00 last night. they kept an eye on it. then for some reason, it could have been he would go out under the cover of darkness and deliver more bombs, he got in his car, he drove off, and that's when he pulled over on the frontage road. he was confronted by an austin police officer. shots were fired and the guy blew himself up. ainsley: suspected austin bomber is dead. we have more "fox & friendses we have more "fox & friendses ♪

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>> great job from austin. we'll continue to follow this

coverage tomorrow. maybe you'll be back in new york and ainsley you'll be doing the after the show-show. >> it's breaking news. >> bill: thank you. our breaking news coverage continues live in austin, texas where the suspect behind a string of deadly bombings is himself dead. police say he was killed when he detonated a device once confronted by officers and the fbi warning there could still be package bombs that have not been recovered and we're getting more information from his roommates. welcome to our breaking news. i'm bill hemmer inside live "america's newsroom." >> sandra: i'm sandra smith. here's what we know. the suspect killed 20 miles north of austin. police are not releasing his name but said he's a