smoke enveloped him and he got turned around and collapsed. his fellow firefighters are calling him a hero of the highest order. he leaves behind a wife and four children. good night from washington. i am shannon bream. >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." the commerce department today announced changes to the census.omoo ordinarily that would not be a very big deal. starting in two years, respondents will be asked if they are u.s. citizens. that question has been asked on census forms in years past and there are obvious reasons for asking it. the main point of the census, this is why the constitution requires it, is to apportion congressional districts so americans with can vote for their representatives. only u.s. citizens are allowed to vote in federal elections, so it might be nice to know how many live in this country. sound reasonable to you? even boring? are you still awake? if not, then you are not a professional outrage merchant. the left came close to losing consciousness today over this idea.

the attorney general of california, xavier becerra, c says he will sue the trump administration over this change. becerra claims that asking people whether or not they are citizens is somehow unconstitutional. c watch. >> given the way that this administration has attacked immigrants, you can understand why immigrant families would be afraid to fill out the census questionnaire. in our lawsuit, we argue that this decision by the trump administration violates the constitution and federal law. >> tucker: well, ari burman of "mother jones" magazine is even madder than xavier becerra. burman apparently misplaced his xanax this moring. he got so worked up about the census question, he described the change as "a huge crisis for democracy." oh, come on. nobody actually believes that. nobody believes lines like that even the red-faced people who scream them. the left doesn't care about what is or what is not constitutional. did you watch the gun march i this weekend? obviously they don't care. a crisis for democracy?

if you really cared about democracy, representative democracy, you would bee vigilant about preventingg voter fraud. instead the left actively abets it in state after state, including in california where illegals get driver licenses and can register to vote. democracy, please. what progressives really care about is power. they hate the fact you took some of their power by voting for donald trump. and they want it back by anyhe means necessary. that's what this is aboutt obviously. caesar vargas is an attorney and an illegal immigrant. and he joins us tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: tell me why counting your citizens, asking whether they are citizens, how could that be unconstitutional when the constitution requires that you count your citizens? >> we are talking about the constitution, right? and republicans and conservatives are all about the original intent, thehe founding meaning of the constitution. well, the constitution explicitly states that we need an actual enumeration. in other words, an actual count of the whole persons in each state. a never said anything about immigration status. never said anything.te

the purpose is to count everyone in the united states regardless of immigration status. >> tucker: oh. >> so that's perfect.es as a person of -- who approves of original intent, you would understand that, that we would need to count everything and abide by the constitution. >> tucker: hold on. wait. >> i'm just talking about the constitution at this moment. >> tucker: no, no. i know you are lecturing me ontu the constitution.r: but does this change, say, that you are not allowed to count people who are noncitizens? c no. it says take a count. it's one of the many questions. the constitution, by the way, since i know you are so familiar with it, doesn't say anything about counting people by race.mi the census does that. are you opposed to that? should we not ask what people's race is?ot >> under this administration, we have been very clear that it's about targeting immigrants. >> tucker: hold on, slow down. wait, hold on. slow down.mi i'm not going to let you read your bumper sticker. stop, stop, stop. i want you to answer my question because i think it's a fair question. you don't think that the census form ought to be allowed to ask people whether they are here illegally or whether they are citizens or not. okay.ns but you do think it ought to be allowed to ask them what their genetic makeup is? what their race is?

why? >> i think we should have a very simple document that says hey, how many people live in your home? how many people have an opportunity to live in the state? i think that's simple. i'm not putting aside the politics about -- >> tucker: hold on. i'm not going to let you dodge it a third time. hold on. what about their race? the census asks whatat your race is. i think it's creepy as hell, to be honest, because your race has nothing to do with any choice that you made. something you are born with. but the census asks it and it asks it because the left demands it asks it. do you think the census ought to be allowed to ask people's race? >> i think we should have i a simple count. maybe no we shouldn't have. how many people live in your house? that's it. what's what the constitution requires. it's all about allocation and representation.ha >> tucker: what about male or female? should it ask that? is that unconstitutional too. >> i think if a person wants to designate hey, i'm a male. i'm a female. let them answer that question.

>> tucker: hold on. that wasn't the question. the census asks, are you a man or a woman? are you non-hispanic white? are you african-american? are you american indian? now it's going to ask are you a citizen. only one of those questions bothers you, not because of the constitutionality of it but because you think it might dilute the political power of illegal aliens. let's stop pretending this is about the constitution because it's not. >> i am agreeing with you that it should be counting people based on people, not about representation. >> tucker: okay, so you're going to go back to your association of illegal alien lawyers and say, you know what, let's take the race questions off. >> the constitution says hey, we just need to count people. if you are a male or if you are a female, great. but when you talk about representation about -- >> tucker: what do you mean great? slow down. why is it a difference? it's a different story because you think it might dilute the political power of illegal aliens who, i could add, i'm not a lawyer like you, shouldn't be here in the first place. n but you are not bothered by sex or race. so let's just stop pretending.

let's drop the facade. let's stop playing the stupid game where we pretend it's about your concerns about the constitution of a country that you are not even a allowed to be in because ihe think you are here illegally too. let's just say it's about pure political power. it's about one side tryingga to take back power from the other. and, like, let's be adults about it. can we do that or do you want to keep it the pretense going? >> that shows that's a concern of your viewers. that's a concern of you. k that you are afraid that if you count undocumented immigrants, that's going to dilute your power. it's not about power.. it's about simple representation. the fundamental principle of this nation -- >> tucker: well, yes. >> it's about equal representation. >> tucker: no. that's -- you come on this show all these times. "i'm a lawyer. i'm a lawyer."." >> we all have a voice. you know the constitution is not just about citizenship. >> tucker: okay. citizenship is the basis upon which we determine political power. citizens have political power. noncitizens don't. that's the difference. if you want to distill citizenship to a sentence, there have you it. --you have it.

so, yes, i do want to dilute the political power of the citizens of other countries. i don't think that russian citizens or nigerian citizens or citizens from the saychelless ought to be able to vote in my elections. that's constitutional. that's the definition of constitutional. >> that's not what america stands for. what america stands for is that you can be 100% american but you can be 100% mexican, african. >> tucker: no, actually, citizens. are you really a lawyer? and by the way -- >> allowed to have american citizenship and mexican citizenship and french citizenship. that's the crazy thing about how beautiful this country is about. >> tucker: but you are not allowed to not have citizenship and vote which is leads a question i have been meaning to ask you for some time, as we have been abetting your illegal stay in this country. do you plan to vote in the next election? i think you live in california. they will let you vote. it's illegal. do you plan to do it anyway based on the theory that you just elucidated for the rest of us? >> well, we are talking about counting.al i do think that every person should be counted. >> tucker: are you going to vote? it's a simple question. >> now your question aboutco universal -- i do believe that we should have universal voting for everyone to ensure that everyone has democracy. >> tucker: for citizens of

other countries? so like, so putin should be able to vote here. >> no taxation without representation. >> tucker: oh, okay. so everybody in the world who comes to the united states and buys a deck of marlboros and pays the sales tax b is entitled to vote. that's what you're saying. >> if that person comes here to contribute to the country, let him have a sayay in his government. simple as that. >> tucker: oh. okay, let foreigners vote. i hope the democratic party runs on this. i think that would be a fun election. caesar, thank you for being honest. b i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> tucker: kris kobach is the secretary of state of the state of kansas. he has been following these issues closely because he careso mr. secretary, thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me, tucker.ths >> tucker: you know, explain to us why it's important to know whether or not people counted by the census are american citizens? >> there are a million reasons why. the first and foremost is that any sovereign nation needs to know how many citizens it has. the second is that all kinds of statistics require us, like unemployment statistics, knowing how many of the people in the united states are citizens and how many are

noncitizens, meaning aliens, o both legal and illegal. we have to know that. and then apportionment. if congress decides, as it should, to stop countinge illegal aliens, we need to know exactly how many are in each category. i mean, it's absurd that states like california have an inflated number of representatives inin congress because they have so many illegal aliens. so, there are so many reasons. let me quickly respond to your previous guest. i couldn't stop laughing. his notion that it's unconstitutional to count citizens, ask people if they are citizens or not, look, we started doing this in the 1820 census. the founding fathers were still alive in 1820. if it was unconstitutional to ask, are you a citizen, they would have said hey, don't ask the citizenship question. that's unconstitutional. the second thing is, the supreme court ruled in 1964 in westbury vs. sanders that diluting the votes of u.s. citizens, which is what happens when you count the illegal aliens in a district, that is unconstitutional. so... >> tucker: i wonder if

conservatives make a mistake in having constitutional arguments with people who think the constitution is fundamentally illegitimate because it was written by c slave owners in the first place. this has nothing to do with the constitution.y i doubt xavier becerra knows what's in the constitution. he doesn't care. this is all sophism. it's demagoguery designed to take power from people they don't think should have it. voters. don't you think? >> yeah. i think so. and you hit the nail on the head when you said look, it's all about power. that's why the left is apoplectic about the notion that we would be counting citizens again like we have done through most of our country's history. because they see that thisec potentially could threaten the inflated number of congressional seats. again, the trump administrationi can't do it unilaterally.. it would take an act of congress next to say okay, apportionment should not count illegal aliens. but we should have done that decades ago, by the way. >> tucker: that's for sure. that and a lot of other things! mr. kobach, thanks for joining me. t great to see you. >> my pleasure. likewise. >> tucker: this is a fox news alert. the orange county board in orange county, california,

has voted to join the trump administration's lawsuit against california and its sanctuary state law. sandra hutchins is sheriff of orange county and has fought that law by publicly posting the release times of illegal immigrant inmates. california a.g. xavier becerra told fox news producer dan gallo he may havent sheriff hutchins arrested for that, watch. >> state law is state law. and it's my job to enforce state law. i will do so. and we want to make sure that every jurisdiction, including orange county, understand what state law requires of the people and the subdivisions of the state of california. >> does that mean the lawsuit against the sheriff's department or arrest of the sheriff? >> i think i just answered that. okay, thanks very much. >> tucker: sheriff hutchins joins us tonight. sheriff, a lot of people on the east coast are just waking up to what's going on in california. but it seems like we are moving towards a crisis here. is that the way it seems to you? >> no. it's not a crisis.

as the sheriff of orange county, i feel responsible for the public safety of the citizens a of our county.y. >> tucker: yes. >> sb-54 does not allow for that and so i have started yesterday posting the names and dates of release of all of our inmates publicly accessible to all of the community, and that is well within the law provided by sb-54. >> tucker: right. what i meant by crisis is you are the chief law enforcement officer of the county, one of the biggest counties in the state. the chief law enforcement officer of the state, the attorney general, is threatening to arrest you. i have never heard of anything like that happening in any l state, at least in my lifetime. >> yeah, and i haven't, either. and i find it interesting.en maybe he better read sb-54 again because i don't think h he understands what the law says and what i'm doing is entirely within the confines of the law. and i'm doing what i think

is important for my d constituents. it's a public safety issue to me. it's not about immigration at all. it's about individuals who have committed violent crimes.. let me just give you some examples of some individuals we have had to release. how about sex with a minor. child cruelty. domestic violence. i mean, i don't think i could sleep at night knowing that i i had let somebody go and they go out and commit another crime with those kinds of charges. so, i am doing something well within the law that helps me to notify i.c.e. along with the community on when individuals are being released. it gives i.c.e. an opportunity to pick up those individuals who are in custody for serious crimes. we are not talking aboutck misdemeanor crimes. >> tucker: i understand. >> we are talking about serious, violent crimes. >> tucker: you are acting out of, obviously, a moral imperative that's nonpolitical. it's your job description. how would the attorney general arrest you and what will happen if he tries?ou

>> well, i wouldn't advise it. if he is going to arrest me, then he better have some good charges because i'm going to get an attorney and i will fight it but i would be very surprised if mr. becerra decides to make a move like that and arrest a sitting sheriff for following the law. just because he doesn't like what i'm doing, that is not enough. i'm following the law and i'm trying to take care of my constituents here in orange county. >> tucker: so i wonder why other law enforcement officials in other parts of the state aren't doing what you are doing if what you are doing is consistent with california law?? >> i'm not sure. i think some are doing other things but, you know, i'm not going to speak to that, but i think there are some other jurisdictions who are doing what they can to, legally under the confines of the law as it sits today, doing what they can to protect their communities. d the sheriffs in the state of california fought this senate

bill from the very beginning. it states that we cannot use any resources to communicate with our federal law enforcement partners, which is just ludicrous. >> tucker: well, it's dangerous, as you pointed out.t' sheriff, thanks for joining us. i appreciate it.t. >> absolutely. thank you for having me.e. >> tucker: well, in the wake of the antigun walkouts, a california teacher was suspended from her job for daring to ask a simple question. could anti-abortion protesters do the same thing? she got bounced for that. the teacher joins us next. hey! you know, progressive

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♪ ♪ >> tucker: almost every news outlet has pretty aggressively e supported recent gun control protests for providing one sided forums to protesters to push their view and excluding anyone who disagrees or in fact attacking them for a questioning the decency of children. how could you? monday afternoon, nbc went further than that. one of the reporters outright urged his viewers to go online and sign a pledge to vote for antigun candidates. it happened. here's the tape. >> there is also a push called parents promise to kids that encourages voters to sign a contract vowing to vote for candidates who, as they describe it, put child safety ahead of guns. i'm joined by two of the students who started parents promise to kids. again to those watching you can check out adam and zac's contract at their website parents promise to kids

download it, print it sign it and post it. good luck to you all. wish you well in your effort. >> tucker: how long before they are sending out directions to planned parenthood? probably not long. supposedly marches against guns are about speakingg truth to power, even though they enjoy massive support from virtually everyone in power. lawmakers, schoolon administrators, the media, the business community, basically every billionaire on the planet decided to protest another issue though that's not aligned with the people in power who would like to take your guns away and keep them for themselves. disempower you, as it were, and see what happens if you tried to challenge thehe conventional view of anything.ap julianne benzel tried to do that for a moment. she teaches history at rocklin high school in california.om she was placed on leave by her school after she questioned antigun walkouts and wondered what would happen if the school was faced with an anti-abortion protest. would they be so supportive of that? julianne benzel joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. >> i appreciate the invite.

>> tucker: well, it's an amazing story. i just wonder if i misstated it in any way. you said hypothetically would you support a pro-life walkout and they punished you for that? >> pretty much, tucker. real just contextually, i just wanted to make sure that my students were informed. i had a premonition that they were not. sure enough, most of them had no idea about the protest. so i gave them an overview. i asked them to look at it on their own and most importantly, you justou mentioned parents. i said go talk to your parents. i'm a parent.i' i would want to know if my student decided to get up and walk out of class for any protest. and i received no backlash from my students.s. these are highly intelligent kids. it's a great school, actually. and they understood it. but somehow it got to administration that did i notbu fall in line and follow the herd and they took it upon themselves to put me on administrative leave the wednesday morningut of the protest. >> tucker: did they explain why?

are you -- you are not allowed to question the orthodoxy? did they say that out loud? was there another pretext for this? >> there was a pretext. to answer your question, they did not tell me why. they just called me at 8:30 in the morning. i arrive on campus at 9:00. they said do not come in today. they gave me no reason why.. i didn't find out until about 3:00 that afternoon when a local news reporter knocked on my door and she hadwh the media report from my school district. so she actually informed me as to why. and essentially as it has unraveled, that apparently students and parents complained about me asking this question if there would be a possible double standard. and that was their reasoning or justification for putting med on leave. >> tucker: so, i mean, justt to kind of follow your analogy to its conclusion, if there was a pro-life march nearby in california, so maybe there won't be, but let's say there was, would the school be okay with, like, 80% of kids going to that event?

>> well, that's precisely the question i asked my very insightful students. i just flipped it and said what do you guys think? is this appropriate to protest during school time? usually protests take place before school, after school, on a saturday, on your own time. and i said if this administration or any administration throughout the country is going to basically allow and facilitate this kind of a protest, would they do the same thing for a pro-life protest? and i have a very, very brave student who has actually taken that upon himself to challenge. >> tucker: interesting. h well, schools don't believe in fairness anymore. the left doesn't in general. that's the lesson here. julianne, thank you. you are a brave person to come on this show. >> thank you so much, tucker. absolutely. >> tucker: thanks. cnn is totally obsessed with tha story that doesn't really matter to anybody at home or abroad except to them. they are into it. brit hume's thoughts on that and on rumors in washington

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right now, including a tweet that just came in from stormy daniels, the former porn star. let's bring in our experts and discuss.ta >> tucker: so funny to watch that. you think michael gershon, the presidency has been degraded by this, never even considering maybe he is being degraded by it, maybe. press all over this stormy daniels story. it is the only thing that matters in a country where there are a lot of things going on.ry california is basically seceding from the union. 60,000 people died of opioid o.d. last year. possible war with north korea. maybe a recession on the horizon. nope, stormy daniels is all that matters. brit hume is fox's senior political analyst. is stormy daniels the only story that matters to him? we invited him in to ask. >> tucker. >> tucker: are the press keeping this in context? >> well, i will tell you, if mike gearsen thinks this is an extraordinary cultural moment, okay, i will accept

that, but why does he think it just happened? i mean, what struck me about this stormy daniels story in its current incarnation is that it didn't seem to tell us very much about donald trump that we didn't already know or should have known. >> tucker: exactly. >> this particular charge was raised back before the election. it was denied.ec my sense about it was, as onee who followed trump, was it was probably true and his denial was probably not true. but my feeling about this is that an awful lot of peoplehe around the country thought, you know, trump was a philanderer. after all, he bragged about it publicly back in his nonpolitical days, and it was widely known and, you know, the fact that somebody might have gotten paid to keep it quiet didn't strike me as something that was beneath trump. even so, he is not even accused so far of being the one that made the payment.f so my sense about this was that it was kind of baked in the cake. people knew what kind of a rascal he was when it came to this sort of stuff. a certified philanderer and lover of flashy women and

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♪ >> tucker: the fbi ignored warnings about nikolas cruz in florida. in texas, an agent assisted islamic extremists who attempted to commit a massacre. now turns out the fbi recruitedh the father of nightclub shooter omar mateen as an informant. yet, somehow despite that, they didn't notice that mateen was plotting this massacre, they say. they covered up that failure for nearly two years. glenn greenwald is the co-founder of the intercept. he joins us tonight. you have written a bunch of stories. i wondered why because it seemed like a straightforward story. i thought we knew what we were going to know. you were right. a there was a lot we didn't know. tell us what we didn't know about this massacre. >> the primary narrative that the media circulated pretty much until this minute is totally false. namely that omar mateen went into pulse with the intention to target gay people. lots of people love this narrative. the right loved it because

they like to depict muslims as being incompatible with the left and hating guys. the left loved it because it put lbgts as the victim of a hate crime. the reality is that he had never been to pulse. he had gone to multiple other locations in the days leading up to the attack and on that day that had nothing to do with the gay community, disney, other places he hadit judged were too fortifiedd by security. he chose pulse randomly by entering google and asked what is a orlando downtown nightclub. the evidence is overwhelming that he was motivated not that he was motivated not what he said during the entire attack which it was being done in retaliation for what he perceived as 15 years of u.s. killing of muslims, women and children who were innocent in muslim countries. >> tucker: interesting. now we learn that his father was an fbi informant. this fits a pattern with

these massacres and, you know, i don't think we know enough to really understand what it means but tell us what we do know about this. >> so, the fbi has been caught lying repeatedly throughout this case. the days after the pulse attack, they detained his wife for 17 hours. she had a small small infant. she has a very low iq. they got her to sign a statement that was filled with false claims, including the fact that she had gone to pulse with her husband to case it. they investigated it and they determined the fbi did i that she had never been to pulse. they got her to sign a false statement by threatening to say they would take away her child. by playing on her vulnerabilities. they hid from court many of the key statements, the incriminating ones they got her to sign were false. what they also hid not just from the court but from her lawyers was this critical fact, namely that omar mateen's father who they planned to call as a witness was working as an informant

very closely with the fbi for 11 years from 2005 to 2016. the fbi had twice investigated omar mateen after he was boasting about havingaf connections to terrorism. and they decided they wouldn't investigate him further.wo they weren't going to arrest him.m. they weren't going to do anything.. jim comey said we are goinge to provide explanation about why we made that choice. they have never done so. so when we called them for comment, they refused. as it turns out, they were t talking to their informant during the time they were investigating omar mateen. it's pretty clear that they decided not to arrest him because they were working so closely with his father, a fact as you said that they concealed from everybody until just a couple days ago. >> tucker: that is just unbelievable.. i mean, you or i lie to the fbi, we're charged with a felony. they lie to us, no big deal. you are wearing remembrance on your lapel for rio de janeiro council members shot after

advocating there. that's a really interesting story. we will put out a link to that story. worth our viewers hearing about. thanks for joining us tonight, glenn. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: meanwhile hazleton, pennsylvania has changed a lot. neighborhoods basically lookok like 1955. why is that? we will get to that in just a minute. -if you told me a year ago where i'd be right now... aah! ...i would have said you were crazy. but so began the year of me. i discovered the true meaning of paperless discounts... and the indescribable rush of saving drivers an average of $620. why does fear feel so good? i fell in love three times -- once with a woman, once with a country, and finally... with myself. -so, do you have anything to declare or not? -isn't that what i'm doing?

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♪ ♪ >> tucker: we told you last night about the scandalr: swirling around the interior secretary ryan zinke. according to new reporting by cnn, zinke may once have suggested in private that he still believes in the meritocracy. that would make him in the last person in power in this country who does., so, of course, it was highly

controversial. through a spokesman, he denied that slander. of course he doesn't believesl on hiring on merit on theg basis who is more qualified and who has the most experience or any of those bigoted skill based criteria. at the department of interior they hire on the basis of genetic, what people look like. ryan zinke believes in diversity like everybody else. of course, no one believed him. in op-ed for cnn today andre perry of the brookings institution said zinke's preference for qualified people could, quote: threaten the security of the country.to senator bob menendez of new jersey recently returned from his federal corruption trial, congratulations, bob. went further trying to create a lily white department. obviously no worse crime than that. white departments being prima facie immoral something a mad scientist thought up and of course menendez would know himself being single whitest membersbe serving in the u.s. senate. he gets a pass.rv whatever else you might say

about bob menendez, he would never consider hiring someone on the basis of relevant qualifications. recently we told you on this program about the wave ofre demographic change that has transformed the city of hazleton, pennsylvania. in the year 2000, hazleton was less than 2% hispanic. today thanks to mass immigration, hazleton is majority hispanic. more than half of the residents there speak a language other than english at home. we got those numbers from a recent piece in "national geographic" which quoted lifelong hazleton residents as saying they no lockerer --no longer recognize their own hometown. they didn't hate immigrants. most americans like immigrants. but this was too much change. in fewer than 20 years, thee culture their parents and grandparents had built evaporated. they never asked for any of that. it was just imposed on them. they were bewildered, understandably. but not everyone understands or even caress. this morning, cnn ran a hit piece on that segment. writer ron brownstein described it "as extraordinary

screed against diversity," whatever that means. he suggested we were bigots for talking about the subject at all. this, of course, is how you bully people into being quietec while you permanently change their country, and usually it works. because nobody wants the headache of that. but, in this case, it's an important enough topic thatn we're going to go a little deeper on it. what happened in hazleton is happening around the country. neighborhoods transformed forever with no public debate. what's interesting is where this is not happening. in the neighborhoods where the people who make these decisions live. here's some numbers. in storm lake, iowa, only a tiny percentage of the population was foreign born just 25 years ago.ow now more than half of all residents of storm lake don't speak english at home. hamtramck, michigan, had two bangladeshi residents in 1990.k today that city is majority, muslim. fewer than 40% of the people who live there speak english at home. in his cnn piece, ron brownstein suggests this whole conversation is about white fear. liberals often say that.

almost always they say that, probably to hide the truth of it, which is that the starkest effects of mass immigration don't take place in white neighborhoods. they take place where native born african-americans live. for example, not so long ago, compton, california, the famous compton, was the largest black communityy west of the mississippi. today only a third of compton's population is african-american. the rest is hispanic. that's huge change. that's massive dislocation. nobody talks about it. people like ron brownstein shout them into silence but it's real and for a lot ofof people who used to live there, it's traumatic. now let's consider how the other half lives. the people who are making these decisions about immigration and demographic change. are their neighborhoods changing like hazleton and storm lake and compton? come on. you know the answer to that l.a. county is now overwhelmingly hispanic. but not upper income malibu where the famous liberals live, where everybody supports these changes. malibu is still 80% white. 87% white, actually.

new york city, diverse place, of course. but not in michael bloomberg's neighborhood. his zip code is 82% white. it's less than 5% hispanic. it's still 1985 where michael bloomberg lives. it probably always will be. that's the point. same with barack obama's neighborhood here in washington. that zip code is less than 8% hispanic. meanwhile just across the river in the suburbs in virginia, more spanish speaking every year. obama loves that. he just doesn't want to live near it. diversity for thee but not for me. you see how it works. no matter what ron brownstein tells you. lou barletta was the mayor ofbr hazelton, pennsylvania. he was partially attacked for trying to fight changes to his city. today he represents pennsylvanin in congress. he joins us tonight. congressman, thanks for coming on. >> good to be here, tucker. >> tucker: i just want to restate. i don't think you can say it enough. i think most people like immigrants because most immigrants are great, including the ones in your hometown. it's really a question of

who gets to decide what theg changes are and how big they are. and i always wondered, for a town like hazleton, do the people who live there have any say in it at all? >> no. they didn't have any say in it, tucker. i was at the forefront ofn' that issue in hazleton where we saw a very sudden migration of newcomers coming into the city with no real explanation as to why it was happening and why hazleton. and it is startling for a community to see a change like that. to give you a good example, in the year 2000, english as a second language in the hazleton area school district, the budget was $500. five years later it was $1.5 million. that just gives you a glimpse of how fast it happened. >> tucker: so we're always told that when you bring in huge amounts of poor people from the third world withh low levels of education that you get much richer when you do that. that's the key to prosperity.

no one who makes these decisions does it in their own neighborhood. they say it will make you richer. has hazleton become richer? >> no, quite the opposite. it becomes much more difficult when your income tax goes down. our population grew by 50% but our tax revenue stayed the same. that's when we realized we not only had -- we had an illegal immigration problem on top of it all, but no, when people are coming in and are of lower income or lower end of the economic ladder, that's less tax money that you are getting and it becomes more difficult to provide services. >> tucker: why do all the experts like ron brownstein at cnn say you are a bigot if you have concerns and they -- i mean they're telling you you are richer and happier. why won't you admit it? >> sure. r i had this discussion. i was on a panel with mayor bloomberg at one time when he said, you know, new york city's economy would crash if it didn't have illegal immigrants. who would wash our dishes and bus our tables and clean our hotel rooms?

in small towns like hazleton, it's an entire different story. >> tucker: yeah, it is. i noticed that michaelt bloomberg's census track in new york is 5% hispanic. he is a hypocrite. you are not, though. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: i want to bring you some news that's just broken. china has confirmed that north korean dictator kim jong un did make a visit to china by train apparently to meet chinese president xi jinping. it was kim's first trip abroad we know about since taking over the hermit kingdom in 2011. it comes as preparations continue for a meeting between kim and our own president.t. of course, we will be covering that meeting needless to say, and we'll stay on this story more broadly. free speech is the greatest right we have. increasingly it's embattled by the sources of tolerance. one recent high school graduate learned that lesson the hard way. he had a tape recorder with him, thank heaven. we've got it for you next.

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♪ ♪ >> tucker: free speech is the most important right you as an american have. you were born with it but that doesn't mean you can exercise it. thompkins learned that the hard way recently. he is a recent graduate in providence, rhode island, he decided to help his community by joining a program called city year that helps inner city schools. it's associated with americorps and receives federal funding. recently they had a diversity workshop. white programs members ordered to go to the basement of the building. the next day, he was summoned and he was berated for his opinion. he reported that.

>> dress the same as someone that is born black, should not feel shame for being black, someone who is being born white should not feel shame for being white. i don't think that's -- i don't think that's an upsetting statement to make. i don't think that's being unreasonable. >> okay. thank you. um, i disagree. >> tucker: "i disagree." she didn't explain why she disagrees or why he was wrong. she just fired him. tompkins was dismissed from city year. we contacted johnson whoro claimed that "political beliefs have no bearing onon volunteers." when we shared the recording and told her we had it on tape she refused further comment and we'll leave it to you to decide why. c that's about it for us tonight. tune in every night at 8:00 p.m., eastern time to the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and especially groupthink in whose clutches this country finds itself.

we are doing our best to resist. jennifer palmieri from the clinton campaign has a new book out. she is going to join us tomorrow night. that will be fun. good night from washington. sean hannity is next. >> sean: hey, tucker. great show as always. welcome to "hannity." multiple breaking news stories to bring you tonight. showdown brewing at this hour in the sanctuary state of california some now revolting against thatat state's insane policies that literally shield criminal illegal immigrants. one california county has a new plan to buck the golden state policies and actually help i.c.e. enforce america's immigration laws. the under sheriff from orange county who is fighting back will join us exclusively tonight. plus, we'll show you all out hysteriacoming from the left after the commerce department announced that the 2020 census will actually asky respondents if they are d citizens.